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Wireless internet just stopped working

Motzy5Motzy5 Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I have a HP Pavillion laptop that is 3 years old and just today the wireless internet stopped working for some reason. The switch at the bottom shows a red light at both the "off" and "on" positions, and should show a blue light when it is on. The laptop is running on Vista and i am not sure what happened with it. In the network settings the only form of internet connection that is present is the normal wired one, no wireless. Any ideas??

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Have you tried the basic fixes, like unplugging the modem (from the wall, not from the back of the modem) and leaving it off for 30 seconds or so before plugging it back in?

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Also, is Vista a new thing for this computer, or was it working fine with Vista before?

    (Sorry for the double post)

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Does the wireless device driver show up in the device manager? If so does it say that it's working properly?

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  • Motzy5Motzy5 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Its a problem from the laptop part because i have another laptop running off of the same router, i cant get the wireless enabled. There is only one driver listed under network adapters and its called "NVIDA nForce Networking Controller" and it is enabled, which i already disabled and enabled with no luck. Vista came installed on the laptop and it hasnt been a problem before, just today it started to act up.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    The NVIDIA driver is for your motherboard.

    It sounds to me like you need to reinstall the router. I actually had a similar problem with mine when I switched to Vista, but I can't remember how I fixed it.

    If you call your ISP, they might be able to walk you through it.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm confused. So the other laptop can connect wirelessly to the router, or neither of the laptops can?

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  • Motzy5Motzy5 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    There is nothing wrong with the router at all. There is no wireless internet option at all on the laptop. There isnt anything to search for wireless signals. It seems like the whole wireless option was somehow disabled.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It sounds like your computer stopped recognizing your wireless device entirely. I would contact HP and ask them for help. The same thing happened to an HP of mine with the CD/DVD drive, it disappeared entirely and I had to send it in.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Find out exactly what your NIC is (Assuming it's now showing up in the device manager, look up your laptop's serial number and google that), and then get drivers for that and install them. Bam, problem solved.

    Alternatively, scan for malware.
    Chanus wrote: »
    from the wall, not from the back of the modem
    This changes absolutely nothing
    Chanus wrote: »
    The NVIDIA driver is for your motherboard.

    Huh? I didn't realize the only thing NVIDIA makes is motherboards. In fact I've never heard of an NVIDIA motherboard but I'm not going to blindly assume they don't
    Chanus wrote: »
    It sounds to me like you need to reinstall the router.

    ...Huh?
    Chanus wrote: »
    If you call your ISP, they might be able to walk you through it.

    It's not an ISP problem, the laptop simply isn't recognizing the NIC.


    Nothing personal Chanus but your advice is a little uninformed


    Edit: Also consider your NIC may be dead

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I had this problem on my Grandmother's laptop.

    Her new laptop arrived (from QVC, ugh) and had everything it claimed, but there was no way to get the wireless card to do... well... anything. It was like it wasn't connected. It took about an hour before I tried to find some sort of hardware issues. There was an odd switch, like a smaller version of the clasp that locks the laptop screen closed with the wireless symbol on it. I switched it, and poof. Wireless card turned on and everything was groovy.

    Look around the base of the machine. Apparently, lot of newer laptops have a "Disable Wireless" switch around the base. On my Grandmother's laptop it was next to the headphone ports (which was really stupid). I'm not entirely sure why it was there, and It was the first one I had seen (though I discovered my Mother and Sister both had it on their new machines as well).

    The laptops were two Lenovos and and a HP, respectively. My Dell does not have it, nor does my Lady's Macbook. Not sure what the deal with it is, but it might be your solution.

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  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I agree with mechaThor.

    Unfortunately this is a common problem with HP laptops. I know of at least 2 people who've had the same problem you describe. The wireless just stops working and the LED stays red instead of indicating whether the laptop is wireless enabled or not. On my own HP laptop, I've had the CD/DVD Rom issue that mechaThor reports in his post.

    For all the faults, we tried a number of software upgrades and whatnot, and did all the troubleshooting we could think of (by the way I have a degree in software engineering and can pretty much fix any PC fault) and we couldn't make it work again, short of getting HP to take the laptops back for repair.

    I think the issue is that the wirless module on the laptop motherboard has gone faulty. A google search shows this to be a common problem.

    Advice - Call HP, and ask them what they will do about it. Based on my own internet searches, and experiences with various friends' HP laptops, they will know about this issue.

    FYI - the laptops we sent in for repair came back pretty quickly. I'm in the UK and the pickup procedure was flawless. A courier came to get the laptop each time.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    The NVIDIA driver is for your motherboard.

    Huh? I didn't realize the only thing NVIDIA makes is motherboards. In fact I've never heard of an NVIDIA motherboard but I'm not going to blindly assume they don't

    NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller is a driver set for the on-board networking hardware that comes with the motherboard... and yes, NVIDIA makes motherboards now... or rather, they make components (I think my motherboard is an Asus, but has that Networking Controller driver set).

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    cmsamo wrote: »
    Unfortunately this is a common problem with HP laptops. I know of at least 2 people who've had the same problem you describe. The wireless just stops working and the LED stays red instead of indicating whether the laptop is wireless enabled or not. On my own HP laptop, I've had the CD/DVD Rom issue that mechaThor reports in his post.

    AFAIK HP tends to go to rather obscure 3rd party manufacturers to make some of the devices, of which many of them are rarely updated with new drivers, usually leading to problems like this. YMMV when sending it into HP for repair if you are in the US, though. I've had laptops that have taken up to a month to get returned, with some of the minor problems not resolved. I've heard (this works with other companies too, AFAIK) that telling them that you need to unit for a private business drastically speeds up the response and repair time, though this isn't coming from personal experience, strictly anecdotes from others. Good luck with whatever you end up doing, however.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    mechaThor wrote: »
    cmsamo wrote: »
    Unfortunately this is a common problem with HP laptops. I know of at least 2 people who've had the same problem you describe. The wireless just stops working and the LED stays red instead of indicating whether the laptop is wireless enabled or not. On my own HP laptop, I've had the CD/DVD Rom issue that mechaThor reports in his post.

    AFAIK HP tends to go to rather obscure 3rd party manufacturers to make some of the devices, of which many of them are rarely updated with new drivers, usually leading to problems like this. YMMV when sending it into HP for repair if you are in the US, though. I've had laptops that have taken up to a month to get returned, with some of the minor problems not resolved. I've heard (this works with other companies too, AFAIK) that telling them that you need to unit for a private business drastically speeds up the response and repair time, though this isn't coming from personal experience, strictly anecdotes from others. Good luck with whatever you end up doing, however.

    Saying that you need it for business when you're calling customer support for a notebook marketed to the consumer market will get you an eye roll and 1 of 2 things: An empty promise or the truth.

    It just isn't possible. The software that phone monkeys use to setup any sort of repairs is limited by the model of the computer and any extended warranties that apply to the computer.

    Quite literally it's impossible to have repair expedited unless it has already been like a month and you are fortunate enough to have your case escalated.

    BTW, the best way to get a case escalated is through corporate e-mails rather than requesting one with phone support.

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