The damn Iron Man: Dark Reign arc feels like its going nowhere. The past 3 issues have been useless. The worst part during all this long dragging out is Crimson Dynamo pointing out a quick solution right in the freaking comic.
Tony having to hop from lab to lab to power this repulsor-based brain wiping crap, to prevent Osborne from getting the Superhuman Registration list, and Dynamo says "Why don't you just jump into a volcano?"
I imagine because Tony wants to still be alive after the brain reboot.
So... Newsarama had an article about Ms. Marvel #42 and I had to read it. And goddamn am I glad I did, so I could enjoy this exchange.
Newsarama: First off, I want to call you on something, Brian. You said here on Newsarama that Ms. Marvel was "really" dead.
Brian Reed: She was really dead! But I always thought it was pretty apparent Carol's death wasn't a permanent death because the Avengers aren't acknowledging it and no one in the Marvel Universe is talking about it. This was just a way to set up the Karla show for a little while and take this whole thing to the next level. And there is plenty more to Karla's story coming. It will all tie together with what's happening with Carol.
Which really is as close to what I mfb and I predicted: "Where did you go?" "Died. Came back."
Jesus. What a fucking joke. I laughed like a madman when I first read that though.
On a separate note, that 4thletter Dark Avengers/Orphan photoshop was hilarious.
The damn Iron Man: Dark Reign arc feels like its going nowhere. The past 3 issues have been useless. The worst part during all this long dragging out is Crimson Dynamo pointing out a quick solution right in the freaking comic.
Tony having to hop from lab to lab to power this repulsor-based brain wiping crap, to prevent Osborne from getting the Superhuman Registration list, and Dynamo says "Why don't you just jump into a volcano?"
I imagine because Tony wants to still be alive after the brain reboot.
If he has some kind of plan for not ending up totally braindead, that information ought to be shared. Otherwise it's going to feel awfully cheap for Tony to say, "Hey guys, I backed up my brain!" at the end of this arc.
So... Newsarama had an article about Ms. Marvel #42 and I had to read it. And goddamn am I glad I did, so I could enjoy this exchange.
Newsarama: First off, I want to call you on something, Brian. You said here on Newsarama that Ms. Marvel was "really" dead.
Brian Reed: She was really dead! But I always thought it was pretty apparent Carol's death wasn't a permanent death because the Avengers aren't acknowledging it and no one in the Marvel Universe is talking about it. This was just a way to set up the Karla show for a little while and take this whole thing to the next level. And there is plenty more to Karla's story coming. It will all tie together with what's happening with Carol.
Which really is as close to what I mfb and I predicted: "Where did you go?" "Died. Came back."
Jesus. What a fucking joke. I laughed like a madman when I first read that though.
On a separate note, that 4thletter Dark Avengers/Orphan photoshop was hilarious.
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
Please tell me someone else hates JSA's Mr. America and his stupid whips. And now his stupid sidekick, who discovered he's related to the obscure sidekick of the original Mr. America and lifted weights for a while and hey now he's a superhero whee
I hate the conceit that in comics, basically anyone can put on a mask and train to become almost Batman level. I mean, I like her, but Barbara Gordon literally trained in a strip mall dojo and was able to become Batgirl and somehow didn't immediately die.
Please tell me someone else hates JSA's Mr. America and his stupid whips. And now his stupid sidekick, who discovered he's related to the obscure sidekick of the original Mr. America and lifted weights for a while and hey now he's a superhero whee
I hate him too, but I also love Magog, who everybody else hates, so my opinion may not be valid.
Please tell me someone else hates JSA's Mr. America and his stupid whips. And now his stupid sidekick, who discovered he's related to the obscure sidekick of the original Mr. America and lifted weights for a while and hey now he's a superhero whee
I hate the conceit that in comics, basically anyone can put on a mask and train to become almost Batman level. I mean, I like her, but Barbara Gordon literally trained in a strip mall dojo and was able to become Batgirl and somehow didn't immediately die.
At the same time, the original Mr. America's sidekick died on his first adventure. I wouldn't be surprised if this one died as well.
As for Batgirl, bear in mind that the first villain she fought was Killer Moth. After that, she got Batman training.
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
Stop trying to ruin my gratuitous cheesecake, dammit.
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I love you Marvel Zombies, why you gotta make me hit you?
"Jack may be infected, but the werewolf he turns into isn't!"
Are you fucking kidding me?
Also there's a new one starting in September, I might be the only person who's enjoyed all of MZ to date but holy shit, enough is enough
I think this thread may have just jumped the shark.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
I love you Marvel Zombies, why you gotta make me hit you?
"Jack may be infected, but the werewolf he turns into isn't!"
Are you fucking kidding me?
It's only bad if turning into a werewolf cured him, as that would mean that the virus now has a cure, and that's a helluva sacrifice to make for the minor gain of being able to temporarily turn a character without losing him permanently.
Oh, and Plastic Man is the worst character ever conceived.
Die
Also I believe it goes without saying that Ultimatum was terrible? And that Loeb is horrible and should be banned from writing anything on account of his unrelenting horribleness?
...at telling very generic, accessible 'mainstream' pop-stories that serve a very specific, large audience that is somehow absent from the web. He is pretty much the Michael Bay of comics; he doesn't just write books, he explodes them. And all prior established characterization and plot becomes subject to the 'rule of awesome,' where it can be entirely subverted and ignored if the reasoning is "like, totally fucking hardcore."
A power disrupting weapon? I hate this shit, I hated it when they could make viruses and collars that supressed powers even not relating to the head and I hate small devices which can generate over distance the ability to instantly fuck over supers even for some reason Hawkeye? He has powers? And is Ms Marvels power even genetic? I thought it was cosmic energy? And Cap ...I dunno...rejecting his arm?
A power disrupting weapon? I hate this shit, I hated it when they could make viruses and collars that supressed powers even not relating to the head and I hate small devices which can generate over distance the ability to instantly fuck over supers even for some reason Hawkeye? He has powers? And is Ms Marvels power even genetic? I thought it was cosmic energy? And Cap ...I dunno...rejecting his arm?
I've always hated those things, because a lot of the time someone's powers are simply functions of their biology and making a field that can stop them would be like making a field that can stop people from pooping.
It's also why I despise that one Elseworlds where everybody loses their powers because of space radiation. Superman and Martian Manhunter should not lose their abilities because they aren't particularly super at all. They can just do those things because their bodies work differently.
Also, in the same elseworlds it was established that any technology still worked fine so a few supervillains like Sonar still got to mess stuff up. But Green Lantern's ring did stop working. What the fuck? Whoever came up with that turn of events? I think he or she should be shot.
And Wonder Woman turned into a born-again Christian for some completely retarded bullshit reason. What the fuck. She was personally acquainted with several Greek gods. That is all kinds of bullshit. Stupid, retarded bullshit.
Actually, storylines like these always piss me off because they make no sense at all and I'd be extremely glad if every body would just stop bothering with them forever because they are the worst ideas and never fail to make even excellent writers look like the complete fucking braindead idiots they'd have to be to think stories like these are acceptable.
You can have power-inhibiting stuff, sure, but don't make it a catch-all "this thing supresses superpowers" thing. At least have several things running in tandem to deal with several types of abilities because otherwise this shit just does not make sense at all and it is super annoying because it just spits in th face of storytelling consistency.
This probably isn't still canon, but it was actually established at some point that all of the DC Heroes superhuman abilities and tech got their power from the Source, the DC version of God.
Using the same principle, it's clear that the device shown in New Avengers doesn't somehow individually shut off individuals, but rather shuts off God himself. That would explain why Hawkeye, God's gift to women, suffered as well.
I don't think you can clearly say it was him screwing with their powers. I mean...
Luke had a heart attack, Clint started to vomit. I think he was just physically screwing with them with his chemical powers somehow. Could be wrong, though.
I hate the pretense that the entire team would rocket on down to take care of one lameass C-list villain, and then, and then, after noticing something is wrong with the situation the team with more tactical knowledge and experience than God decides to jump in headfirst anyway instead of doing something clever like, oh, I don't know: having Carol go in first since she's far and away the most powerful/invulnerable.
I don't know. You'd think that they'd recognize a) he's part of Hood's crew, b) Hood gets a pass from Osborn, and c) that they are basically fighting a low-level war against both men that prudence and experience would suggest not doing what they did.
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I hate the pretense that the entire team would rocket on down to take care of one lameass C-list villain, and then, and then, after noticing something is wrong with the situation the team with more tactical knowledge and experience than God decides to jump in headfirst anyway instead of doing something clever like, oh, I don't know: having Carol go in first since she's far and away the most powerful/invulnerable.
I don't know. You'd think that they'd recognize a) he's part of Hood's crew, b) Hood gets a pass from Osborn, and c) that they are basically fighting a low-level war against both men that prudence and experience would suggest not doing what they did.
I'm trying to think of a clever way to say that Dark Reign requires heroes to be stupid, but can't think of one. So just pretend it was extremely witty.
Since he's only been mentioned intermittently so far...I've gotta bring up Garth Ennis again. I can't wait for the day - if it comes - when he hits his head and suddenly realizes how just much he needs to grow the fuck up. Some of his work on Hellblazer and Punisher MAX shows he's fully capable of writing very tight, self-contained narratives that deal with a relatively small cast of interconnected characters and give them a lot of depth and identifiably human failings. But he pisses it all away with smug, self-indulgent trash like all of Chronicles of Wormwood, Crossed, and Fury, and most of The Boys. His attempts at satire are preachy, tired, and often out-of-character for those he has deliver them (except, oddly in Judge Dredd). Crossed is a particular pure example of Ennis going beyond the visceral realism of The Boys' fight scenes and into pointless goreno territory that exists only to get a rise out of the reader. And why does he place such high value on offending people? It's not like Catholic Priests and well-off middle aged white people are a core demographic for comics so there's nothing edgy about constantly using them as villains or strawmen.
Can't recall the specific names of the stories he worked on in Hellblazer, but the mob-side of "Welcome Back Frank (in spite of the shitty political commentary), Kitchen Irish, Up is Down and Black is White" and "Widowmaker" pretty much sum up Frank Castle as a character, for me. I'm not absolutely wild about the post-Ennis MAX stuff but at least it doesn't involve him parachuting out of Nuclear Missiles and shit like that.
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
What if you wanted see Black Widow's taint, ala a creepy up-the-skirt peeper view.....check.
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Invisible nap is the best nap of all time!
No man should have that kind of power.(Twitter)
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
Stop trying to ruin my gratuitous cheesecake, dammit.
I'm really asking that, by the way. I'm not saying "God I hate his art why does he get work?" I'm saying "it has been proven he traces, how does he still have a job?"
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
What if you wanted see Black Widow's taint, ala a creepy up-the-skirt peeper view.....check.
where is that scan/rip from? why is the image at such a lower resolution than the text? is is marvel's digital viewer?
I'm really asking that, by the way. I'm not saying "God I hate his art why does he get work?" I'm saying "it has been proven he traces, how does he still have a job?"
I'm just guessing here, but I would say that its because he gets books out on time, and because for whatever reason, his books sell really well. Its very likely that a large majority of comic readers do not realize he traces.
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Which really is as close to what I mfb and I predicted: "Where did you go?" "Died. Came back."
Jesus. What a fucking joke. I laughed like a madman when I first read that though.
On a separate note, that 4thletter Dark Avengers/Orphan photoshop was hilarious.
IIRC whales have what can generously be described as thumbs on their fins.
But more to the point, that's like asking where Mogo wears his ring: dumb.
If he has some kind of plan for not ending up totally braindead, that information ought to be shared. Otherwise it's going to feel awfully cheap for Tony to say, "Hey guys, I backed up my brain!" at the end of this arc.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Alternate answer: blowhole ring.
Wow, that shot of Black Widow from the crotch like that must be from someone's porn folder. That's almost as gratuitous as the ridiculous positions that one artist for Thunderbolts put ladies in. Butt/hips cheesecake and boob shots in the same panel, with the same lady!
I appreciate this. :^:
I hate the conceit that in comics, basically anyone can put on a mask and train to become almost Batman level. I mean, I like her, but Barbara Gordon literally trained in a strip mall dojo and was able to become Batgirl and somehow didn't immediately die.
I hate him too, but I also love Magog, who everybody else hates, so my opinion may not be valid.
At the same time, the original Mr. America's sidekick died on his first adventure. I wouldn't be surprised if this one died as well.
As for Batgirl, bear in mind that the first villain she fought was Killer Moth. After that, she got Batman training.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Stop trying to ruin my gratuitous cheesecake, dammit.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Also there's a new one starting in September, I might be the only person who's enjoyed all of MZ to date but holy shit, enough is enough
I think this thread may have just jumped the shark.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Die
Also I believe it goes without saying that Ultimatum was terrible? And that Loeb is horrible and should be banned from writing anything on account of his unrelenting horribleness?
...at telling very generic, accessible 'mainstream' pop-stories that serve a very specific, large audience that is somehow absent from the web. He is pretty much the Michael Bay of comics; he doesn't just write books, he explodes them. And all prior established characterization and plot becomes subject to the 'rule of awesome,' where it can be entirely subverted and ignored if the reasoning is "like, totally fucking hardcore."
I've always hated those things, because a lot of the time someone's powers are simply functions of their biology and making a field that can stop them would be like making a field that can stop people from pooping.
It's also why I despise that one Elseworlds where everybody loses their powers because of space radiation. Superman and Martian Manhunter should not lose their abilities because they aren't particularly super at all. They can just do those things because their bodies work differently.
Also, in the same elseworlds it was established that any technology still worked fine so a few supervillains like Sonar still got to mess stuff up. But Green Lantern's ring did stop working. What the fuck? Whoever came up with that turn of events? I think he or she should be shot.
And Wonder Woman turned into a born-again Christian for some completely retarded bullshit reason. What the fuck. She was personally acquainted with several Greek gods. That is all kinds of bullshit. Stupid, retarded bullshit.
Actually, storylines like these always piss me off because they make no sense at all and I'd be extremely glad if every body would just stop bothering with them forever because they are the worst ideas and never fail to make even excellent writers look like the complete fucking braindead idiots they'd have to be to think stories like these are acceptable.
You can have power-inhibiting stuff, sure, but don't make it a catch-all "this thing supresses superpowers" thing. At least have several things running in tandem to deal with several types of abilities because otherwise this shit just does not make sense at all and it is super annoying because it just spits in th face of storytelling consistency.
EDIT: whoops I got carried away again! Damn you, GV! Daaaaaaamn yooooouuuuu!!!
Using the same principle, it's clear that the device shown in New Avengers doesn't somehow individually shut off individuals, but rather shuts off God himself. That would explain why Hawkeye, God's gift to women, suffered as well.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
God damn Iron Man.
I don't know. You'd think that they'd recognize a) he's part of Hood's crew, b) Hood gets a pass from Osborn, and c) that they are basically fighting a low-level war against both men that prudence and experience would suggest not doing what they did.
Can't recall the specific names of the stories he worked on in Hellblazer, but the mob-side of "Welcome Back Frank (in spite of the shitty political commentary), Kitchen Irish, Up is Down and Black is White" and "Widowmaker" pretty much sum up Frank Castle as a character, for me. I'm not absolutely wild about the post-Ennis MAX stuff but at least it doesn't involve him parachuting out of Nuclear Missiles and shit like that.
What if you wanted see Black Widow's taint, ala a creepy up-the-skirt peeper view.....check.
No man should have that kind of power.(Twitter)
There is no such thing as gratuitous cheesecake.
I know I will regret saying this, but I want to see how bad it is.
Typical Greg Land crap.
I'm sorry.
I'm really asking that, by the way. I'm not saying "God I hate his art why does he get work?" I'm saying "it has been proven he traces, how does he still have a job?"
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where is that scan/rip from? why is the image at such a lower resolution than the text? is is marvel's digital viewer?
I'm just guessing here, but I would say that its because he gets books out on time, and because for whatever reason, his books sell really well. Its very likely that a large majority of comic readers do not realize he traces.
He said he probably uses live models like Alex Ross, and Land is one of the best artists out there.
I was like uhm wat