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I don't care as long as they're not stealing accounts, defrauding people, spamming, or griefing.
In fact, I think a legitimate market for gold and items is healthy for an MMO, and the efforts to squelch such a legitimate market (leaving only illegitimate markets) are deleterious in the long run.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
We've had threads before on "virtual property" and its values and conversion into real world as well as the relative worth of virtual items and possible legal implications of their ownership. Frankly, IP threads are like well ordered gardens compared to what those ones were....
Personally, I have no problem with the translation of virtual into actual goods, but the legal systems and courts seem to do.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
edited July 2009
If the game is originally designed with RMT (Real Money Transactions), then the players usually don't care too much, but if it isn't (most of the classic MMOs), it is often viewed as cheating.
It's also highly obnoxious because the gold farmers tend to spam their websites in chat channels all day long in horribly broken English. One of the more fun examples is a site whose spam line is something like "Give your friend a pleasantly suprise [sic] with powful [sic-larious] of powerleveling".
Also, a lot of the time, the way the in-game money is earned isn't just one guy at his computer grinding away all day, but a glut of "bot" characters following a program and killing the same things 'en mass in order to get said money. Basically, since it's ussually a large group of bots, they tend to get in the way.
Anyways, this is just in my experience playing Mabinogi. I can deal with the fighting bot, the ad bots drive me insane though.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
Also, a lot of the time, the way the in-game money is earned isn't just one guy at his computer grinding away all day, but a glut of "bot" characters following a program and killing the same things 'en mass in order to get said money. Basically, since it's ussually a large group of bots, they tend to get in the way.
In Everquest (the game I've played most), they actually use the player-market system by setting up scripting programs to buy low and sell high (which is fine if you're not using a script to do it), which ends up affecting the overall economy, inflating prices, and basically making it very difficult to earn enough money on your own... which drives people to their sites.
They (SOE) have, within the last year or two, started basically flooding the game with items you don't need to purchase to try and make platinum a less-needed commodity... but that has also had adverse effects on the game.
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In fact, I think a legitimate market for gold and items is healthy for an MMO, and the efforts to squelch such a legitimate market (leaving only illegitimate markets) are deleterious in the long run.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Personally, I have no problem with the translation of virtual into actual goods, but the legal systems and courts seem to do.
It's also highly obnoxious because the gold farmers tend to spam their websites in chat channels all day long in horribly broken English. One of the more fun examples is a site whose spam line is something like "Give your friend a pleasantly suprise [sic] with powful [sic-larious] of powerleveling".
BUY GOLD AT OUR SITE! $$$$$$ @ GOLD . COM!
because their stupid add bots
BUY GOLD AT OUR SITE! $$$$$$ @ GOLD . COM!
Make it really annoying
BUY GOLD AT OUR SITE! $$$$$$ @ GOLD . COM!
To have a conversation with people
BUY GOLD AT OUR SITE! $$$$$$ @ GOLD . COM!
In town.
BUY GOLD AT OUR SITE! $$$$$$ @ GOLD . COM!
Also, a lot of the time, the way the in-game money is earned isn't just one guy at his computer grinding away all day, but a glut of "bot" characters following a program and killing the same things 'en mass in order to get said money. Basically, since it's ussually a large group of bots, they tend to get in the way.
Anyways, this is just in my experience playing Mabinogi. I can deal with the fighting bot, the ad bots drive me insane though.
In Everquest (the game I've played most), they actually use the player-market system by setting up scripting programs to buy low and sell high (which is fine if you're not using a script to do it), which ends up affecting the overall economy, inflating prices, and basically making it very difficult to earn enough money on your own... which drives people to their sites.
They (SOE) have, within the last year or two, started basically flooding the game with items you don't need to purchase to try and make platinum a less-needed commodity... but that has also had adverse effects on the game.