HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2009
I just need some quick clarification: The MMO Champion post says that these are "the" two new races in the expansion. It's said so matter-of-factly that it makes me wonder, did Blizzard say at any time two more races would be coming?
I just need some quick clarification: The MMO Champion post says that these are "the" two new races in the expansion. It's said so matter-of-factly that it makes me wonder, did Blizzard say at any time two more races would be coming?
I just need some quick clarification: The MMO Champion post says that these are "the" two new races in the expansion. It's said so matter-of-factly that it makes me wonder, did Blizzard say at any time two more races would be coming?
How accurate has MMO Champion been with their predictions in the past? And, no, AFAIK Blizzard has said nothing about new races coming down the pipe.
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edited July 2009
I just may save up the money for epic flying after 3.2 is out. Dailies will be much less tiresome with a 150% flyer.
I just need some quick clarification: The MMO Champion post says that these are "the" two new races in the expansion. It's said so matter-of-factly that it makes me wonder, did Blizzard say at any time two more races would be coming?
How accurate has MMO Champion been with their predictions in the past? And, no, AFAIK Blizzard has said nothing about new races coming down the pipe.
Apparently he's "never been wrong about something he's posted on the main site" but that's really simply him giving himself credibility. I can't really back up the statement one way or another.
It's a third party site with no affiliation whatsoever with Blizzard so take it with a rather large grain of salt.
WoW will be so expansive for new players with another expansion.
$20+$30+$40+$50(New Expansion) = $140
They already have a battlechest out with vanilla and BC for like 30 bucks or less in major retail stores.
Next expansion will probably see a large price cut on wrath, if not adding it into the 30$ battlechest. They can give the fucking game away if they want (as EQ did every once in awhile to get new customers). In fact I'm surprised that WoW hasn't given away the basic game to entice new customers (and set up existing customers with a 2nd account) because they rake it in off the monthly price.
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WoW will be so expansive for new players with another expansion.
$20+$30+$40+$50(New Expansion) = $140
Blizzard normally reduces the previous games to $20, so it'll be about $100 to start playing with Cataclysm. That is a tad pricey, but a battle chest with Vanilla/TBC/Wrath for $30 is possible.
Worgen joining the Alliance doesn't muck up much. They can easily renounce their loyalty to Gilneas (or maybe they have already performed a coup) and claim themselves victim to Arugal or whomever's plotting. Is Varian racist? No, he's just a horribly written character, so fuck his opinion. It's also interesting to see how it could be another thing that pisses off the Forsaken (Alliance accepted the Worgen but not the Forsaken?). Really, given Varian, it'd be a shrewd plan to gain some territory in Lordaeron rather than any real sympathy.
There's also the possibility that Worgen and Goblins start off at a higher level. Gilneas and some portion of Kezan could start them at 55 and just ship them off to Outland as opposed to trying to fine a clean way to port them to other parts of Azeroth.
Chances are we'll get some lore explanation about the human Worgen having a worsening condition, and thus why they are Worgen all the time as opposed to night. This might explain their decision to come back to the Alliance, as they've no doubt heard about the many races of the Alliance and their possible knowledge of a cure. Their racial might be a very temporary return to human form, which would serve as a polymorph and stun break (determination or something, I dunno).
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OtakuD00DCan I hit the exploding rocks?San DiegoRegistered Userregular
edited July 2009
Varian and Rhonin are both completely badly written characters. One's an anti-Thrall for the sake of being an angry anti-Thrall, while the other's a Gary Stu.
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There's also the possibility that Worgen and Goblins start off at a higher level. Gilneas and some portion of Kezan could start them at 55 and just ship them off to Outland as opposed to trying to fine a clean way to port them to other parts of Azeroth.
Well it's not like you'd have to think horrible hard to find ways to get them to other parts of the old world from their starting area. I mean, Gilneas is peninsula just west of the Wetlands, all they need is a boat. Or they could just, y'know, walk from the Wall at Silverpine to Hillsbrad. And the goblins, they've got zeppelins and probably submarines and teleporters and all that. It's rocket science, man.
I'm more interested in seeing what causes goblins, who have been strongly neutral for so long now, to join up with the horde again. Worgen can be explained away by any number of reasons since Gilneas has remained completely unknown all this time.
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I'm more interested in seeing what causes goblins, who have been strongly neutral for so long now, to join up with the horde again.
Well, they have long ties with the Horde, so much that the zeppelins are Horde exclusive. Also, I don't think the goblins in general are terribly thrilled about how Alliance kidnapped that one goblin and forced him to build them a zeppelin at the Westguard Keep.
It'll probably end up being just one house/clan/whatever, and the rest will continue to be neutral for gameplay reasons.
Vanilla WoW's already free, you can download the trial, then pay for your subscription and continue playing. Probably the same applies to TBC, but I can't say for sure.
Vanilla WoW's already free, you can download the trial, then pay for your subscription and continue playing. Probably the same applies to TBC, but I can't say for sure.
You sure? RAFers still need to pay $20 to upgrade to a full account, though that does give them a free month.
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
Vanilla WoW's already free, you can download the trial, then pay for your subscription and continue playing. Probably the same applies to TBC, but I can't say for sure.
You sure? RAFers still need to pay $20 to upgrade to a full account, though that does give them a free month.
Yeah, I think he's confusing the low low price of the original game, which comes with a free month, for a month's subscription.
And TBC is most certainly not free.
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EvilBadmanDO NOT TRUST THIS MANRegistered Userregular
edited July 2009
Worgen would probably have a Close Quarters Combat (Fist/Dagger) +Expertise Racial, as long as we're hypothesizing.
Rationalization is no current races have those weapon proficiencies, and when you think of Worgen tearing your face off they're not likely wielding a big ass sword.
Rationalization is no current races have those weapon proficiencies, and when you think of Worgen tearing your face off they're not likely wielding a big ass sword.
They will if it's a Worgen Warrior.
Weapon and profession racials are stupid. Give some universally useful crap instead.
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Rationalization is no current races have those weapon proficiencies, and when you think of Worgen tearing your face off they're not likely wielding a big ass sword.
They will if it's a Worgen Warrior.
Weapon and profession racials are stupid. Give some universally useful crap instead.
I agree that they're stupid, but not having to gem so much for expertise as a melee is why humans and orcs are popular.
I'm more interested in seeing what causes goblins, who have been strongly neutral for so long now, to join up with the horde again. Worgen can be explained away by any number of reasons since Gilneas has remained completely unknown all this time.
To be fair all the goblin interactions we've had have been with the Steamwheedle Cartel. Since the Cartel is, yknow, a cartel and everything, it explains their neutrality. That's not the entire goblin race, though.
I'm not sure what it's like Alliance side but goblins the horde having zeppelins and whatnot seems that there are at least quite a few that are loyal to the Horde. Plus there are even some horde questgivers in Outland that are goblins.
I'm more interested in seeing what causes goblins, who have been strongly neutral for so long now, to join up with the horde again. Worgen can be explained away by any number of reasons since Gilneas has remained completely unknown all this time.
To be fair all the goblin interactions we've had have been with the Steamwheedle Cartel. Since the Cartel is, yknow, a cartel and everything, it explains their neutrality. That's not the entire goblin race, though.
I'm not sure what it's like Alliance side but goblins the horde having zeppelins and whatnot seems that there are at least quite a few that are loyal to the Horde. Plus there are even some horde questgivers in Outland that are goblins.
The only hints we have is that Steamwheedle was allied with the Horde during the second war and most goblins wanted neutrality. Doesn't mean some new Trade prince can't have radical ideas.
To play devil's advocate, the goblin involvement in terms of Horde compared to Alliance makes sense. The Horde already had close ties to the goblins, and already saw what an investment they would be when it came to weaponry and building infrastructure for the new Horde.
For the Alliance, these guys spent an entire war trying to blow them up or provide intel for their enemy. Not to mention one race of the Alliance is a bitter rival with the goblins. It'd be like if Osama bin Laden just stopped fighting us and took a neutral position between the US and terrorists. Very...weird. So when it came down to it, it made more sense to leave most of the infrastructure to the gnomes and dwarves rather than to a former enemy that became neutral bot for any moral reason, but simply to make cash.
Rationalization is no current races have those weapon proficiencies, and when you think of Worgen tearing your face off they're not likely wielding a big ass sword.
They will if it's a Worgen Warrior.
Weapon and profession racials are stupid. Give some universally useful crap instead.
I agree that they're stupid, but not having to gem so much for expertise as a melee is why humans and orcs are popular.
Seriously had I known that Tauren's stam bonus got nerfed to hell and back I'd have rolled orc.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited July 2009
Whatever new races they add to Horde/Alliance you'd hope that they would be able to be paladin/shaman respectively in order to provide greater class coverage.
Basically I'm hoping for a Horde Worgen Paladin.
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Whatever new races they add to Horde/Alliance you'd hope that they would be able to be paladin/shaman respectively in order to provide greater class coverage.
Whatever new races they add to Horde/Alliance you'd hope that they would be able to be paladin/shaman respectively in order to provide greater class coverage.
Basically I'm hoping for a Horde Worgen Paladin.
Since they broke their six class limit with Death Knights, I could see Blizzard thinking up of a sect of Undead Paladins.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
Whatever new races they add to Horde/Alliance you'd hope that they would be able to be paladin/shaman respectively in order to provide greater class coverage.
Basically I'm hoping for a Horde Worgen Paladin.
Since they broke their six class limit with Death Knights, I could see Blizzard thinking up of a sect of Undead Paladins.
Undead paladins are something I wouldn't mind being patched in. If the Forsaken were capable of being priests, why not paladins? And even if you had a reason then, the blood elves joining forces with 'em provides them a means of training their own.
I wonder what kind of goofy name that would bring about for them, since you have the Death Guard and Death Stalkers (essentially warriors and rogues, respectively). The Death... uh... I suck at this.
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On what grounds would they do this?
But that's not going to happen, obviously. Too much work for too little payoff.
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It's just an attention grabbing headline.
How accurate has MMO Champion been with their predictions in the past? And, no, AFAIK Blizzard has said nothing about new races coming down the pipe.
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$20+$30+$40+$50(New Expansion) = $140
Apparently he's "never been wrong about something he's posted on the main site" but that's really simply him giving himself credibility. I can't really back up the statement one way or another.
It's a third party site with no affiliation whatsoever with Blizzard so take it with a rather large grain of salt.
Not to mention I'm sure a new Battlechest with WoW+BC+WotLK will surface sometime around the expansion's release.
They already have a battlechest out with vanilla and BC for like 30 bucks or less in major retail stores.
Next expansion will probably see a large price cut on wrath, if not adding it into the 30$ battlechest. They can give the fucking game away if they want (as EQ did every once in awhile to get new customers). In fact I'm surprised that WoW hasn't given away the basic game to entice new customers (and set up existing customers with a 2nd account) because they rake it in off the monthly price.
Worgen joining the Alliance doesn't muck up much. They can easily renounce their loyalty to Gilneas (or maybe they have already performed a coup) and claim themselves victim to Arugal or whomever's plotting. Is Varian racist? No, he's just a horribly written character, so fuck his opinion. It's also interesting to see how it could be another thing that pisses off the Forsaken (Alliance accepted the Worgen but not the Forsaken?). Really, given Varian, it'd be a shrewd plan to gain some territory in Lordaeron rather than any real sympathy.
There's also the possibility that Worgen and Goblins start off at a higher level. Gilneas and some portion of Kezan could start them at 55 and just ship them off to Outland as opposed to trying to fine a clean way to port them to other parts of Azeroth.
Chances are we'll get some lore explanation about the human Worgen having a worsening condition, and thus why they are Worgen all the time as opposed to night. This might explain their decision to come back to the Alliance, as they've no doubt heard about the many races of the Alliance and their possible knowledge of a cure. Their racial might be a very temporary return to human form, which would serve as a polymorph and stun break (determination or something, I dunno).
Well it's not like you'd have to think horrible hard to find ways to get them to other parts of the old world from their starting area. I mean, Gilneas is peninsula just west of the Wetlands, all they need is a boat. Or they could just, y'know, walk from the Wall at Silverpine to Hillsbrad. And the goblins, they've got zeppelins and probably submarines and teleporters and all that. It's rocket science, man.
i wouldnt bother until 77.
Well, they have long ties with the Horde, so much that the zeppelins are Horde exclusive. Also, I don't think the goblins in general are terribly thrilled about how Alliance kidnapped that one goblin and forced him to build them a zeppelin at the Westguard Keep.
It'll probably end up being just one house/clan/whatever, and the rest will continue to be neutral for gameplay reasons.
Yeah, I think he's confusing the low low price of the original game, which comes with a free month, for a month's subscription.
And TBC is most certainly not free.
IE: Blood Elves and Mana Tap.
Rationalization is no current races have those weapon proficiencies, and when you think of Worgen tearing your face off they're not likely wielding a big ass sword.
They will if it's a Worgen Warrior.
Weapon and profession racials are stupid. Give some universally useful crap instead.
I agree that they're stupid, but not having to gem so much for expertise as a melee is why humans and orcs are popular.
To be fair all the goblin interactions we've had have been with the Steamwheedle Cartel. Since the Cartel is, yknow, a cartel and everything, it explains their neutrality. That's not the entire goblin race, though.
I'm not sure what it's like Alliance side but goblins the horde having zeppelins and whatnot seems that there are at least quite a few that are loyal to the Horde. Plus there are even some horde questgivers in Outland that are goblins.
To play devil's advocate, the goblin involvement in terms of Horde compared to Alliance makes sense. The Horde already had close ties to the goblins, and already saw what an investment they would be when it came to weaponry and building infrastructure for the new Horde.
For the Alliance, these guys spent an entire war trying to blow them up or provide intel for their enemy. Not to mention one race of the Alliance is a bitter rival with the goblins. It'd be like if Osama bin Laden just stopped fighting us and took a neutral position between the US and terrorists. Very...weird. So when it came down to it, it made more sense to leave most of the infrastructure to the gnomes and dwarves rather than to a former enemy that became neutral bot for any moral reason, but simply to make cash.
Seriously had I known that Tauren's stam bonus got nerfed to hell and back I'd have rolled orc.
Basically I'm hoping for a Horde Worgen Paladin.
Considering that the Defias have been harassing Northshire Abbey for years now...
Undead paladins are something I wouldn't mind being patched in. If the Forsaken were capable of being priests, why not paladins? And even if you had a reason then, the blood elves joining forces with 'em provides them a means of training their own.
I wonder what kind of goofy name that would bring about for them, since you have the Death Guard and Death Stalkers (essentially warriors and rogues, respectively). The Death... uh... I suck at this.
Uh, you mean the warrior?
Edit - http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=11036
Only undead Argent Dawn member I know of at Light's Hope. No mana bar.