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Kijiji cheque scam; can I screw this guy over?
Al_wat
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So I responded to an ad looking for a "bill collector". Cool, I've done that before I'll give it a shot.
I get a reply email, I respond to it and he replies back:
If you haven't caught onto what the scam is yet, essentially the idea is he'd be sending me fraudulent cheques, I deposit them and the bank issues me the money within 1-5 business days. I send the money minus like $500 over to "his clients*". Around ~2-3 weeks later the bank finds out these cheques are fake, and I owe the bank the full amount of the withdrawn money and/or go to jail for fraud.
*judging by the email these would most likely not be domestic (Canada). Probably in Britain or elsewhere.
So. Is there a way I can contact a bank or the police or something regarding this? Maybe obtain possession of the fraudulent cheques and forward them to the police / bank fraud department?
Or am I just being retarded and I should ignore the whole thing?
I'm kind of fascinated by this whole situation because I know its a scam, I used to work in collections and had to collect from people who conducted similar scams (writing cheques to themselves, kiting), and I actually have a person somewhere doing this scam who is in contact with me. I'm obviously not stupid enough to fall for the scam. I would love for this guy to get busted.
I get a reply email, I respond to it and he replies back:
scamming douche wrote:Thanks for responding to the job offer.
As I have mention in the ad I run a small bill collection service as an independent contractor and would like to expand so I can provide more effective services to my clients to prevent any unwanted surprises.
Basically what we would be doing together is collect premium for insurance agents, donations, debt settlements, etc from my client's customers, it would only take few days in getting the bills via courier service at your door step.
Mail Payment is via courier service and delivered to you at your Mailing address.
The Payments are usually in checks, drafts and money order and they're range from $2500 to $5000. It normally takes 1-3 business days to process the bill payments while some are instantly/on spot. Once the payment clear take out $500 as your wages/commission and you will send the remain funds to the concerned client, agent, who work as (Cabin Crew, Flight Attendant & Sailors ) whom we have collected the premium for.
The job is not time consuming; just for five (5) hours in a week.
Outline
1 Receive mail-Payments in Checks, Drafts and money order at your address.
2 Have it processed at the bank.*Deposit*
3 Once it clears your Bank, make funds available to the information provided
4 Close of transaction
Please, to facilitate the conclusion of this job offer if accepted, do send us promptly by e-mail the following:
* Your full names:
* Street address:
* City:
* State:
* Zip code:
* Home phone:
* Cell Phone:
*Bank name
* Sex:
* Age:
Best regards,
Joseph Williams.
Hi, thanks for replying to me so quickly.
Correct me if I am wrong; as a part of this job I would be taking these cheques made out to my name, and cashing them in my personal bank account, keeping a commission and then forwarding the remaining funds to your clients?
Thanks,
-Me
Scamming Douche wrote:Yes exactly!
If you haven't caught onto what the scam is yet, essentially the idea is he'd be sending me fraudulent cheques, I deposit them and the bank issues me the money within 1-5 business days. I send the money minus like $500 over to "his clients*". Around ~2-3 weeks later the bank finds out these cheques are fake, and I owe the bank the full amount of the withdrawn money and/or go to jail for fraud.
*judging by the email these would most likely not be domestic (Canada). Probably in Britain or elsewhere.
So. Is there a way I can contact a bank or the police or something regarding this? Maybe obtain possession of the fraudulent cheques and forward them to the police / bank fraud department?
Or am I just being retarded and I should ignore the whole thing?
I'm kind of fascinated by this whole situation because I know its a scam, I used to work in collections and had to collect from people who conducted similar scams (writing cheques to themselves, kiting), and I actually have a person somewhere doing this scam who is in contact with me. I'm obviously not stupid enough to fall for the scam. I would love for this guy to get busted.
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Just notify the police.
Sidebar: FBI won't care, he's in Canada, the RCMP will be entertained though. [strike]Edit: The OPP's new "Cyber-Crime" unit may also be bored as shit and want to troll this guy for lulz/profit.[/strike] Hahaha disregard that etc, evidently he's in Calgary and his location lies.
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Seems like they would definitely like to know.
Anyone read about the guy who convinced some African scammer he was a Hollywood talent agent and made the scammer and his friends pose in their underwear and send photos to him? I think he even got the guy to shave his chest or something as part of it.
There's a pic somewhere on the net of a Nigerian scammer standing naked on a chair holding a torch in each hand and having something hanging from his junk. :P
How does that not bring a smile to everyone's face? In 90% of disagreements in real life no one is actually being evil or flat out bad, it's just a misunderstanding, or hot emotions, or two different stances biased by self-servingness. But it's rare that someone is actually acting as an objectively bad human being.
But here... what a perfect example. It's abusing trust to commit theft. Not even theft from a bank which is uninsured or faceless. Theft from people whose trust must be worked to gain through interaction. There is absolutely nothing debatable there -- it's just wrong. Now granted, the scammer may not care, or may feel they have to do it to survive, or feel that Americans can bounce back even if they lose all their money, but everyone still knows it's a wrong action, even if that doesn't bother them.
So fucking with them? It's the best way of venting anger or destructive feelings into something which warrants no empathy or compassion. Did you say something too mean? Did you go too far? No, this man is trying to steal your grandmother's life savings. Fucking with these guys is awesome.
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153058
Basically this guy got the Nigerian to carve him an AT-AT out of wood.
That is amazing. Oh man. I should study his email dialogues and figure out how he manages to turn things around on them so well.
holy crap.. I just finished going through that thread, and I was laughing SO hard at the end when he talks about the freak accident involving a landspeeder and AT-AT.
There was an entire This American Life segment on anti-scammers, they talked about one guy they had gotten to travel to... somewhere very dangerous in Africa that I can't remember, it wasn't Darfur but someplace like that; anyway the guy was stranded there because the contact they told him to meet (obviously) never showed up and he ran out of money.