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Xbox Live! PSA regarding adverts.

MeizMeiz Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Games and Technology
Hey gang.

It seems like I found a way you can get the adds taken away from Live! if you chose to do so.

http://kotaku.com/5305928/microsoft-comments-on-360-dash-advertisements

Of course I have a gold account but I'll be damned if I was going to sit idle and let this kind of tripe lie.

I emailed the damned support group for live and got this response:
Hello Pascal,

This is Henry. Thank you for contacting Microsoft online support for XBOX.

I understand that you don't feel like wanting the Silver light ads on the Xbox 360 consoles dashboard that was placed recently on Xbox Live. We apologize for any inconvenience.

We are looking into all of the feedbacks sent in by our members and take it very seriously. We are doing everything in our power to address service issues brought to our attention and we maintain an internal database of suggestions that we consult and prioritize.

Should you need to reply to this e-mail, please reply 'with history' (include any previous e-mail) or reference to Service Request Number 1106021009 so we can expedite our service to you.

Thank you for visiting Xbox.com. If you should have future questions on Xbox products or services, please be sure to revisit our Web site as we are continually adding information to enhance our service.

Best Regards,

Henry
Microsoft XBOX Support Services
http://support.microsoft.com/

I responded with : What is it exactly that you are doing to take this feedback seriously? Providing a pay to use service or being bombarded with adverts on a bloody home console, something I already paid a hefty sum for, is unacceptable. Especially when your competitors are doing no such thing and offering their service for free.

As a result their latest response informed me that if you want to remove the adverts, you can contact their phone support and it'll get done.

Enjoy.

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    ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well fuck me I hadn't heard about the ads. As if we already don't have a shitload of them in the NXE crossbars anyway.

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    Recoil42Recoil42 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh for fuck's sake, stop whining.

    It's obvious they're just using Silverlight to better animate the slots in the NXE that they already have ads on -- basically, the ads already on NXE will have much more flash-like animation, with support for video rather than the simple zoom-and-scaling they're limited to right now.

    They're not planning to plaster banner ads across your screen, that would be silly. (It's Microsoft, so silly wouldn't be out of the question -- but it's clear from the wording of what they've said before that the intention is to make the ads richer, not more plentiful)

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    UEAKCrashUEAKCrash heh Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    Oh for fuck's sake, stop whining.

    It's obvious they're just using Silverlight to better animate the slots in the NXE that they already have ads on -- basically, the ads already on NXE will have much more flash-like animation, rather than the simple zoom-and-scaling they're limited to right now.

    They're not planning to plaster banner ads across your screen, that would be silly.

    Which I get. However, their competitor is providing a free service with zero ads. I can understand if they did it with a silver account, but this is crap. The fact that they upgraded it with their Silverlight thing has nothing to do with it. So help them if they start throwing in sound on the ads.

    Good to hear that there is a way to get rid of them though, albeit a pain, I'm sure.

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    ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I've liked the NXE because it's made the ads less intrusive for me - the old dash used to sit them squarely over the best parts of the old themes.

    If the ads become more intrusive I'll ask for them to be removed, but as they stand I don't find them to be much of a bother.

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    BrymBrym Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    While the screenshot (Mock-up?) in the Kotaku article is rather garish, I really don't care about ads unless they are intrusive. Will I have to wait for a McDonalds ad to buffer and play before I can play a dvd, or launch an arcade game? Will I be forced to view an ad for jeans before I am allowed to view my marketplace search results?

    As long as they're little banner ads and such, another billboard for Coke in my life won't make me like the swill.

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

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    SollahSollah Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Didn't the old dashboard have ads? I don't remember people getting up in arms about that. Not saying that ads are good, just that getting up in arms about this and demanding only silver members have them/price cut on monthly fees seems pointless.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

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    ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    Who's up for a class action for all the RSI issues caused by this? It's willful and malicious, I tells ya!

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    APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    This basically; I find the ads for Xbox Live content that leads directly to the page for that content (be it a competition, XBLA game or Movie on Demand) really useful.

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    Dammit, ads are an intrusion on my inalienable human rights.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    NotACrook wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    Dammit, ads are an intrusion on my inalienable human rights.

    Exactly! Vivre la revolucion! We should make posters and let everyone know..

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    NotACrook wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    Dammit, ads are an intrusion on my inalienable human rights.

    Wait, you mean your copy of the Declaration of Independence didn't have banner ads? Fuck.

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    ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Lunker wrote: »
    Wait, you mean your copy of the Declaration of Independence didn't have banner ads? Fuck.

    Amazon wants to put ads in electronicallyl distributed out-of-print and rare books.

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Threepio wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Wait, you mean your copy of the Declaration of Independence didn't have banner ads? Fuck.

    Amazon wants to put ads in electronicallyl distributed out-of-print and rare books.

    I have a hard time getting worked up about either this or the XBL ads.

    When they start replacing locations in classic books with KFC or Taco Bell, then I might care. Otherwise, there easy enough to look past.

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    This basically; I find the ads for Xbox Live content that leads directly to the page for that content (be it a competition, XBLA game or Movie on Demand) really useful.

    Maybe it's from all these years on the internet, but even if I see an ad for something I'm interested in, I deliberately take the long way - searching for it as if the ad hadn't been there. I used to do it because clicking an ad would usually take you through some bizarro route or to a topsites page, now it's just habit.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Threepio wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Wait, you mean your copy of the Declaration of Independence didn't have banner ads? Fuck.

    Amazon wants to put ads in electronicallyl distributed out-of-print and rare books.

    That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Genuinely retarded.

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    EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    eh, don't be such a dick about it.

    ads aren't such a big deal, but you know what? I'm paying fifty dollars a year for this service, which is NOT a small fee. I ought to be able to turn the ads off.



    Not a big deal to freak out about, I just think that if they want to support Live through ad revenue, they ought to give the service away for free.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sollah wrote: »
    Didn't the old dashboard have ads? I don't remember people getting up in arms about that. Not saying that ads are good, just that getting up in arms about this and demanding only silver members have them/price cut on monthly fees seems pointless.

    Yeah so I don't have an XBox... can anyone confirm the ads existed on the service beforehand? I mean, if you put up with them before, can't you do it again?

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    NitsuaNitsua Gloucester, VARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You know, people pay about fifty dollars A MONTH for cable and you still get ads. You also pay about fifty a month for internet and get ads. Just deal with it or cancel... about your only two choices really.

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    EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Nitsua wrote: »
    You know, people pay about fifty dollars A MONTH for cable and you still get ads. You also pay about fifty a month for internet and get ads. Just deal with it or cancel... about your only two choices really.

    That doesn't make it "okay"



    How about I point out that PSN is completely free, and the only ads are on the bulitent board or in the marketplace, not in the XMB itself?

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Nitsua wrote: »
    You know, people pay about fifty dollars A MONTH for cable and you still get ads. You also pay about fifty a month for internet and get ads. Just deal with it or cancel... about your only two choices really.

    That doesn't make it "okay"



    How about I point out that PSN is completely free, and the only ads are on the bulitent board or in the marketplace, not in the XMB itself?

    Honestly, if you haven't learned how - in this society - to ignore advertisements in any medium, the problem is with you.

    The only leeway I'm willing to give on that statement is popups when browsing the web, because that's actually invasive and halts whatever you're doing for the tiniest of time. Unless you're smart and have ABP or some shit.

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    EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Nitsua wrote: »
    You know, people pay about fifty dollars A MONTH for cable and you still get ads. You also pay about fifty a month for internet and get ads. Just deal with it or cancel... about your only two choices really.

    That doesn't make it "okay"



    How about I point out that PSN is completely free, and the only ads are on the bulitent board or in the marketplace, not in the XMB itself?

    Honestly, if you haven't learned how - in this society - to ignore advertisements in any medium, the problem is with you.

    The only leeway I'm willing to give on that statement is popups when browsing the web, because that's actually invasive and halts whatever you're doing for the tiniest of time. Unless you're smart and have ABP or some shit.

    Like I said, dude. It's not a big deal to me (like it seems to be for some other posters), it's just a personal prefference.



    As far as Live goes, at the very least they should let me choose where it defaults to when I turn it on. I'm not going to freak out because they won't, but I still wish they would.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Brym wrote: »
    Frankly, I like the ads. Telling me that the new Fallout DLC is out in an NXE ad just saves me from having to look it up for myself on the web. Obviously a Doritos ad is less relevant, but I'm not sure how you make it through life if a little thing like that bothers you.

    A thousand times this. Everyone whines and bitches about the Spotlight channel, but when I booted up the other day, the first slot was exactly what I was logging on to buy: Worms 2 Armageddon on XBLA. It also does a nice job of highlighting awesome Rock Band DLC and other map packs and such that a large majority of people (i.e., people who don't obsess over refreshing video game forums every 15 seconds) probably wouldn't know about until they saw these ads.

    I understand that the vast majority of people are Taking a Stand Based on Principle when it comes to these kinds of fights, and maybe I'm just getting old or whatever but it seems so ridiculously inane.

    But but but but I pay for the service and they still advertise to me!

    It's not like they do that in magaz.. damn.

    Okay, I'm gonna watch televi... son of a bitch.

    To the cinemWHAT THE HELL GUYS?!


    And they make you go to the effort of pushing the stick 'up' or 'down' once to avoid them. It's a swindle.

    eh, don't be such a dick about it.

    ads aren't such a big deal, but you know what? I'm paying fifty dollars a year for this service, which is NOT a small fee. I ought to be able to turn the ads off.



    Not a big deal to freak out about, I just think that if they want to support Live through ad revenue, they ought to give the service away for free.

    All I'm doing is pointing out that there's a lot of entertainment services that you pay for, that still subsidize with ads. Magazines are full of them, and buying a subscription doesn't get you an ad-free issue. I don't know how your TV stations are in the States, but trying to watch Sky over here (which you pay for on top of your TV license) and you get what feels like an equal ratio of TV show to adverts.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    The only issue I have with this is that it provides a financial validation for Sliverlight.

    Stop trying to make Silverlight a thing Microsoft, it isn't going to happen.

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    Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    What the hell is Sliverlight?

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    What the hell is Sliverlight?

    Microsoft Flash.

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    MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    All I'm doing is pointing out that there's a lot of entertainment services that you pay for, that still subsidize with ads. Magazines are full of them, and buying a subscription doesn't get you an ad-free issue. I don't know how your TV stations are in the States, but trying to watch Sky over here (which you pay for on top of your TV license) and you get what feels like an equal ratio of TV show to adverts.

    I don't buy magazines for two reasons. Their information is usually out of date due to the Internet and you get far more adverts then you would simply loading up a website. I seldom watch television anymore and instead view things via on demand services which are commercial free. There's also the point where you're 200 dollar console, esentially a PC, now has a kaleidoscope of shit you didn't pay for, yet someone else is getting paid to force it onto you. It's unjustified spyware basically.

    Edit: Also if you think this is simply the NXE dashboard, you're wrong. Let me just post the whole damn thing...
    Sean Alexander, director at Microsoft's Advertising Business Group, has suggested that you could soon be seeing advertisements every time you fire up your 360 dashboard.

    Apparently, Microsoft "plans to bring IAB specifications for rich media technologies, including Silverlight, to Xbox Live within the year". With Silverlight being Microsoft's version of/competitor to Flash, MediaPost say "Silverlight-powered media on Xbox will have the same appearance as ads seen on a Web browser".

    Since the goal is for advertising companies to launch the same campaign across multiple platforms - desktop, TV, mobile phone and Surface (Microsoft's touch-screen table) - it sounds a lot like the tech would be used on the 360 to display ads on your dashboard. And not the gaming ads you already see. Regular ads.

    This had better only be for Silver users. I'm not paying an annual fee to get stuck with ads.

    We've contacted Microsoft for an explanation of how exactly this tech will be used with Xbox Live, and will update if we hear anything.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Meiz, explain to me in simple, non-emotional terms, why having adverts on your xbox will be bad.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    I'll keep the adverts if they give me free service.

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    PacifistPacifist Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    UEAKCrash wrote: »
    Recoil42 wrote: »
    Oh for fuck's sake, stop whining.

    It's obvious they're just using Silverlight to better animate the slots in the NXE that they already have ads on -- basically, the ads already on NXE will have much more flash-like animation, rather than the simple zoom-and-scaling they're limited to right now.

    They're not planning to plaster banner ads across your screen, that would be silly.

    Which I get. However, their competitor is providing a free service with zero ads. I can understand if they did it with a silver account, but this is crap. The fact that they upgraded it with their Silverlight thing has nothing to do with it. So help them if they start throwing in sound on the ads.

    Good to hear that there is a way to get rid of them though, albeit a pain, I'm sure.

    Their competitor is providing a free service with zero ads that is complete shit compared to what 360 users pay for.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    All I'm doing is pointing out that there's a lot of entertainment services that you pay for, that still subsidize with ads. Magazines are full of them, and buying a subscription doesn't get you an ad-free issue. I don't know how your TV stations are in the States, but trying to watch Sky over here (which you pay for on top of your TV license) and you get what feels like an equal ratio of TV show to adverts.

    I don't buy magazines for two reasons. Their information is usually out of date due to the Internet and you get far more adverts then you would simply loading up a website. I seldom watch television anymore and instead view things via on demand services which are commercial free. There's also the point where you're 200 dollar console, esentially a PC, now has a kaleidoscope of shit you didn't pay for, yet someone else is getting paid to force it onto you. It's unjustified spyware basically.

    Edit: Also if you think this is simply the NXE dashboard, you're wrong. The article stipulates more.

    When you buy their console and agree to their terms, they absolutely have the right to put their adverts on it if they wish. It's not being forced onto you, you can unplug your console from the internet. Calling it 'unjustified spyware' is just a flagrant show of hyperbole.

    I hear that silverlight causes the disc tray to eject when you walk past your console (using Natal to sense when you're in the room, of course) so that you might step on it and snap it off. Then you need to buy a new console to play all your games you bought for it, because you're so indebted to them.
    Or it tries to trap your inquisitive cat, because Microsoft are just bastards.

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Meiz wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    All I'm doing is pointing out that there's a lot of entertainment services that you pay for, that still subsidize with ads. Magazines are full of them, and buying a subscription doesn't get you an ad-free issue. I don't know how your TV stations are in the States, but trying to watch Sky over here (which you pay for on top of your TV license) and you get what feels like an equal ratio of TV show to adverts.

    I don't buy magazines for two reasons. Their information is usually out of date due to the Internet and you get far more adverts then you would simply loading up a website. I seldom watch television anymore and instead view things via on demand services which are commercial free. There's also the point where you're 200 dollar console, esentially a PC, now has a kaleidoscope of shit you didn't pay for, yet someone else is getting paid to force it onto you. It's unjustified spyware basically.

    Edit: Also if you think this is simply the NXE dashboard, you're wrong. Let me just post the whole damn thing...
    Sean Alexander, director at Microsoft's Advertising Business Group, has suggested that you could soon be seeing advertisements every time you fire up your 360 dashboard.

    Apparently, Microsoft "plans to bring IAB specifications for rich media technologies, including Silverlight, to Xbox Live within the year". With Silverlight being Microsoft's version of/competitor to Flash, MediaPost say "Silverlight-powered media on Xbox will have the same appearance as ads seen on a Web browser".

    Since the goal is for advertising companies to launch the same campaign across multiple platforms - desktop, TV, mobile phone and Surface (Microsoft's touch-screen table) - it sounds a lot like the tech would be used on the 360 to display ads on your dashboard. And not the gaming ads you already see. Regular ads.

    This had better only be for Silver users. I'm not paying an annual fee to get stuck with ads.

    We've contacted Microsoft for an explanation of how exactly this tech will be used with Xbox Live, and will update if we hear anything.

    ...you mean the part where the writer is speculating on his/her own about what the potential application of Silverlight could be? You neglected to bold "It sounds a lot like..."

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    RoxtarRoxtar Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DEFEND OUR RIGHT TO PAY FOR ADS, DUR! You guys are awsome....

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    LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Roxtar wrote: »
    DEFEND OUR RIGHT TO PAY FOR ADS, DUR! You guys are awsome....

    It's not about that so much as "Ads aren't really that big of a deal." I'm used to separating wheat from chaff and ignoring things that I deem idiotic—two skills everyone who frequents message boards should be very familiar with. emot-eng101.gif

    That said, the original intent of Meiz's OP is awesome—if there's a way for people who dislike the ads to remove them, then go ahead!

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    PacifistPacifist Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Seriously, if you people are as internet adept as you make yourselves out to be a few ads here and there on the dashboard shouldn't mean shit.

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    4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Meiz, explain to me in simple, non-emotional terms, why having adverts on your xbox will be bad.

    Waiting that extra couple seconds to play your console because some advertisement has to finish playing is actually wasting my time in a meaningful way. Now if it's just a small image and doesn't impact the boot up time of my 360, I won't care. The new ads don't sound like they'll be non-intrusive though. All we can do is wait and see at this point.

    The current ads aren't bothersome enough for me to call live support to get removed for me, however. The choice is nice to have, but I'd be wasting more time by calling them than just ignoring the ads. Sometimes it's nice to know what just came out or is coming out on XBLA or for DLC though.
    An option for gaming only advertisements would be peachy.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, by all means, if there's a way to get rid of the adverts and you're that offended by them to go through the motions, then go nuts.

    Personally, I'm going to take the word of someone who knows what's going on over someone who's speculating how it'll shape up, especially when the latter wants that lovely bill-paying internet traffic.
    I’ve seen quite a bit of discussion today about how we’re bringing Silverlight ads to LIVE in the future.
    I need to let you know that you don’t need to worry about a huge influx of ads across the dashboard. One of our core principles is to enhance, not interfere with the gaming experience, and we work directly with our partners to only deliver experiences that are relevant to the LIVE community. Silverlight will help make those ads a more organic part of the dashboard, like we’ve done with some of the NXE slots in the past. No one on the team wants to turn the dashboard into something that looks like like Shibuya Crossing. That’s just not good for anyone.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Major Nelson. Moar liek Commissar Nelsonski, rite?

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