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Damage from long term earbud use?

The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I have a fairly standard data entry job for the foreseeable future, 8 hours a day five days a week. We're allowed to listen to music at work provided we use earphones or earbuds etc. I'm just using the standard buds that came with my Zune but I worry that day in and day out of wearing them may somehow give me problems down the road. I actually listen to NPR most of the time so it's not so much the blaring music and such but the physical presence of the bud pushed into my ear that gives me a little concern.

If something other than just switching of between a simple five dollar pair of headphones is recommended let me know if you've found a particularly ergonomic/comfortable brand of listening device.

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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think (and I could be wrong) that the main problem with in-the-ear buds is that people crank up the volume to block out surrounding noise when the earbuds are right there in your ear. If you're concerned, just listen to it at a reasonably low level, but it might not hurt to pick up some regular headphones.

    That doesn't mean you could then crank up the volume, but personally I find them a WHOLE lot more comfortable than earbuds.

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  • CooterTKECooterTKE Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    go buy yourself a good set of headphones.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You can get a really outstanding set of noise-canceling full-cover headphones from Sennheiser for ridiculously cheap, these days. I don't know why in the world you'd want to use earbuds. I mean, I get it if you're on the bus or whatever, but in an office doing data entry? Fuck that.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Right, there are many comfortable, high quality headphones out there, and I would suggest you look into them.

    As for earbuds, the common problem is high volume use, which can cause hearing loss. However, earbuds can also cause fatigue, due to how they're crammed into your ear, and can be painful or cause headaches if you use them for a long period of time. They can also cause earwax issues, as you're pushing them into your ear and potentially pushing earwax deeper into your ear canal, which can potentially build up.

    If you're not maxing the volume, the other problems are relatively minor, and non-permanent. If you can afford it, though, you'll probably find nicer headphones more comfortable and sounding better. I'd suggest ordering from, say, Amazon, rather than going to a local store, as most local stores sell overpriced crap when it comes to headphones (that are focused more on style than actual sound reproduction).

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You can also buy noise-isolation earbuds as well, that go inside your ears and block out the sound with an outer squishy foam. The ones I had did a fantastic job of blocking sound, and therefore you could turn the volume way down.

    However, I would always have preferred a good set of over the ear cans for something stationary like Thanatos suggested.

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  • TinuzTinuz Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Septus wrote: »
    You can also buy noise-isolation earbuds as well, that go inside your ears and block out the sound with an outer squishy foam. The ones I had did a fantastic job of blocking sound, and therefore you could turn the volume way down.

    However, I would always have preferred a good set of over the ear cans for something stationary like Thanatos suggested.

    I have, and love, the Sennheiser CX-300. They do exactly this and keep the volume down to relatively low levels.

    As for the headphones, I have the Sennheiser HD201's which are simply amazing for the $20 they cost on Amazon. They're not completely circumaural, as I remember (they are at 'home', which is about 6000 miles away and has been for a year...so the exact fit is a little fuzzy in my memory).

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Turn the volume down till you can barely hear it, then turn it up just a little, that is the volume you should have it at.

    If you're trying to use your earbuds to cancel out outside noise your doing it wrong. As thanatos said get noise-canceling full-cover headphones from Sennheiser or something similar.

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  • lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    if you stick with ear buds make sure you get the kind that go inside the ear and block out outside noise. The kind I have are basically earplugs with a hole thru the middle. This allows you to listen at a lower volume because ambient noise is blocked out. The reason ear buds are 'bad' is that generally the ones that come with your mp3 players dont block out noise, so you crank the volume to hear it.
    For cheep earbuds that are pretty good I like Koss Sparkplugs.
    I fully admit there are better sounding earbuds/headphones out there, but these are adequate and cheap enough where I wont hate myself if i lose them.

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    1)why do you have your volume set to blaring when the thing the sound is coming from is DIRECTLY next to your eardrum?

    2) why are your earbuds so far in your ear canal that they are giving you pain (if they are)

    honestly these are the main concerns

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm in pretty much the same situation. I think while you're in the office you'll be OK - I use Sennheiser noise-isolating (not cancelling, unfortunately) earbuds, and even when I'm listening to audiobooks or NPR i've got my iPod volume turned down as low as it can go.

    Where you should be careful is if you listen in transit, on the bus/subway or something like that. When there's loud white noise you're more likely to turn up your earphones to drown it out and not notice that you've got your stuff going pretty loud - it doesn't seem as loud because of the white noise, but it's still loud and prolonged use can be damaging.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Raneados wrote: »
    2) why are your earbuds so far in your ear canal that they are giving you pain (if they are)

    Some people's ears just physical don't hold the iphone type earbuds in place very well. Mine don't at all, they fall out constantly unless I actually cram the things into my ear canals.

    Cheap option is the silicone in-the-ear-canal type headphones like these.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How loud is considered too loud? I've always made a habit of having it so that if I can hear the music when I'm holdng the headphones away from ears I turn it down. Bcause hearing damage from them is a real fear of mine, and I don't want to wear noise cancelling headphones when I'm out and about for obvious reasons..

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  • The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I typically have my volume at a 5 or 6 on the Zune. I listen to NPR for the most part so my intent isn't to block out noise. There are times when my supervisor or someone will sort of call for me over top of the cubicles and I always want to be able to hear it so I'm not seeking to drown things out in the least really.

    My only concern is just the physical presence of the ear bud in my ear. Granted I don't have to wedge them in there or anything, I suppose my ear canals aren't of the type that seem to outright reject ear buds. I just notice that after awhile things are sort of warmer and moister than usual in my ear, obviously from having them capped up after a fashion by the ear buds.

    Do the Sennheisers tend to block human vocal ranges as well? I obviously would prefer it if my supervisor didn't have to yell at me to get my attention or think I was ignoring her.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I typically have my volume at a 5 or 6 on the Zune. I listen to NPR for the most part so my intent isn't to block out noise. There are times when my supervisor or someone will sort of call for me over top of the cubicles and I always want to be able to hear it so I'm not seeking to drown things out in the least really.

    My only concern is just the physical presence of the ear bud in my ear. Granted I don't have to wedge them in there or anything, I suppose my ear canals aren't of the type that seem to outright reject ear buds. I just notice that after awhile things are sort of warmer and moister than usual in my ear, obviously from having them capped up after a fashion by the ear buds.

    Do the Sennheisers tend to block human vocal ranges as well? I obviously would prefer it if my supervisor didn't have to yell at me to get my attention or think I was ignoring her.

    I think you can get ones that are noise canceling, but that can also be turned off so you can listen to music but still hear the world around you. Or ones that aren't noise canceling but just hear through. Open air, maybe they call them?

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  • MurphysParadoxMurphysParadox Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    A bit of a tip for someone listening to music at work: Put a small mirror (or similar item) next to/above your monitor so you can see people walk up behind you. This way you can respond to their presence without requiring them to tap your shoulder or speak loudly. It also makes it harder for coworkers to sneak up and scare you.

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  • CenturionCenturion Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Earbuds are not comfortable to wear for such long periods. If you don't want big noise-cancelling headphones like Thanatos suggests, this is the gold standard for high quality, light weight headphones, in my opinion.

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