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eBay USPS problem...

Sharp10rSharp10r Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I bought a couple books in an auction on eBay. I received an empty box in the mail today, with notes from the USPS saying they "received empty" I think it was actually the return to sender stamp too, but I still got it.
Now: what happens? If it was USPS' fault, or the sellers, I still don't think I owe anything as I never received what was promised. But- the seller (assuming he was honest) sent it in good faith through the USPS, so I can see how he might feel "I did my part." Where does ownership transfer? How has eBay handled this in your past experience? I sent him an e-mail just to make sure it wasn't an employee who forgot to load the box or something silly first.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If you got it empty then I doubt it was good faith or honest.

    probably a scam to provide Paypal or whoever with a tracking number so he can go " BUT I SHIPPEDED IT, I'm innocent honest! "

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah my friend once recieved a box with a bag of sand in it. And they pulled that too, "But i shipped it heres the receipt!" and so we hand to send in the pic of our box of sand.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Can you see how much the sender paid for shipping? The cost to ship an empty box should be different than to ship books.

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  • Sharp10rSharp10r Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    5 lbs. 12.30 oz. I wonder if through Amazon I could add up the approximate weight of all the books...

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sharp10r wrote: »
    5 lbs. 12.30 oz. I wonder if through Amazon I could add up the approximate weight of all the books...

    Well, I seriously doubt that the box they were in weigh over 5.5 pounds, so it sounds like there was probably something in there to begin with. I'm assuming the box was open when you got it? I don't think USPS would even send an open box initially, so I would say that it probably came open during transport.

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  • Sharp10rSharp10r Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Daenris wrote: »
    Sharp10r wrote: »
    5 lbs. 12.30 oz. I wonder if through Amazon I could add up the approximate weight of all the books...

    Well, I seriously doubt that the box they were in weigh over 5.5 pounds, so it sounds like there was probably something in there to begin with. I'm assuming the box was open when you got it? I don't think USPS would even send an open box initially, so I would say that it probably came open during transport.
    Well I took some pictures, then when I opened the top, I realized 2 sides were ripped/cut out so that one side was flapping around (held on by the tape). So I think it may have been cut into/ ripped, books pulled out, and then put back in the line... or he made it look that way, ripping them out after weighing and printing out a label.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Probably a shady seller but in my experience....USPS tends to look through my mail, every book i bought for summer classes this session came with the packaged opened.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    variant wrote: »
    Probably a shady seller but in my experience....USPS tends to look through my mail, every book i bought for summer classes this session came with the packaged opened.

    To be clear, that's just for media mail. I assume that was used here, as we're talking about books.

    I'd talk to USPS.

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    variant wrote: »
    Probably a shady seller but in my experience....USPS tends to look through my mail, every book i bought for summer classes this session came with the packaged opened.

    To be clear, that's just for media mail. I assume that was used here, as we're talking about books.

    I'd talk to USPS.

    USPS can't do anything about it. Anyone you talk to will do one of the following:

    1) Give you the run-around
    2) Give you incorrect information
    3) Tell you there is nothing that USPS can do

    Your only hope now is to get restitution from the sender and, failing that, PayPal. It is quite likely that the item lost its contents somewhere along the way, but the only thing that USPS can do is "document" the issue and you'd get a callback from some Postal employee that'll tell you that nothing can be done.

    If you want, you can e-mail or call USPS and request the phone number of your Consumer Affairs Office to file an inquiry for the item's contents since if the books were found they might have been sent to the Mail Recovery Center where they are "processed," and by "processed" I mean auctioned if they can't find anyone that the books belong to.

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  • KrummithKrummith DJ Logic Death can't take me until I finish my backlogRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I do quite a bit of selling on eBay, and what you are doing seems the best course.
    You've contacted the seller, and if you don't have any luck there, I would begin to process through PayPal.
    Open a claim with them, and state exactly what happened, and include your photos.
    If your seller still won't make it right, then escalate it to a claim through PayPal.
    Even though a seller can put "We are not responsible, blah, blah, blah" in their eBay listing, according to eBay and PayPal they are responsible until you receive the item.

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