So general question on the comment above about "If Sprint has good service in your area..." How do I determine this without divining the truth from Sprint's coverage maps? I'm in Rochester, MN, and it looks like I've got relatively good coverage, as long as I don't go out in to the boonies (I never do). I've got Verizon now which covers pretty much everything in the area..
Also, my fiance definitely wants a phone with a physical keyboard, but not a slider. We're going to stop by a Sprint store and try a Hero to see if she'd like the virtual keyboard (I want to talk her in to getting a Evo when they come out, I know I'll probably be getting one... ow my checkbook). She's thinking of the Blackberry Tour or Curve or whatever it is... how bad of an idea is that? How does that compare to like the HTC Snap or whatever it's called?
Bit of a connundrum on my phone plan. Currently on a T-mobile my faves family plan with a ridiculous amount of minutes and the unlimited text add-on.
we don't come close to the amount of minutes we have so i was thinking of switching to a different plan to save some cash. current options are Even more and even more plus. both are identical in minutes and options but the regular even more plan is 10 bucks more but you retain teh ability to get upgrade phone prices. with teh plus plan you can upgrade whenever but you basically pay retail prices and the contract is month to month. the other you need to go into a 2 year agreement
as of may we have a year left on our contracts. i think on our current plan we can get upgrades to smartphones at 1 year.
so the guy at the tmobile store said if we switch now we lose that upgrade option at 1 year.
so far have been happy with tmobile so far. I do get a discount through work on ATT and verizon, ATT is 15% off everything as is verizon but i don't know if the verizon counts for family plans.
on ATT if you have 2 iphones do you have to pay the full price for web/data for both or is there a family option?
anyone know if Verizon emplyee discounts can be applied to family plans?
the talk-text-web option is roughly the same price as we pay now for talk and text but it says it is only for qualified smartphones. We both have the original Samsung Behold. could we switch to T-T-W plan now and then upgrade our phones to full smart phones through Amazon's wireless thing they have now?
i hope this is coherent. it is wrinkling my brain trying to think it out.
basically looking to save some cash but if we can get more for what we pay now or less it would be ok.
With Verizon discounts apply only to the primary voice plan on familyshare lines and data features. So if you have 20% off plan service and 20% off data service with a 2000 minute familyshare ($90 for the first line, $9.99 for up to four other lines) and two of those phones have the $29.99 data service it will give you 20% off the primary voice plan of $90 and 20% off the 2x $29.99 smartphone data packs giving you a total of ~$30 off. Keep in mind also that individual texting packages do not get any discounting applied, but if it's part of the plan as unlimited messaging (the "talk and text" plans) then it will be discounted through that primary plan discount.
I need a new phone. I have a craptastic Verizon flip-phone that I got three years ago. I want to stick with Verizon, but I'm not sure what to get. I was looking at the Droid, but it seems a little big and heavy to me. The Droid Eris seemed cool but it's stuck on Android 1.5 and is being EOL'd. I don't think I can pony up $200 for the Incredible. WHAT DO I DO?!
wait until you can afford an incredible, then get that
the up-front cost is well worth it given you'll be spending thousands on service over the next two years
This. When you're talking about a smartphone, the amount you pay for service absolutely dwarfs any up-front difference in the phone price. It's already $150 on Amazon; if that's an insurmountable hurdle, 2 years of voice + data is going to be rough, to say the least.
I need a new phone. I have a craptastic Verizon flip-phone that I got three years ago. I want to stick with Verizon, but I'm not sure what to get. I was looking at the Droid, but it seems a little big and heavy to me. The Droid Eris seemed cool but it's stuck on Android 1.5 and is being EOL'd. I don't think I can pony up $200 for the Incredible. WHAT DO I DO?!
Palm Pre Plus?
I don't know about the Pre Plus. WebOS is the best mobile OS out there, IMO. It's as open as Android, while having iPhone-level polish. It's a pleasure to use.
Unfortunately, the hardware . . . not so much. It's a bit underpowered, and the slider doesn't seem to hold up real well over time. At least the non-plus Sprint version. It has some minor hardware defects, too.
I'm kind of torn. I'll have an upgrade to use in a few months with Sprint, but I don't know what I want, now. I'm sure I want to get rid of my Pre, just because it's falling apart. But sweet jebus is Android ugly and unintuitive. That's giving me some pause with the HTC Evo or whatever it is that's coming out this summer.
You'd think with all Google's money, they'd hire someone with some UI design experience. Because Android's got some awesome functionality, but clearly, the guy designing the Android UI hates both users and interfaces.
o_O I personally really like the Android UI. It could use some better explanation, sure, but it works just fine.
It's goddamn hideous. It looks like Windows 3.1 on a phone!
/barf
Admittedly, that's a really fugly phone too, so that might be adding to it.
Frankly, the Evo looks like the first piece of Android hardware I'd actually use. Except maybe the Nexus One, but I'm not shelling out $500 for a phone, nor will I suffer through T-mobile's network.
We'll see... I love some of the functionality Android's got, but everything about it just screams "LINUX IN HERE!" The icons, the layout, the inconsistent UI, the way it all flows together... everything about its UI is second-rate, just like the OS/kernel it's based on.
o_O I personally really like the Android UI. It could use some better explanation, sure, but it works just fine.
It's goddamn hideous. It looks like Windows 3.1 on a phone!
/barf
Admittedly, that's a really fugly phone too, so that might be adding to it.
Frankly, the Evo looks like the first piece of Android hardware I'd actually use. Except maybe the Nexus One, but I'm not shelling out $500 for a phone, nor will I suffer through T-mobile's network.
We'll see... I love some of the functionality Android's got, but everything about it just screams "LINUX IN HERE!" The icons, the layout, the inconsistent UI, the way it all flows together... everything about its UI is second-rate, just like the OS/kernel it's based on.
My HTC Desire looks a lot prettier than that thing. Both the actual phone and the OS.
My HTC Desire looks a lot prettier than that thing. Both the actual phone and the OS.
That is a really ugly phone.
That actually is a nice phone. It's too bad the nicer-looking Android hardware is largely relegated to T-Mobile in the US. I guess it'll get there, though. Verizon just got the Incredible, no? And Sprint will soon have the Evo.
HTC seems to crank out one samey (but nice) Android-based phone after another, but I never see them on stores (or in peoples' hands). They show up on Engadget and then vanish into the ether or something. I don't know. Looking through the major carriers' phones on their respective websites, I'm not seeing much from HTC.
Although it amuses me that T-Mobile's still hawking that G1. For $100 at that.
My HTC Desire looks a lot prettier than that thing. Both the actual phone and the OS.
That is a really ugly phone.
That actually is a nice phone. It's too bad the nicer-looking Android hardware is largely relegated to T-Mobile in the US. I guess it'll get there, though. Verizon just got the Incredible, no? And Sprint will soon have the Evo.
HTC seems to crank out one samey (but nice) Android-based phone after another, but I never see them on stores (or in peoples' hands). They show up on Engadget and then vanish into the ether or something. I don't know. Looking through the major carriers' phones on their respective websites, I'm not seeing much from HTC.
Although it amuses me that T-Mobile's still hawking that G1. For $100 at that.
Wow, why the Linux hate? Your argument is, honestly, fucking stupid and I won't wast my time trying to convince you otherwise, but damn...
Linux UI refinement lags behind others. Who knew!
Just be happy that at least one carrier gets them. For years the gadget sites kept reporting on smartphones which came out in Europe or Japan, and if we were lucky, had half the features come out 2-3 years latter in an unlocked only version for $1000 in the US.
What the hell does the Linux kernel have to do with an UI? They're two completely different things. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.
o_O I personally really like the Android UI. It could use some better explanation, sure, but it works just fine.
It's goddamn hideous. It looks like Windows 3.1 on a phone!
/barf
Admittedly, that's a really fugly phone too, so that might be adding to it.
Frankly, the Evo looks like the first piece of Android hardware I'd actually use. Except maybe the Nexus One, but I'm not shelling out $500 for a phone, nor will I suffer through T-mobile's network.
We'll see... I love some of the functionality Android's got, but everything about it just screams "LINUX IN HERE!" The icons, the layout, the inconsistent UI, the way it all flows together... everything about its UI is second-rate, just like the OS/kernel it's based on.
You also chose an image where the only widget is a text input bar
iphone OS, which is bandied about as an amazing design, is just an icon grid. Android allows for user set backgrounds and icon placement, as well as widgets. And it still hs the plain old icon grid one screen press away.
Bit of a connundrum on my phone plan. Currently on a T-mobile my faves family plan with a ridiculous amount of minutes and the unlimited text add-on.
we don't come close to the amount of minutes we have so i was thinking of switching to a different plan to save some cash. current options are Even more and even more plus. both are identical in minutes and options but the regular even more plan is 10 bucks more but you retain teh ability to get upgrade phone prices. with teh plus plan you can upgrade whenever but you basically pay retail prices and the contract is month to month. the other you need to go into a 2 year agreement
as of may we have a year left on our contracts. i think on our current plan we can get upgrades to smartphones at 1 year.
so the guy at the tmobile store said if we switch now we lose that upgrade option at 1 year.
so far have been happy with tmobile so far. I do get a discount through work on ATT and verizon, ATT is 15% off everything as is verizon but i don't know if the verizon counts for family plans.
on ATT if you have 2 iphones do you have to pay the full price for web/data for both or is there a family option?
anyone know if Verizon emplyee discounts can be applied to family plans?
the talk-text-web option is roughly the same price as we pay now for talk and text but it says it is only for qualified smartphones. We both have the original Samsung Behold. could we switch to T-T-W plan now and then upgrade our phones to full smart phones through Amazon's wireless thing they have now?
i hope this is coherent. it is wrinkling my brain trying to think it out.
basically looking to save some cash but if we can get more for what we pay now or less it would be ok.
What are your needs, as far as minutes?
with your discount, the AT&T 700 minute plan will run you about 6 or 7 bucks cheaper than the Tmobile 750 minute plan would without a discount. This is with unlimited data on both lines, and unlimited texting shared. (Tmobile is 140, AT&T after your discount is around 132)
This is all with contracts. If you want to go off of contract, and buy your own phones at full price, tmobile is only 110.
Bit of a connundrum on my phone plan. Currently on a T-mobile my faves family plan with a ridiculous amount of minutes and the unlimited text add-on.
we don't come close to the amount of minutes we have so i was thinking of switching to a different plan to save some cash. current options are Even more and even more plus. both are identical in minutes and options but the regular even more plan is 10 bucks more but you retain teh ability to get upgrade phone prices. with teh plus plan you can upgrade whenever but you basically pay retail prices and the contract is month to month. the other you need to go into a 2 year agreement
as of may we have a year left on our contracts. i think on our current plan we can get upgrades to smartphones at 1 year.
so the guy at the tmobile store said if we switch now we lose that upgrade option at 1 year.
so far have been happy with tmobile so far. I do get a discount through work on ATT and verizon, ATT is 15% off everything as is verizon but i don't know if the verizon counts for family plans.
on ATT if you have 2 iphones do you have to pay the full price for web/data for both or is there a family option?
anyone know if Verizon emplyee discounts can be applied to family plans?
the talk-text-web option is roughly the same price as we pay now for talk and text but it says it is only for qualified smartphones. We both have the original Samsung Behold. could we switch to T-T-W plan now and then upgrade our phones to full smart phones through Amazon's wireless thing they have now?
i hope this is coherent. it is wrinkling my brain trying to think it out.
basically looking to save some cash but if we can get more for what we pay now or less it would be ok.
What are your needs, as far as minutes?
with your discount, the AT&T 700 minute plan will run you about 6 or 7 bucks cheaper than the Tmobile 750 minute plan would without a discount. This is with unlimited data on both lines, and unlimited texting shared. (Tmobile is 140, AT&T after your discount is around 132)
This is all with contracts. If you want to go off of contract, and buy your own phones at full price, tmobile is only 110.
current minute usage is roughly 500 or so give or take we are not crazy cell phone users. we both have google voice so using that to text would probably work. obviously if we switched and wanted the data etc we would need new phones so the contract would be what we had in the meantime
Here's the price breakdown for you (this is all pre-discount).
Base plan (2 year contract):
AT&T 2 lines @ 700 minutes: $69.99
Tmobile 2 lines @ 750 minutes: $59.99
Unlimited texting:
AT&T: $30
Tmobile: $20
Unlimited smartphone data:
AT&T (checked against iphone order): $30 per line
Tmobile (checked against android phone order): $30 per line
So, at the base, tmobile is $20 cheaper per month, but your AT&T discount comes out to around $25.
Verizon is set up a bit differently, with unlimited text and 700 minutes for $99.99, and then $30 each for the data lines on the phones (checked against an android phone). The priceing and discount all falls out about the same as AT&T.
Then tmobile also has the everything plus family plan which is all inclusive at 750 minutes, unlimited data and unlimited texting, for $109.99. That one is month-to-month only, with no long term contract, but the trade-off is that you have to pay full price for your phones.
thanks for the breakdown Evander. it seems like it will really balance out with either Att or Tmobile after the discount. though if i go with the everything plus family with everything i would probably save some money.
i wonder if i can switch to that now and then upgrade the phone through amazon's wireless store they have now. i think it would depend on whether our phones count as smartphones for the web bit or not.
phone upgrades generally require contracts. They are giving you a discount of a couple hundred bucks on the phone, so they want something in return (which is usually a 24 month contract, which locks you in to a slightly higher monthly fee than you'd be paying without the contract)
also, if you ARE getting a new phone, which phone matters. some phones (such as the nokia nuron) do a whole lot of stuff that would make you call them a smartphone, but aren't actually catagorized as such by the carrier. this means that on these phones you can actually get a CHEAPER internet plan.
phone upgrades generally require contracts. They are giving you a discount of a couple hundred bucks on the phone, so they want something in return (which is usually a 24 month contract, which locks you in to a slightly higher monthly fee than you'd be paying without the contract)
also, if you ARE getting a new phone, which phone matters. some phones (such as the nokia nuron) do a whole lot of stuff that would make you call them a smartphone, but aren't actually catagorized as such by the carrier. this means that on these phones you can actually get a CHEAPER internet plan.
well it seemed like the amazon didn't upgrade the contract but the small print says otherwise.
What the hell does the Linux kernel have to do with an UI? They're two completely different things. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.
My point was that, just like Linux (and I'm using the comparison because Android's based on the Linux kernel) - the focus is on functionality, not polish. That can be a good thing, but it leaves Android lagging way behind WebOS and the iPhone OS in looking and feeling like a professional product.
I'm sorry I insulted your sacred cow. That wasn't the point. Android's an impressive product. But with the like of Google behind it, it's fit and finish is very amateurish compared to the competition. You expect inconsistent UI elements with Linux apps because they're all developed by different people, most of whom have little to no regard for UI convention. But we're talking about one company, with a lot of funding, that has a lot of experience developing software.
That's it. That's my point: I expect better from Google. You can stop freaking out, now.
What the hell does the Linux kernel have to do with an UI? They're two completely different things. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.
My point was that, just like Linux (and I'm using the comparison because Android's based on the Linux kernel) - the focus is on functionality, not polish. That can be a good thing, but it leaves Android lagging way behind WebOS and the iPhone OS in looking and feeling like a professional product.
I'm sorry I insulted your sacred cow. That wasn't the point. Android's an impressive product. But with the like of Google behind it, it's fit and finish is very amateurish compared to the competition. You expect inconsistent UI elements with Linux apps because they're all developed by different people, most of whom have little to no regard for UI convention. But we're talking about one company, with a lot of funding, that has a lot of experience developing software.
That's it. That's my point: I expect better from Google. You can stop freaking out, now.
My point was that, just like Linux (and I'm using the comparison because Android's based on the Linux kernel) - the focus is on functionality, not polish. That can be a good thing, but it leaves Android lagging way behind WebOS and the iPhone OS in looking and feeling like a professional product.
Are we discussing the same things? Have you used Android 2.1? Have you touched the absolutely beautiful Sense 2.1 on the Incredible?
My point was that, just like Linux (and I'm using the comparison because Android's based on the Linux kernel) - the focus is on functionality, not polish. That can be a good thing, but it leaves Android lagging way behind WebOS and the iPhone OS in looking and feeling like a professional product.
Are we discussing the same things? Have you used Android 2.1? Have you touched the absolutely beautiful Sense 2.1 on the Incredible?
Does not compute.
I'm not a huge fan of the Sense UI, though it does look pretty well-designed.
The Android platform is hardly perfect, but the UI is one place where they've done a pretty damn good job, I'd say.
So just futzed around with Kin 1/2 and it's odd that a phone that's basically limited to nothing but social media, zune player, unimpressive browser and calls/texts has no IM services. Seems a bit self-defeating. Not to mention the phone's ecosystem seems even more atrocious than Apple's. Forget Windows Phone 7 Jr. this is Zune Jr.
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Ok so i am on the market for a new phone, the only catch is i am going in on a plan with my mom to save some cash. Service provider does not matter, but i want to keep the #'s, and also its got to be one of those "go into a store, get a phone there" kind of thing.
Also I personally want a new smartphone. My current carrier and my moms current carrier is T-Mobile. I was looking into the nexus but that thing sounds like a dud or something. Suggestions? Is the Droid still great? What about a GPhone?
*i am not looking for an iphone. i have seen them and they do not interest me.
Edit: evander's post there looks pretty appealing actually
So just futzed around with Kin 1/2 and it's odd that a phone that's basically limited to nothing but social media, zune player, unimpressive browser and calls/texts has no IM services. Seems a bit self-defeating. Not to mention the phone's ecosystem seems even more atrocious than Apple's. Forget Windows Phone 7 Jr. this is Zune Jr.
Compared to the Env Touch though, the software is probably a bit more suited to those who want to be permanently attached to their social networks than the standard Verizon OS would.
The Nexus is a wonderful phone. Let the haters hate. Watch how long it takes for the Incredible to get FroYo once it rolls out.
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Whatever phone is an android phone.
Let me just ask this: is there any android phone out there for any carrier that absolutely sucks and is buggy and does not work half the time?
Basically my phone is 2 years old and it has been absolute shit for that entire time, it was not a smartphone. Its interface sucked and was buggy and everything on it was delayed by the broken interface. So i could dial a number, and the number wouldn't come up on the screen for at least ten seconds per number. So yea, any smartphone that works at this point is a bonus for me.
So... how bad is T-Mobile's 3g network? I was going to leave them because I didn't like any of their phones, but I just read about the new mytouch 3g slide and it doesn't look half bad. Thoughts?
I see this new Droid and i want that... but would i end up paying more than the 200$ that is all over the net if i went in to a verizon store?
The Verizon store will charge you $300 with a $100 mail in rebate. Best Buy charges 200 with no rebate. I heard, but did not confirm, Amazon has it for $150 if you can wait for shipping.
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I see this new Droid and i want that... but would i end up paying more than the 200$ that is all over the net if i went in to a verizon store?
The Verizon store will charge you $300 with a $100 mail in rebate. Best Buy charges 200 with no rebate. I heard, but did not confirm, Amazon has it for $150 if you can wait for shipping.
Amazon has some terms you have to meet to get their lowered price, make sure that it's not a problem for you to meet them if you decide to buy from them.
So just futzed around with Kin 1/2 and it's odd that a phone that's basically limited to nothing but social media, zune player, unimpressive browser and calls/texts has no IM services. Seems a bit self-defeating. Not to mention the phone's ecosystem seems even more atrocious than Apple's. Forget Windows Phone 7 Jr. this is Zune Jr.
Compared to the Env Touch though, the software is probably a bit more suited to those who want to be permanently attached to their social networks than the standard Verizon OS would.
Yeah but the Kin also is requiring $20 more per month. At that point you might as well get a phone that doesn't suck dick like the Incredible. In fact the pricing is going to have to be pretty low to justify these phones considering they have unexpandable limited memory (4/8GB) and are feature locked. The Loop streaming wall is wonderful for RSS feeds and social network updates.. and that's it. That's all the phone has going for it.
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Also, my fiance definitely wants a phone with a physical keyboard, but not a slider. We're going to stop by a Sprint store and try a Hero to see if she'd like the virtual keyboard (I want to talk her in to getting a Evo when they come out, I know I'll probably be getting one... ow my checkbook). She's thinking of the Blackberry Tour or Curve or whatever it is... how bad of an idea is that? How does that compare to like the HTC Snap or whatever it's called?
we don't come close to the amount of minutes we have so i was thinking of switching to a different plan to save some cash. current options are Even more and even more plus. both are identical in minutes and options but the regular even more plan is 10 bucks more but you retain teh ability to get upgrade phone prices. with teh plus plan you can upgrade whenever but you basically pay retail prices and the contract is month to month. the other you need to go into a 2 year agreement
as of may we have a year left on our contracts. i think on our current plan we can get upgrades to smartphones at 1 year.
so the guy at the tmobile store said if we switch now we lose that upgrade option at 1 year.
so far have been happy with tmobile so far. I do get a discount through work on ATT and verizon, ATT is 15% off everything as is verizon but i don't know if the verizon counts for family plans.
on ATT if you have 2 iphones do you have to pay the full price for web/data for both or is there a family option?
anyone know if Verizon emplyee discounts can be applied to family plans?
the talk-text-web option is roughly the same price as we pay now for talk and text but it says it is only for qualified smartphones. We both have the original Samsung Behold. could we switch to T-T-W plan now and then upgrade our phones to full smart phones through Amazon's wireless thing they have now?
i hope this is coherent. it is wrinkling my brain trying to think it out.
basically looking to save some cash but if we can get more for what we pay now or less it would be ok.
Palm Pre Plus?
the up-front cost is well worth it given you'll be spending thousands on service over the next two years
This. When you're talking about a smartphone, the amount you pay for service absolutely dwarfs any up-front difference in the phone price. It's already $150 on Amazon; if that's an insurmountable hurdle, 2 years of voice + data is going to be rough, to say the least.
I don't know about the Pre Plus. WebOS is the best mobile OS out there, IMO. It's as open as Android, while having iPhone-level polish. It's a pleasure to use.
Unfortunately, the hardware . . . not so much. It's a bit underpowered, and the slider doesn't seem to hold up real well over time. At least the non-plus Sprint version. It has some minor hardware defects, too.
I'm kind of torn. I'll have an upgrade to use in a few months with Sprint, but I don't know what I want, now. I'm sure I want to get rid of my Pre, just because it's falling apart. But sweet jebus is Android ugly and unintuitive. That's giving me some pause with the HTC Evo or whatever it is that's coming out this summer.
You'd think with all Google's money, they'd hire someone with some UI design experience. Because Android's got some awesome functionality, but clearly, the guy designing the Android UI hates both users and interfaces.
It's goddamn hideous. It looks like Windows 3.1 on a phone!
/barf
Admittedly, that's a really fugly phone too, so that might be adding to it.
Frankly, the Evo looks like the first piece of Android hardware I'd actually use. Except maybe the Nexus One, but I'm not shelling out $500 for a phone, nor will I suffer through T-mobile's network.
We'll see... I love some of the functionality Android's got, but everything about it just screams "LINUX IN HERE!" The icons, the layout, the inconsistent UI, the way it all flows together... everything about its UI is second-rate, just like the OS/kernel it's based on.
My HTC Desire looks a lot prettier than that thing. Both the actual phone and the OS.
That is a really ugly phone.
That actually is a nice phone. It's too bad the nicer-looking Android hardware is largely relegated to T-Mobile in the US. I guess it'll get there, though. Verizon just got the Incredible, no? And Sprint will soon have the Evo.
HTC seems to crank out one samey (but nice) Android-based phone after another, but I never see them on stores (or in peoples' hands). They show up on Engadget and then vanish into the ether or something. I don't know. Looking through the major carriers' phones on their respective websites, I'm not seeing much from HTC.
Although it amuses me that T-Mobile's still hawking that G1. For $100 at that.
Linux UI refinement lags behind others. Who knew!
Just be happy that at least one carrier gets them. For years the gadget sites kept reporting on smartphones which came out in Europe or Japan, and if we were lucky, had half the features come out 2-3 years latter in an unlocked only version for $1000 in the US.
Are you a troll? Because you're doing a fine job.
What the hell does the Linux kernel have to do with an UI? They're two completely different things. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You also chose an image where the only widget is a text input bar
iphone OS, which is bandied about as an amazing design, is just an icon grid. Android allows for user set backgrounds and icon placement, as well as widgets. And it still hs the plain old icon grid one screen press away.
What are your needs, as far as minutes?
with your discount, the AT&T 700 minute plan will run you about 6 or 7 bucks cheaper than the Tmobile 750 minute plan would without a discount. This is with unlimited data on both lines, and unlimited texting shared. (Tmobile is 140, AT&T after your discount is around 132)
This is all with contracts. If you want to go off of contract, and buy your own phones at full price, tmobile is only 110.
current minute usage is roughly 500 or so give or take we are not crazy cell phone users. we both have google voice so using that to text would probably work. obviously if we switched and wanted the data etc we would need new phones so the contract would be what we had in the meantime
Base plan (2 year contract):
AT&T 2 lines @ 700 minutes: $69.99
Tmobile 2 lines @ 750 minutes: $59.99
Unlimited texting:
AT&T: $30
Tmobile: $20
Unlimited smartphone data:
AT&T (checked against iphone order): $30 per line
Tmobile (checked against android phone order): $30 per line
So, at the base, tmobile is $20 cheaper per month, but your AT&T discount comes out to around $25.
Verizon is set up a bit differently, with unlimited text and 700 minutes for $99.99, and then $30 each for the data lines on the phones (checked against an android phone). The priceing and discount all falls out about the same as AT&T.
Then tmobile also has the everything plus family plan which is all inclusive at 750 minutes, unlimited data and unlimited texting, for $109.99. That one is month-to-month only, with no long term contract, but the trade-off is that you have to pay full price for your phones.
i wonder if i can switch to that now and then upgrade the phone through amazon's wireless store they have now. i think it would depend on whether our phones count as smartphones for the web bit or not.
also, if you ARE getting a new phone, which phone matters. some phones (such as the nokia nuron) do a whole lot of stuff that would make you call them a smartphone, but aren't actually catagorized as such by the carrier. this means that on these phones you can actually get a CHEAPER internet plan.
My point was that, just like Linux (and I'm using the comparison because Android's based on the Linux kernel) - the focus is on functionality, not polish. That can be a good thing, but it leaves Android lagging way behind WebOS and the iPhone OS in looking and feeling like a professional product.
I'm sorry I insulted your sacred cow. That wasn't the point. Android's an impressive product. But with the like of Google behind it, it's fit and finish is very amateurish compared to the competition. You expect inconsistent UI elements with Linux apps because they're all developed by different people, most of whom have little to no regard for UI convention. But we're talking about one company, with a lot of funding, that has a lot of experience developing software.
That's it. That's my point: I expect better from Google. You can stop freaking out, now.
Don't worry, you just don't get it.
Does not compute.
how does iPhone OS look and feel more professional?
I'm not a huge fan of the Sense UI, though it does look pretty well-designed.
The Android platform is hardly perfect, but the UI is one place where they've done a pretty damn good job, I'd say.
Also I personally want a new smartphone. My current carrier and my moms current carrier is T-Mobile. I was looking into the nexus but that thing sounds like a dud or something. Suggestions? Is the Droid still great? What about a GPhone?
*i am not looking for an iphone. i have seen them and they do not interest me.
Edit: evander's post there looks pretty appealing actually
Compared to the Env Touch though, the software is probably a bit more suited to those who want to be permanently attached to their social networks than the standard Verizon OS would.
The Nexus is a wonderful phone. Let the haters hate. Watch how long it takes for the Incredible to get FroYo once it rolls out.
Let me just ask this: is there any android phone out there for any carrier that absolutely sucks and is buggy and does not work half the time?
Basically my phone is 2 years old and it has been absolute shit for that entire time, it was not a smartphone. Its interface sucked and was buggy and everything on it was delayed by the broken interface. So i could dial a number, and the number wouldn't come up on the screen for at least ten seconds per number. So yea, any smartphone that works at this point is a bonus for me.
The Verizon store will charge you $300 with a $100 mail in rebate. Best Buy charges 200 with no rebate. I heard, but did not confirm, Amazon has it for $150 if you can wait for shipping.
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That is correct.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-INCREDIBLE-Android-Verizon-Wireless/dp/B003HC8NUW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1272960848&sr=8-2
Amazon has some terms you have to meet to get their lowered price, make sure that it's not a problem for you to meet them if you decide to buy from them.
Yeah but the Kin also is requiring $20 more per month. At that point you might as well get a phone that doesn't suck dick like the Incredible. In fact the pricing is going to have to be pretty low to justify these phones considering they have unexpandable limited memory (4/8GB) and are feature locked. The Loop streaming wall is wonderful for RSS feeds and social network updates.. and that's it. That's all the phone has going for it.