I bought all of the combos for my Iaido-sword that I could but I still had more than a hundred skill points left.
How do you buy character specific super moves? Like highly damaging throws, combos etc that are uniques. I know you can, but I can't access them. Do you have to have learned the skill before you can use it?
Buy moves? Well, you have to have learned them from a sword in order to use them for your created sword. Most special attacks are harder to acquire and require you to have the sword up to a certain level, if I'm not mistaken.
Someone else will have to answer that because well, I don't know. Didn't even know that was possible. Though I think just using the weapon will unlock skills for it, it does for the leek at least.
As far as I understand, when you first build your sword you are granted a fixed number of skill points (the sum of the skill points of the parts used). After you specify which stance to use it in, you then have to specify what moves you want the sword to have, from a list of moves you have learned from other swords (or via items). Each move, or chain of moves, take up a number of skill points. You just keep on assigning until you run out of skill points. It sounds like you have not learned all the Iaido skills to have that many skill points left.
There are no "character specific" moves. I believe there are sword specific moves.
Yep, that was the problem. I haven't learned enough moves yet. *sigh*
Oh well, more for the next uber sword right?
Speaking of which, is there an enemy type that frequently drops "wooden blade" parts (the blade isn't wood, just the scabbard)? I'm on hard mode now looking for them.
Also, I gotta say, the Nobunaga ending is pretty satisfying.
Sure, you screw over everyone, but you get your revenge on Shuzen and pave the way for Nobunaga's invasion. The lovey dovey, rebuild the Sakurai clan is just a fantasy when faced with the overwhelming might of the Sixth Demon Lord. It felt the best story wise to me. Trying to get the Rindo endings now, so maybe that will change.
Right, but it beats sinking in an extra 5000 Yen into a sword just to get that last extra bit of damage/defense, not to mention if Dojima is being a dick and keeps on LOWERING your sword stats.
I'm not that much of a min-maxer, if I can't get decent stats after a soft reset or two, I just assume use items and forge on.
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Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
The way to do sword upgrades is this:
Save up a bunch of money, at least 50k
Take sword to blacksmith and retry each upgrade until your total points is at least +20 (15/15 is the max)
There are hundreds of items to customize your samurai with (by buying and unlocking), dozens of costumes and ten faces to go along with that. Each of the accessories can be individually enlarged, rotated or placed. That's not counting DLC. In addition, there are a hundred swords/spears/gag weapons and you can DESIGN your own custom one out of parts. Each weapon is upgradable. There are eight or so combat techniques, four difficulty settings and 22 endings.
Oh yeah, and each time you defeat an enemy with a non-lethal blow, instead of getting their weapon, you unlock their skin as playable.
Yes, now you can play as a wandering Biwa playing oldman Samurai who can kill Feudal Lords with a single blow.
Finally started this today since I finished the GoW Collection. My first go probably mirrored everyone's; I broke my sword hitting people, and then got killed by someone pretty nondescript. (The protector for that little stand in the village.) My second go is going much better. I joined with the...not Fujimori clan after I 'failed' the battle royale to get into the Fujimori clan. Showed those fuckers whatfor. And I've just been doing jobs since then.
I quit the job because I couldn't find the goddamn thing, but does anybody know where the dog is? Or is it completely random?
Finally started this today since I finished the GoW Collection. My first go probably mirrored everyone's; I broke my sword hitting people, and then got killed by someone pretty nondescript. (The protector for that little stand in the village.) My second go is going much better. I joined with the...not Fujimori clan after I 'failed' the battle royale to get into the Fujimori clan. Showed those fuckers whatfor. And I've just been doing jobs since then.
I quit the job because I couldn't find the goddamn thing, but does anybody know where the dog is? Or is it completely random?
The 'find the X' jobs are a pain in the ass, they're random.
Have fun finding the three ninjas who you must defeat sequentially and who teleport to a new insane hiding place if you don't kill them fast enough.
If you're having a hard time, play on easy mode, save yen, and buy items that increase your health bar from merchants. The game takes a while before you really see the pay off.
Finally started this today since I finished the GoW Collection. My first go probably mirrored everyone's; I broke my sword hitting people, and then got killed by someone pretty nondescript. (The protector for that little stand in the village.) My second go is going much better. I joined with the...not Fujimori clan after I 'failed' the battle royale to get into the Fujimori clan. Showed those fuckers whatfor. And I've just been doing jobs since then.
I quit the job because I couldn't find the goddamn thing, but does anybody know where the dog is? Or is it completely random?
The 'find the X' jobs are a pain in the ass, they're random.
Have fun finding the three ninjas who you must defeat sequentially and who teleport to a new insane hiding place if you don't kill them fast enough.
If you're having a hard time, play on easy mode, save yen, and buy items that increase your health bar from merchants. The game takes a while before you really see the pay off.
Yeah, I'm playing on easy. Not really had a problem outside of getting killed that first time (which, default weapon, and it broke. Expected.) Just trying to take some advice from the thread and spend a couple plays on easy, building up before I really start trying. Got quite a few weapons in the safe and I think I've got around 1,000 yen in my safe for now. The only 'issues' I'm having is just -finding- anything. I finally found the second blacksmith after searching everywhere, and even then, all I had money (on me) to do was get my spears durability back to 3.
I guess that's the other issue. I'm just not noticing how much of a toll my weapon takes when I use it like I did with the original, so I've broken about three or four swords, and lost a point of durability on my main spear. Still not that much of an issue. Like I said, I'm having fun just getting used to everything for now.
Now every day, you can pimp out the clan for 1,000 yen. Just don't ask more than once per day.
Highest paying easy repeatable jobs: Sword theater at the road and station (need a partner), ringing the temple bell for the old woman at the road.
Also, you can murder Dojima to get ALL of your money back after you upgrade your swords. This works for merchants too. It'll cost you Samurai Points, but you can easily make them back.
Now every day, you can pimp out the clan for 1,000 yen. Just don't ask more than once per day.
Highest paying easy repeatable jobs: Sword theater at the road and station (need a partner), ringing the temple bell for the old woman at the road.
Also, you can murder Dojima to get ALL of your money back after you upgrade your swords. This works for merchants too. It'll cost you Samurai Points, but you can easily make them back.
Hrm. I might try that on my second play since I know my way around the place now.
About how hard are the Dojimas? WotS1 hard, or less so?
On easy, they're a joke, especially if your weapon has around 20+ attack or greater. There's no benefit to fighting them on a higher difficulty other than to do the trick I mentioned. Just attack constantly and don't give them a chance to use throws. If you have guard breakers, use them. A pepper is also a good investment.
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edited January 2010
Okay, question time - what is this game? Is it an open world feudal Japan action game where if you die the game ends? Because that's what it sounds like, and that sounds awesome.
Now every day, you can pimp out the clan for 1,000 yen. Just don't ask more than once per day.
Highest paying easy repeatable jobs: Sword theater at the road and station (need a partner), ringing the temple bell for the old woman at the road.
Also, you can murder Dojima to get ALL of your money back after you upgrade your swords. This works for merchants too. It'll cost you Samurai Points, but you can easily make them back.
Don't forget the two respawnable swords for an extra 600 per day.
Okay, question time - what is this game? Is it an open world feudal Japan action game where if you die the game ends? Because that's what it sounds like, and that sounds awesome.
YES.
Kind of like that.
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Okay, question time - what is this game? Is it an open world feudal Japan action game where if you die the game ends? Because that's what it sounds like, and that sounds awesome.
YES.
Kind of like that.
So, take Bushido Blade and put it in an open world game with missions and crafting and stuff? Why don't I have this already?
The game does have an instant kill system on all normal difficulties (a perfect block followed by pressing X, which can then chain kill until you've destroyed half an army), but most named lieutenants and bosses can't be IK'ed, and thus you have the health bars. If you have a REALLY powerful sword though, it maybe takes three or four hits to kill a minion, around 20 or so for a boss.
Instant kill difficulty is really, really hard. You have to learn a whole different play style to even get halfway through the story.
Plus you get ninja fighting styles and weapons too, plus around eight other styles, if that doesn't sell you, nothing will.
You should totally go for it. Best Samurai game I own. It's a harsh mistress at first, but worth it.
This has probably been brought up in the thread, and I haven't actually tried investigating it at all (couldn't play today), so if it's glaringly obvious, then sorry in advance.
If you break a weapon, can you get it fixed? And if so, will it be what it was beforehand? Or if you break a good sword, then you're kinda screwed if you liked it? I didn't break anything I was attached to, but I broke a few things, and I just wanted to know if I should toss them out of my storage or if I could get them restored later on.
NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Hmm... I remember in WotS2 that if you repaired a blade it lost one of the heat boxes or whatever they're called (go up whenever you strike and REALLY go up if you block)
Durability. If you lose a bar of durability, you can get another one at the blacksmith's. As for completely broken swords, I don't think you can have those reforged.
You shouldn't even come close to ever breaking a sword in this game though, unless it's a 2-Durability sword you picked up off some schmo.
Durability. If you lose a bar of durability, you can get another one at the blacksmith's. As for completely broken swords, I don't think you can have those reforged.
You shouldn't even come close to ever breaking a sword in this game though, unless it's a 2-Durability sword you picked up off some schmo.
I think you can actually, it was listed as an option at Dojima's for 2000 yen, but I haven't tried it myself.
Yeah, the ones I broke were 2 Durability and they were pretty much right after I started, so I wasn't even thinking about it. I'm surprised that I broke the default sword, though. :oops:
So, if I kill Gojuro when he's alone I can't get his weapon, since it cuts right to the next scene, right? And if I do kill him, does Yuma and the girl just disappear? I did that earlier because I was bored since nothing was happening, and I couldn't find either of them anywhere. I saved right before fighting him and it was easy enough so I can do it again (I didn't save after that), but I kinda don't want them to just up and disappear.
Man, I've spent the last few days playing the crap out of this game and have only finished like a third of the endings and have barely learnt any skills. Sometimes it really sucks being a completionist.
What ending would you guys recommend going for on hard difficulty? I think I'll be saving a lot when going for that.
Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
On my first Hard run I assassinated Shuzen. I actually killed him several times and reloading because I kept trying to get both of his swords before the cut scene started.
Man, I've spent the last few days playing the crap out of this game and have only finished like a third of the endings and have barely learnt any skills. Sometimes it really sucks being a completionist.
What ending would you guys recommend going for on hard difficulty? I think I'll be saving a lot when going for that.
Unless you got a really good sword and some health boost, do one that doesn't require fighting one of the bigger bads. The selfless sacrifice is pretty easy to get.
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I bought all of the combos for my Iaido-sword that I could but I still had more than a hundred skill points left.
How do you buy character specific super moves? Like highly damaging throws, combos etc that are uniques. I know you can, but I can't access them. Do you have to have learned the skill before you can use it?
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There are no "character specific" moves. I believe there are sword specific moves.
Oh well, more for the next uber sword right?
Speaking of which, is there an enemy type that frequently drops "wooden blade" parts (the blade isn't wood, just the scabbard)? I'm on hard mode now looking for them.
Also, I gotta say, the Nobunaga ending is pretty satisfying.
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I'm pretty sure those items use up a quality point.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I'm not that much of a min-maxer, if I can't get decent stats after a soft reset or two, I just assume use items and forge on.
Save up a bunch of money, at least 50k
Take sword to blacksmith and retry each upgrade until your total points is at least +20 (15/15 is the max)
When finished, kill blacksmith and get money back
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
There are hundreds of items to customize your samurai with (by buying and unlocking), dozens of costumes and ten faces to go along with that. Each of the accessories can be individually enlarged, rotated or placed. That's not counting DLC. In addition, there are a hundred swords/spears/gag weapons and you can DESIGN your own custom one out of parts. Each weapon is upgradable. There are eight or so combat techniques, four difficulty settings and 22 endings.
Oh yeah, and each time you defeat an enemy with a non-lethal blow, instead of getting their weapon, you unlock their skin as playable.
Yes, now you can play as a wandering Biwa playing oldman Samurai who can kill Feudal Lords with a single blow.
I quit the job because I couldn't find the goddamn thing, but does anybody know where the dog is? Or is it completely random?
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That would explain why I had no luck finding him by running around and looking for a dog. Oh well.
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The 'find the X' jobs are a pain in the ass, they're random.
Have fun finding the three ninjas who you must defeat sequentially and who teleport to a new insane hiding place if you don't kill them fast enough.
If you're having a hard time, play on easy mode, save yen, and buy items that increase your health bar from merchants. The game takes a while before you really see the pay off.
Yeah, I'm playing on easy. Not really had a problem outside of getting killed that first time (which, default weapon, and it broke. Expected.) Just trying to take some advice from the thread and spend a couple plays on easy, building up before I really start trying. Got quite a few weapons in the safe and I think I've got around 1,000 yen in my safe for now. The only 'issues' I'm having is just -finding- anything. I finally found the second blacksmith after searching everywhere, and even then, all I had money (on me) to do was get my spears durability back to 3.
I guess that's the other issue. I'm just not noticing how much of a toll my weapon takes when I use it like I did with the original, so I've broken about three or four swords, and lost a point of durability on my main spear. Still not that much of an issue. Like I said, I'm having fun just getting used to everything for now.
KILL the boss of the Ouka, ignore Rindo and Yuma.
Become boss of the Ouka clan.
Now every day, you can pimp out the clan for 1,000 yen. Just don't ask more than once per day.
Highest paying easy repeatable jobs: Sword theater at the road and station (need a partner), ringing the temple bell for the old woman at the road.
Also, you can murder Dojima to get ALL of your money back after you upgrade your swords. This works for merchants too. It'll cost you Samurai Points, but you can easily make them back.
Hrm. I might try that on my second play since I know my way around the place now.
Don't forget the two respawnable swords for an extra 600 per day.
YES.
Kind of like that.
So, take Bushido Blade and put it in an open world game with missions and crafting and stuff? Why don't I have this already?
Instant kill difficulty is really, really hard. You have to learn a whole different play style to even get halfway through the story.
Plus you get ninja fighting styles and weapons too, plus around eight other styles, if that doesn't sell you, nothing will.
You should totally go for it. Best Samurai game I own. It's a harsh mistress at first, but worth it.
If you break a weapon, can you get it fixed? And if so, will it be what it was beforehand? Or if you break a good sword, then you're kinda screwed if you liked it? I didn't break anything I was attached to, but I broke a few things, and I just wanted to know if I should toss them out of my storage or if I could get them restored later on.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
You shouldn't even come close to ever breaking a sword in this game though, unless it's a 2-Durability sword you picked up off some schmo.
I think you can actually, it was listed as an option at Dojima's for 2000 yen, but I haven't tried it myself.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
What ending would you guys recommend going for on hard difficulty? I think I'll be saving a lot when going for that.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
Unless you got a really good sword and some health boost, do one that doesn't require fighting one of the bigger bads. The selfless sacrifice is pretty easy to get.
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