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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How does Daredevil fight Mephisto? By praying really hard?
    It was during Inferno and Matt was nearly killed by Typhoid Mary, who also made him such a mess that he cheated on Karen with Mary's normal side (she had two personalities at the time).

    Inferno comes along, and Mephisto is part of all the demons going crazy business, and everyone is corrupted by the demons, but Matt simply ignores everything. Seriously, that's how he wins. He's half dead and realizes just to ignore everything. He cleans up Hell's Kitchen, and says nothing, and then when he's with everyone else drinking a beer at a bar after making Hell's Kitchen snap out of it, Mephisto tries to seduce him in the form of a hot redhead into admitting everything he does is worthless (THIS is how OMD should have been done), DD refuses and punches Mephisto, who then lets him go because he dresses up as a devil and, at the time, had enough sins to let Mephisto leave him alone (see, this was when Mephisto WAS the devil, not some 4th level limbo demon or whatever).

    Blackheart is beaten with the help of the Silver Surfer (Blackheart's first appearance was in DD, actually).

    I'm going to post some of this in the cool moments thread, it's so good.

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    Bob SlidelBob Slidel Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I am not biased

    as I like Kevin Smith's movies

    and I like Green Arrow

    but Kevin Smith cannot write characters to save his life

    and when they are characters he didn't even create he fails spectacularly

    dialogue? yes

    characters? no

    His characterization was really, really well done. His Batman in quiver was extremely well written. The entire scene with the JLA captured each of them.

    You can't just say that he's bad at characterization without defending your point. Cite some examples.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If scans_daily was still around, I'd post scans from that Batman mini where he fights Onomatopoeia.

    Also, Joker offering himself anally.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Everything the Joker did in Caucophany off the top of my head.

    That Hawkman line you just posted. Out of character for Hawkman. Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean he has no character.

    I can't really say Black Cat getting raped was characterization but fuck that was an awful idea.

    And the scan in the Goddamn Batman thread of Batman going off

    Everyone talked exactly the same. There was no characterization.

    I am at work and can't really look up anything more.

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So I know I'm being one of those guys, but god damn it Joe Q. First you slight me through your impersonal actions, and now you do so personally!

    Believe it or not, I made an account on CBR (with a ridiculous name to boot. I figured that would up my chances for him to respond.)
    Kiel Phegley: Sir Lord Hippo, King of Hippos had a question I've seen a few reviewers asking after in regards to Mr. Fraction’s "Uncanny" run. He inquires, "I'm not sure if this is the sort of question you'll answer, but what's the deal with Jean's body? It was resurrected straight from the grave by Phoenix in 'Endsong,' then it appeared to be there again when Maddie was looking for it and no one decided to mention 'Duh, it's not there!'"

    Joe Quesada: Hey Sir Lord Hippo, that’s one of the reasons Cyclops’ plan to put another body in Jean’s grave was so brilliant!

    What? That still doesn't make sense. Screw you, jerkface!

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You should have asked why Uncanny sucks so much.

    Because Uncanny under Fraction is bad.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Jean's never coming back because she's a boring character

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think she should come back multiple times until there are enough Jeans to spell out, "Fuck you."

    Seriously, I don't miss Jean at all.

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I don't think Fraction's hit it out of the ballpark or anything, but I think it's ranged from just okay to pretty cool when he hits an awesome stroke.

    Dazzler is a generic, boring character who will never be able to sustain a solo series

    Edit: I am so not having this Jean argument again per the rules of this thread

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    she already did for over two years

    has jean ever had a solo book for over two years

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Has Dazzler helped start the X-Men

    Has Dazzler saved the universe

    Has Dazzler ever done anything interesting

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dazzler has saved the universe from Galactus

    Dazzler has beaten The Incredible Hulk

    Dazzler has toppled The Enchantress

    Dazzler has brought understanding to mutankind

    Dazzler has banged Longshot

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    kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Faynor wrote: »
    Has Dazzler helped start the X-Men

    Has Dazzler saved the universe

    Has Dazzler ever done anything interesting

    She was an interesting character during New Excalibur. Then they brought her back to the X-men and decided to ignore all the development she had and make her what they wanted her to, which was a generic pop star with what appears to be no further personality. It drives me nuts every time I see her in Uncanny.

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Longshot's a weirdo, Jean has Wolverine and Cyclops

    Jean has saved the entirety of the world countless times.

    She's also kicked Shi'ar ass, and who likes those guys? Losers.

    Jean is life incarnate. DAZZLER MAKES SHINY LIGHTS FROM SOUND. YOU SHALL NOT COMPARE THE TWO!

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    She had a better haircut in New Excalibur too. Now when I see her I get confused because there are way too many blonde women with long hair.

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well, her hair in Uncanny tends to change from panel to panel depending on which porn star Greg Land is tracing at the time.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I really wish Uncanny had a real artist because I think it's stellar aside from Land.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Faynor wrote: »
    Longshot's a weirdo, Jean has Wolverine and Cyclops

    Jean has saved the entirety of the world countless times.

    She's also kicked Shi'ar ass, and who likes those guys? Losers.

    Jean is life incarnate. DAZZLER MAKES SHINY LIGHTS FROM SOUND. YOU SHALL NOT COMPARE THE TWO!

    Hey if Jean is better than Dazzler

    why is one of them alive and the other deaaaaaaaaad

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dazzler let the Mojoverse be overrun by the X-baby versions of Age of Apocalypse characters.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    see you know what good shit is texiken

    you my dogg

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Dazzler let the Mojoverse be overrun by the X-baby versions of Age of Apocalypse characters.

    Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    it is a great thing

    dazzler rules jean drools

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dazzler was in the X-Men Arcade game. Therefore, Dazzler is better.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I......don't know.

    It was mentioned in the Eve of Destruction arc, but never mentioned again. So I don't know if it was Allison lying to cover up where she's been or what.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    dangit texiken if you wanna be my dogg say it's a good thing

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I will if you say Nocenti and JRjr's DD is the best outside of Bendis and Maleev's.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    man I will so say that because I love Nocenti's Daredevil and haven't read Bendis' run

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Hensler wrote: »
    Dazzler was in the X-Men Arcade game. Therefore, Dazzler is better.

    I hated how I was too stupid as a kid to realize that using up all of Nightcrawler's mutant power and then attempting to flying dropkick my way through the rest of the game was a dumb strategy.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You want to know some messed up shit?

    I think I was 8-9 when the arcade game came out, and I was playing it with a friend and two other kids at a Fuddruckers. We're kicking ass, we get to the last level, Asteroid M, and one of the other kids little brothers, tired of being ignored and not getting a chance to play, unplugs the damn machine and makes us lose everything.

    Who the hell does that? That's bad not only on a comic related level, but on a personal level.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I hope that, as an old man, somebody pulls the plug on the machine that keeps him alive. He'll never do anything like that again!

    Ever.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    daaaamn

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    You want to know some messed up shit?

    I think I was 8-9 when the arcade game came out, and I was playing it with a friend and two other kids at a Fuddruckers. We're kicking ass, we get to the last level, Asteroid M, and one of the other kids little brothers, tired of being ignored and not getting a chance to play, unplugs the damn machine and makes us lose everything.

    Who the hell does that? That's bad not only on a comic related level, but on a personal level.

    Wow. I made it to Magneto like... twice in my entire childhood. He promptly owned me and mutant brothers. To have someone unplug the machine? Fuck that kid.

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    You want to know some messed up shit?

    I think I was 8-9 when the arcade game came out, and I was playing it with a friend and two other kids at a Fuddruckers. We're kicking ass, we get to the last level, Asteroid M, and one of the other kids little brothers, tired of being ignored and not getting a chance to play, unplugs the damn machine and makes us lose everything.

    Who the hell does that? That's bad not only on a comic related level, but on a personal level.

    Oh man I hope you guys punched him so hard. But for justice'n'stuff.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    His brother beat him up, pushed him down and everything (stuff only a brother can get away with) and all four of us went "What?!?!?!" *look over to see a little kid with a plug in his hand* "WHAT DID YOU JUST DO YOU IDIOT?!?!" "Plug it back in maybe it saved the game!"

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    His brother beat him up, pushed him down and everything (stuff only a brother can get away with) and all four of us went "What?!?!?!" *look over to see a little kid with a plug in his hand* "WHAT DID YOU JUST DO YOU IDIOT?!?!" "Plug it back in maybe it saved the game!"

    It didn't save the game, did it? D:

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    No, that was the pie-eye delusions of kids who didn't want to accept they wasted 30 minutes for nothing.

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The last level sucks anyways. You had to fight all the boss characters over again, two at a time. And then Magneto. That level sucked so many quarters out of me and my cousin.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    the punisher arcade game was better anyway

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I liked the Spider-Man arcade game

    where you could play as Spidey, Black Cat, Hawkeye, and Namor.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I loved how the camera would zoom out and the game would change from a beat 'em up to something like a traditional side-scroller. Also, fighting a 50 foot Venom was pretty cool. What the fuck were Hawkeye and Namor doing there, though?

    I also enjoyed the Avengers beat 'em up.

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