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Bad Posture Is Ruining My Life

blahblah Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Help me H/A, I'm desperate.

So a little background. My wrist has had slight to insane hurt for maybe 2 years now. But I've managed it well with breaks, posture and ice packs when I am absolutely required to use a keyboard for long periods. A few months ago I started getting head pains. Intense ones. I really can't describe the pain involved, it felt like I was dying. I went to my doctor, he told me it was posture almost immediately and gave me some anti inflammatory meds, they worked. But the pain kept coming back eventually despite my best posture attempts. Since then I have moved out and lost my desk and also decided to ditch my chair. I am currently on the couch with the screen on a coffee table, my whole body is in pain. Not just my neck which is killing me, but I have huge headaches, my right shoulder and wrist, right side of my abs, top of my right leg, and right toes. All of these places are hurting badly due to a lack of desk and chair. Problem is I need to use my computer for many hours a day at the least, especially for the next few days.

Saturday at the very latest I AM (100%) buying a chair and desk. I want these both to be bought to maximise posture. Comfort is irrelevant so long as this pain goes away. I would be willing to buy the chair online and get it shipped, but the desk I will buy here. Please assume both items have an unlimited budget, although keep it realistic.

What I need advice on what to get. If not a specific chair, what specifications should I be looking at? Material, back, edging, arms, height, how much it should lean back. What will give me extra posture from a regular chair? As for the desk. Advice? I'm 6ft tall and the top of my hip bone is 1030mm high. Any other advice to relieve pain is so so so welcome.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Don't buy your chair online. You want to be able to sit in it and make sure it's the right fit for you. Some concept photo on Amazon.com isn't going to achieve that.

    Go into a store that sells computer chairs/desks and just talk to a salesperson. Tell him you have problems with your back/posture and you need an ergonomic chair. Be prepared to spend texa$.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The level of pain your post suggests makes me think you should go to a hospital/doctor again.

    If this is exaggerated, and by pain you mean lots of discomfort/mild arthritic pain, then I would just look into a firm, supportive office chair, a desk at a level that matches the natural resting level of your arms, and some gelpads for your mouse and keyboard to rest your wrists on. If it's really bad, try a tempur material contour pillow and elevate your keyboard and mousepad. You can pick up the contoured ones at discount stores for less than $20 bucks, more often than not.

    When you look for a desk or chair, make sure they match heights easily. You want to be able to have your legs and arms resting at easy angles, not having to tuck your legs forward or back to stay seated or dangle. The desk should allow your arms to rest perpendicularly. Try to get one with rounded edges, as prolonged pressure on your forearms can cause various issues as well.

    Sit in them/at them before you buy. I'd suggest starting at an actual retail furniture store, see the highest end, see what works comfort wise, and then shop down until you find something affordable that matches the same feel.

    Both have worked for me in the past when my desk job put a bit too much strain on my arms, but if you are feeling serious pain, see a doctor. Quick fixes won't solve what could be a much more serious problem.

    Enc on
  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You could try getting a kneeling chair and swapping back and forth between the kneeling chair and your normal chair morning/afternoon or something.

    my government apparently has lots to say on the subject, mostly obvious stuff:

    * Adjustability - Check to see that seat height is adjustable.
    * Seat height range - Check whether the seat height can be adjusted to the height recommended for the worker(s) who will use it. Other chairs may have to be selected for very short or tall workers.
    * Backrest - Check to see that the backrest is adjustable both vertically and in the frontward and backward direction.
    * Seat depth - Select the seats that suit the tallest and the shortest users
    * Stability - Check for the stability of the chair; a five-point base is recommended.

    and so forth

    http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/chair.html

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oldsak wrote: »
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.

    That does seem awesome, and the added enjoyment of playing dodgeball in the office is a definite plus. I'm thinking this might help the OP over time, though it would probably agony in the short term. A backless chair might be a good call though.

    Enc on
  • CrystalMethodistCrystalMethodist Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Is that at work? It turns out that if you end up really messing yourself up with RSI or a back problem, you can get workers comp because it was caused by job-related injuries. What this means is that your employer will probably pay for a nicer chair/desk/keyboard/whatever at work to avoid any problems.

    I'd look into an Aeron chair or equivalent. It's expensive, but it's like sitting on sex. No matter what, go and sit on whatever you're going to buy first, because ultimately you're the only one who can figure out if it's comfortable.

    Also, there are some specialists here at work who give free ergonomic evaluations (see workers comp point above) that help you set up your work area. Maybe you could find one not affiliated with a company who can check out your desk?

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    blah wrote: »
    Help me H/A, I'm desperate.

    So a little background. My wrist has had slight to insane hurt for maybe 2 years now. But I've managed it well with breaks, posture and ice packs when I am absolutely required to use a keyboard for long periods. A few months ago I started getting head pains. Intense ones. I really can't describe the pain involved, it felt like I was dying. I went to my doctor, he told me it was posture almost immediately and gave me some anti inflammatory meds, they worked. But the pain kept coming back eventually despite my best posture attempts. Since then I have moved out and lost my desk and also decided to ditch my chair. I am currently on the couch with the screen on a coffee table, my whole body is in pain. Not just my neck which is killing me, but I have huge headaches, my right shoulder and wrist, right side of my abs, top of my right leg, and right toes. All of these places are hurting badly due to a lack of desk and chair. Problem is I need to use my computer for many hours a day at the least, especially for the next few days.

    Saturday at the very latest I AM (100%) buying a chair and desk. I want these both to be bought to maximise posture. Comfort is irrelevant so long as this pain goes away. I would be willing to buy the chair online and get it shipped, but the desk I will buy here. Please assume both items have an unlimited budget, although keep it realistic.

    What I need advice on what to get. If not a specific chair, what specifications should I be looking at? Material, back, edging, arms, height, how much it should lean back. What will give me extra posture from a regular chair? As for the desk. Advice? I'm 6ft tall and the top of my hip bone is 1030mm high. Any other advice to relieve pain is so so so welcome.

    This isn't just posture, get some xrays. It could be arthritis in your spine, if it's something like ankylosing spondylitis or some other form of rheumatoid the sooner you know and begin treatment the less damage you will suffer and the less pain.

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    There are lots of cool "standing position" type setups you can have a desk as/in. That would almost certainly be better for you than whatever you've got.

    NotYou on
  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    blah wrote: »
    Help me H/A, I'm desperate.

    So a little background.....

    This isn't just posture, get some xrays. It could be arthritis in your spine, if it's something like ankylosing spondylitis or some other form of rheumatoid the sooner you know and begin treatment the less damage you will suffer and the less pain.

    This cannot be said enough. It sounds like you are either grossly exaggerating or are in need of serious medical help. If you are feeling severe pain across your body, it's probably more than just arthritis.

    Enc on
  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Can I throw (different) extra advice out there?

    Start running. Slow at first, especially if your posture is bad, but it will help your back. Maybe work out a bit, get some back strength, it will immensly improve your posture.

    If you do do this though seek advice first. The last thing I want is for you to take my advice, do things the wrong way and just hurt your back more.

    Topia on
  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Topia wrote: »
    Can I throw (different) extra advice out there?

    Start running. Slow at first, especially if your posture is bad, but it will help your back. Maybe work out a bit, get some back strength, it will immensly improve your posture.

    If you do do this though seek advice first. The last thing I want is for you to take my advice, do things the wrong way and just hurt your back more.

    Well, exercise is great but running is probably the absolute last thing anyone with joint or bone problems wants to be doing. Hell, people are completely healthy and ruin their joints running.

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  • CleoRoseCleoRose Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    As others have said you will want to talk to a doctor again about your back as that does not sound like normal posture problems. If you get a second opinion and it definitely is caused by that I would recommend finding a good physiotherapist. They will give you exercises to improve posture and strengthen your back and neck muscles, which will help a lot.

    I don't know much about chairs, but looks like other posters have got that covered :)

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Also, don't let them blow you off by giving you muscle relaxers and high dose NSAIDS.

    Get some fucking X-Rays taken. Doctors have this retarded thing where most just write off back pain as something "everyone has". This is bullshit, and you need to advocate just how much pain you are in.

    dispatch.o on
  • blahblah Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm seeing a doctor tomorrow morning, one that I trust to get me fixed. I've been to two doctors total who said posture, after which I figured "Ah well it's not going to kill me". But this last week has really been the straw breaking the camels back. In retrospect I find my attitude to posture reckless, and can now appreciate how horrible my quality of life will be if I keep this shit up. If it is something serious I'll be quite angry at my previous doctors. After today I'm taking a break from work. Tomorrow I will go out and get a nice adjustable chair, gels pads and maybe a second type of chair so I can move the pressure around. I'll see what my doctor has to say about when, but I will start running. Aeron chair looks delicious, hopefully I'll be able to try one out somewhere and see if the money is justified, you sell it quite well btw.

    Thanks H/A

    blah on
  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    could also check out getting a back brace or some other support to better your posture. dont go to a big box store, go to a specialty place that will actually give you a decent quality one thats somewhat fitted to you

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oldsak wrote: »
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.


    That looks like it could seriously mess with your back.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    oldsak wrote: »
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.


    That looks like it could seriously mess with your back.

    It's actually good for your back because it forces you to adopt a good posture to avoid pain. The instability of it helps you build core muscles too.

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  • CleoRoseCleoRose Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    oldsak wrote: »
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.


    That looks like it could seriously mess with your back.

    It's actually good for your back because it forces you to adopt a good posture to avoid pain. The instability of it helps you build core muscles too.

    Those are good to maintain good posture and improve minor posture problems. They are not suitable for someone who is in serious pain or who has a medical condition - instability is the last thing you want if you've got damage in your muscles.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    CleoRose wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    oldsak wrote: »
    I've heard good things about stability balls in lieu of a desk chair.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/12/on-the-ball/


    You have to make sure you get one fitted to you though.


    That looks like it could seriously mess with your back.

    It's actually good for your back because it forces you to adopt a good posture to avoid pain. The instability of it helps you build core muscles too.

    Those are good to maintain good posture and improve minor posture problems. They are not suitable for someone who is in serious pain or who has a medical condition - instability is the last thing you want if you've got damage in your muscles.

    Yeah, I just started sitting on one yesterday, and it was great for my posture, but that also meant a bit of initial discomfort because I'm not used to it. (It also easily ruffles up the shorts/pants and can pinch the butt, and that hurts too). I would probably not suggest it for the OP, but for anybody wanting to try one out: it is fun, and can help, but I wouldn't suggest using it as the only chair you have.

    Icemopper on
  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    For a desk, and this might be a little late, I can't recommend something like this desk enough. Not that specific model/brand necessarily, but that it's split into a keyboard and a monitor part and you can adjust the height of both surfaces individually. It drives me bonkers that every desk/monitor/keyboard combination is never really the correct height for ergonomics without a ton of adjustment/extra crap. Having something you can adjust built in is wonderful!

    Hypatia on
  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    Can I throw (different) extra advice out there?

    Start running. Slow at first, especially if your posture is bad, but it will help your back. Maybe work out a bit, get some back strength, it will immensly improve your posture.

    If you do do this though seek advice first. The last thing I want is for you to take my advice, do things the wrong way and just hurt your back more.

    Well, exercise is great but running is probably the absolute last thing anyone with joint or bone problems wants to be doing. Hell, people are completely healthy and ruin their joints running.

    I was thinking of suggesting yoga or pilates. Something to help build core strength as a lot of people with bad posture just aren't strong enough to sit properly, so end up slouching because it's easier to let the joints take the strain rather than the muscles.

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