So I keep running out of stuff. I've been trying to be like my pacifist brother, since they apparently frown up JC killing terrorists, but I always run out of stuff like tranquilizer darts, and find nothing useful in my inventory but a knife. I have so much money, but I can't figure out where to buy anything? Is there a set place to get stuff, or is it just always random people selling random stuff?
Hmm, well, if you want to play pacafist (eg, knocking people out), your best bet for equipment is
- Mini crossbow with tranquiliser darts. Try to mod it for better range and accuracy if you can
- Riot Prod
- Police baton
- Extra melee damage aug (optional)
- Trained in melee weapons and pistols
The safest way to knock out enemies is sneak up behind them with the riot prod and zap them in the lower back. If they don't go down, either zap them again or activate the strength aug and smack them with the police baton. Only tranq them if hey aren't next to/near an alarm and you have some place to hide while the effect kicks in. If you stick to melee/riot prodding enemies you should be fine for ammo across the board.
I tried not to kill the UNATCO workers for the most part. But it's such a pain in the ass when you try to save Paul, I just went Matrix on them and the MIBs.
I just hide in the secret weapons room :P
Also, I once got fragged during that fight and they thought it fit to stitch me back together before throwing me back in jail
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anoffdayTo be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it.Registered Userregular
For the spoiler? I know it's an old game but the thread was started by someone who is playing it for the first time.
No, that wasn't to you. That was to the guy who did use the spoiler.
I'm one of those people who is playing it for the first time.
At the end of the game, Paul is revealed to be your gay lover.
That's why everyone wants to save him.
No dude I'm pretty sure Paul is an atheist and that is why we try to save him. Don't you remember Tracer Tong's "I wirr save your immortar sorr" speech?
They really should of made Deus Ex 2 a prequel where you play as Paul, starting out at UNATCO like JC then going though his missions up to the end of Deus Ex, meeting JC every so often. There seems to be a lot of time where he is doing things in Deus Ex that are only vagluey explained which could be made into a bunch of new missions that explain things. Examples
-The triads say that Paul earned their trust by working for them, lots of ideas for missions there. Coule be early game missions since he is sent to Hong Kong to assasinate Tracer Tong.
-The failed mission on the raid on the warehouse in Hells Kitchen.
-You meet him in the subway after the battery park/castle clinton mission, and if you check his phone, it's from someone (I assume Harley Filben, can't remember) asking him to meet him at the subway.
-Aparrentley Paul had some buisness to take care of in the MJ12 facility when you find him before you escape.
You get the idea, plus, if memory serves, his augs are never fully specified so the skills and aug system could pretty much be the same. Plus it would be cool to see how he and Gunter and Anna worked together.
Problem with that is, you kind of already know where he ends up through the first game.
But you don't know how he got there, plus, how many people have replayed Deus Ex multiple times knowing exactly how the story will go? I don't think that will be a problem.
I'm finally getting into the meat of The Nameless Mod, maybe 5 hours in. There seem to be two rival factions and I joined one of them and now have to go back and infiltrate the enemy compound again.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
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Iceman2343The sun went down with practiced bravado.Bel Air, MarylandRegistered Userregular
I'm finally getting into the meat of The Nameless Mod, maybe 5 hours in. There seem to be two rival factions and I joined one of them and now have to go back and infiltrate the enemy compound again.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
Yeah I have found TNM to engross me almost as much as the original game. I haven't been playing it lately as they are releasing a new patch shortly and I wanted to wait for that so I don't have to back track as much.
I'm finally getting into the meat of The Nameless Mod, maybe 5 hours in. There seem to be two rival factions and I joined one of them and now have to go back and infiltrate the enemy compound again.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
I think I'm where you're at. And I have no idea how to proceed with no lockpicking or electronics skill and only just enough to get through one poorly-secured door.
I'm finally getting into the meat of The Nameless Mod, maybe 5 hours in. There seem to be two rival factions and I joined one of them and now have to go back and infiltrate the enemy compound again.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
I think I'm where you're at. And I have no idea how to proceed with no lockpicking or electronics skill and only just enough to get through one poorly-secured door.
I'm finally getting into the meat of The Nameless Mod, maybe 5 hours in. There seem to be two rival factions and I joined one of them and now have to go back and infiltrate the enemy compound again.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
I think I'm where you're at. And I have no idea how to proceed with no lockpicking or electronics skill and only just enough to get through one poorly-secured door.
I'm not quite inside WC level 2 but I'm glad to hear there are at least options for circumventing things. I was surprised there was no easy way to get SD out of WC for PDX without knocking people out (at least from what I saw when I went later to the spoiler section of the forums). You'd think they would've coded more opportunities for a variety of solutions.
So, Im working on a strait up stealth playthrough, attempting not to fight or get seen at all and Im already running into some issues very early in, maybe someone can offer some suggestions? Ive got a bad feeling Deus Ex was terribly designed for stealth without any sort of combat at all.
The hostage situation in the subway has me stuck. Trying to sneak through the vents and reach the subway keeps triggering having the hostages talk to me instead of lettting me on it, and the conversation attracts the NSF's attention. Ive got a bad feeling you cant clear this area without doing something about the NSF.
If you are able to talk to them behind the pillar on the very left of the station, you can avoid being seen. Then just open the door and run through and it will count as a rescue, IIRC.
So, Im working on a strait up stealth playthrough, attempting not to fight or get seen at all and Im already running into some issues very early in, maybe someone can offer some suggestions? Ive got a bad feeling Deus Ex was terribly designed for stealth without any sort of combat at all.
The hostage situation in the subway has me stuck. Trying to sneak through the vents and reach the subway keeps triggering having the hostages talk to me instead of lettting me on it, and the conversation attracts the NSF's attention. Ive got a bad feeling you cant clear this area without doing something about the NSF.
How about you "sneak" into the laser grid? That would probably solve things. In a matter of speaking.
You can always try causing a distraction. Shoot/break something at the other side of the room with your stealth pistol (maybe an air vent grate) and when the enemy go to investigate, talk to a hostage, spam the spacebar to end the convo then open the subway car's doors. Maybe EMP grenades make a loud noise, you could always try hurling one of those across the room to grab their attention. Hmm, also, it could also be quite possible to carry a couple of metal crates into the vents with you and do a solid snake, eg, hide behind them when the guards walk trowards you. You could even place metal crates in the air vent hatches in the celing, creep into the room via a lower hatch and shoot the celing hatch causing the metal crate to drop and cause a large clang/distraction
I think it's pretty amusing that JC denton is a kickass future manmachine who can leap over walls, have sonar vision and cloak, but it's still fucking hard for him to throw a basketball in a hoop
You can always try causing a distraction. Shoot/break something at the other side of the room with your stealth pistol (maybe an air vent grate) and when the enemy go to investigate, talk to a hostage, spam the spacebar to end the convo then open the subway car's doors. Maybe EMP grenades make a loud noise, you could always try hurling one of those across the room to grab their attention. Hmm, also, it could also be quite possible to carry a couple of metal crates into the vents with you and do a solid snake, eg, hide behind them when the guards walk trowards you. You could even place metal crates in the air vent hatches in the celing, creep into the room via a lower hatch and shoot the celing hatch causing the metal crate to drop and cause a large clang/distraction
Right idea, although
I think they can track grenades back to their source if they see you throwing them. A crossbow bolt into a dark corner should get their attention long enough for you to get the hostages on the train and speed in there with no problems, provided you don't make more noise in the process.
So, Im working on a strait up stealth playthrough, attempting not to fight or get seen at all and Im already running into some issues very early in, maybe someone can offer some suggestions? Ive got a bad feeling Deus Ex was terribly designed for stealth without any sort of combat at all.
The hostage situation in the subway has me stuck. Trying to sneak through the vents and reach the subway keeps triggering having the hostages talk to me instead of lettting me on it, and the conversation attracts the NSF's attention. Ive got a bad feeling you cant clear this area without doing something about the NSF.
How about you "sneak" into the laser grid? That would probably solve things. In a matter of speaking.
Sneaking + cattle prod always worked for me, not sure if that counts as not fighting though...
So, what are everyone's favorite augs? Personally I always go for level 4 fast run/high jump and, extra strength (unless I'm going pure melee) and level 4 sonar imaging. The latter is essential for sneaking up and around enemies if you can see them through walls. I don't see much of a point of using silent run and the targeting augs since for the former you can just sneak fast by crouching and activating the run aug and for the latter if you have a modified gun so it's at 100% accuracy and a high skill in that weapon category headshots aren't really a problem. Targeting adds stability and accuracy, but I had a completley stable, 100% accurate modded sniper rifle with advanced training in rifles before I got access to the targeting aug.
Regarding augs, I highly reccomend the shifter mod. If you find an aug canister with the same aug you have installed, you can use said canister and a medbot to upgrade that installed aug. Plus the augs are tweaked to work much better, eg, combining extra strength and extra melee power and adding a new aug to replace the empty slot with the ability to release an emp blast from your hands when you strike a bot/camera/turret
I found my brother's disc and started playing Deus Ex a few days ago, but now I'm having the game freeze when
you tell Max Chen that Chow stole the sword etc, and then mechs semi-invade the club
I can never get far out of that office/room before the game freezes. The music keeps playing, but all I can do is end the process from task manager. Playing from the most recent save in safe mode worked fine. Should I just go into another area (that requires a loading screen) in safe mode, save, and play from there?
This game is awesome and I really want to finish it.
Edit: I am using this dx10 render, and this little thingy too.
I found my brother's disc and started playing Deus Ex a few days ago, but now I'm having the game freeze when
you tell Max Chen that Chow stole the sword etc, and then mechs semi-invade the club
I can never get far out of that office/room before the game freezes. The music keeps playing, but all I can do is end the process from task manager. Playing from the most recent save in safe mode worked fine. Should I just go into another area (that requires a loading screen) in safe mode, save, and play from there?
This game is awesome and I really want to finish it.
Edit: I am using this dx10 render, and this little thingy too.
Huh, interesting. In my playthrough that's the onlt point it froze for me to in the exact same spot. And yeah, i'd reccommend just playing in safe mode, get past that bit and save when you get back to the market
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You can buy stuff from the dudes in the UNATCO building right where you get off the docks.
You can also use the prod and the baton for non lethal takedowns.
You will also find that no one really agrees with Paul's philosophy, but whatever way you want to do things is entirely up to you.
Hmm, well, if you want to play pacafist (eg, knocking people out), your best bet for equipment is
- Mini crossbow with tranquiliser darts. Try to mod it for better range and accuracy if you can
- Riot Prod
- Police baton
- Extra melee damage aug (optional)
- Trained in melee weapons and pistols
The safest way to knock out enemies is sneak up behind them with the riot prod and zap them in the lower back. If they don't go down, either zap them again or activate the strength aug and smack them with the police baton. Only tranq them if hey aren't next to/near an alarm and you have some place to hide while the effect kicks in. If you stick to melee/riot prodding enemies you should be fine for ammo across the board.
If I can save you I will, but if I have no chance of survival without you dying, imma kill you.
But, I just stopped my 4th playthrough because I hate
Also, I once got fragged during that fight and they thought it fit to stitch me back together before throwing me back in jail
Are you kidding me right now?
For the spoiler? I know it's an old game but the thread was started by someone who is playing it for the first time.
I'm one of those people who is playing it for the first time.
That's why everyone wants to save him.
No dude I'm pretty sure Paul is an atheist and that is why we try to save him. Don't you remember Tracer Tong's "I wirr save your immortar sorr" speech?
-The failed mission on the raid on the warehouse in Hells Kitchen.
-You meet him in the subway after the battery park/castle clinton mission, and if you check his phone, it's from someone (I assume Harley Filben, can't remember) asking him to meet him at the subway.
-Aparrentley Paul had some buisness to take care of in the MJ12 facility when you find him before you escape.
You get the idea, plus, if memory serves, his augs are never fully specified so the skills and aug system could pretty much be the same. Plus it would be cool to see how he and Gunter and Anna worked together.
But you don't know how he got there, plus, how many people have replayed Deus Ex multiple times knowing exactly how the story will go? I don't think that will be a problem.
Although I am a total nerd I sometimes tense up at obnoxious geekery, but despite the silly premise of this mod I have been totally pleased with it. A few really bad in-jokes but you can skip past them, and I've definitely laughed a few times.
I think the only problems I have are normal Deus Ex engine complaints -- shitty models and tiny HUD text at high res. It's making me look forward to playing the original again sometime later.
I think I'm where you're at. And I have no idea how to proceed with no lockpicking or electronics skill and only just enough to get through one poorly-secured door.
Dude, explosives.
Well that just means you aren't using ENOUGH explosives. In real life at least. All the problems in Deus Ex can be solved by explosves and hacking.
Or cheat. Bloody gibs for all!
How about you "sneak" into the laser grid? That would probably solve things. In a matter of speaking.
Right idea, although
Sneaking + cattle prod always worked for me, not sure if that counts as not fighting though...
Regarding augs, I highly reccomend the shifter mod. If you find an aug canister with the same aug you have installed, you can use said canister and a medbot to upgrade that installed aug. Plus the augs are tweaked to work much better, eg, combining extra strength and extra melee power and adding a new aug to replace the empty slot with the ability to release an emp blast from your hands when you strike a bot/camera/turret
That and the DTS.
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
I can never get far out of that office/room before the game freezes. The music keeps playing, but all I can do is end the process from task manager. Playing from the most recent save in safe mode worked fine. Should I just go into another area (that requires a loading screen) in safe mode, save, and play from there?
This game is awesome and I really want to finish it.
Edit: I am using this dx10 render, and this little thingy too.
Huh, interesting. In my playthrough that's the onlt point it froze for me to in the exact same spot. And yeah, i'd reccommend just playing in safe mode, get past that bit and save when you get back to the market