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[WoW] [Chat] The Horde Employs Cylon Paladins!
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Wow Insider for aforementioned Yellow Journalism, and some decent articles.
looking at those models i really have one thing to say
holy shit blizzard, you are lazy
also do we have any models for the weapons?
I...am not sure I'd called the articles decent.
Like the Q&A classes?
I am not looking forward to the rogue one
most of those just don't really seem to fit the classes at all, in my opinion
the plate looks fine i guess but some of the gear just does not seem to look right
and is it just me or does the spellcaster chest/shoulders/bracers look like plate
But yeah, I don't expect the rogue Q&A to be any more informative than the previous classes' have been.
Also, lol @ the backpacks on the T9 shoulders for rogue/druid.
Someone with grammar like yours is in no position to go around calling people lazy and dumb.
They don't.
Everyone seemed to expect a rigorous discussion of every little issue they have the class. They did not say they were giving that to you, why did you think thats what you'd get, and why are you mad that you didn't get what they said they weren't giving you?
This is a cool idea, but I like being able to glance at someone and get a gauge for what they have, especially in PvP ("Oh shits that guys in full Season 6, I'm fucked!"). I don't believe its as cut and dry as 'Everyone wants it but Blizzard just says No.'
Also, in the grand scheme, it would basically hand you a full gear sets worth of inventory which is nice, but they're not big on freebies. Its also a lot of work to implement this, when there is still so much to be done.
typing on forums isn't something i get paid for, and the grammar isn't completely terrible anyway. it would sound better if i removed "in essence" but it was key to my point
i type like i speak, and spoken that sounds fine, I apologize if i don't treat the penny arcade forums as some medium for my master thesis
also
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/july/tier9_alliance_10116_2.jpg
seriously, hunter and shaman
seriously
helmet, bracers, chest, shoulders
that doesn't look the same to you?
seriously?
Pulling the grammar card? Really? Grow up.
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edit: fun to level and at 80 too, so none of this shaman bullcrap.
Pulling the "Grow up" card? Really? How original.
I've always been of the mind that each class needs its own dev team, with its own respective community manager. It makes more sense to have people who are responsible for the class design being the ones who actually step out and say "here is the decision we are making and here is why we're making it". That's not to say that they should cave to consumer demands or anthing, just have the same group of people familiar with that one class's changes and design. Rather than having one guy be the voicebox of your whole class dev team, which has got to be rough on his sanity at this point, what with having to keep everything he's said about every class in every discussion from contradicting itself.
Edit: Wow, that moved fast. Was responding to ESAF's post.
I'd say Hunter. I dislike Mages and Priests with all the drinking they do (until they get Evo). Warlocks are kinda like Hunters but they aren't my cup of tea.
Actually you don't type like you speak, when speaking there would be pauses and inflection which are indicated by things like punctuation and capitalization. Commas? Yeah they actually mean something, they aren't just a spacer.
I agree that the direction of the Q&A may not have been ideal, but realistically the kind of rigor people wanted would take more time than the team probably can afford to dedicate.
I liked them, but I don't think it was the best idea for the community.
This comic comes to mind...
i'm sorry, making, in essence, 4 models...
i thought to do this but this is just too many commas and taking them out made it more readable, in my opinion
you can disagree, of course, but it's my casual typing style, i use commas for pauses, i don't capitalize the first word of every sentence, I use enter instead of periods for subject breaks, it's really not the end of the world
holy shit, look at all those commas, everyone panic
guaranteed if i use a semicolon incorrectly you'll all be on my ass about it, so why even bother?
and yes, that one comma would be the only place i would pause while speaking that sentence
8 models. 8. Two less than normal. And 20 textures. 10 more than normal.
Come on now, the shaman color scheme is visual diarrhea. I am very seriously considering a side transfer to get away from it, but in the end I'll probably just not stop wearing my t8 until icecrown
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My girlfriend does play and has (way) more gold than me but she doesn't share it. She's like Scrooge McDuck, always hording her precious precious coins.
if you don't count leggings, these sets look incredibly similar:
1. death knight, paladin, warrior
2. druid, rogue
3. shaman, hunter
4. warlock, priest, mage
if you made this a black and white picture and didn't count the leggings i don't think i'd be able to spot one difference except for the emblem changes on deathknight, pally, and warrior
For some reason, and maybe i'm delusional, I recall warlock shoulders being completely different from priest shoulders, and pally helmet being completely different from deathknight helmet
if i'm wrong, i'll admit it, but that's what i'm looking at
tier 8, notice that every class looks distinguished:
http://www.wowcryptlords.com/WoW-News/tier-8-model-for-all-classes.html
the armor on its own, for the most part, looks fine in my opinion, i just don't like so many classes looking so similar
There would have to be restrictions, certainly, if this were ever to be implemented. For example, the class armor restrictions would have to be in place (ie. no cloth wearers using plate for their appearance slots), but moreover than that, you could take it further and say 'only like armor types can be used in each appearance slot' (that is, only cloth armor can be used to cover the appearance of a cloth slot, leather for leather, etc.) so you don't have the issue of someone in full plate looking like they're wearing robes.
But yeah, it could be challenging to implement, but enough MMOs have pulled it off successfully that I'm sure Blizzard could find a way to do it right.
There are four different armor classes. There are two factions.
2 x 4 = 8
*edit
Besides, its not even the fucking point. Even if there WAS only four models, it would be the height of stupidity to call them lazy. You have no clue the amount of work that is going to making games for you. Theres only so much time and theres only so many people. This isn't a major expansion, its a free content patch. We only expect that we get this content because they have made a habit of giving us stuff for which we havn't given them extra beyond the monthly fee that we are happy paying now before the patch. Blizzard is making four (known) games right now, it would not be uncommon or at all wrong or lazy for them to move people from working on WoW all the time. In fact it would be prudent.
but see you're looking at raw numbers, and you're saying that because the number of models is slightly less, that because the horde druid looks different from the alliance druid, that that's ok. Almost same number of models.
i am saying that i don't care if horde gear is similar to alliance gear, ultimately i don't run raids with horde, all I will be seeing is 4 models in this new tier. In past times, running raids or running around town, you'd see 10 models, that's where the difference lies for me 4v10. In the past, each class had its own model, now classes are sharing models. I don't like this sharing. Does that make sense? I like to see shoulders and be able to say "oh, that's a warlock" or "oh, that's a warrior". Not only that, but this is tier gear, not PVP gear where you'd be fighting horde. Raiding is where this is significant, I think having 10 models for 10 classes make each of those models more valuable. Having gear that doesn't distinguish you cheapens it in my eyes.
I'll take away the claim of lazy, and simply claim that it looks dumb for so many classes to look the same
people spend most of their time around their own faction, I think, so most people are going to see just 4 models, and rarely see the others
having a model for each class distinguished classes
i don't really know how else to say it
i am trying to reach a level of understanding here
but anyway, that monthly fee basically goes towards the new content, new content isn't charity
guaranteed that if blizzard stopped making expansions/content, you would see a significant decrease in the top level of players
this new content is what drives people to stay in the game and pay that monthly fee
Blizzard aren't 'lazy', in the sense that they're probably not sitting in the office beating off and sipping mai-tais. They're a busy group of people who, if the rumors are to be believed, are probably asshole-deep in designing the next expansion.
On the other hand, it is extremely obvious that they didn't put the level of effort into these armor sets that they did into the previous eight tiers. Whether or not that is acceptable is entirely based on personal opinion. You're either cool with that or you're not.
Personally, I'm not wild about it, but I'll deal. I just hope we see some more impressive designs for Icecrown.
I don't think it's "extremely obvious". Most of them look good. I know, opinions opinions and all that.
Not saying it's a catastrophic thing or anything either. It is what it is.
This is tier gear that you get from raids. When you are in raids you only see your faction. In the past you saw 10 models, and could distinguish between classes in raids by looking at their gear. Now there will be 4 models in raids. To me, this cheapens the gear. Were this PVP it would make more sense to me, but it isn't PVP.
I think the gear itself looks fine, but every clothy wearing very similar looking gear just doesn't sit well with me
and new content isn't charity as you make it sound, it keeps people paying that monthly fee, and were people not looking forward to new content they may not pay it
Now, some would argue that the color differentiations and, in some cases, robes/skirts rather than leggings, makes that distinction. That is a matter of some debate.
But in any case, they aren't changing it, so we'll have to deal.
I think it'll be easy enough to differentiate between, say, the two mail wearing classes because one of them will be shooting at shit with a gun, and the other will either be beating crap up close and personal or casting spells.
Its kind of like how the arena sets work, the two factions started to share armor because of where it was coming from (the goblins running the arena) and not their factions as it had been pre-TBC.
I was coming in to post something along these lines, but you said it better than I could.
But seriously, while the class's actions can serve as a distinction, the complaint is leveled mostly at the aesthetics of the armor itself.
Druids: "Sweet, a beak!"
Rogues: "Fuck, a beak!"