Regeneration is what lets you try potentially stupid things and live.
Ballistic protection fulfills a similar role in facilitating stupid things.
Same with speed enhancement.
Aggressive defense system is fun when you upgrade it to a level where it detonates rockets just as they're launched by an enemy. Nothing like killing a commando by exploding his own rocket.
I really only used speed enhancement, combat strength, and regenerate. Vision enhancement is pretty nice, but by the time you get it and max it, the game is almost over.
Also just finished it again. This game never ceases to amaze me. I found a couple of paths that I had never taken before and I have beaten this game like twenty times.
Luckily, playing through that part in safe mode worked, I'm a bit past that now (
in the sub station thingy.
For some reason though, now, since that part with the freezing issue, saving (regular and quicksave-style) takes significantly longer. Before it took about .1 seconds after hitting the save button, now it seems t take 5 or so. Nitpicking, but I wonder why it got worse.
My favorite augs, so far, are regeneration (aforementioned getting away with idiocy) and also the one that lets you send out a drone that can detonate itself causing an EMP blast (forget the name). And the light!
Too lazy to look for a quote earlier in the thread, but whoever said that the Dragon's Tooth sword uh...changes one's play style, was right. I was super-stealthy hacker and silent-takedown guy, and now instead of running and hiding or reloading, etc when I'm caught, I just whip it out and go all rambo. Stupid nanotechnology.
Alright so I've never played Deus Ex, but due to this thread I finally broke down and purchased it on Steam.
Is the Steam the latest version, or do I have to patch it (it's downloading now so I haven't been able to open the game and see). I'm wondering if I'll need to apply patches before I install Shifter, since it sounds like a mod I probably should just have even from my first playthrough of the game.
Do people actually use suits and vests? If I don't use them right then and there, I toss 'em.
I don't even use the ones that are obviousluy meant to be used immediately. Deus Ex never managed to remove my fear of using any one use item that I picked up from RPGs.
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edited August 2009
The Steam version is always the latest (official) version.
Do people actually use suits and vests? If I don't use them right then and there, I toss 'em.
I don't even use the ones that are obviousluy meant to be used immediately. Deus Ex never managed to remove my fear of using any one use item that I picked up from RPGs.
I don't care if the LAW takes up four inventory spaces and I'm carrying a ton of LAMs and my assault rifle shoots grenades and the Dragon's Tooth cuts through anything anyway, I'm saving the launcher because I might need it later.
You just wait. There's gonna be, like, a hundred guys in the next room or more bots than I have grenades for or something, and THEN who's gonna look prepared?
I've pretty much decided I'm gonna go ahead and use Shifter, just because of all the things it adds to the game that it really seems silly not to have (the unlocked content, plus streamlining the abilities and what-not).
I played through the training mission, and man this game is dark. I had to first turn down the brightness on the menu screen because the text was illegible against the background (they were essentially the same color and I had to click around, guessing). But turning down the brightness to make text readable makes the rest of the game pretty murky.
Maybe if I play this in the dark it'll balance out, which I might try later on. :P
Do people actually use suits and vests? If I don't use them right then and there, I toss 'em.
I don't even use the ones that are obviousluy meant to be used immediately. Deus Ex never managed to remove my fear of using any one use item that I picked up from RPGs.
I don't care if the LAW takes up four inventory spaces and I'm carrying a ton of LAMs and my assault rifle shoots grenades and the Dragon's Tooth cuts through anything anyway, I'm saving the launcher because I might need it later.
You just wait. There's gonna be, like, a hundred guys in the next room or more bots than I have grenades for or something, and THEN who's gonna look prepared?
Do people actually use suits and vests? If I don't use them right then and there, I toss 'em.
I don't even use the ones that are obviousluy meant to be used immediately. Deus Ex never managed to remove my fear of using any one use item that I picked up from RPGs.
I don't care if the LAW takes up four inventory spaces and I'm carrying a ton of LAMs and my assault rifle shoots grenades and the Dragon's Tooth cuts through anything anyway, I'm saving the launcher because I might need it later.
You just wait. There's gonna be, like, a hundred guys in the next room or more bots than I have grenades for or something, and THEN who's gonna look prepared?
RPGs have ruined me.
See, I was more rational in my approach. I knew that I'd be able to scout out danger ahead of time and sneak away to prepare appropriately. So that LAW would wait on the ground in an area I had cleared out. Along with a kevlar vest I found earlier. And a rebreather. And the thermeoptic camo. And the hazmat suit. And the assault shotgun. And the gas grenades. And the EMP grenades. And the throwing knives. And the 3 chocolate bars.
I do use the ballistic vests/camo vests until I feel comfortable not having them. I usually play realistic mode and only save when I hit a loading screen (they are my checkpoints), so if I don't have an aug to protect me when I suddenley come face to face with an enemy, I'll put on the ballistic armour/camo vest and make a break for it/whip out the shotgun and fight it out. Same with rebreathers and hazmat suits. I'll always try and have a slot free for one of those items (rebreathers are VERY handy but you usually find them near the places you really need them anyway) until I get an aug that replaces them.
I'm thinking if I ever did a run without the GEP gun in my inventory I may have room for all of those items for once.
Oh shits, I just realised I could try a run on realistic without using augs or skill points (outside the first few you get allocated at the start of the game and the light aug).
Oh shits, I just realised I could try a run on realistic without using augs or skill points (outside the first few you get allocated at the start of the game and the light aug).
This sounds like so much fun! Wait... not really. If you want to punish yourself try doing something weird like no melee weapons or no crouching except to jump or something.
Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.
I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
Yeah, WPs are less common, but without firing one I picked up enough to max out before returning to NYC. They take out a whole room of guys, so you really don't need that many. Hell, you pretty much don't need the flamethrower if you're lugging these around.
Of course, then shifter adds an alt-fire to the flamthrower that lobs a big chunk of napalm which then explodes...
Excuse me, I think I'm about to start another big guns playthrough.
I only remember getting one or two WP rockets in the entire game. I think the only time I ever used one was that part were MIB's and troops are rushing down a tunnel at you, I think it's in Area 51. God I need to play this game again, it's been so long I'm forgetting shit >.<
Every single runthrough I ALWAYS forget to save a certian person. It's a character in Hell's kitchen whom you can aqquire some wares from.
Apparentley you can save Smuggler from the raid on Hell's kitchen, after you meet with the guy in the burnt out Osgood's and Son's building you can go tell Smuggler to clear out, apparentley. I've never done this but I've heard of it, but I only remember I should of done this when Jock calls you at the submarine base to tell you Smuggler probably didn't make it.
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Yeah, I usually do that every playthrough. One of my more embarrassing moments came on my first time, near the end of the game with
Jock. The funny thing is, it's not like I didn't *see* the dead mechanic, but I was playing a ruthless direct-approach type and by that point I'd been seeing and making dead people all over the damn place, so the body just failed to register with me. I just went "Oh hey, dead body. Check and see if it's got anything. No? Okay, moving on then."
Yeah, I usually do that every playthrough. One of my more embarrassing moments came on my first time, near the end of the game with
Jock. The funny thing is, it's not like I didn't *see* the dead mechanic, but I was playing a ruthless direct-approach type and by that point I'd been seeing and making dead people all over the damn place, so the body just failed to register with me. I just went "Oh hey, dead body. Check and see if it's got anything. No? Okay, moving on then."
Boy was my face red the second time.
the voice acting is HILARIOUS for the other mechanic. It's like
MJ12 has a (we must assume) reasonably skilled agent infiltrating the Illuminati and he sounds like someone's choking him. it's so comic-book villain-y.
Can someone explain to me why the regular sword can cut/break open a locker (and presumably some other containers) while the Dragon's Tooth cannot?
Makes no sense. I'm always standing in bathrooms or whatever for 100 seconds debating whether or not to waste my lockpicks on these things since I dropped the sword.
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edited August 2009
I. Uh. Hmm.
You have to do a certain amount of damage in one strike to break open containers. But it seems improbable to me that the Dragon's Tooth does less damage than a regular sword.
Perhaps you had combat strength on and didn't realize it.
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Regeneration is what lets you try potentially stupid things and live.
Ballistic protection fulfills a similar role in facilitating stupid things.
Same with speed enhancement.
Aggressive defense system is fun when you upgrade it to a level where it detonates rockets just as they're launched by an enemy. Nothing like killing a commando by exploding his own rocket.
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Also just finished it again. This game never ceases to amaze me. I found a couple of paths that I had never taken before and I have beaten this game like twenty times.
For some reason though, now, since that part with the freezing issue, saving (regular and quicksave-style) takes significantly longer. Before it took about .1 seconds after hitting the save button, now it seems t take 5 or so. Nitpicking, but I wonder why it got worse.
My favorite augs, so far, are regeneration (aforementioned getting away with idiocy) and also the one that lets you send out a drone that can detonate itself causing an EMP blast (forget the name). And the light!
Too lazy to look for a quote earlier in the thread, but whoever said that the Dragon's Tooth sword uh...changes one's play style, was right. I was super-stealthy hacker and silent-takedown guy, and now instead of running and hiding or reloading, etc when I'm caught, I just whip it out and go all rambo. Stupid nanotechnology.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Is the Steam the latest version, or do I have to patch it (it's downloading now so I haven't been able to open the game and see). I'm wondering if I'll need to apply patches before I install Shifter, since it sounds like a mod I probably should just have even from my first playthrough of the game.
I don't even use the ones that are obviousluy meant to be used immediately. Deus Ex never managed to remove my fear of using any one use item that I picked up from RPGs.
So, yes.
I don't care if the LAW takes up four inventory spaces and I'm carrying a ton of LAMs and my assault rifle shoots grenades and the Dragon's Tooth cuts through anything anyway, I'm saving the launcher because I might need it later.
You just wait. There's gonna be, like, a hundred guys in the next room or more bots than I have grenades for or something, and THEN who's gonna look prepared?
RPGs have ruined me.
I've pretty much decided I'm gonna go ahead and use Shifter, just because of all the things it adds to the game that it really seems silly not to have (the unlocked content, plus streamlining the abilities and what-not).
I played through the training mission, and man this game is dark. I had to first turn down the brightness on the menu screen because the text was illegible against the background (they were essentially the same color and I had to click around, guessing). But turning down the brightness to make text readable makes the rest of the game pretty murky.
Maybe if I play this in the dark it'll balance out, which I might try later on. :P
And even then you won't use that LAW.
See, I was more rational in my approach. I knew that I'd be able to scout out danger ahead of time and sneak away to prepare appropriately. So that LAW would wait on the ground in an area I had cleared out. Along with a kevlar vest I found earlier. And a rebreather. And the thermeoptic camo. And the hazmat suit. And the assault shotgun. And the gas grenades. And the EMP grenades. And the throwing knives. And the 3 chocolate bars.
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That and flare darts for the crossbow.
You only get one of those?
Huh
No wonder I never used it
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I'm thinking if I ever did a run without the GEP gun in my inventory I may have room for all of those items for once.
Oh shits, I just realised I could try a run on realistic without using augs or skill points (outside the first few you get allocated at the start of the game and the light aug).
This sounds like so much fun! Wait... not really. If you want to punish yourself try doing something weird like no melee weapons or no crouching except to jump or something.
I save those because it's not like they take up space, takes nothing to pick em up and they SUCK.
I don't think I've ever used a flare round for the crossbow. If it isn't a Tranq round i'm not interested.
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Yeah, the flare darts disappointed me the second I fired one at a dude and he didn't catch on fire.
That's what I thought they'd do too.
They didn't and earned my unending scorn!
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I think Shifter fixes that.
Yes it does
Goddamnit. Now I have to fucking restart my game.
/me goes off to dl shifter...
Me too.
You definitely get more than one. I recall using two or three in Paris to kill MJ12 and still having some left.
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I just found some of those in the robot bunker outside the labs quite late in the game
Of course, then shifter adds an alt-fire to the flamthrower that lobs a big chunk of napalm which then explodes...
Excuse me, I think I'm about to start another big guns playthrough.
Boy was my face red the second time.
the voice acting is HILARIOUS for the other mechanic. It's like
*Steps on a rat*
*JC does that little 'skippy'/slipping thing*
*Plunges off the legde straight into sewer water*
Come to think of it, JC must smell RANK a few hours into the game.
Skills:
- Swimming
- Environmental Training
- Medicine
- Weapons: Heavy
Augs:
Subdermal 1: EMP Shield
Subdermal 2: Radar Transparency
Cranium: Spy Drone
Arms: Combat Strength
Legs: Run Silent (MAX)
Optics: Vision Enhancement
Chest #1: Environmental Resistance (MAX)
Chest #2: Energy Shield (MAX)
Chest #3: Synthetic Heart
Whaddaya guys think?
Makes no sense. I'm always standing in bathrooms or whatever for 100 seconds debating whether or not to waste my lockpicks on these things since I dropped the sword.
You have to do a certain amount of damage in one strike to break open containers. But it seems improbable to me that the Dragon's Tooth does less damage than a regular sword.
Perhaps you had combat strength on and didn't realize it.