I have no idea where you're going with this. Are you still trying to manoeuvre towards a point, or are you just picking out words and constructing bits of sentences around them now?
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I have no idea where you're going with this. Are you still trying to manoeuvre towards a point, or are you just picking out words and constructing bits of sentences around them now?
He's trying to work his way up to the claim that when you are working for a small company on an awesome project you like, and that company gets bought by a bigger company, your fantastic project automatically becomes a soul-crushingly evil nightmare and that it is therefore morally wrong for Google to hire people to do stuff.
I would sell out in a heartbeat if Google wanted to buy something I made. I've got no entrepreneurial inclination and would be happy to retire before 50.
I have no idea where you're going with this. Are you still trying to manoeuvre towards a point, or are you just picking out words and constructing bits of sentences around them now?
He's trying to work his way up to the claim that when you are working for a small company on an awesome project you like, and that company gets bought by a bigger company, your fantastic project automatically becomes a soul-crushingly evil nightmare and that it is therefore morally wrong for Google to hire people to do stuff.
I see.
Kragerbazu, how big is the company you work for? If its employees number over a hundred, you might want to consider whether your position is morally tenable.
Personally, (I think I mentioned this awhile ago in this thread) I'd like to see a modified version used for forums.
This I can see happening. The real Wave is the protocol, and that will be open when it's finalized. The stuff Google has is just their user interface for the protocol.
Personally, (I think I mentioned this awhile ago in this thread) I'd like to see a modified version used for forums.
This I can see happening. The real Wave is the protocol, and that will be open when it's finalized. The stuff Google has is just their user interface for the protocol.
Personally, (I think I mentioned this awhile ago in this thread) I'd like to see a modified version used for forums.
This I can see happening. The real Wave is the protocol, and that will be open when it's finalized. The stuff Google has is just their user interface for the protocol.
That's what pisses me off about Google, when they can't do something they just buy someone off and force them to do it for them
Hey, it worked for Microsoft for 30 years.
And in Microsoft's case, they were overcompetitive pricks from day one. That was Bill Gates' thing.
Google has been pretty nice from the start, and save for a few mis-steps, seems to have good intentions.
Google most certainly do not have good intentions. They spy on everything we do in order to mine data on us. In addition to that they mess up other companies' business models trying to give services away for free. The latest is what they're trying to do to the GPS market. To add insult a lot of Google's software isn't even as good as the competition.
I'm going to stop here. Sorry but myself and other's I've worked on sites with have been screwed over by Google adsense. On top of that their intentional data-mining is beyond questionable yet people like you seem to give them a free pass on this.
Personally, (I think I mentioned this awhile ago in this thread) I'd like to see a modified version used for forums.
This I can see happening. The real Wave is the protocol, and that will be open when it's finalized. The stuff Google has is just their user interface for the protocol.
That's what pisses me off about Google, when they can't do something they just buy someone off and force them to do it for them
Hey, it worked for Microsoft for 30 years.
And in Microsoft's case, they were overcompetitive pricks from day one. That was Bill Gates' thing.
Google has been pretty nice from the start, and save for a few mis-steps, seems to have good intentions.
Google most certainly do not have good intentions. They spy on everything we do in order to mine data on us. In addition to that they mess up other companies' business models trying to give services away for free. The latest is what they're trying to do to the GPS market. To add insult a lot of Google's software isn't even as good as the competition.
I'm going to stop here. Sorry but myself and other's I've worked on sites with have been screwed over by Google adsense. On top of that their intentional data-mining is beyond questionable yet people like you seem to give them a free pass on this.
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You're extrapolating quite a bit from what I said.
The adsense BS is one of the mis-steps I was referring to in that very important modifier I carefully placed in my sentence.
In addition to that they mess up other companies' business models trying to give services away for free. The latest is what they're trying to do to the GPS market. To add insult a lot of Google's software isn't even as good as the competition.
If the free product is sufficiently inferior, people will pay for the superior product. That's sort of how the real world works.
In addition to that they mess up other companies' business models trying to give services away for free. The latest is what they're trying to do to the GPS market. To add insult a lot of Google's software isn't even as good as the competition.
If the free product is sufficiently inferior, people will pay for the superior product. That's sort of how the real world works.
Google maps is infinitely better than the maps on my GPS, but the GPS will navigate in the car without me having to drop $600 on a smartphone and $25/month on a data plan. GPS still has value for me.
And it's not like the GMaps service on phones is free. Google starts charging over a certain usage, and any phone carrier will zoom right by that.
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But I mean why would I go to wave and "wave" them when I can go to my already open email and send them an email.
Sending them an email takes less time and in the days of push notification is just as fast.
Wait, how does sending someone an e-mail take less time? With wave, as soon as you hit done it's in their inbox. Unless you've been disconnected somehow, but the same thing happens with e-mail. E-mail on the other hand has to go into your "outbox" then wait until the client finishes processing the send request etc.
Or take it from the other side; why would you even bother e-mailing someone when you could just IM them? Much faster and you're likely to get an instant response.
Or have you forgotten that your e-mail client takes time to start up from cold too?
Man, the Chrome Web Store looks massively impressive. The Sports Illustrated App looks phenomenal, and Lego Star Wars looked like it could lead to some awesome things. Imagine Diablo Clones that don't have shitty controls! Woo!
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Man, the Chrome Web Store looks massively impressive. The Sports Illustrated App looks phenomenal, and Lego Star Wars looked like it could lead to some awesome things. Imagine Diablo Clones that don't have shitty controls! Woo!
The Web Store is only half the picture. The other half is Native Client. Was that in the same video? I forget. Anyway, it's open source, it'll be built into Chrome, and it'll let you write programs in C++ and run them sandboxed through the browser. On any operating system. Like what Java was supposed to be, but actually viable for gaming.
The Unity team collaborated with Google, and the Lego Star Wars demo was running on it. They've already got internal versions of Unity that output Native Client binaries.
As long as my MacBook holds out long enough, I really think my next laptop will be one of the upcoming Chrome OS ones. I messed around dual-booting it on my mac and even in it's pre-alpha state I can see it'll totally cover my needs.
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As long as my MacBook holds out long enough, I really think my next laptop will be one of the upcoming Chrome OS ones. I messed around dual-booting it on my mac and even in it's pre-alpha state I can see it'll totally cover my needs.
Doesn't Chrome OS only support Web Apps and not allow anything to be installed in the OS?
As long as my MacBook holds out long enough, I really think my next laptop will be one of the upcoming Chrome OS ones. I messed around dual-booting it on my mac and even in it's pre-alpha state I can see it'll totally cover my needs.
Doesn't Chrome OS only support Web Apps and not allow anything to be installed in the OS?
Yes. However, there are some really sweet webapps out there, and Chrome OS is going to support Native Client. Also, a semi-HTML5 feature it will support is cached versions of websites with a database backend. Gmail, Google Docs, etc offline, basically. Kinda like Google Gears.
Forgive me for misunderstanding...but will that transform your laptop into a brick of plastic when there's not a internet connection? And also, I dunno if i like Google holding all my data and documents
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No. Webapps using the latest and greatest in internets can magically run when there is no wifi.
As for the privacy thing, yeah, that's kinda a problem. I'm hoping more service providers start taking Diasporia's lead and store more things encrypted.
Really, I have no reason to be afraid of Google holding my info, largely because I don't have anything all that interesting, and second, because I haven't had a reason to think they'll do anything with it anyway.
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The thing is that it needs to be integrated into email.
until it is it will be too unweildly to use by itself.
I mean it's neat to organise shit.
But you are limited to people who only use wave.
Satans..... hints.....
than money
there is credit
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Such an obvious reference, come on.
I would be careful who you phrase that, Wave does need a notification system. But we do not need yet another form of Buzz.
I'm going to log into my Wave account and see how Wave runs in IE9 preview 2.
He's trying to work his way up to the claim that when you are working for a small company on an awesome project you like, and that company gets bought by a bigger company, your fantastic project automatically becomes a soul-crushingly evil nightmare and that it is therefore morally wrong for Google to hire people to do stuff.
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Kragerbazu, how big is the company you work for? If its employees number over a hundred, you might want to consider whether your position is morally tenable.
There is a notifier thing for Wave. I have it for Chrome, not sure if its available for other browsers.
This I can see happening. The real Wave is the protocol, and that will be open when it's finalized. The stuff Google has is just their user interface for the protocol.
Hey, it worked for Microsoft for 30 years.
And in Microsoft's case, they were overcompetitive pricks from day one. That was Bill Gates' thing.
Google has been pretty nice from the start, and save for a few mis-steps, seems to have good intentions.
I have not seen one for IE or Opera. But then again I couldn't use Chrome framework without IE crashing.
Also for me Wave did not work in IE9 preview 2. I think Wave didn't know how to identify it.
Google most certainly do not have good intentions. They spy on everything we do in order to mine data on us. In addition to that they mess up other companies' business models trying to give services away for free. The latest is what they're trying to do to the GPS market. To add insult a lot of Google's software isn't even as good as the competition.
I'm going to stop here. Sorry but myself and other's I've worked on sites with have been screwed over by Google adsense. On top of that their intentional data-mining is beyond questionable yet people like you seem to give them a free pass on this.
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You're extrapolating quite a bit from what I said.
The adsense BS is one of the mis-steps I was referring to in that very important modifier I carefully placed in my sentence.
If I did care I would play them a dirge with the world's tiniest violin.
Or a scanner card for your local grocery.
If the free product is sufficiently inferior, people will pay for the superior product. That's sort of how the real world works.
Google maps is infinitely better than the maps on my GPS, but the GPS will navigate in the car without me having to drop $600 on a smartphone and $25/month on a data plan. GPS still has value for me.
And it's not like the GMaps service on phones is free. Google starts charging over a certain usage, and any phone carrier will zoom right by that.
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Wave is now open to all; no invites needed. Just go to http://wave.google.com and sign up!
Full details at google wave blog here.
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Wave now part of Google Apps!
Data-only API now available; stand-alone clients imminent!
In-browser editor goes OSS!
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An on button would be nice then!
But I mean why would I go to wave and "wave" them when I can go to my already open email and send them an email.
Sending them an email takes less time and in the days of push notification is just as fast.
Satans..... hints.....
Or take it from the other side; why would you even bother e-mailing someone when you could just IM them? Much faster and you're likely to get an instant response.
Or have you forgotten that your e-mail client takes time to start up from cold too?
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The Web Store is only half the picture. The other half is Native Client. Was that in the same video? I forget. Anyway, it's open source, it'll be built into Chrome, and it'll let you write programs in C++ and run them sandboxed through the browser. On any operating system. Like what Java was supposed to be, but actually viable for gaming.
The Unity team collaborated with Google, and the Lego Star Wars demo was running on it. They've already got internal versions of Unity that output Native Client binaries.
It's supposed to be part of a full HTML 5 implementation IIRC.
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Doesn't Chrome OS only support Web Apps and not allow anything to be installed in the OS?
Yes. However, there are some really sweet webapps out there, and Chrome OS is going to support Native Client. Also, a semi-HTML5 feature it will support is cached versions of websites with a database backend. Gmail, Google Docs, etc offline, basically. Kinda like Google Gears.
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As for the privacy thing, yeah, that's kinda a problem. I'm hoping more service providers start taking Diasporia's lead and store more things encrypted.