Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
There is a blog, started long before "blog" was a word IIRC, of a black American dude who went to live in Japan and teach English. Very interesting and somewhat disturbing look into Japanese society. One part of he talked about while teach the kids is that they actively tried to grab his junk.
Anyway, entry he talks about their history books and how they barely mention WWII at all and when they do it only talks about the Atom bomb. Never Pearl Harbor and the reasons for the war.
I need to find a link to that blog. I think he eventualy moved back to America after years in Japan.
Gaijin Smash! He's still living in Japan, still blogging and is now married.
Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
It's more the idea that such a show is indicative of the fact that they don't seem to be taking what they (or even other nations) did very seriously.
for a nice summary of how japan clings to war criminals, google the yasakuni shrine and maybe something like "sino-japanese history textbook controversy"
It's more the idea that such a show is representative of the fact that they don't seem to be taking what they (or even other nations) did very seriously.
I was talking to a fellow Canadian I knew that went to Japan to teach, apparently most of those that went there learned of that site before or during their stay, it's become a must read by all, much of what was said in it are very much true from what I was told, similar stories and experiences.
I was talking to a fellow Canadian I knew that went to Japan to teach, apparently most of those that went there learned of that site before or during their stay, it's become a must read by all, much of what was said in it are very much true from what I was told, similar stories and experiences.
It's one of exactly two blogs that I follow, and one of the only ones I actually enjoy just reading old backdated entries. He doesn't write as much as he used to but when he does it's still as good as it ever was.
I really like the author's evenhandedness; he obviously likes and enjoys living in Japan, or he wouldn't have spent most of the past decade there, married a Japanese citizen and what have you. But on the other hand he doesn't try to sugarcoat the social problems and other issues that he sees.
He's also funny as hell. A little while ago in one of his entries he was discussing how he wanted to write a book based on his experiences and I really he does; I know I'd buy it.
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I was talking to a fellow Canadian I knew that went to Japan to teach, apparently most of those that went there learned of that site before or during their stay, it's become a must read by all, much of what was said in it are very much true from what I was told, similar stories and experiences.
It's one of exactly two blogs that I follow, and one of the only ones I actually enjoy just reading old backdated entries. He doesn't write as much as he used to but when he does it's still as good as it ever was.
I really like the author's evenhandedness; he obviously likes and enjoys living in Japan, or he wouldn't have spent most of the past decade there, married a Japanese citizen and what have you. But on the other hand he doesn't try to sugarcoat the social problems and other issues that he sees.
He's also funny as hell. A little while ago in one of his entries he was discussing how he wanted to write a book based on his experiences and I really he does; I know I'd buy it.
I laughed my ass off on the entry where he talked about the two things he had to import from America because he could not find any in his size in Japan. Shoes and Condoms. Punchline being that he has his mom send them.
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Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
They deny many things.
Read up about it some time if you can, it can be interesting stuff. Most countries have at least admitted to their faults even if they don't live up to them for what happened during WWII, Japan though outright entirely denies doing anything wrong. They simply can't face the fact they did some horrible things but then after WWII Japan's psyche as a nation was pretty screwed up, probably why it's the nation it is today in some part and why they attache themselves to everything that's cutesy and charming.
If you don't mind actually reading something off a computer, you can get a good idea of the crimes themselves and the future ramifications in the late Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking. Not exactly light reading, but very informative. She did receive some criticism from the US about the book, but the nature of the book means that was kind of an inevitability. Very informative otherwise, I read it back when I was living in Yokohama.
And now I'm further contributing to the inevitable descend towards historical war crimes. Awesome.
I don't suppose Denmark is in this? I'd totally play it if it were.
We didn't really do much during the war other than get occupied, but, damnit, we were being molested by the voluptuous nazi lady.
Amazing, we return to Nazi Exploitation pornography... o_O
Seriously, that's one of the stranger things I've heard today. It's like "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that extra semester in college."
We didn't really do much during the war other than get occupied, but, damnit, we were being molested by the voluptuous nazi lady.
Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
It's more the idea that such a show is indicative of the fact that they don't seem to be taking what they (or even other nations) did very seriously.
for a nice summary of how japan clings to war criminals, google the yasakuni shrine and maybe something like "sino-japanese history textbook controversy"
Yes. Japan was so proud of that shrine including war criminals that the Emperor has refused to visit it for the last 30 years, and any time the PM visits it, it causes a domestic shitstorm over separation of church and state. They fucking love that thing.
Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
It's more the idea that such a show is indicative of the fact that they don't seem to be taking what they (or even other nations) did very seriously.
for a nice summary of how japan clings to war criminals, google the yasakuni shrine and maybe something like "sino-japanese history textbook controversy"
Yes. Japan was so proud of that shrine including war criminals that the Emperor has refused to visit it for the last 30 years, and any time the PM visits it, it causes a domestic shitstorm over separation of church and state. They fucking love that thing.
It's something of a lightning rod issue in the country (everyone country has there's). I remember a year ago, maybe more, several Taiwanese veterans of the Imperial Japanese Army visited a different, but prominent, funeral shrine that was closely related to war dead (under the auspices of visiting their comrades buried in Japan, apparently), and it caused a shitstorm back in Taiwan (and probably in Japan too). They didn't have many chances to do so, since they were all quite elderly by this point.
A lot of people, understandably, hated it--especially Chinese-born younger officers, prominent intellectuals, etc. A lot of people, namely, other veterans, thought that those young whippersnappers ought to piss off, they weren't alive back then, etc. And a lot of people didn't really care.
Acknowledging self-criticism is still difficult in many countries. The fact is, it is career suicide for an American politician, of any age, to suggest that the US Armed Forces has ever done anything wrong ever (Christ, even John Kerry wasn't allowed too, and he fucking fought in the war). You just don't do it. Especially for stuff like Dresden, My Lai, rape, etc.. You just don't fucking talk about it.
It's even worse in Japan, from what I understand (though the country's ability to wage war is constitutionally limited anyway, which might effect the situation). But every so often, some right-wing nutjob kills a politician who made the fatal mistake of saying "Hey, we did some bad stuff, and perhaps we should live up to it". It's not always fatal, but it can be dangerous.
Well, I'm not too familiar with it, so I can't say much.
But I really don't think turning the countries involved in world war 2 into humans in a show with strong gay overtones = denial of war crimes.
It's more the idea that such a show is indicative of the fact that they don't seem to be taking what they (or even other nations) did very seriously.
for a nice summary of how japan clings to war criminals, google the yasakuni shrine and maybe something like "sino-japanese history textbook controversy"
Yes. Japan was so proud of that shrine including war criminals that the Emperor has refused to visit it for the last 30 years, and any time the PM visits it, it causes a domestic shitstorm over separation of church and state. They fucking love that thing.
I don't suppose Denmark is in this? I'd totally play it if it were.
We didn't really do much during the war other than get occupied, but, damnit, we were being molested by the voluptuous nazi lady.
Amazing, we return to Nazi Exploitation pornography... o_O
Seriously, that's one of the stranger things I've heard today. It's like "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that extra semester in college."
We didn't really do much during the war other than get occupied, but, damnit, we were being molested by the voluptuous nazi lady.
Denmark doesn't have much of an issue with the war at this point. I haven't been in a video rental place here in years, but when I was a kid you could rent the Ilsa stuff, and whatnot, along with just any random movie. I don't think it's porn as such, though, more of a soft core kind of thing. It was placed with the regular movies around here, anyway.
I think it's hard to stay mad at ze Germans, they have all the cheap beer.
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Is this sort of thing actually considered acceptable in Japan or is it kind of boundary-pushing?
Because if the average joe on the street thinks this sort of thing is, you know, normal, well... that's kind of disturbing.
Japan is the most racist, sexist country in the world. This is probably the mildest race-related thing I've ever seen from Japan.
This is kind of a bold claim to make. I'm not going to say it's false, because a great deal of it comes down to subjective judgment, but I would remind you there are countries where women are stoned to death on a somewhat regular basis and nations that basically ensured millions of people were considered a commodity good because of race.
I mean, the tanks are still creepy, but not surprising. This sort of thing was already done with planes, so it's not too surprising that it was done with tanks and what I guess is an aircraft carrier?
And not to attempt to justify it, but I would like to point out that the whole Nazi-fetishism thing is pretty pervasive worldwide. Take my word for it, or watch Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS (made in the U.S.A. back in the 1970s) if you don't believe me. Be prepared to watch to stab your eyes out though.
Listen, I've seen some shit that comes from Japan that would make your jaw drop. Okay, so maybe Japan isn't the most racist, sexist country in the world, but damn do they take stereotypes to heart.
their whole society is based on it, in fact.
to be an authentic japanese you are an authentic whatever role you are in. so you work your ass off being the best teacher where teacher is "the social norm that defines a teacher"
not adhering to these norms is considered negative.
they can be completely different people at home if the social norm is different for what they are at work or in another situation. almost like having different selves for each situation.
very interesting world view, pretty much the complete opposite of ours.
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Japan has little or no standards really when it comes to media. Hell, it didn't bother them to play Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault and kill Japanese people with an American soldier. I'm not sure if it kept the racial slurs either. I'm kind of surprised World at War hasn't been released there.
If we're going by that standard I'm a pretty sick bastard cause I killed a lot of my countrymen with American soldiers in videogames.
Isn't most of that content filter there though? Did World at War have the Nazi swastika present? Was it even released? Not trying to sound hostile but I'd like to know considering how much the German government cracks down on video game violence.
Yeah, the swastikas get removed in any video game but that doesn't change the fact that I'm playing an American shooting down Germans. They don't relabel the factions with some fantasy names. What I was trying to say that we don't have a problem shooting down Nazi Germans in videogames. We know that our country was the bad guys back then. I mean, look at the Indiana Jones movies. We love them.
To clear up on how violent videogames are handled here I'll explain the process:
The USK (the german ESRB basically) gives ratings for all games released here. Those ratings can be "free for all" or various age restrictions (6, 12, 16 or 18 to be precise). The USK also can deny a rating if they think the game is "too violent" (there is no exact definition for this). This happend, for example for Gears of War. If this happens, the game may still be sold to adults and advertised but it can be put on the "Index" by a government institution called the BPJS but only if it's requested by a youth welfare office, a school or a few other institutions (too lazy to look that up now).
If a game is on the index it may still be sold to adults but it may not be advertised at all. It's basically in the same category as hardcore porn now. I can still buy it and rent it, but it's in the adult section or I have to ask for it specifically.
Most of the publishers that don't get a rating by the USK (which basically is a protection from the index) will modify their games for the german market untill they do, while others (like Valve) modify it preemptively. This is why the german version of TF always shows those party mode death animations. Some publishers, like Microsoft, don't do this and just not release the game in Germany at all which is why Gears of War wasn't released here. By law they wouldn't have to do this, they just do it because releasing a game if they can't market it because it's on the index it's just not worth it for them. Mind you, I can still buy the game from amazon.co.uk or other european countries and there is nothing illegal about that.
I don't mind this system. I'm an adult, so I can buy any game I want and that's pretty much how it's always has been. Actually the law was revamped for the better a few years ago. Before this, the BPJS could just put any video game on the index it felt like putting there.
All of this, assumes that the game doesn't contain any of the things I talked about earlier (like sedition, Nazi symbols and so on). Than it might actually be forbidden as in "giving it to anyone is a crime". I don't remember the last time this happend.
Now, what you read on news sites about "German government cracking down on games" is a whole nother story. Whenever some nutjob shoots up a school (which sadly happend a few month ago here) the mainstream media, church and politicans need to find something to show to the public and say: "This is what caused the problem. The nutjob did X before shooting up the school, so we're going to ban X. Be happy!" and the public will say "Thank you politican, you saved us. We're going to vote for you!".
Gaming doesn't really have a lobby here, so it's just the natural victim for this. Mind you, nothing really ever comes from this. They will talk a lot about it until the general public forgot about the incidient and no actual laws will have been passed.
I wish I could say it stops there. Let me introduce you to a game Japanese kids like to play called "Kancho." It's not as much a 'game' as it is kids clasping their hands together, sticking out their first fingers, and shoving them up your butt. I'm really not joking.
I wish I could say it stops there. Let me introduce you to a game Japanese kids like to play called "Kancho." It's not as much a 'game' as it is kids clasping their hands together, sticking out their first fingers, and shoving them up your butt. I'm really not joking.
I don't get what the big deal over this game is... I mean, it's like judging the whole western gaming industry by the standards of Carmageddon(I know that some politicians do that, but seriously screw them).
Live and let live, I say. Never having been in Japan, nor having that much curiosity about visiting the place, I imagine that for them there are plenty of things on western culture that makes them go "what the eff", frequently.
So I guess you guys haven't heard of Strike Witches?
Haha. Guessing not.
Really guys this is nothing compared to the shit Ive seen from Japan. If anything its too amazing to pass up. Come on. Id buy it if it were in America but sadly no. I was toying with the idea of buying a japanese 360 so I could buy those random games they have but havent yet....I may have to do so soon.
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Erotic computer games Like Life and Monogokoro, Monomusume both feature home appliances as girls. These appliances include washing machines, alarm clocks, blackboard erasers, pillows, first aid boxes, cell phones, and even post boxes, among others. The very nature of such games, however, puts the main characters in unusual situations when the sex scene happens — such as essentially "having sex with the washing machine".
I wish I could say it stops there. Let me introduce you to a game Japanese kids like to play called "Kancho." It's not as much a 'game' as it is kids clasping their hands together, sticking out their first fingers, and shoving them up your butt. I'm really not joking.
what the fuuuuuuu
If you keep reading Gaijin Smash you'll find out that the first two years of his life in Japan were basically dedicated to him coming up with novel ways to avoid this sort of thing (not just the "hands up the ass" but also just blatantly trying to grab his dick). It's extremely surreal.
So I guess you guys haven't heard of Strike Witches?
DarkPrimus, please, do NOT do this.
Everyone, for your and your sanity's sake, do NOT Google search this.
...oh God, now you're all gonna Google search it, aren't you?!
That's not nearly as bad as that one manga I once saw online where these girls had their arms, legs, and tongue replaced with this infinite poop generator and used it to fly through the air and kill aliens. I'm not even making this shit up, I don't think I could.
Erotic computer games Like Life and Monogokoro, Monomusume both feature home appliances as girls. These appliances include washing machines, alarm clocks, blackboard erasers, pillows, first aid boxes, cell phones, and even post boxes, among others. The very nature of such games, however, puts the main characters in unusual situations when the sex scene happens — such as essentially "having sex with the washing machine".
That's not the weirdest.
I think the weirdest that I've heard of is a guy who's gotten a harem of girls who transformed from soda cans.
I'll play this under the condition that they make the American Plane-Girl a buxom lass in a cowboy hat, straddling a massive atomic bomb Dr Strangelove style.
Well Japan? The ball is in your court.
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What's sad is that this was seemingly made by the Dai Senraku Exceed people, which is actually a realistic military sim.
I'll play this under the condition that they make the American Plane-Girl a buxom lass in a cowboy hat, straddling a massive atomic bomb Dr Strangelove style.
I don't get what the big deal over this game is... I mean, it's like judging the whole western gaming industry by the standards of Carmageddon(I know that some politicians do that, but seriously screw them).
Live and let live, I say. Never having been in Japan, nor having that much curiosity about visiting the place, I imagine that for them there are plenty of things on western culture that makes them go "what the eff", frequently.
I have this sense that the social implications of the GTA series are at least as bizarre to a lot of Japanese as anthropomorphized WWII tank-girls are to a lot of westerners. And that the tank-girls are as "meh, what's so wrong?" to them as GTA is to us.
I don't get what the big deal over this game is... I mean, it's like judging the whole western gaming industry by the standards of Carmageddon(I know that some politicians do that, but seriously screw them).
Live and let live, I say. Never having been in Japan, nor having that much curiosity about visiting the place, I imagine that for them there are plenty of things on western culture that makes them go "what the eff", frequently.
I have this sense that the social implications of the GTA series are at least as bizarre to a lot of Japanese as anthropomorphized WWII tank-girls are to a lot of westerners. And that the tank-girls are as "meh, what's so wrong?" to them as GTA is to us.
I don't think that's the case, and judging from the locked GAF thread about this particular game, it gets a lot more explicit than what this thread's OP contains.
It's not like these sorts of games don't carry a stigma with them in Japan anyway. If you say that you play "PC games" in Japan (their PC market is absolutely dominated by this sort of stuff), you have to clarify yourself if you don't want to be labeled as one of those people.
Ironically, this is the only Sakura Taisen game that will be likely released in the US. Nevermind that the movie, TV series, and an assload of OVAs were all brought over no problem by a half-dozen different companies.
Carmageddon is awesome. Who hasn't had the desire to run over people in cars while destroying other cars? No one, that's who.
Show of hands: who has ever wanted to do a bunch of anthropomorphic loli weapons and bomb Pearl Harbor?
Carmaggedon is something that all Americans, if asked about, should blatantly deny to the point of threatening violence, because in a country in which tens of thousands of people die every year from car accidents, road rage, and general automotive violence (in 2006, it was +90,000, if you include incidents relating to alcohol), a game where you basically commit automotive genocide in the pursuit of cash so that you can more efficient commit said genocide is not only relevant, but absolutely abhorrent.
That might work in other countries, where vehicular manslaughter or vehicular homicide are rare, unusual occurrences, whether due to a lack of automobiles or just much more stringently enforced road laws (Japan, South Korea, Belarus). Here, it is absolutely morally repugnant.
I know I would. And I fucking loved the game. Sequel was awesome too.
I'm pretty sure this particular game series isn't actually considered NSFW though. They're more like PG as far as they're concerned and it's really just fanservice (no actual sex scenes).
I'm pretty sure these games aren't actually consdiered NSFW though. They're more like PG as far as they're concerned and it's really just fanservice (no actual sex scenes).
Not really a lot of fanservice either. At least in the first four. Mostly everyone going around looking pretty, talking, singing, robot punching, etc. It's not "cheesecake" as it were anyway.
I'm talking about this game, not Sakura Taisen, sorry if I was unclear.
From what I remember seeing about other games in the series, the fanservice just comes in the form of girls having more tattered clothing the more damage they take, without actually revealing anything.
I mean, you'd probably see more flesh if you went to a beach.
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Hah! Thats it. Thanks man, I know what I am going to be doing for the rest of the night.
for a nice summary of how japan clings to war criminals, google the yasakuni shrine and maybe something like "sino-japanese history textbook controversy"
Okay, I can see that.
I'll be sure to look up on the other things too.
That site is infamous.
I was talking to a fellow Canadian I knew that went to Japan to teach, apparently most of those that went there learned of that site before or during their stay, it's become a must read by all, much of what was said in it are very much true from what I was told, similar stories and experiences.
I really like the author's evenhandedness; he obviously likes and enjoys living in Japan, or he wouldn't have spent most of the past decade there, married a Japanese citizen and what have you. But on the other hand he doesn't try to sugarcoat the social problems and other issues that he sees.
He's also funny as hell. A little while ago in one of his entries he was discussing how he wanted to write a book based on his experiences and I really he does; I know I'd buy it.
I laughed my ass off on the entry where he talked about the two things he had to import from America because he could not find any in his size in Japan. Shoes and Condoms. Punchline being that he has his mom send them.
If you don't mind actually reading something off a computer, you can get a good idea of the crimes themselves and the future ramifications in the late Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking. Not exactly light reading, but very informative. She did receive some criticism from the US about the book, but the nature of the book means that was kind of an inevitability. Very informative otherwise, I read it back when I was living in Yokohama.
And now I'm further contributing to the inevitable descend towards historical war crimes. Awesome.
We didn't really do much during the war other than get occupied, but, damnit, we were being molested by the voluptuous nazi lady.
Amazing, we return to Nazi Exploitation pornography... o_O
Seriously, that's one of the stranger things I've heard today. It's like "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that extra semester in college."
Yes. Japan was so proud of that shrine including war criminals that the Emperor has refused to visit it for the last 30 years, and any time the PM visits it, it causes a domestic shitstorm over separation of church and state. They fucking love that thing.
It's something of a lightning rod issue in the country (everyone country has there's). I remember a year ago, maybe more, several Taiwanese veterans of the Imperial Japanese Army visited a different, but prominent, funeral shrine that was closely related to war dead (under the auspices of visiting their comrades buried in Japan, apparently), and it caused a shitstorm back in Taiwan (and probably in Japan too). They didn't have many chances to do so, since they were all quite elderly by this point.
A lot of people, understandably, hated it--especially Chinese-born younger officers, prominent intellectuals, etc. A lot of people, namely, other veterans, thought that those young whippersnappers ought to piss off, they weren't alive back then, etc. And a lot of people didn't really care.
Acknowledging self-criticism is still difficult in many countries. The fact is, it is career suicide for an American politician, of any age, to suggest that the US Armed Forces has ever done anything wrong ever (Christ, even John Kerry wasn't allowed too, and he fucking fought in the war). You just don't do it. Especially for stuff like Dresden, My Lai, rape, etc.. You just don't fucking talk about it.
It's even worse in Japan, from what I understand (though the country's ability to wage war is constitutionally limited anyway, which might effect the situation). But every so often, some right-wing nutjob kills a politician who made the fatal mistake of saying "Hey, we did some bad stuff, and perhaps we should live up to it". It's not always fatal, but it can be dangerous.
Controversies surrounding Yasukuni Shrine
Good source of information on many things with links to others.
What a strange thread this has been.
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Clearly she's a German Tiger tank:P
Thanks for getting that stupid 'Five-Dollar Foot Long' commercial back into my head.
Cats and underage child exploitation are the new pastimes in Japan.
Perhaps it's Rommel, the Desert Fox.
Denmark doesn't have much of an issue with the war at this point. I haven't been in a video rental place here in years, but when I was a kid you could rent the Ilsa stuff, and whatnot, along with just any random movie. I don't think it's porn as such, though, more of a soft core kind of thing. It was placed with the regular movies around here, anyway.
I think it's hard to stay mad at ze Germans, they have all the cheap beer.
their whole society is based on it, in fact.
to be an authentic japanese you are an authentic whatever role you are in. so you work your ass off being the best teacher where teacher is "the social norm that defines a teacher"
not adhering to these norms is considered negative.
they can be completely different people at home if the social norm is different for what they are at work or in another situation. almost like having different selves for each situation.
very interesting world view, pretty much the complete opposite of ours.
Yeah, the swastikas get removed in any video game but that doesn't change the fact that I'm playing an American shooting down Germans. They don't relabel the factions with some fantasy names. What I was trying to say that we don't have a problem shooting down Nazi Germans in videogames. We know that our country was the bad guys back then. I mean, look at the Indiana Jones movies. We love them.
To clear up on how violent videogames are handled here I'll explain the process:
The USK (the german ESRB basically) gives ratings for all games released here. Those ratings can be "free for all" or various age restrictions (6, 12, 16 or 18 to be precise). The USK also can deny a rating if they think the game is "too violent" (there is no exact definition for this). This happend, for example for Gears of War. If this happens, the game may still be sold to adults and advertised but it can be put on the "Index" by a government institution called the BPJS but only if it's requested by a youth welfare office, a school or a few other institutions (too lazy to look that up now).
If a game is on the index it may still be sold to adults but it may not be advertised at all. It's basically in the same category as hardcore porn now. I can still buy it and rent it, but it's in the adult section or I have to ask for it specifically.
Most of the publishers that don't get a rating by the USK (which basically is a protection from the index) will modify their games for the german market untill they do, while others (like Valve) modify it preemptively. This is why the german version of TF always shows those party mode death animations. Some publishers, like Microsoft, don't do this and just not release the game in Germany at all which is why Gears of War wasn't released here. By law they wouldn't have to do this, they just do it because releasing a game if they can't market it because it's on the index it's just not worth it for them. Mind you, I can still buy the game from amazon.co.uk or other european countries and there is nothing illegal about that.
I don't mind this system. I'm an adult, so I can buy any game I want and that's pretty much how it's always has been. Actually the law was revamped for the better a few years ago. Before this, the BPJS could just put any video game on the index it felt like putting there.
All of this, assumes that the game doesn't contain any of the things I talked about earlier (like sedition, Nazi symbols and so on). Than it might actually be forbidden as in "giving it to anyone is a crime". I don't remember the last time this happend.
Now, what you read on news sites about "German government cracking down on games" is a whole nother story. Whenever some nutjob shoots up a school (which sadly happend a few month ago here) the mainstream media, church and politicans need to find something to show to the public and say: "This is what caused the problem. The nutjob did X before shooting up the school, so we're going to ban X. Be happy!" and the public will say "Thank you politican, you saved us. We're going to vote for you!".
Gaming doesn't really have a lobby here, so it's just the natural victim for this. Mind you, nothing really ever comes from this. They will talk a lot about it until the general public forgot about the incidient and no actual laws will have been passed.
what the fuuuuuuu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfVNDNu1Lfc
I don't get what the big deal over this game is... I mean, it's like judging the whole western gaming industry by the standards of Carmageddon(I know that some politicians do that, but seriously screw them).
Live and let live, I say. Never having been in Japan, nor having that much curiosity about visiting the place, I imagine that for them there are plenty of things on western culture that makes them go "what the eff", frequently.
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Haha. Guessing not.
Really guys this is nothing compared to the shit Ive seen from Japan. If anything its too amazing to pass up. Come on. Id buy it if it were in America but sadly no. I was toying with the idea of buying a japanese 360 so I could buy those random games they have but havent yet....I may have to do so soon.
DarkPrimus, please, do NOT do this.
Everyone, for your and your sanity's sake, do NOT Google search this.
...oh God, now you're all gonna Google search it, aren't you?!
I still find the idea of turning world war 2 ace pilots into mechanized lolis to be hilarious though.
The weirdest? Appliances.
EDIT:
If you keep reading Gaijin Smash you'll find out that the first two years of his life in Japan were basically dedicated to him coming up with novel ways to avoid this sort of thing (not just the "hands up the ass" but also just blatantly trying to grab his dick). It's extremely surreal.
That's not nearly as bad as that one manga I once saw online where these girls had their arms, legs, and tongue replaced with this infinite poop generator and used it to fly through the air and kill aliens. I'm not even making this shit up, I don't think I could.
That's not the weirdest.
I think the weirdest that I've heard of is a guy who's gotten a harem of girls who transformed from soda cans.
Well Japan? The ball is in your court.
I guess they had to go where the money is.
I have this sense that the social implications of the GTA series are at least as bizarre to a lot of Japanese as anthropomorphized WWII tank-girls are to a lot of westerners. And that the tank-girls are as "meh, what's so wrong?" to them as GTA is to us.
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Show of hands: who has ever wanted to do a bunch of anthropomorphic loli weapons and bomb Pearl Harbor?
I don't think that's the case, and judging from the locked GAF thread about this particular game, it gets a lot more explicit than what this thread's OP contains.
It's not like these sorts of games don't carry a stigma with them in Japan anyway. If you say that you play "PC games" in Japan (their PC market is absolutely dominated by this sort of stuff), you have to clarify yourself if you don't want to be labeled as one of those people.
Ironically, this is the only Sakura Taisen game that will be likely released in the US. Nevermind that the movie, TV series, and an assload of OVAs were all brought over no problem by a half-dozen different companies.
Carmaggedon is something that all Americans, if asked about, should blatantly deny to the point of threatening violence, because in a country in which tens of thousands of people die every year from car accidents, road rage, and general automotive violence (in 2006, it was +90,000, if you include incidents relating to alcohol), a game where you basically commit automotive genocide in the pursuit of cash so that you can more efficient commit said genocide is not only relevant, but absolutely abhorrent.
That might work in other countries, where vehicular manslaughter or vehicular homicide are rare, unusual occurrences, whether due to a lack of automobiles or just much more stringently enforced road laws (Japan, South Korea, Belarus). Here, it is absolutely morally repugnant.
I know I would. And I fucking loved the game. Sequel was awesome too.
Seriously, shit is fucked up. No excuse about it.
Maybe for you prudish puritans.
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Not really a lot of fanservice either. At least in the first four. Mostly everyone going around looking pretty, talking, singing, robot punching, etc. It's not "cheesecake" as it were anyway.
From what I remember seeing about other games in the series, the fanservice just comes in the form of girls having more tattered clothing the more damage they take, without actually revealing anything.
I mean, you'd probably see more flesh if you went to a beach.
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