I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
Microsoft are legally allowed to do it, so the only thing keeping them from doing it more often is public disapproval.
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
Microsoft are legally allowed to do it, so the only thing keeping them from doing it more often is public disapproval.
Well right, but it's rather funny that a "criticism" of Vista is that it looks like OS X, when OS X looks more and more like windows.
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
I love "Sultans of Swing" so much. Also, there's a guy at the local NPR station that's friends with Knopfler. Apparently, the radio dude e-mailed him years ago when the Web was still fairly young, and ever since then Knopfler has sent him a pre-release copy of his albums.
So, how about that Vista? Have you any of you checked it out?
I have absolutely no intention of installing Vista or ever using the thing if I can help it.
This is pretty much my plan.
Dear Linux geeks,
Please make your OS user-friendly.
Love,
Thanatos
Seconded. Also it must run my games.
Dear Windows users,
Please yell at your game developers to port games to Linux. id and Epic already do, don't worry about them. Start with Valve, we could really use a Steam client.
Alternatively, switch to consoles for gaming.
Thanks,
Warlock.
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
Microsoft are legally allowed to do it, so the only thing keeping them from doing it more often is public disapproval.
Well right, but it's rather funny that a "criticism" of Vista is that it looks like OS X, when OS X looks more and more like windows.
I hate this criticism of Windows, especially since I hear it mostly from Mac fanatics.
Jesus, you like Mac OS, and you're pissed that Windows steals from it? That's like me complaining "shit, this cookie tastes fucking delicious. They stole from that other cookie, fuckers!"
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
Is the biggest difference in the two architectures that the x64 allows for more RAM?
Sorta; x64 provides twice the address space, so it can handle maths far better. It also supports newer instruction sets, giving it an advantage over a lot of processors that are out. In essence, it's providing computers with more processing power.
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
Microsoft are legally allowed to do it, so the only thing keeping them from doing it more often is public disapproval.
Well right, but it's rather funny that a "criticism" of Vista is that it looks like OS X, when OS X looks more and more like windows.
I hate this criticism of Windows, especially since I hear it mostly from Mac fanatics.
Jesus, you like Mac OS, and you're pissed that Windows steals from it? That's like me complaining "shit, this cookie tastes fucking delicious. They stole from that other cookie, fuckers!"
Actually, it's more because Mac is doing the exact same thing.
I love "Sultans of Swing" so much. Also, there's a guy at the local NPR station that's friends with Knopfler. Apparently, the radio dude e-mailed him years ago when the Web was still fairly young, and ever since then Knopfler has sent him a pre-release copy of his albums.
The Sailing To Philadelphia album is epic. I could listen to Speedway at Nazareth all night.
Proto on
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took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
Is the biggest difference in the two architectures that the x64 allows for more RAM?
x86_64 has more general-purpose registers, and the registers have more space (64 bits instead of 32).
If you've never programmed in assembly language: general-purpose registers are a little bit of extremely fast memory located actually inside the processor that hold immediate values that have been loaded from memory or wherever. If you have a constantly-used value and you have to load it from memory every time, it will be slower (and more of a pain to code) than if you can keep it in a register the entire time. Also, it makes coding in asm a hell of a lot easier.
x86_32 has four general purpose registers (eax, ebx, ecx, edx), four registers that are technically general purpose but really you have to be careful with how you use them (esi, edi, esp, ebp) and a couple of registers that you can't fuck with very much if at all (eip, eflags, the section registers, etc.). x86_64 adds another eight general purpose registers (r8, r9, r10, r11, r12, r13, r14, r15). Also, all x86_64 registers are 64 bits long instead of 32.
EDIT: Also, I guess they added in some more stuff that has to do with SSE. I dunno, I've never coded with SSE before.
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
I'll agree with this for the most part—most Linux distros, once installed, will work pretty well for the average user. For people that fall between "what is an OS?" and "well I guess I'll just code this because I don't like other implementations", Linux falls apart. There's shitloads of choices, few of them more than passable, and I don't want to have to deal with the command prompt if I don't have to, and screw Sourceforge, and my wireless card doesn't work, what now?
In summary: maybe in five years it'll have enough suck removed that I'll consider using it. 'Til then, I'm happy with Windows and OS X.
Looks like I'm gonna fly into JFK, but I'm in New York from the 28th of December until the 2nd of January. Choose a day (the 29th or 30th would be best), and we'll get together and hang out.
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
I'll agree with this for the most part—most Linux distros, once installed, will work pretty well for the average user. For people that fall between "what is an OS?" and "well I guess I'll just code this because I don't like other implementations", Linux falls apart. There's shitloads of choices, few of them more than passable, and I don't want to have to deal with the command prompt if I don't have to, and screw Sourceforge, and my wireless card doesn't work, what now?
In summary: maybe in five years it'll have enough suck removed that I'll consider using it. 'Til then, I'm happy with Windows and OS X.
God damn it, what is it with people hating the command line? Okay, the command line in Windows XP sucks ass. The command line in a *nix system is often the best way to do things. I've got a little app that puts a mini-command line right on my taskbar, I don't know where I'd be without it. Yeah, it takes some learning, but so does everything worthwhile.
And shitloads of choices is a natural result of having every program able to be forked at any time. I suppose it does have its downsides.
I actually just took an assembly language and micro-architecture course this semester, so I am reading the wiki on the x64 and actually understanding a lot of it. :P
I actually just took an assembly language and micro-architecture course this semester, so I am reading the wiki on the x64 and actually understanding a lot of it. :P
It's really cool, and I didn't get to use any of it in my asm class this semester because nobody else (least of all our Linux computer lab where we write all our code and all the computers are outdated hand-me-downs from the Windows rooms) has a 64 bit OS running.
I actually just took an assembly language and micro-architecture course this semester, so I am reading the wiki on the x64 and actually understanding a lot of it. :P
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
I'll agree with this for the most part—most Linux distros, once installed, will work pretty well for the average user. For people that fall between "what is an OS?" and "well I guess I'll just code this because I don't like other implementations", Linux falls apart. There's shitloads of choices, few of them more than passable, and I don't want to have to deal with the command prompt if I don't have to, and screw Sourceforge, and my wireless card doesn't work, what now?
In summary: maybe in five years it'll have enough suck removed that I'll consider using it. 'Til then, I'm happy with Windows and OS X.
God damn it, what is it with people hating the command line? Okay, the command line in Windows XP sucks ass. The command line in a *nix system is often the best way to do things. I've got a little app that puts a mini-command line right on my taskbar, I don't know where I'd be without it. Yeah, it takes some learning, but so does everything worthwhile.
And shitloads of choices is a natural result of having every program able to be forked at any time. I suppose it does have its downsides.
I don't hate the command prompt; I'm fairly handy with it. But why make me use it when there's no need? I don't want to compile programs. I understand that Linux is based on open source, but dammit guys, get things together so you can distribute a single binary that'll function on every distro.
Shitloads of choices is purely composed of downsides for somebody who doesn't want to deal with a thousand poor implementations for the same thing, doesn't want to chase around bugs, and doesn't have any personal stake in a project's leadership or direction.
Like Wikipedia, Linux is slowly moving from "horrible, barely-usable mess" to "something that's decent, and maybe even useful". But I have no intention or need to use it in the meantime.
I actually just took an assembly language and micro-architecture course this semester, so I am reading the wiki on the x64 and actually understanding a lot of it. :P
It's really cool, and I didn't get to use any of it in my asm class this semester because nobody else (least of all our Linux computer lab where we write all our code and all the computers are outdated hand-me-downs from the Windows rooms) has a 64 bit OS running.
My class was an intro course so we did our coding on a sim of the LC-3, which only has eight total GPR's and really only seven when you consider that R7 holds the PC.
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
I'll agree with this for the most part—most Linux distros, once installed, will work pretty well for the average user. For people that fall between "what is an OS?" and "well I guess I'll just code this because I don't like other implementations", Linux falls apart. There's shitloads of choices, few of them more than passable, and I don't want to have to deal with the command prompt if I don't have to, and screw Sourceforge, and my wireless card doesn't work, what now?
In summary: maybe in five years it'll have enough suck removed that I'll consider using it. 'Til then, I'm happy with Windows and OS X.
God damn it, what is it with people hating the command line? Okay, the command line in Windows XP sucks ass. The command line in a *nix system is often the best way to do things. I've got a little app that puts a mini-command line right on my taskbar, I don't know where I'd be without it. Yeah, it takes some learning, but so does everything worthwhile.
And shitloads of choices is a natural result of having every program able to be forked at any time. I suppose it does have its downsides.
The biggest problem with linux is the documentation. The result of all these hackers developing software is that although the software might be good, the documentation sucks ass. Even if you know a whole bunch about computers and software (ie. CS degree), it's a huge pain in the ass to find out how to do some simple things. And I really don't have hours to spend.
Proto on
and her knees up on the glove compartment
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I will admit that my experience with Linux is limited, but what I did use (which was supposed to be a fairly user-friendly interface) was so counter-intuitive that it took me five minutes to figure out how to do anything.
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I actually just took an assembly language and micro-architecture course this semester, so I am reading the wiki on the x64 and actually understanding a lot of it. :P
It's really cool, and I didn't get to use any of it in my asm class this semester because nobody else (least of all our Linux computer lab where we write all our code and all the computers are outdated hand-me-downs from the Windows rooms) has a 64 bit OS running.
My class was an intro course so we did our coding on a sim of the LC-3, which only has eight total GPR's and really only seven when you consider that R7 holds the PC.
Ouch. We at least got x86.
I will admit that my experience with Linux is limited, but what I did use (which was supposed to be a fairly user-friendly interface) was so counter-intuitive that it took me five minutes to figure out how to do anything.
Out of curiousity, what were you using and what were you trying to do? Usability bugs are bugs too.
Looks like I'm gonna fly into JFK, but I'm in New York from the 28th of December until the 2nd of January. Choose a day (the 29th or 30th would be best), and we'll get together and hang out.
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Nixon was actually a great president if you were to compare him to Bush. How frightening of a statement is that?
Finger Dancing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp5jPbhnA1I&mode=related&search=
I am but my pinky refuses to strum properly. It just refuses! At this rate I'll never be able to play Carry on My Wayward Son.
On the black screen
If I could sig this, I would.
I kinda dig the interface, although they did rip off MAC in a lot of places. I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out; I don't plan on buying a new computer (to meet those hefty sys req's) anytime soon
http://salsasharkclerks.ytmnd.com/
At this point, they've ripped off each other so much it doesn't matter.
Well right, but it's rather funny that a "criticism" of Vista is that it looks like OS X, when OS X looks more and more like windows.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nS956FdMPfc
Is the biggest difference in the two architectures that the x64 allows for more RAM?
Dear Windows users,
Please yell at your game developers to port games to Linux. id and Epic already do, don't worry about them. Start with Valve, we could really use a Steam client.
Alternatively, switch to consoles for gaming.
Thanks,
Warlock.
(And modern Linux distributions are pretty damn user friendly, after the install process anyway. Windows's installer is even worse, but you never see it unless something bombs horribly, because Windows comes pre-installed. Just realize that there are some major fundamental differences, do just a little bit of learning, not much, and you'll be fine.)
Jesus, you like Mac OS, and you're pissed that Windows steals from it? That's like me complaining "shit, this cookie tastes fucking delicious. They stole from that other cookie, fuckers!"
Actually, it's more because Mac is doing the exact same thing.
The Sailing To Philadelphia album is epic. I could listen to Speedway at Nazareth all night.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
Five hours of Twilight Princess
x86_64 has more general-purpose registers, and the registers have more space (64 bits instead of 32).
If you've never programmed in assembly language: general-purpose registers are a little bit of extremely fast memory located actually inside the processor that hold immediate values that have been loaded from memory or wherever. If you have a constantly-used value and you have to load it from memory every time, it will be slower (and more of a pain to code) than if you can keep it in a register the entire time. Also, it makes coding in asm a hell of a lot easier.
x86_32 has four general purpose registers (eax, ebx, ecx, edx), four registers that are technically general purpose but really you have to be careful with how you use them (esi, edi, esp, ebp) and a couple of registers that you can't fuck with very much if at all (eip, eflags, the section registers, etc.). x86_64 adds another eight general purpose registers (r8, r9, r10, r11, r12, r13, r14, r15). Also, all x86_64 registers are 64 bits long instead of 32.
EDIT: Also, I guess they added in some more stuff that has to do with SSE. I dunno, I've never coded with SSE before.
In summary: maybe in five years it'll have enough suck removed that I'll consider using it. 'Til then, I'm happy with Windows and OS X.
Looks like I'm gonna fly into JFK, but I'm in New York from the 28th of December until the 2nd of January. Choose a day (the 29th or 30th would be best), and we'll get together and hang out.
God damn it, what is it with people hating the command line? Okay, the command line in Windows XP sucks ass. The command line in a *nix system is often the best way to do things. I've got a little app that puts a mini-command line right on my taskbar, I don't know where I'd be without it. Yeah, it takes some learning, but so does everything worthwhile.
And shitloads of choices is a natural result of having every program able to be forked at any time. I suppose it does have its downsides.
It's really cool, and I didn't get to use any of it in my asm class this semester because nobody else (least of all our Linux computer lab where we write all our code and all the computers are outdated hand-me-downs from the Windows rooms) has a 64 bit OS running.
Shitloads of choices is purely composed of downsides for somebody who doesn't want to deal with a thousand poor implementations for the same thing, doesn't want to chase around bugs, and doesn't have any personal stake in a project's leadership or direction.
Like Wikipedia, Linux is slowly moving from "horrible, barely-usable mess" to "something that's decent, and maybe even useful". But I have no intention or need to use it in the meantime.
My class was an intro course so we did our coding on a sim of the LC-3, which only has eight total GPR's and really only seven when you consider that R7 holds the PC.
The biggest problem with linux is the documentation. The result of all these hackers developing software is that although the software might be good, the documentation sucks ass. Even if you know a whole bunch about computers and software (ie. CS degree), it's a huge pain in the ass to find out how to do some simple things. And I really don't have hours to spend.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
Shitloads of choices are a pure negative for someone who would rather go get drunk than read a manual.
I count myself squarely in the "someone figure this out for me, because I'm going to go have fun now" camp.
Ouch. We at least got x86.
Out of curiousity, what were you using and what were you trying to do? Usability bugs are bugs too.
I am all about this.
Seriously.
Edit: the 30th would work best for me.