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Background:
I have a decent job making $60K/year, but I am generally unhappy with the company and the way we are headed. I have been here 12 years, and am in a stable field.
I watch the major job sites for interesting jobs in my field (IT Business Analyst/Project Manager), but seldom apply to jobs unless they really interest me. I am really looking for the perfect job and won't settle for anything less because I am already gainfully employed.
Today I saw one that is with an IT Marketing firm that sounds right up my alley. Creative, high profile company. Their posting came from Dice, and I am sure if I submit my cover letter and CV, I would be just one of hundreds. The listing had the Hiring Contact's name and the company web site said "Call, email, or stop in for a visit!" on their contact page.
Would it be to over zealous if I went into the company and asked for the hiring contact by name, introduce myself to her and hand deliver my CV/Cover letter printed on nice paper to avoid the flood of Dice submissions and put myself in her memory? Would you remember this or be annoyed by it at a hiring manager?
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Background:
I have a decent job making $60K/year, but I am generally unhappy with the company and the way we are headed. I have been here 12 years, and am in a stable field.
I watch the major job sites for interesting jobs in my field (IT Business Analyst/Project Manager), but seldom apply to jobs unless they really interest me. I am really looking for the perfect job and won't settle for anything less because I am already gainfully employed.
Today I saw one that is with an IT Marketing firm that sounds right up my alley. Creative, high profile company. Their posting came from Dice, and I am sure if I submit my cover letter and CV, I would be just one of hundreds. The listing had the Hiring Contact's name and the company web site said "Call, email, or stop in for a visit!" on their contact page.
Would it be to over zealous if I went into the company and asked for the hiring contact by name, introduce myself to her and hand deliver my CV/Cover letter printed on nice paper to avoid the flood of Dice submissions and put myself in her memory? Would you remember this or be annoyed by it at a hiring manager?
It did say "Stop in for a visit.". This also means you're going to be one of a hundred people who stop in personally.
Esh may be right - you might be one of hundred of people who stop in for a visit... but I think many people will be way too shy to just stop in for a visit.
But - on the other side of the coin - if 100s of people actually DO stop in for a visit, I'd bet big money that the person who gets hired will come from the pool of people who DID stop in personally, rather than people who just applied online.
And what's wrong with being overzealous? I don't know exactly what you do for a living, but I think most bosses would rather hire someone enthusiastic about getting the job done, rather than someone quiet and shy.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Esh may be right - you might be one of hundred of people who stop in for a visit... but I think many people will be way too shy to just stop in for a visit.
But - on the other side of the coin - if 100s of people actually DO stop in for a visit, I'd bet big money that the person who gets hired will come from the pool of people who DID stop in personally, rather than people who just applied online.
And what's wrong with being overzealous? I don't know exactly what you do for a living, but I think most bosses would rather hire someone enthusiastic about getting the job done, rather than someone quiet and shy.
When I moved back to Portland, any job that had you drop off resumes in person, there were dozens upon dozens of people dropping off resumes. In this economy everyone is trying to make an impression.
I'd stop in for a visit to drop off the resume being confident and memorable. I'd bring treats to the receptionist to have and offer to other people as well. If you do something out of the ordinary, it's usually how people will get to remember you.
Then, once you come back, email talent@blahblah and let them know you poped by, left some candy at the front, would love to work for them and attached is your resume.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
I'd stop in for a visit to drop off the resume being confident and memorable. I'd bring treats to the receptionist to have and offer to other people as well. If you do something out of the ordinary, it's usually how people will get to remember you.
Then, once you come back, email talent@blahblah and let them know you poped by, left some candy at the front, would love to work for them and attached is your resume.
Do not bring "treats" or gifts. They're going to think you're insane or a kiss ass.
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Would it be to over zealous if I went into the company and asked for the hiring contact by name, introduce myself to her and hand deliver my CV/Cover letter printed on nice paper to avoid the flood of Dice submissions and put myself in her memory? Would you remember this or be annoyed by it at a hiring manager?
I don't think the line between "obviously wants the job pretty damned badly" and annoying is very thin. I think it's a good idea. Treats would be silly.
I eat lunch with a fairly big time recruiter at my company pretty often and I can just picture the conversation: "Hey, fill that whatever position yet?"
"No, I got a lot of resumes though. This one guy came in to deliver his in person. He meets all the requirements and seemed nice, I think I'll bring him in for an interview."
Of course it helps if you're the only person who does it, but I really don't know if that'll be the case.
Anyhoo....12 years of IT Business and Project Management and 60k a year? I deal with various engineering companies (mostly aerospace related work where I am) and the fresh outta college IT guys probably start around 50-60k, I figure the PMs are close to 6 digits. Wouldn't managing IT projects for the space program be kinda cool?
I'd stop in for a visit to drop off the resume being confident and memorable. I'd bring treats to the receptionist to have and offer to other people as well. If you do something out of the ordinary, it's usually how people will get to remember you.
Then, once you come back, email talent@blahblah and let them know you poped by, left some candy at the front, would love to work for them and attached is your resume.
Do not bring "treats" or gifts. They're going to think you're insane or a kiss ass.
Correct. At my last place a guy came in like 2 days after his interview and brought us donuts. We pretty much ruled him out as a psycho.
Showing up is a great idea if they are welcoming it. There's no better way to do it, I think.
Anyhoo....12 years of IT Business and Project Management and 60k a year? I deal with various engineering companies (mostly aerospace related work where I am) and the fresh outta college IT guys probably start around 50-60k, I figure the PMs are close to 6 digits. Wouldn't managing IT projects for the space program be kinda cool?
Nope, 12 years at the company. I started at age 20 at $9.50/hour. They paid for me to go through school and earn my degree. Business Analyst has been my title for 5 years and I do tons of light PM work. I know I am underpaid and underutilized, hence my desire to move someplace else.
Tell me which would be better:
1. Go visit and ask for the hiring contact (Not sure if she is HR or the Hiring Manager). Deliver my Resume, tell her I am very interested in working there and would love to talk to her further. Thank her for her time and leave.
2. Send my resume and CL to talents@blahblah.com (from Careers page) and call the next day. Ask for Hiring Contact, ask if she received my resume, explain my desire to work there, tell her I am very picky about the places I apply because I will only apply to jobs I think i would love. Thank her for her time and tell her I hope to speak with her again.
There will be no food, snacks, treats, flirting with the receptionist, washing the bosses' car, or sending gift baskets to every employee for a month. These are my two options and I will be executing one or the other tomorrow, Thursday, July 9th.
I'd vote for the first option. Even if tons of other people do go in to visit, there will be alot less of them than there will be of people emailing in and calling. It's just a matter of different people have different thresholds of what they see as "worth it", some may top out at emailing in (perhaps because they live out of town) while others will feel it worthwhile to visit in person.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Anyhoo....12 years of IT Business and Project Management and 60k a year? I deal with various engineering companies (mostly aerospace related work where I am) and the fresh outta college IT guys probably start around 50-60k, I figure the PMs are close to 6 digits. Wouldn't managing IT projects for the space program be kinda cool?
Nope, 12 years at the company. I started at age 20 at $9.50/hour. They paid for me to go through school and earn my degree. Business Analyst has been my title for 5 years and I do tons of light PM work. I know I am underpaid and underutilized, hence my desire to move someplace else.
Tell me which would be better:
1. Go visit and ask for the hiring contact (Not sure if she is HR or the Hiring Manager). Deliver my Resume, tell her I am very interested in working there and would love to talk to her further. Thank her for her time and leave.
2. Send my resume and CL to talents@blahblah.com (from Careers page) and call the next day. Ask for Hiring Contact, ask if she received my resume, explain my desire to work there, tell her I am very picky about the places I apply because I will only apply to jobs I think i would love. Thank her for her time and tell her I hope to speak with her again.
There will be no food, snacks, treats, flirting with the receptionist, washing the bosses' car, or sending gift baskets to every employee for a month. These are my two options and I will be executing one or the other tomorrow, Thursday, July 9th.
Do not tell them you are "very picky". That sounds awful. They're going to think you're an ass.
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It did say "Stop in for a visit.". This also means you're going to be one of a hundred people who stop in personally.
But - on the other side of the coin - if 100s of people actually DO stop in for a visit, I'd bet big money that the person who gets hired will come from the pool of people who DID stop in personally, rather than people who just applied online.
And what's wrong with being overzealous? I don't know exactly what you do for a living, but I think most bosses would rather hire someone enthusiastic about getting the job done, rather than someone quiet and shy.
When I moved back to Portland, any job that had you drop off resumes in person, there were dozens upon dozens of people dropping off resumes. In this economy everyone is trying to make an impression.
On the Company's careers page it says "If you are interested in joining the BlahBlah team, please send your resume to talent@BlahBlah.com."
On the Company's contact page of the it said "We are available via phone, email, or a visit anytime!"
Would it still be presumptuous of me to go there personally to drop off the resume?
Then, once you come back, email talent@blahblah and let them know you poped by, left some candy at the front, would love to work for them and attached is your resume.
Do not bring "treats" or gifts. They're going to think you're insane or a kiss ass.
or trying to get laid...
The glitter queen struck again. Never hire Tobias Fünke.
I don't think the line between "obviously wants the job pretty damned badly" and annoying is very thin. I think it's a good idea. Treats would be silly.
I eat lunch with a fairly big time recruiter at my company pretty often and I can just picture the conversation: "Hey, fill that whatever position yet?"
"No, I got a lot of resumes though. This one guy came in to deliver his in person. He meets all the requirements and seemed nice, I think I'll bring him in for an interview."
Of course it helps if you're the only person who does it, but I really don't know if that'll be the case.
Anyhoo....12 years of IT Business and Project Management and 60k a year? I deal with various engineering companies (mostly aerospace related work where I am) and the fresh outta college IT guys probably start around 50-60k, I figure the PMs are close to 6 digits. Wouldn't managing IT projects for the space program be kinda cool?
Correct. At my last place a guy came in like 2 days after his interview and brought us donuts. We pretty much ruled him out as a psycho.
Showing up is a great idea if they are welcoming it. There's no better way to do it, I think.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
Nope, 12 years at the company. I started at age 20 at $9.50/hour. They paid for me to go through school and earn my degree. Business Analyst has been my title for 5 years and I do tons of light PM work. I know I am underpaid and underutilized, hence my desire to move someplace else.
Tell me which would be better:
1. Go visit and ask for the hiring contact (Not sure if she is HR or the Hiring Manager). Deliver my Resume, tell her I am very interested in working there and would love to talk to her further. Thank her for her time and leave.
2. Send my resume and CL to talents@blahblah.com (from Careers page) and call the next day. Ask for Hiring Contact, ask if she received my resume, explain my desire to work there, tell her I am very picky about the places I apply because I will only apply to jobs I think i would love. Thank her for her time and tell her I hope to speak with her again.
There will be no food, snacks, treats, flirting with the receptionist, washing the bosses' car, or sending gift baskets to every employee for a month. These are my two options and I will be executing one or the other tomorrow, Thursday, July 9th.
Do not tell them you are "very picky". That sounds awful. They're going to think you're an ass.