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Sure internet people can be good friends before meeting them. Not everyone can make this psychological distinction but there certainlt isn't a definition exclusion occurring that permits anyone to definitely say 'until a person's been met, they can't be a friend". Something like "for me, personally, the threshold is never met until we hang out" would make more sense, I think.
There is a physical aspect to companionship (whether for friendship or romance) that cannot be conveyed over the internet.
This is entirely arbitrary. For you this may be the case, but it's a pretty out there invisible limit to place on everyone. You haven't sacrificed for your country until you've lost a finger- no, a hand- no, an arm- no, your life, etc. Everyone sets personal standards for judgments of these sorts: measuring something intangible or without malleable form. For you the fullness of a 'friend' can't be realized without physical interaction but holding that as a grail seems totally unfounded.
Are you friends with the people you work with, or are they simply work-related acquaintances that you see at the office but don't spend your free time with? How do you distinguish between the two?
Sure internet people can be good friends before meeting them. Not everyone can make this psychological distinction but there certainlt isn't a definition exclusion occurring that permits anyone to definitely say 'until a person's been met, they can't be a friend". Something like "for me, personally, the threshold is never met until we hang out" would make more sense, I think.
There is a physical aspect to companionship (whether for friendship or romance) that cannot be conveyed over the internet.
This is entirely arbitrary. For you this may be the case, but it's a pretty out there invisible limit to place on everyone. You haven't sacrificed for your country until you've lost a finger- no, a hand- no, an arm- no, your life, etc. Everyone sets personal standards for judgments of these sorts: measuring something intangible or without malleable form. For you the fullness of a 'friend' can't be realized without physical interaction but holding that as a grail seems totally unfounded.
The problem is you don't actually know someone until you meet them. I mean, for all (most of) you guys know, I'm actually a hot, female personal trainer in peak physical condition, and I just pretend to be a fat guy on the internet.
You also don't have a clue as to what my personality is like, how I react to social stimuli, the sorts of things I say when I'm not editing my post five times before the ninja timer runs out, etc.
I don't know that you have a dick until I see you without pants- maybe you're a really good tranny. This is crazy in how arbitrary it is. I'm not claiming that you can 'fully' know someone without physical contact- you can't ever really fully know anyone unless you kill them, eat their organs, drink their soul, and live inside them. Everything is along a gradient. Are you 'further along' the gradient after having met them? Probably, yeah. Does meeting them necessarily push you past the invisible 'this is a friend and not an acquiantance' benchmark? Absolutely not, not for everyone. For some people that point was met before.
Sure internet people can be good friends before meeting them. Not everyone can make this psychological distinction but there certainlt isn't a definition exclusion occurring that permits anyone to definitely say 'until a person's been met, they can't be a friend". Something like "for me, personally, the threshold is never met until we hang out" would make more sense, I think.
There is a physical aspect to companionship (whether for friendship or romance) that cannot be conveyed over the internet.
This is entirely arbitrary. For you this may be the case, but it's a pretty out there invisible limit to place on everyone. You haven't sacrificed for your country until you've lost a finger- no, a hand- no, an arm- no, your life, etc. Everyone sets personal standards for judgments of these sorts: measuring something intangible or without malleable form. For you the fullness of a 'friend' can't be realized without physical interaction but holding that as a grail seems totally unfounded.
The problem is you don't actually know someone until you meet them. I mean, for all (most of) you guys know, I'm actually a hot, female personal trainer in peak physical condition, and I just pretend to be a fat guy on the internet.
You also don't have a clue as to what my personality is like, how I react to social stimuli, the sorts of things I say when I'm not editing my post five times before the ninja timer runs out, etc.
I can vouch that you are, in fact, a giant tub of lard. You're a loveable, hate-filled tub of lard, but a tub of lard nonetheless. Unless, of course, you're a hot, female personal trailer wearing the skin of a giant fat ass.
Sure internet people can be good friends before meeting them. Not everyone can make this psychological distinction but there certainlt isn't a definition exclusion occurring that permits anyone to definitely say 'until a person's been met, they can't be a friend". Something like "for me, personally, the threshold is never met until we hang out" would make more sense, I think.
There is a physical aspect to companionship (whether for friendship or romance) that cannot be conveyed over the internet.
This is entirely arbitrary. For you this may be the case, but it's a pretty out there invisible limit to place on everyone. You haven't sacrificed for your country until you've lost a finger- no, a hand- no, an arm- no, your life, etc. Everyone sets personal standards for judgments of these sorts: measuring something intangible or without malleable form. For you the fullness of a 'friend' can't be realized without physical interaction but holding that as a grail seems totally unfounded.
The problem is you don't actually know someone until you meet them. I mean, for all (most of) you guys know, I'm actually a hot, female personal trainer in peak physical condition, and I just pretend to be a fat guy on the internet.
You also don't have a clue as to what my personality is like, how I react to social stimuli, the sorts of things I say when I'm not editing my post five times before the ninja timer runs out, etc.
I can vouch that you are, in fact, a giant tub of lard. You're a loveable, hate-filled tub of lard, but a tub of lard nonetheless. Unless, of course, you're a hot, female personal trailer wearing the skin of a giant fat ass.
He's Eddie Murphy?
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edited July 2009
You never know, he could be.
This conversation has taken a turn for the stupid so I will simply fall back on none of you really existing, this computer, my body, etc. All just figments of my sleepy imagination.
I used to be all about knowing people on the internet being great and perfectly fine. These days I can only sometimes handle what internet-only communication brings out of people.
Not even really Greater Whatever It Is Dickwad Theory, just ... the dehumanized way people communicate, especially when you meet them infrequently outside of chat/posting, is kind of odd. Like you can all be sitting there together, but everyone is mentally at a remove, watching their own body sitting in the room with the other people. It's very strange.
I guess your intellects know each other but your bodies don't? I'm not sure how to put my finger on what it is.
I used to be all about knowing people on the internet being great and perfectly fine. These days I can only sometimes handle what internet-only communication brings out of people.
Not even really Greater Whatever It Is Dickwad Theory, just ... the dehumanized way people communicate, especially when you meet them infrequently outside of chat/posting, is kind of odd. Like you can all be sitting there together, but everyone is mentally at a remove, watching their own body sitting in the room with the other people. It's very strange.
I guess your intellects know each other but your bodies don't? I'm not sure how to put my finger on what it is.
I used to be all about knowing people on the internet being great and perfectly fine. These days I can only sometimes handle what internet-only communication brings out of people.
Not even really Greater Whatever It Is Dickwad Theory, just ... the dehumanized way people communicate, especially when you meet them infrequently outside of chat/posting, is kind of odd. Like you can all be sitting there together, but everyone is mentally at a remove, watching their own body sitting in the room with the other people. It's very strange.
I guess your intellects know each other but your bodies don't? I'm not sure how to put my finger on what it is.
You know the best way to break the ice and get over those sorts of feelings?
I used to be all about knowing people on the internet being great and perfectly fine. These days I can only sometimes handle what internet-only communication brings out of people.
Not even really Greater Whatever It Is Dickwad Theory, just ... the dehumanized way people communicate, especially when you meet them infrequently outside of chat/posting, is kind of odd. Like you can all be sitting there together, but everyone is mentally at a remove, watching their own body sitting in the room with the other people. It's very strange.
I guess your intellects know each other but your bodies don't? I'm not sure how to put my finger on what it is.
You know the best way to break the ice and get over those sorts of feelings?
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Are you friends with the people you work with, or are they simply work-related acquaintances that you see at the office but don't spend your free time with? How do you distinguish between the two?
I don't know that you have a dick until I see you without pants- maybe you're a really good tranny. This is crazy in how arbitrary it is. I'm not claiming that you can 'fully' know someone without physical contact- you can't ever really fully know anyone unless you kill them, eat their organs, drink their soul, and live inside them. Everything is along a gradient. Are you 'further along' the gradient after having met them? Probably, yeah. Does meeting them necessarily push you past the invisible 'this is a friend and not an acquiantance' benchmark? Absolutely not, not for everyone. For some people that point was met before.
In person I tend to adopt a super polite, gentle persona, which has fuckall to do with my actual thoughts.
I can vouch that you are, in fact, a giant tub of lard. You're a loveable, hate-filled tub of lard, but a tub of lard nonetheless. Unless, of course, you're a hot, female personal trailer wearing the skin of a giant fat ass.
Regardless, you still look like you fucking kill hookers for your Friday night fun.
but they're listening to every word I say
He's Eddie Murphy?
This conversation has taken a turn for the stupid so I will simply fall back on none of you really existing, this computer, my body, etc. All just figments of my sleepy imagination.
good night [chat]
Try for my True Zen Conduct. In the Zen conduct, your character wears a blind fold. In the True Zen conduct, you wear the blind fold.
but they're listening to every word I say
I meant more like... suggestions on how to live past level 5
but they're listening to every word I say
Inducing fear has been one of my best survival mechanisms since 2nd grade. Glad to see it works so well.
chill with the hostility. I am more awesome in real life. That's about it.
fuck
yes.
I bet you've written Ender's Game fanfiction.
All blowing up small parts of the country to prove that I love it.
Unless corn or police officers are anywhere within ten yards of you.
Not even really Greater Whatever It Is Dickwad Theory, just ... the dehumanized way people communicate, especially when you meet them infrequently outside of chat/posting, is kind of odd. Like you can all be sitting there together, but everyone is mentally at a remove, watching their own body sitting in the room with the other people. It's very strange.
I guess your intellects know each other but your bodies don't? I'm not sure how to put my finger on what it is.
but they're listening to every word I say
Honestly I think i'm pretty much the same. Cept I don't talk about feelings/problems in real life.
Never read anything from Card except his "how to write fantasy" book. :P
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And yes, Than is very nice.
But he doesn't give hugs like Quid does.
There's nobody on the planet more modest and humble than me.
Hey, me too. Most of my real life is a sequence of elaborate lies.
Online I tell you fuckers exactly what I think.
Why in the world would I be anything but nice to them?
You know the best way to break the ice and get over those sorts of feelings?
Orgy.
that theory is wrong anyway. Lots of people don't need anonymity to already be dickwads.
but they're listening to every word I say
Okay, you go first, moniker. :winky:
Fantastic.
sucks so much. i guess that's why i hate hipsters.
Working for me so far.
I wasn't disapproving of this attitude.
I don't tell you guys everything either, but my tone is much more natural here.
Partly because there are so many people here that I can't single out anyone for fucking with.
In person I usually only have a few people to deal with so I can fuck with their minds and so slip into one act or another.