were there good honda matches at evo? hes basically the only guy i play with any more. link?
Alteast one Honda from Eduardo (Puerto Rico). He mostly mixed in lots of walk up d.LP --> hands pressure and jump MP with some relatively smart headbutting. If you have access to live, try looking for replays by rolent23 (I can't remember his exact name), he plays a very similar bulldog style Honda. Rolent decimated my Akuma a couple months ago and really opened my eyes to Honda.
So, after getting my TE stick I decided to break it in by attempting to learn Ryu. Ryu was my main in basically all of the other SF games barring IV, so I figured he'd be a great break away from Bison.
It's disgusting playing as him. Like, c.fierce xx SRk xx super -> Ultra. Not to mention the crazy options out of c.MK.
However, I hate playing him in Championship because he's nowhere near the level of my Bison (with whom I can average something like a 45% win rate). Would anyone mind doing some fights with me later tonight? I'm trying to get better with Ryu, though I think Akuma might be more to my liking.
I just bought the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection for OG Xbox. I'm gonna be playing it on my 360 though. Does anyone know if OG Xbox Live games work on the 360? I couldn't find anything online.
when people figure out you can buffer SRK or SPD/Lariat or just throw through resets meh. My favorite reset is still j.HP (looks like that three punch move) then n.jump and start a new combo.
That's true for every reset. The odds are still in your favor for the mixup game. If you correctly anticipate and block a SRK and go for another combo (probably dizzy) or another reset.
I'm saying if there's an influx of sakura players just because of resets, they'll find it's not an easy win.
So, after getting my TE stick I decided to break it in by attempting to learn Ryu. Ryu was my main in basically all of the other SF games barring IV, so I figured he'd be a great break away from Bison.
It's disgusting playing as him. Like, c.fierce xx SRk xx super -> Ultra. Not to mention the crazy options out of c.MK.
However, I hate playing him in Championship because he's nowhere near the level of my Bison (with whom I can average something like a 45% win rate). Would anyone mind doing some fights with me later tonight? I'm trying to get better with Ryu, though I think Akuma might be more to my liking.
when people figure out you can buffer SRK or SPD/Lariat or just throw through resets meh. My favorite reset is still j.HP (looks like that three punch move) then n.jump and start a new combo.
That's true for every reset. The odds are still in your favor for the mixup game. If you correctly anticipate and block a SRK and go for another combo (probably dizzy) or another reset.
I'm saying if there's an influx of sakura players just because of resets, they'll find it's not an easy win.
Ah ok. I really do hate playing SRK spammers, they teach me really horrible habits. The only positive is they help remind me that I am messing up my links.
I really like doing resets with Akuma but it's pretty much not possible against most players that just mash out SRKs. It puts me in the habit of just doing safe damage. Then when I play someone good, I don't mix it up enough.
Ah ok. I really do hate playing SRK spammers, they teach me really horrible habits. The only positive is they help remind me that I am messing up my links.
I really like doing resets with Akuma but it's pretty much not possible against most players that just mash out SRKs. It puts me in the habit of just doing safe damage. Then when I play someone good, I don't mix it up enough.
SRK mashers have made me give up even attempting links. It's just easier to tap jab twice and stop, block SRK, and punish.
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Ah ok. I really do hate playing SRK spammers, they teach me really horrible habits. The only positive is they help remind me that I am messing up my links.
I really like doing resets with Akuma but it's pretty much not possible against most players that just mash out SRKs. It puts me in the habit of just doing safe damage. Then when I play someone good, I don't mix it up enough.
SRK mashers have made me give up even attempting links. It's just easier to tap jab twice and stop, block SRK, and punish.
Yeah, spammers are good in that they really teach you how to block and punish. It might be boring, but it does help build that muscle for looking for areas to punish against more skilled players.
I just bought the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection for OG Xbox. I'm gonna be playing it on my 360 though. Does anyone know if OG Xbox Live games work on the 360? I couldn't find anything online.
just played that game last night at a friends place, yes it works, but from what i hear the online on xbox is pretty bad. if you want to play online i would recommend ggpo.
were there good honda matches at evo? hes basically the only guy i play with any more. link?
Here's that guy from Puerto Rico giving Sanford a serious run for his money. The commentators are really confused as to why he picks Honda but he is surprisingly effective.
I respect Justin's ability, but the part where he put the stick down and danced around after that winning round caused me to immediately want him to lose.
Dance around when you win the whole tourney, not when you just barely evade elimination.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I respect Justin's ability, but the part where he put the stick down and danced around after that winning round caused me to immediately want him to lose.
Dance around when you win the whole tourney, not when you just barely evade elimination.
Yeah, that's the thing that bugs me the most about him. Also after he lost to Daigo at the Gamestop tourney there was that video of him standing around while his "crew" defended him and explained why he lost while he just stood there like a douche. He just seems very disrespectful.
I don't care if he is the best America has to offer, I want someone else repping my country.
Honestly, if some of the stuff Justin is involved in happened in say, an arcade in the Philippines, several people would now be missing their front teeth.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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I just bought the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection for OG Xbox. I'm gonna be playing it on my 360 though. Does anyone know if OG Xbox Live games work on the 360? I couldn't find anything online.
it works perfectly
both versions (3s and the annivers of 2) have working online, but no one at ALL plays. Althought i did get a match about 2 months ago, and it was lag free.
Honestly, if some of the stuff Justin is involved in happened in say, an arcade in the Philippines, several people would now be missing their front teeth.
That's the thing though, he's in the States where the crowd is also rooting for him - he's not going to pull this antic anywhere else.
I respect Justin's ability, but the part where he put the stick down and danced around after that winning round caused me to immediately want him to lose.
Dance around when you win the whole tourney, not when you just barely evade elimination.
Yeah, that's the thing that bugs me the most about him. Also after he lost to Daigo at the Gamestop tourney there was that video of him standing around while his "crew" defended him and explained why he lost while he just stood there like a douche. He just seems very disrespectful.
I don't care if he is the best America has to offer, I want someone else repping my country.
Do you have a video of the "crew" defending him? I wanna see that and laugh and pity it.
I respect Justin's ability, but the part where he put the stick down and danced around after that winning round caused me to immediately want him to lose.
Dance around when you win the whole tourney, not when you just barely evade elimination.
Yeah, that's the thing that bugs me the most about him. Also after he lost to Daigo at the Gamestop tourney there was that video of him standing around while his "crew" defended him and explained why he lost while he just stood there like a douche. He just seems very disrespectful.
I don't care if he is the best America has to offer, I want someone else repping my country.
Do you have a video of the "crew" defending him? I wanna see that and laugh and pity it.
It's really just the first minute or so (the other questions are on other SF topics), but I don't understand why he doesn't speak for himself on why he lost:
It's really just the first minute or so (the other questions are on other SF topics), but I don't understand why he doesn't speak for himself on why he lost:
EDIT: Holy shit, I just watched that Diago vs. Ricky (Chun) match. I would have loved to see Ricky go toe-to-toe with Wong.
I believe it's mostly cause he doesn't want to seem like a douchbag by explaining why he would've or should have won, but instead has his crew does it, which just makes him seem even more like a pretentious prick anyway.
Everyone is allowed to feel like crap for losing, even more so if you think you could have won, but at least come out and be modest or at the very least congratulate/honor the opponent.
Just got my TE stick. Jesus christ, this thing is super sensitive compared to the hori ex2. I'm not used to buttons being registered when I basically breath on them.
Okay, so I looked up some Boxer combos on youtube after watching finals, and it seems that after a deep fierce punch he can combo a crouching jab into special?
Is this an actual combo or is it a case of the computer not blocking the string? Also, if it is a true combo, is this what is referred to as a ''1-frame link''? Video linked below, thanks.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
The only one of that that isn't a combo is the last sequence, starting at 0:29. It combos up until the two jabs, but as soon as "6 hit combo" pops up, the follow-up overhead punch is blockable. Deep jumping fierce into jab into special works fine as a combo.
Honestly, if some of the stuff Justin is involved in happened in say, an arcade in the Philippines, several people would now be missing their front teeth.
That's the thing though, he's in the States where the crowd is also rooting for him - he's not going to pull this antic anywhere else.
What kinda adolescent-dork fantasy stuff is this? Sounds like "oooh, I dislike this guy, so imagining him getting beat up makes me feel better." I've been in plenty of fights when playing hoops etc, but in an arcade? Arde, you're also from LA... come on brah. What freakin' arcade do you hang at that people are throwing down? I started playing Street Fighter at one of LA's biggest hotspots, the now defunct Pac Man Arcade in Pasadena (as well as the LACC arcades among others) from the original SF2 all the way through Alpha. Rarely did I ever see any violence in the arcade and the only time I can actually remember was when we had the LA riots after Rodney King. Mind you, I played evenings regularly till around 2am so plenty of people were drinking, puffing doobie and tweaking etc.
To me Justin Wong is just a guy who's good at fighting games so I could give a fuck about him, but all you guys ragging on his behavior, his hair, and every other thing under the sun make me wonder: are you sure you enjoy/support competitive sports/games or are you just bandwagoning the popular Justin Wong hate-train that all the cool kids seem to be riding these days? Sure his behavior might upset some folks and possibly get him into trouble in the wrong parts of town, but wtf kinda repressed emotionless person are you hoping to see? Frankly, the contrasting personalities we see between Daigo and Justin (at least when they play) are great for fighting game competitions. It's like Sampras vs Agassi or Bird vs Magic and that's a _good_ thing.
I can vibe and respect Daigo's calm, cool and focused demeanor. Watch a grandmaster chess match. Even they typically show more emotion than Daigo. The dude is a icy as they come and I love it: Daigo's an assassin. I can also see how some people might think Justin is trying to show the other guy up, but thinking everyone should be some kind of clone is nonsense. He's feeling the emotion of the crowd and if _YOU_ haven't ever been in a similar situation, I think ya just don't understand and probably never will. I have been in situations like that on a number of occasions, and when it was me in that position? IMO I think it's much harder to restrain one's emotions and stay focused like Daigo does, but that doesn't make it wrong if you can't be cool and collected and it doesn't mean someone can't be a winner/classy because they DO get swept up in the moment.
Remember Magic Johnson? How about Jimmy Connors, Muhammad Ali, John Elway or Bruce Lee? Maybe some of ya'll aren't old enough to actually have watched those people or never cared, but each of them was a ballsy competitor who wore their emotions on their sleeve, win or lose. ALL of them won, and lost on big stages during their lifetimes, I loved watching those badasses. Did I enjoy those guys more than watching the cool and collected guys like Maurice Cheeks, Ivan Lendl, Wayne Gretzky or Walter Payton? Not a bit, I just saw them as different people reacting in different ways.
You hear the argument often enough that gaming could some day become as big of a spectator sport as the more mainstream competitions. Well this stuff about Justin vs Daigo Reminds me of when skateboarding just began to take off w/ Tony Hawk, Lance Mountain, Christian Hosoi and the numerous others being compared/contrasted. Back then, people tried to say some guys were too rowdy and whatnot, too. I dunno if gaming will ever become that big, but if it does, prepare for the bigger crowds and the emotion that comes along with it... oh wait, the crowds are already here and it's already happening! Maybe like the people passionate enough to attend Evo, ya might wanna root for your favorites and try not to become a hater along the way. Because it is absolutely guaranteed that the overwhelming majority of competitors, regardless of the sport/game/event, LOVE wild crowds and cheering/roaring, and as a result, that crowd emotion affects them, too. Don't confuse a lack of respect w/ showmanship. After all, these are merely GAMES and ENTERTAINMENT.
Now on the other hand if you wanna rag on Justin Wong for not being a "community guy", that argument has more substance and rumblings from gamers depending on who you ask.
It's really just the first minute or so (the other questions are on other SF topics), but I don't understand why he doesn't speak for himself on why he lost:
I believe it's mostly cause he doesn't want to seem like a douchbag by explaining why he would've or should have won, but instead has his crew does it, which just makes him seem even more like a pretentious prick anyway.
Everyone is allowed to feel like crap for losing, even more so if you think you could have won, but at least come out and be modest or at the very least congratulate/honor the opponent.
rakuenCallisto, that youtube vid starts with the "interview" already in progress from what I can tell (maybe I'm wrong though?). So for all we know, perhaps Justin did speak about the match himself, but even if Wong didn't, what did you expect? Watch the whole video, that dude asking the questions is pretty inexperienced; many high school papers have better interviewers. Also, you're ragging on JW for not congratulating his opponent, how do you know he didn't? Anyone can snapshot a few minutes of someone's life, but jumping to conclusions based on information that isn't presented shows bias on your part. Reminds me of McCarthyism; label a guy based on what you can't find.
Did you see Justin Wong after he lost to Sanford in the Marvel vs Capcom final? I did, watched it live. Supposedly Sanford and Justin don't get along very well, but JW still gave Sanford his props on the Evo stream which is exactly the kind of thing you just trashed the guy for not doing. Maybe Justin Wong _is_ a pretentious a-hole, but your argument doesn't hold up based on what I saw.
I don't get why he even has a "crew". What are these guys? Family? Friends? Groupies? What is their function?
Come on now, you've heard of clans. Maybe top rated PvP guilds in games like WoW? Frat boys and Goldeneye/Halo/GoW? Same shit. A competitor is only as good as the people he competes against regularly. If all you have around you are 2nd rate competition, the odds are you'll end up being no better than a big fish in a little pond. Hence Wong's "crew" and why Southern Cali, NorCal, NY and Japan always have strong fighting game scenes. It's easy for lots of quality players to find each other and that means you get to see and learn from a larger pool of people. Da crew.
No wait, scratch that. You're probably right, Justin Wong has groupies because it'd be absurd to think some random video shot on the street would show JW with his friends. Those guys must be getting paid.
Wow that video of a Seth vs EdMa really inspired me to try Seth out, can't wait to give him a go!
U only need 3 moves for Seth.
1) Sonic Boom at Long Range
2) Teleporting
3) The Spinning Piledriver Slam at short range
That's not even an educated response.
You could claim that Ryu only needs 3 moves, that Rufus only needs 3 moves.
What is your point? It's all about the mind games and experience not how many moves a character has...
I quoted this because it's easier than quoting that monster you wrote. Wong doesn't help the community, and that makes him a douche. Also, I didn't mind his cheering, but that time in between sets when he ran off and only barely made it back in time for the next round was pretty...unprofessional? Don't get me wrong, if I narrowly beat Daigo in a set that close, I'm going to yell some obscenities of joy, but I'm not going to go prancing about the stage and then dash back at the start.
That said I agree with most of your points.
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I quoted this because it's easier than quoting that monster you wrote. Wong doesn't help the community, and that makes him a douche. Also, I didn't mind his cheering, but that time in between sets when he ran off and only barely made it back in time for the next round was pretty...unprofessional? Don't get me wrong, if I narrowly beat Daigo in a set that close, I'm going to yell some obscenities of joy, but I'm not going to go prancing about the stage and then dash back at the start.
That said I agree with most of your points.
Yeah, I've been to quite a few tournaments(wanna go to more when I get the time) in my life and I have to say the hype is one of the best parts about them. Other than actually getting to play other good people face-to-face and possibly winning prizes, it's one of the reasons the whole tournament scene is worth it. And it gives you something that I feel online play just can't provide. It's just a great thing to go to a place and be surrounded by people who are as enthusiastic about something as you are.
And it isn't really as bad as most of you guys put it out to be. Unless the crowd is just going out of their minds, most people are respectful enough to be quiet while people are actually playing.
I'm still dumbfounded by the degree of seriousness in which people become involved with these games... especially the hardcore tourney players and the crowds, crews, what have you... amazing.
Honestly, if some of the stuff Justin is involved in happened in say, an arcade in the Philippines, several people would now be missing their front teeth.
That's the thing though, he's in the States where the crowd is also rooting for him - he's not going to pull this antic anywhere else.
What kinda adolescent-dork fantasy stuff is this? Sounds like "oooh, I dislike this guy, so imagining him getting beat up makes me feel better." I've been in plenty of fights when playing hoops etc, but in an arcade? Arde, you're also from LA... come on brah. What freakin' arcade do you hang at that people are throwing down? I started playing Street Fighter at one of LA's biggest hotspots, the now defunct Pac Man Arcade in Pasadena (as well as the LACC arcades among others) from the original SF2 all the way through Alpha. Rarely did I ever see any violence in the arcade and the only time I can actually remember was when we had the LA riots after Rodney King. Mind you, I played evenings regularly till around 2am so plenty of people were drinking, puffing doobie and tweaking etc.
To me Justin Wong is just a guy who's good at fighting games so I could give a fuck about him, but all you guys ragging on his behavior, his hair, and every other thing under the sun make me wonder: are you sure you enjoy/support competitive sports/games or are you just bandwagoning the popular Justin Wong hate-train that all the cool kids seem to be riding these days? Sure his behavior might upset some folks and possibly get him into trouble in the wrong parts of town, but wtf kinda repressed emotionless person are you hoping to see? Frankly, the contrasting personalities we see between Daigo and Justin (at least when they play) are great for fighting game competitions. It's like Sampras vs Agassi or Bird vs Magic and that's a _good_ thing.
I can vibe and respect Daigo's calm, cool and focused demeanor. Watch a grandmaster chess match. Even they typically show more emotion than Daigo. The dude is a icy as they come and I love it: Daigo's an assassin. I can also see how some people might think Justin is trying to show the other guy up, but thinking everyone should be some kind of clone is nonsense. He's feeling the emotion of the crowd and if _YOU_ haven't ever been in a similar situation, I think ya just don't understand and probably never will. I have been in situations like that on a number of occasions, and when it was me in that position? IMO I think it's much harder to restrain one's emotions and stay focused like Daigo does, but that doesn't make it wrong if you can't be cool and collected and it doesn't mean someone can't be a winner/classy because they DO get swept up in the moment.
Remember Magic Johnson? How about Jimmy Connors, Muhammad Ali, John Elway or Bruce Lee? Maybe some of ya'll aren't old enough to actually have watched those people or never cared, but each of them was a ballsy competitor who wore their emotions on their sleeve, win or lose. ALL of them won, and lost on big stages during their lifetimes, I loved watching those badasses. Did I enjoy those guys more than watching the cool and collected guys like Maurice Cheeks, Ivan Lendl, Wayne Gretzky or Walter Payton? Not a bit, I just saw them as different people reacting in different ways.
You hear the argument often enough that gaming could some day become as big of a spectator sport as the more mainstream competitions. Well this stuff about Justin vs Daigo Reminds me of when skateboarding just began to take off w/ Tony Hawk, Lance Mountain, Christian Hosoi and the numerous others being compared/contrasted. Back then, people tried to say some guys were too rowdy and whatnot, too. I dunno if gaming will ever become that big, but if it does, prepare for the bigger crowds and the emotion that comes along with it... oh wait, the crowds are already here and it's already happening! Maybe like the people passionate enough to attend Evo, ya might wanna root for your favorites and try not to become a hater along the way. Because it is absolutely guaranteed that the overwhelming majority of competitors, regardless of the sport/game/event, LOVE wild crowds and cheering/roaring, and as a result, that crowd emotion affects them, too. Don't confuse a lack of respect w/ showmanship. After all, these are merely GAMES and ENTERTAINMENT.
Now on the other hand if you wanna rag on Justin Wong for not being a "community guy", that argument has more substance and rumblings from gamers depending on who you ask.
It's really just the first minute or so (the other questions are on other SF topics), but I don't understand why he doesn't speak for himself on why he lost:
I believe it's mostly cause he doesn't want to seem like a douchbag by explaining why he would've or should have won, but instead has his crew does it, which just makes him seem even more like a pretentious prick anyway.
Everyone is allowed to feel like crap for losing, even more so if you think you could have won, but at least come out and be modest or at the very least congratulate/honor the opponent.
rakuenCallisto, that youtube vid starts with the "interview" already in progress from what I can tell (maybe I'm wrong though?). So for all we know, perhaps Justin did speak about the match himself, but even if Wong didn't, what did you expect? Watch the whole video, that dude asking the questions is pretty inexperienced; many high school papers have better interviewers. Also, you're ragging on JW for not congratulating his opponent, how do you know he didn't? Anyone can snapshot a few minutes of someone's life, but jumping to conclusions based on information that isn't presented shows bias on your part. Reminds me of McCarthyism; label a guy based on what you can't find.
Did you see Justin Wong after he lost to Sanford in the Marvel vs Capcom final? I did, watched it live. Supposedly Sanford and Justin don't get along very well, but JW still gave Sanford his props on the Evo stream which is exactly the kind of thing you just trashed the guy for not doing. Maybe Justin Wong _is_ a pretentious a-hole, but your argument doesn't hold up based on what I saw.
I don't get why he even has a "crew". What are these guys? Family? Friends? Groupies? What is their function?
Come on now, you've heard of clans. Maybe top rated PvP guilds in games like WoW? Frat boys and Goldeneye/Halo/GoW? Same shit. A competitor is only as good as the people he competes against regularly. If all you have around you are 2nd rate competition, the odds are you'll end up being no better than a big fish in a little pond. Hence Wong's "crew" and why Southern Cali, NorCal, NY and Japan always have strong fighting game scenes. It's easy for lots of quality players to find each other and that means you get to see and learn from a larger pool of people. Da crew.
No wait, scratch that. You're probably right, Justin Wong has groupies because it'd be absurd to think some random video shot on the street would show JW with his friends. Those guys must be getting paid.
They take the game seriously, play a lot, travel a lot to compete, it's a big part of their lives that they don't consider throw away time. They're trying to do something with it.
Also, Justin is pretty much the best in the US at SF4, when you're the best, I give the guy some slack cuz he's earned some get out of douchey-ness free points. Plus he's just some dude. He's not a pro sport athlete with a PR firm with coaching on how to give an interview and all that nonsense.
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Alteast one Honda from Eduardo (Puerto Rico). He mostly mixed in lots of walk up d.LP --> hands pressure and jump MP with some relatively smart headbutting. If you have access to live, try looking for replays by rolent23 (I can't remember his exact name), he plays a very similar bulldog style Honda. Rolent decimated my Akuma a couple months ago and really opened my eyes to Honda.
It's disgusting playing as him. Like, c.fierce xx SRk xx super -> Ultra. Not to mention the crazy options out of c.MK.
However, I hate playing him in Championship because he's nowhere near the level of my Bison (with whom I can average something like a 45% win rate). Would anyone mind doing some fights with me later tonight? I'm trying to get better with Ryu, though I think Akuma might be more to my liking.
Ah ok. I really do hate playing SRK spammers, they teach me really horrible habits. The only positive is they help remind me that I am messing up my links.
I really like doing resets with Akuma but it's pretty much not possible against most players that just mash out SRKs. It puts me in the habit of just doing safe damage. Then when I play someone good, I don't mix it up enough.
Yeah, spammers are good in that they really teach you how to block and punish. It might be boring, but it does help build that muscle for looking for areas to punish against more skilled players.
just played that game last night at a friends place, yes it works, but from what i hear the online on xbox is pretty bad. if you want to play online i would recommend ggpo.
Here's that guy from Puerto Rico giving Sanford a serious run for his money. The commentators are really confused as to why he picks Honda but he is surprisingly effective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXIHh3ODKsY&feature=channel_page
EDIT: I didn't see this posted yet, but this is a fantastic match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_LbQU4bHQ&feature=channel_page
And here is the conclusion (less thrilling, but still a good match):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFsJBjeHvMg&feature=channel_page
Dance around when you win the whole tourney, not when you just barely evade elimination.
Yeah, that's the thing that bugs me the most about him. Also after he lost to Daigo at the Gamestop tourney there was that video of him standing around while his "crew" defended him and explained why he lost while he just stood there like a douche. He just seems very disrespectful.
I don't care if he is the best America has to offer, I want someone else repping my country.
it works perfectly
both versions (3s and the annivers of 2) have working online, but no one at ALL plays. Althought i did get a match about 2 months ago, and it was lag free.
That's the thing though, he's in the States where the crowd is also rooting for him - he's not going to pull this antic anywhere else.
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Do you have a video of the "crew" defending him? I wanna see that and laugh and pity it.
It's really just the first minute or so (the other questions are on other SF topics), but I don't understand why he doesn't speak for himself on why he lost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKrLC8fNt4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eeventhubs%2Ecom%2Fnews%2F2009%2Fmay%2F11%2Ffurther%2Dexplanation%2Dwhy%2Djustin%2Dwong%2Dwent%2Drufus%2F&feature=player_embedded
EDIT: Holy shit, I just watched that Diago vs. Ricky (Chun) match. I would have loved to see Ricky go toe-to-toe with Wong.
Everyone is allowed to feel like crap for losing, even more so if you think you could have won, but at least come out and be modest or at the very least congratulate/honor the opponent.
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Is this an actual combo or is it a case of the computer not blocking the string? Also, if it is a true combo, is this what is referred to as a ''1-frame link''? Video linked below, thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYnea2CN0w
*head explodes*
What kinda adolescent-dork fantasy stuff is this? Sounds like "oooh, I dislike this guy, so imagining him getting beat up makes me feel better." I've been in plenty of fights when playing hoops etc, but in an arcade? Arde, you're also from LA... come on brah. What freakin' arcade do you hang at that people are throwing down? I started playing Street Fighter at one of LA's biggest hotspots, the now defunct Pac Man Arcade in Pasadena (as well as the LACC arcades among others) from the original SF2 all the way through Alpha. Rarely did I ever see any violence in the arcade and the only time I can actually remember was when we had the LA riots after Rodney King. Mind you, I played evenings regularly till around 2am so plenty of people were drinking, puffing doobie and tweaking etc.
To me Justin Wong is just a guy who's good at fighting games so I could give a fuck about him, but all you guys ragging on his behavior, his hair, and every other thing under the sun make me wonder: are you sure you enjoy/support competitive sports/games or are you just bandwagoning the popular Justin Wong hate-train that all the cool kids seem to be riding these days? Sure his behavior might upset some folks and possibly get him into trouble in the wrong parts of town, but wtf kinda repressed emotionless person are you hoping to see? Frankly, the contrasting personalities we see between Daigo and Justin (at least when they play) are great for fighting game competitions. It's like Sampras vs Agassi or Bird vs Magic and that's a _good_ thing.
I can vibe and respect Daigo's calm, cool and focused demeanor. Watch a grandmaster chess match. Even they typically show more emotion than Daigo. The dude is a icy as they come and I love it: Daigo's an assassin. I can also see how some people might think Justin is trying to show the other guy up, but thinking everyone should be some kind of clone is nonsense. He's feeling the emotion of the crowd and if _YOU_ haven't ever been in a similar situation, I think ya just don't understand and probably never will. I have been in situations like that on a number of occasions, and when it was me in that position? IMO I think it's much harder to restrain one's emotions and stay focused like Daigo does, but that doesn't make it wrong if you can't be cool and collected and it doesn't mean someone can't be a winner/classy because they DO get swept up in the moment.
Remember Magic Johnson? How about Jimmy Connors, Muhammad Ali, John Elway or Bruce Lee? Maybe some of ya'll aren't old enough to actually have watched those people or never cared, but each of them was a ballsy competitor who wore their emotions on their sleeve, win or lose. ALL of them won, and lost on big stages during their lifetimes, I loved watching those badasses. Did I enjoy those guys more than watching the cool and collected guys like Maurice Cheeks, Ivan Lendl, Wayne Gretzky or Walter Payton? Not a bit, I just saw them as different people reacting in different ways.
You hear the argument often enough that gaming could some day become as big of a spectator sport as the more mainstream competitions. Well this stuff about Justin vs Daigo Reminds me of when skateboarding just began to take off w/ Tony Hawk, Lance Mountain, Christian Hosoi and the numerous others being compared/contrasted. Back then, people tried to say some guys were too rowdy and whatnot, too. I dunno if gaming will ever become that big, but if it does, prepare for the bigger crowds and the emotion that comes along with it... oh wait, the crowds are already here and it's already happening! Maybe like the people passionate enough to attend Evo, ya might wanna root for your favorites and try not to become a hater along the way. Because it is absolutely guaranteed that the overwhelming majority of competitors, regardless of the sport/game/event, LOVE wild crowds and cheering/roaring, and as a result, that crowd emotion affects them, too. Don't confuse a lack of respect w/ showmanship. After all, these are merely GAMES and ENTERTAINMENT.
Now on the other hand if you wanna rag on Justin Wong for not being a "community guy", that argument has more substance and rumblings from gamers depending on who you ask.
rakuenCallisto, that youtube vid starts with the "interview" already in progress from what I can tell (maybe I'm wrong though?). So for all we know, perhaps Justin did speak about the match himself, but even if Wong didn't, what did you expect? Watch the whole video, that dude asking the questions is pretty inexperienced; many high school papers have better interviewers. Also, you're ragging on JW for not congratulating his opponent, how do you know he didn't? Anyone can snapshot a few minutes of someone's life, but jumping to conclusions based on information that isn't presented shows bias on your part. Reminds me of McCarthyism; label a guy based on what you can't find.
Did you see Justin Wong after he lost to Sanford in the Marvel vs Capcom final? I did, watched it live. Supposedly Sanford and Justin don't get along very well, but JW still gave Sanford his props on the Evo stream which is exactly the kind of thing you just trashed the guy for not doing. Maybe Justin Wong _is_ a pretentious a-hole, but your argument doesn't hold up based on what I saw.
Come on now, you've heard of clans. Maybe top rated PvP guilds in games like WoW? Frat boys and Goldeneye/Halo/GoW? Same shit. A competitor is only as good as the people he competes against regularly. If all you have around you are 2nd rate competition, the odds are you'll end up being no better than a big fish in a little pond. Hence Wong's "crew" and why Southern Cali, NorCal, NY and Japan always have strong fighting game scenes. It's easy for lots of quality players to find each other and that means you get to see and learn from a larger pool of people. Da crew.
No wait, scratch that. You're probably right, Justin Wong has groupies because it'd be absurd to think some random video shot on the street would show JW with his friends. Those guys must be getting paid.
it is very reasonable to hate the guy because of that haircut, because come the fuck on. look at it
Oh and that huge rant about whatever... you lost me at 'brah'
U only need 3 moves for Seth.
1) Sonic Boom at Long Range
2) Teleporting
3) The Spinning Piledriver Slam at short range
That's not even an educated response.
You could claim that Ryu only needs 3 moves, that Rufus only needs 3 moves.
What is your point? It's all about the mind games and experience not how many moves a character has...
And this comes from a guy who uses v-13.
I quoted this because it's easier than quoting that monster you wrote. Wong doesn't help the community, and that makes him a douche. Also, I didn't mind his cheering, but that time in between sets when he ran off and only barely made it back in time for the next round was pretty...unprofessional? Don't get me wrong, if I narrowly beat Daigo in a set that close, I'm going to yell some obscenities of joy, but I'm not going to go prancing about the stage and then dash back at the start.
That said I agree with most of your points.
Yeah, I've been to quite a few tournaments(wanna go to more when I get the time) in my life and I have to say the hype is one of the best parts about them. Other than actually getting to play other good people face-to-face and possibly winning prizes, it's one of the reasons the whole tournament scene is worth it. And it gives you something that I feel online play just can't provide. It's just a great thing to go to a place and be surrounded by people who are as enthusiastic about something as you are.
And it isn't really as bad as most of you guys put it out to be. Unless the crowd is just going out of their minds, most people are respectful enough to be quiet while people are actually playing.
please don't shoot me
Also, Justin is pretty much the best in the US at SF4, when you're the best, I give the guy some slack cuz he's earned some get out of douchey-ness free points. Plus he's just some dude. He's not a pro sport athlete with a PR firm with coaching on how to give an interview and all that nonsense.
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