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HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Games and Technology
I hopped over to MMO Champion to get the latest updates on World of Warcraft info and ran into something a little unique.
Blizzard trademarks "Cataclysm"
A few days ago Blizzard filed a trademark for "Cataclysm" on the United States Patent and Trademark Office website. Cataclysm was registered for :

* Entertainment services, namely, providing on-line computer games; providing computer games that may be accessed via a global computer network; and providing on-line information in the field of computer gaming entertainment
* Comic books, computer game strategy guides, trading cards, coloring books, adhesive stickers, rub-on transfers, notebooks, stationery-type portfolios, posters, greeting cards, calendars, instructional leaflets in the field of computer games, computer game instruction manuals, catalogs in the field of computer games, advertisement boards of paper or cardboard, photographs, art prints
* Computer game software and related instruction manuals and guides sold together as a unit; downloadable computer game software; interactive multimedia computer game program; mousepads


Below is a small extract of the Latest Status Info on the Trademark Applications and Registrations Retrieval (TARR) Website


LAST APPLICANT(S)/OWNER(S) OF RECORD
Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.
16215 Alton Parkway
Irvine, CA 92618
United States

GOODS AND/OR SERVICES
Class Status: Active
Computer game software and related instruction manuals and guides sold together as a unit; downloadable computer game software; interactive multimedia computer game program; mousepads

2009-06-30 - New Application Office Supplied Data Entered In Tram

2009-06-30 - New Application Entered In Tram

So ... What does it mean? Well, Wrath of the Lich King was trademarked a few weeks before the Blizzcon, we're not going to jump to conclusions here but WoWWiki will most likely give you a few things to think about on their Great Sundering article.

The Great Sundering, also known as simply the Sundering or the Cataclysm was a world event which reshaped Azeroth approximately 10,000 years ago at the end of the War of the Ancients. This event was triggered due to the Well of Eternity being destroyed.

Prior to the Sundering, there was only one continent on Azeroth, referred to as Kalimdor. In the catastrophic explosion, eighty percent of the land mass was destroyed leaving behind the major continents and scattered islands that are known today: Northrend, Kezan, the Eastern Kingdoms, and the remnant still referred to as Kalimdor.

The site of the Well of Eternity became a swirling vortex of power known as the Maelstrom.


A few days ago, one of our user also spotted a test server named "Maelstrom 3 Test" in the US server list (it only showed up for a few seconds, see This post). If the expansion is indeed The Maelstrom/Cataclysm, we can expect to see a few things here:

* Sargeras and/or Deathwing
* Azshara
* Goblins!
So, the possibilities of this being WoW related are super high as usual. But just to throw that curveball out there, there is the possibility that this has something to do with that "next gen MMO" nonsense that has forever been on their hiring webpages.

Blizzcon is coming up soon enough and we'll know for sure I suppose. But hey, why not get into net arguments about it in the meanwhile?

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The Maelstrom is too obvious not to be an expansion to WoW. That's pretty much the only known chunk of the 'normal' world that they haven't covered yet. Beyond that, there's the Emerald Dream, the place where the elementals are sealed, and then they have to get creative.

    jothki on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    jothki wrote: »
    The Maelstrom is too obvious not to be an expansion to WoW. That's pretty much the only known chunk of the 'normal' world that they haven't covered yet. Beyond that, there's the Emerald Dream, the place where the elementals are sealed, and then they have to get creative.

    For sure, but by going with the name Cataclysm (assuming this is WoW related) you can bet that it's going to be Caverns of Time heavy in terms of content.

    Henroid on
  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The only reason I hope it's not WoW related, is I don't want to listen to my WoW-ist co-workers mispronounce "Cataclysm" on a daily basis.

    To this day, one of them still refers to "the King Lynch".

    Tach on
  • NaloutoNalouto Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Put this post in the WoW chat thread. Get your flying mounts outta here!

    Nalouto on
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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Time to bring up this old list:
    - Draenor Set

    Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
    Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20

    Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
    Quel'thalas - 10 to 20
    Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
    Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
    Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
    The Deadlands - 63 to 67
    Nagrand - 64 to 68
    Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
    Netherstorm - 67 to 70
    Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70

    - Northrend Set

    Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
    Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
    Dragonblight - 69 to 72
    Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
    Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
    Zul'drak - 73 to 76
    Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
    Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
    Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80

    - Maelstrom Set

    Gilneas - 77 to 80
    Grim Batol - 78 to 81
    Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
    Kezan - 81 to 86
    Tel Abim - 83 to 85
    Zandalar - 84 to 87
    Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
    The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
    The Maelstrom - 89 to 90

    - Plane Set

    Pandaria - 1 to 10
    Hiji - 10 to 20

    Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
    Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

    The Green Lands - 88 to 91
    The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
    The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
    The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100

    Deephome - 88 to 91
    Skywall - 91 to 94
    The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
    The Firelands - 97 to 100

    - Legion Set

    K'aresh - 96 to 99
    Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
    Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
    Maw of Oblivion - 100+
    The Burning Citadel - 100+++

    Maelstrom as the next expansion is consistent with this old future content rumour list. Sounds good to me.

    Moioink on
  • McAllenMcAllen Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Tach wrote: »
    The only reason I hope it's not WoW related, is I don't want to listen to my WoW-ist co-workers mispronounce "Cataclysm" on a daily basis.

    To this day, one of them still refers to "the King Lynch".

    oh my god that's horrible.

    Someone really should correct them.

    McAllen on
  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    McAllen wrote: »
    Tach wrote: »
    The only reason I hope it's not WoW related, is I don't want to listen to my WoW-ist co-workers mispronounce "Cataclysm" on a daily basis.

    To this day, one of them still refers to "the King Lynch".

    oh my god that's horrible.

    Someone really should correct them.

    I'm thinking we should Lich that guy.

    Garthor on
  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Kotaku thinks it might be a new name for Battle.net.

    Personally, I think that's a silly theory.

    Peewi on
  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Despite having quit WoW recently for probably the 5th time, even mere rumors of the next expansion get me excited about levelling my characters through new content again.

    Steev on
  • BlurblBlurbl -_- Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How do patents work? Basically no videogame title can contain Cataclysm now?

    Wonder what the full title will be. The XXX Cataclysm...

    I was hoping for the Emerald Dream. I liked the idea behind it more, and shouldn't Azshara be more powerful than anything after being exposed to so much Arcane energy in the explosion?

    Blurbl on
  • MidnightSGMidnightSG Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    SteevL wrote: »
    Despite having quit WoW recently for probably the 5th time, even mere rumors of the next expansion get me excited about levelling my characters through new content again.
    Remember!
    It will be awesome, for a few weeks maybe months...however, once you get to the max lv it will be the same exact routine as the past 5 years.
    PS: My money is on killing off Thrall, sucks but it is coming.

    MidnightSG on
  • Funguy McAidsFunguy McAids Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    Funguy McAids on
  • Dr.TongueDr.Tongue Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    I could change a few words in this post and make it about any game ever.

    Dr.Tongue on
  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dr.Tongue wrote: »
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    I could change a few words in this post and make it about any game ever.

    I didn't play Mass Effect for 2000 hours D:

    Dsmart on
  • KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Peewi wrote: »
    Kotaku thinks it might be a new name for Battle.net.

    Personally, I think that's a silly theory.

    As soon as I read through the patent I first thought of it having to do with a bnet service as well. The description of it especially makes it sound like an online service and store, not a game.

    KungFu on
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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    Time to bring up this old list:
    <LIES>
    The list has been proven false. Splitting up the first zone of Lich King into two zones was thought up AFTER the crowded conditions of Burning Crusade. The person who posts that BS claimed it was done well before TBC.

    Sterica on
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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dr.Tongue wrote: »
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    I could change a few words in this post and make it about any game ever.

    Not really.

    Because a lot of games have specific ending points, and recognize that the player will reach the end, plus having more fun things afterwards if the player still wants to play.

    MMOs are designed to last forever.

    Khavall on
  • Dr.TongueDr.Tongue Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    Dr.Tongue wrote: »
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    I could change a few words in this post and make it about any game ever.

    Not really.

    Because a lot of games have specific ending points, and recognize that the player will reach the end, plus having more fun things afterwards if the player still wants to play.

    MMOs are designed to last forever.

    Maybe that's true for single player games but most multiplayer games generally have much much more longevity. I bet there are plenty of people who have played quake/starcraft/tribes etc etc for 2000+ hours.

    Dr.Tongue on
  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dr.Tongue wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Dr.Tongue wrote: »
    I enjoyed WoW until I hit 60 and realized that end-game MMO's are almost entirely based on gambling addiction.

    Seriously the game sucks dick at end game. I can't believe so many people are suckered into this shit for so long.

    Hooray I just spent 6 hours of my life on a chance that a dragon will drop a shirt with a higher number on it than my old shirt!

    I could change a few words in this post and make it about any game ever.

    Not really.

    Because a lot of games have specific ending points, and recognize that the player will reach the end, plus having more fun things afterwards if the player still wants to play.

    MMOs are designed to last forever.

    Maybe that's true for single player games but most multiplayer games generally have much much more longevity. I bet there are plenty of people who have played quake/starcraft/tribes etc etc for 2000+ hours.
    And yet "Any game ever" did not specify multiplayer games.

    Khavall on
  • kurokazekurokaze Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    That list implies a new Pandaren race. Wasn't it strongly implied if not outright stated that a Pandaren playable race was impossible (well, highly undesirable) due to incompatible views of the panda in Chinese culture (a huge WoW market, obviously)?

    That seems to explain the utter lack of any kind of Pandaren presence in WoW (at least, up until I quit) aside from a relatively obscure Barrens quest that mentions a Pandaren from TFT by name and makes no mention of his race.

    It also explains a few things regarding the Draenei reveals, launch, and retcons (the full rumor was that Pandaren was in for TBC and had to be cut due to the China thing resulting in a quick scramble to dig up something that could be shoehorned in)

    Of course, this could have been entirely made up or something. I don't remember what the source was at all.

    I hope that wasn't something I learned from a guildmate that was supposed to be sekrit

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Pandaren could be a race. Wrath of the Lich King STILL doesn't have a Chinese release, I believe, and Blizzard might just say "fuck you all" and stop trying to appease their stupid censorship.

    Sterica on
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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.

    On the other hand, Blizzard has had a lot of art assets for the Emerald Dream since launch.

    Sterica on
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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.

    On the other hand, Blizzard has had a lot of art assets for the Emerald Dream since launch.

    Sterica on
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.

    You're thinking of the Sundering.

    EDIT: As for Pandaren.. I say just make them a special tribe of furbolgs, that bare no resemblance to Pandas, for the Chinese release. I.E. Reskin them.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.
    You're thinking of the Sundering.
    It goes by more than one name. Even the lore refers to it as a cataclysm at one point.

    Also, that'd be a fairly lame name for a new IP.

    Sterica on
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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.
    You're thinking of the Sundering.
    It goes by more than one name. Even the lore refers to it as a cataclysm at one point.

    Also, that'd be a fairly lame name for a new IP.

    I don't see why they'd make something focused on the Sundering and not call it by it's most common name.

    IMO, it sounds like a name for a post-apoc MMO.

    EDIT: I mean, honestly, I think it's worse name for a wow expansion.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Holy extrapolation batman.

    Blizzard ain't touching new MMO material that ain't starcraft or warcraft within the next 10 years

    Dsmart on
  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dsmart wrote: »
    Holy extrapolation batman.

    Blizzard ain't touching new MMO material that ain't starcraft or warcraft within the next 10 years

    Uh, they've stated multiple times that the job listings for a "next-gen mmo" on their website are for a new ip MMO. 'course, the flipside is that even though they've trademarked a name, it doesn't necassarily mean the game (whatever it is, be it a wow expansion or something else) is coming out anytime soon. Just means they've decided upon a name enough to spend money on it.

    Undead Scottsman on
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    The fact that it's just for "Catyclysm" and is also for a wide bearth of media says to me that it's a new franchise and not an extension of an existing one. Blizzard has an new IP MMO, and another new IP game coming out, so it could be either of them.
    Cataclysm is a major event in Warcraft's backstory: an event that revolves around one of the two most likely places the next expansion would take place on.
    You're thinking of the Sundering.
    It goes by more than one name. Even the lore refers to it as a cataclysm at one point.

    Also, that'd be a fairly lame name for a new IP.
    I don't see why they'd make something focused on the Sundering and not call it by it's most common name.
    You mean like World of Warcraft: The Burning Legi- er.....

    Sterica on
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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dsmart wrote: »
    Holy extrapolation batman.

    Blizzard ain't touching new MMO material that ain't starcraft or warcraft within the next 10 years
    You mean like the new IP MMO they've been openly talking about for a while now? The one that the lead WoW designer moved over to work on?

    Although honestly, I bet "Cataclysm" is the next WoW expansion.

    -SPI- on
  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    Time to bring up this old list:
    <LIES>
    The list has been proven false. Splitting up the first zone of Lich King into two zones was thought up AFTER the crowded conditions of Burning Crusade. The person who posts that BS claimed it was done well before TBC.

    Sorry but that list has proven to be way too accurate to be mere hoax or coincidence, even the level ranges are spot on. Blizzard can claim that design choice for starter zones after what happened in TBC but really, there could only be one entry point into Outland and that's through the Dark Portal and into HFP. Geographically there is no other entry point that makes sense within the lore. It's not too outrageous a claim that they had planned two entry points into Northrend well in advance.

    Moioink on
  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    kurokaze wrote: »
    That list implies a new Pandaren race. Wasn't it strongly implied if not outright stated that a Pandaren playable race was impossible (well, highly undesirable) due to incompatible views of the panda in Chinese culture (a huge WoW market, obviously)?

    That seems to explain the utter lack of any kind of Pandaren presence in WoW (at least, up until I quit) aside from a relatively obscure Barrens quest that mentions a Pandaren from TFT by name and makes no mention of his race.

    It also explains a few things regarding the Draenei reveals, launch, and retcons (the full rumor was that Pandaren was in for TBC and had to be cut due to the China thing resulting in a quick scramble to dig up something that could be shoehorned in)

    Of course, this could have been entirely made up or something. I don't remember what the source was at all.

    I hope that wasn't something I learned from a guildmate that was supposed to be sekrit

    I've heard this before, but I've never seen a source for it. There was a Pandaren in Warcraft 3, remember? I'm fairly sure, actually, I'm really sure, that he's in WC3 in China. As a matter of fact, they changed the costume from a quasi-Japanese samurai getup to the monk costume he has now (Before: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/0/0a/Pandarenbrewmaster.JPG and After: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/3/32/Pandaren.jpg ). If anything, they'd just reskin them. Crazy Chinese law states you can't show skeletons or something like that (I still have an old, old Magic: The Gathering card called Drudge Skeletons in Chinese, with the artwork of fleshy zombies somewhere), which is why they patched up the holes in the forsaken's knees and elbows, like so: http://www.loregy.com/wp-content/uploads/new_ud_models-300x235.jpg .
    Also, people turn into little gravestones instead of skeletons when they resurrect, and as someone else pointed out, China still doesn't have the latest expansion.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    Time to bring up this old list:
    <LIES>
    The list has been proven false. Splitting up the first zone of Lich King into two zones was thought up AFTER the crowded conditions of Burning Crusade. The person who posts that BS claimed it was done well before TBC.

    Sorry but that list has proven to be way too accurate to be mere hoax or coincidence, even the level ranges are spot on. Blizzard can claim that design choice for starter zones after what happened in TBC but really, there could only be one entry point into Outland and that's through the Dark Portal and into HFP. Geographically there is no other entry point that makes sense within the lore. It's not too outrageous a claim that they had planned two entry points into Northrend well in advance.

    The list is bullshit. It's been continually updated and reposted with new information over time. Not to mention inconsistencies like it not the zones in Wrath that were planned and later cut.

    -SPI- on
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    Time to bring up this old list:
    <LIES>
    The list has been proven false. Splitting up the first zone of Lich King into two zones was thought up AFTER the crowded conditions of Burning Crusade. The person who posts that BS claimed it was done well before TBC.
    Sorry but that list has proven to be way too accurate to be mere hoax or coincidence, even the level ranges are spot on. Blizzard can claim that design choice for starter zones after what happened in TBC but really, there could only be one entry point into Outland and that's through the Dark Portal and into HFP. Geographically there is no other entry point that makes sense within the lore. It's not too outrageous a claim that they had planned two entry points into Northrend well in advance.
    When was the list supposedly done up? For a good while, Outland was going to be a level 60 chunk of land. I saw this list pop around before Lich King, but it could very well have just been done up by some guy in the LK alpha.

    And it's really easy to just BS a new way into Outland. Hey, these mages all got together and made another portal with the help of dudes on the other side. It leads to Zangarmarsh.

    And you're telling me it's more likely Blizzard lied about when they planned expansion starter zones than some dude BSing about future expansions?

    Sterica on
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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Dsmart wrote: »
    Holy extrapolation batman.

    Blizzard ain't touching new MMO material that ain't starcraft or warcraft within the next 10 years
    You mean like the new IP MMO they've been openly talking about for a while now? The one that the lead WoW designer moved over to work on?

    He said within the next 10 years.
    See what I did there?
    EDIT: Oh wait he said touching, not releasing.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How exactly do patents work? The name "Cataclysm" has never been patented before? Or does that not matter? I am pretty sure that one of EVE's expansions was called Cataclysm.

    edit- Apparently EVE never did have an expansion called "Cataclysm", huh.

    edit 2- It was Homeworld I was thinking of.

    Axen on
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  • kurokazekurokaze Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think the idea wasn't that they couldn't depict pandas in games or some crap, but that having pandas as player characters and all that implies would be too much - I'd even personally find it ever so slightly disturbing to have a quest to collect 10 panda heads or something like the racial kill quests in the original Alterac Valley. I generally assumed that it was probably related to PvP anyway (not wanting to incentivize players to kill pandas).

    I don't know anything about the Chinese censorship laws regarding pandas, if any (though I did know about skeletons, also through Magic). I just remember thinking, at the time that I read that story, that the source was very reliable (near the level of a CM blue post), though I can't for the life of me remember what the source was.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    kurokaze wrote: »
    I think the idea wasn't that they couldn't depict pandas in games or some crap, but that having pandas as player characters and all that implies would be too much - I'd even personally find it ever so slightly disturbing to have a quest to collect 10 panda heads or something like the racial kill quests in the original Alterac Valley. I generally assumed that it was probably related to PvP anyway (not wanting to incentivize players to kill pandas).

    I don't know anything about the Chinese censorship laws regarding pandas, if any (though I did know about skeletons, also through Magic). I just remember thinking, at the time that I read that story, that the source was very reliable (near the level of a CM blue post), though I can't for the life of me remember what the source was.

    But giving people an incentive to kill humans is okay?

    edit- Sorry, I don't mean to sound like an ass, just your logic is a bit flawed.

    edit: Weren't the Pandarans just an April Fools joke that has seemingly developed a life of its own?

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    Time to bring up this old list:
    <LIES>
    The list has been proven false. Splitting up the first zone of Lich King into two zones was thought up AFTER the crowded conditions of Burning Crusade. The person who posts that BS claimed it was done well before TBC.
    Sorry but that list has proven to be way too accurate to be mere hoax or coincidence, even the level ranges are spot on. Blizzard can claim that design choice for starter zones after what happened in TBC but really, there could only be one entry point into Outland and that's through the Dark Portal and into HFP. Geographically there is no other entry point that makes sense within the lore. It's not too outrageous a claim that they had planned two entry points into Northrend well in advance.
    When was the list supposedly done up? For a good while, Outland was going to be a level 60 chunk of land. I saw this list pop around before Lich King, but it could very well have just been done up by some guy in the LK alpha.

    And it's really easy to just BS a new way into Outland. Hey, these mages all got together and made another portal with the help of dudes on the other side. It leads to Zangarmarsh.

    And you're telling me it's more likely Blizzard lied about when they planned expansion starter zones than some dude BSing about future expansions?

    If a bunch of mages could just make a portal in and out of Zangarmarsh why didn't the Alliance surviving contingent at the end of WC2 do that instead of being stranded there for decades? The only way in and out of Outland was through the Dark Portal, not even Blizzard with their spaceships are so trite as to pull another way in to Outland for the sake of a second starting zone. :P

    The list massively predates the WotLK alpha. Link. I am usually very sceptical about this sort of thing but this is just too accurate. This was well before WotLK alpha.

    Whether it's real or not it's still just a harmless bit of fun :) Maelstrom being the next expansion does give that list further credence and well, I really do hope it continues to pan out like that because if so we're in for a real treat.

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