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    Manic205Manic205 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    never die wrote: »
    Manic205 wrote: »
    I still think there's something to the fat kid's absence.

    Edit: Or at least I hope there is. I'd hate it if one of our brave scouts was really just a wimp who hid behind a statue and then just waddled back in after the conclusion.

    He got swatted away along with the tall kid in panel two.

    I must be blind. My bad.

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    UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh man, it took me forever to realize the fat kid was hiding behind the stone statue, which bears a slight similarity to the blond kid but isn't him because he is hiding behind the redhead's cape.

    Edit: I didn't even realize the second guest comic was out. I didn't even realize it was Saturday! God, time gets screwy without a job or school...

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    Pixel BluePixel Blue Registered User regular
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Today's makes more sense, art is a little cleaner as well. I wonder if the artist went over it again due to complaints.

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wait, I thought one of the kids was turned to stone?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wait, I thought one of the kids was turned to stone?

    No none of the children were turned to stone, I know its confusing because well thats this artists style.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I did not care for this.

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    CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wow, that was just terrible.

    Terrible.

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well, the last panel looks pretty cool.

    Here's to hoping that G&T take another shot at this idea at some point.

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    bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    wow.


    more awful. I can understand this one, but it still sucks.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Well, the last panel looks pretty cool.

    Here's to hoping that G&T take another shot at this idea at some point.

    On the opening post Mike suggested he'd like to return to it maybe in graphic novel form. I'd like to see both Automata and Lookouts drawn by mike and story by Jerry in the same way.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Not actually a mod. Roaming the streets, waving his gun around.Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited July 2009
    So the Lookouts have to do this for themselves. Which they accomplish by... throwing rocks at the thing?

    And then the Scoutmaster blinds the creature, which is presumably the hard part that the kids should've been discovering on their own, and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    Also, the Basilisk breathes blue fire? Bwuh?

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, uh, what did the kids learn? "Scoutmaster will save our asses"?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    So the Lookouts have to do this for themselves. Which they accomplish by... throwing rocks at the thing?

    And then the Scoutmaster blinds the creature, which is presumably the hard part that the kids should've been discovering on their own, and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    Also, the Basilisk breathes blue fire? Bwuh?

    Well at least you can tell whats going on in this one right Jeffe? So uhh 3 comics in they finally made one that was understandable?

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Yeah, uh, what did the kids learn? "Scoutmaster will save our asses"?

    'you are boys but one more day'

    The after camping sleepover in the guide's tent is not going to end well...

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah I think the writing here is a bigger problem than the art.

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    SelnerSelner Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    And in the last frame you can see the chicken's eye. But the scoutmaster just tied a thing around the eyes. So why can we see the eye in the last frame? I would think the boys would not remove the binding thing.

    It makes for a nicer image, I think, but doesn't make sense with the other panels.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Not actually a mod. Roaming the streets, waving his gun around.Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited July 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    So the Lookouts have to do this for themselves. Which they accomplish by... throwing rocks at the thing?

    And then the Scoutmaster blinds the creature, which is presumably the hard part that the kids should've been discovering on their own, and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    Also, the Basilisk breathes blue fire? Bwuh?

    Well at least you can tell whats going on in this one right Jeffe? So uhh 3 comics in they finally made one that was understandable?

    I could tell what was going on in the second one, too. I just had serious issues with some of the artistic choices.

    You know, at first, I thought what had happened was that a kid had thrown a dagger into the basilisk's eye, blinding it on that side. And I was thinking, "Okay, cool, I can dig it." And then I realized: no, they're just stoning it. I really don't get what the point of this story was supposed to be. It could've been a cute coming-of-age tale, and instead it's a Scoutmaster-saves-their-tails tale. It seems to undermine the entire point of the story.

    Alternately, they could've subverted expectations by having the basilisk about to win, and the scoutmaster has to save them. Except that doesn't work, either - because the kids, at least temporarily, had the upper hand.

    In summary: What. The. Fuck?

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    A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah I think the writing here is a bigger problem than the art.

    Agreed entirely. I kinda like the art, but the writing seems to go from generic to nonsensical.

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This art just does not work for an action story. At all.

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    DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I thought during the voting that the Lookouts was a very interesting idea and one that looked really good, too. And now we get the guest artist whose work is confusing, a color disaster, and just plain horrible.

    I am waiting for Gabe and Tycho to bust out and be like, "Surprise! It was a ruse while we make some real Lookouts strips!". Until then, ugh!

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I don't have much to say that hasn't been said already. They are confusing and busy and blegh. I'm ready to go back to the crisp, clean look of the regular PA comics now.

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    ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yup. I think the art would be glorious for a one-off painting of the Lookouts, but it's pretty much a complete failure when it comes to conveying dynamic action. The composition does not really work with what seems to be going on. It doesn't direct your eye; it's just confusing.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    So the Lookouts have to do this for themselves. Which they accomplish by... throwing rocks at the thing?

    And then the Scoutmaster blinds the creature, which is presumably the hard part that the kids should've been discovering on their own, and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    Also, the Basilisk breathes blue fire? Bwuh?

    huh

    looking back over the last 2, I think the basilisk pinned the little boy

    and then the other boys threw rocks at it to save their friend

    so I think what they're learning here is teamwork, or camaraderie or something, not really how to kill a basilisk

    I don't like the comic, but I think it mostly makes sense if you can get past the art style

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    BrotherVoodooBrotherVoodoo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Fucking Douchebag lookouts. I have SotC syndrome and I feel sorry for the beast.

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    slacktronslacktron Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ugh.

    I get back from vacation to find this waiting for me?

    Man, I voted for Lookouts. The clarity of the initial treatment's art coupled with the insight revealed in the podcast promised a great story.

    Instead, it's Ren and Stimpy but without the coherency.

    Worst bait and switch ever.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You people are a bunch of whiners

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    bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Antimatter wrote: »
    You people are a bunch of whiners

    With good reason.

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    Ashy LarryAshy Larry Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm so bummed I voted for lookouts. The original comic was brilliant, these... Not so much. :?

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    CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    slacktron wrote: »
    Ugh.

    I get back from vacation to find this waiting for me?

    Man, I voted for Lookouts. The clarity of the initial treatment's art coupled with the insight revealed in the podcast promised a great story.

    Instead, it's Ren and Stimpy but without the coherency.

    Worst bait and switch ever.

    Perfect sum up.

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    slacktron wrote: »
    Ugh.

    I get back from vacation to find this waiting for me?

    Man, I voted for Lookouts. The clarity of the initial treatment's art coupled with the insight revealed in the podcast promised a great story.

    Instead, it's Ren and Stimpy but without the coherency.

    Worst bait and switch ever.

    Perfect sum up.

    ren-or-stimpy.jpg

    Now that you mention it.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Antimatter wrote: »
    You people are a bunch of whiners

    Go read the guest artist's comic. It's like Egyptian hieroglyphics but less coherent and with a worse lack of perspective

    Also a cat owns a pet cat. The fuck ?

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    So the Lookouts have to do this for themselves. Which they accomplish by... throwing rocks at the thing?

    And then the Scoutmaster blinds the creature, which is presumably the hard part that the kids should've been discovering on their own, and afterward it's just game of Poke the Chicken until it stops squawking.

    Also, the Basilisk breathes blue fire? Bwuh?

    huh

    looking back over the last 2, I think the basilisk pinned the little boy

    and then the other boys threw rocks at it to save their friend

    so I think what they're learning here is teamwork, or camaraderie or something, not really how to kill a basilisk

    I don't like the comic, but I think it mostly makes sense if you can get past the art style

    I can get past the weird art once I decide to do so, but the story and writing leaves me completely cold. The writing was lackluster and uncertain, and the story lacked a narrative thread. Things happened, and then, later, unrelated things happened, and in the end, the only lesson was that things had happened. If you look hard enough you might be able to find patterns in the chaos, but it would take some doing.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Not actually a mod. Roaming the streets, waving his gun around.Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited July 2009
    I do feel really bad for the artist/writer. The artist, at least, is clearly talented, and I do like her work. She has a beautiful style. She just shouldn't have agreed to point her talents here.

    I sort of imagine there was a mutual admiration that got in the way. Gabe loved the artist, and the artist loved PA, and neither of them realized what a piss-poor match they made on this particular project.

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I sort of imagine there was a mutual admiration that got in the way. Gabe loved the artist, and the artist loved PA, and neither of them realized what a piss-poor match they made on this particular project.

    This seems to be the most likely scenario.

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I sort of imagine there was a mutual admiration that got in the way. Gabe loved the artist, and the artist loved PA, and neither of them realized what a piss-poor match they made on this particular project.

    This seems to be the most likely scenario.

    I agree.

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    METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Well, the last panel looks pretty cool.

    Here's to hoping that G&T take another shot at this idea at some point.
    Wait, this is all we get? I thought the guest artists were a stop-gap until the real deal was ready. I hope I misunderstood you.

    I don't follow comics to look at guest work. Ah well, I guess I got my fill of red for the month.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Not actually a mod. Roaming the streets, waving his gun around.Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited July 2009
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I sort of imagine there was a mutual admiration that got in the way. Gabe loved the artist, and the artist loved PA, and neither of them realized what a piss-poor match they made on this particular project.

    This seems to be the most likely scenario.

    I agree.

    It'd be nice if there could be some sort of PA/this-chick collaborative effort down the road to kind of build her back up. Like, if she did a painting of the PA cast or something, it would probably turn out really awesome. Just something where her lasting contribution didn't get (justifiably but unfortunately) crapped on by millions of fans.

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    S.S. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well I liked it.

    The art style really grew on me on after multiple viewings and I thought it worked wonderfully.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    S. wrote: »
    Well I liked it.

    The art style really grew on me on after multiple viewings and I thought it worked wonderfully.

    comics are a pretty open format.

    Sadly confusing is hardly an element you ever want in one. A comic you have to read half a dozen times to make sense out of is really a poor comic.

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