The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Why the hell is toilet paper still around?

DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
You filthy fucks keep cleaning yourselfs with dry paper that does a shit job and I'm left here wondering what the hell is wrong with everyone.

Toilet paper is gross. It does not clean well, it does not feel good, and it's just downright barbaric.

From Wikipedia:
During the later Tang Dynasty (618–907 AD) a Muslim traveler to China in the year 851 AD remarked:

"They (the Chinese) are not careful about cleanliness, and they do not wash themselves with water when they have done their necessities; but they only wipe themselves with paper."

That's right, some asshole from over a thousand goddamn years ago was chiding (rightfully) barbaric individuals using only toilet paper. What's changed since then? Nothing.

I don't know about elsewhere in the world, but here in America, I consider this a goddamn third world nation every time I have to use a public bathroom - and that's solely on the basis of toilet paper, not the general disgusting state the restrooms are usually in.

Cottonelle_Wipes_BIG.jpg

Why is everyone not using moist wipes? The stigma of "It's for baby's!"? I can understand people not wanting to install a bidet, but jesus christ those wipes are right next to the toilet paper in every store. Pick them up, use them. You don't have to exclusively use the wet stuff, I prefer to alternate regular toilet paper and the wipes. I guarantee if you wipe entirely with toilet paper to what you think is an acceptable job, and then take a stab at it with a wipe, you'll be horified at the general uncleanliness of your habits that you've been doing for years.

If someone took a shit on your kitchen counter, would you use fucking paper to clean it up? Hell no, you'd grab some soap and scrub until you pass out. Disinfect that shit. Why the difference when it comes to your asshole? Do you people like shit crust collecting in your pants throughout the day? I'm fucking done with the world if that's the case.

This thread is for those of us that properly clean ourselves. You other, dirty masses may congregate here, and attempt to feebly explain why you choose to wallow in your filth, and we shall take amusement. Carry on.

Wii U: DHS-Odium // Live: DHS Odium // PSN: DHSOdium // Steam: dhsykes // 3DS: 0318-6615-5294
DHS Odium on
«13456710

Posts

  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    What the hell is the matter with you?

    SyphonBlue on
    LxX6eco.jpg
    PSN/Steam/NNID: SyphonBlue | BNet: SyphonBlue#1126
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Because TP is easier to deal with than changing the entire country's plumbing and adding a bidet feature to portable toilets, and because there is money in it and everyone is used to it.

    As for the moist wipes that's a huge pain in the ass as well, and also much more expensive.

    Incenjucar on
  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    From Wikipedia:
    During the later Tang Dynasty (618–907 AD) a Muslim traveler to China in the year 851 AD remarked:

    "They (the Chinese) are not careful about cleanliness, and they do not wash themselves with water when they have done their necessities; but they only wipe themselves with paper."

    That's right, some asshole from over a thousand goddamn years ago was chiding (rightfully) barbaric individuals using only toilet paper. What's changed since then? Nothing.

    Terrible quote. In many Muslim countries they wipe their ass with their left hand. Given that this was over a thousand years ago it isn't a stretch to say that this is what he was referring to.

    Taranis on
    EH28YFo.jpg
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    What do those wipes do to your plumbing and septic system?

    And how much do they cost and how much paper is used in comparison to regular toilet paper?

    Sarksus on
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Because I don't live close enough to the beach to get three shells.

    Couscous on
  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    What the hell is the matter with you?
    Excellent first reply.

    However, I will say that we bought these for my son as he was potty training, and, well, they've become more mainstream since then in our household.

    Yar on
  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2009
    I heartily approve. Americans are pretty disgusting.

    Elki on
    smCQ5WE.jpg
  • Mongrel IdiotMongrel Idiot Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    Mongrel Idiot on
  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    What do those wipes do to your plumbing and septic system?

    And how much do they cost and how much paper is used in comparison to regular toilet paper?

    The wipes are completely safe in a septic system. There's nothing that needs to be done additionally other than buying and using them.

    As to how much they cost, the cheapest ones I use are either $1.80 or $2.80, I dont remember. That's for one pack of 48 wipes. The wipes are large enough to split them in half, or even into four pieces. One wipe (or half or quarter of a wipe) does the job of several regular toilet paper wipes (not squares, a full wipe of however much toilet paper you normally use). It's faster, cleans better, and I think, ultimately uses less.

    DHS Odium on
    Wii U: DHS-Odium // Live: DHS Odium // PSN: DHSOdium // Steam: dhsykes // 3DS: 0318-6615-5294
  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Godfather on
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    What do those wipes do to your plumbing and septic system?

    And how much do they cost and how much paper is used in comparison to regular toilet paper?

    The wipes are completely safe in a septic system. There's nothing that needs to be done additionally other than buying and using them.

    As to how much they cost, the cheapest ones I use are either $1.80 or $2.80, I dont remember. That's for one pack of 48 wipes. The wipes are large enough to split them in half, or even into four pieces. One wipe (or half or quarter of a wipe) does the job of several regular toilet paper wipes (not squares, a full wipe of however much toilet paper you normally use). It's faster, cleans better, and I think, ultimately uses less.

    I may consider these, although the toilet paper I use is made from recycled paper which I think is pretty cool and I don't know if there's something equivalent as far as disinfectant wipes are concerned.

    Sarksus on
  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Godfather wrote: »
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Yes.

    DHS Odium on
    Wii U: DHS-Odium // Live: DHS Odium // PSN: DHSOdium // Steam: dhsykes // 3DS: 0318-6615-5294
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    How do you propose supplying them in public places?

    The notion of having an unsealable liquid supply that may sit around for hours at a time...

    Incenjucar on
  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?

    Taranis on
    EH28YFo.jpg
  • matisyahumatisyahu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    If someone took a shit on your kitchen counter, would you use fucking paper to clean it up? Hell no, you'd grab some soap and scrub until you pass out.

    If I were chopping carrots with my sphincter you might have a point.

    matisyahu on
    i dont even like matisyahu and i dont know why i picked this username
  • Mongrel IdiotMongrel Idiot Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?
    I'm so glad you agreed with that part; I posed it and was all "wait a minute... I've never once heard of another person doing that. Am.. am I weird?"

    Mongrel Idiot on
  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Yes.

    And I am behind you.

    Elki on
    smCQ5WE.jpg
  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Because I don't live close enough to the beach to get three shells.

    Never saw the movie but :^:

    Lanz on
    waNkm4k.jpg?1
  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I have ever read.

    Who the fuck cares if someone uses toilet paper? It's not like your regularly inside other peoples asses.

    ...I'd imagine..

    Toxin01 on
    Aiden Baail: Level 1 Swordmage: 19 AC 14 Fort 15 Ref 13 Will (Curse Of The Black Pearls)
    GM: Rusty Chains (DH Ongoing)
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    There are plenty of issues revolving around toilet paper, but it's more a matter of which sort to use.

    Incenjucar on
  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?
    I'm so glad you agreed with that part; I posed it and was all "wait a minute... I've never once heard of another person doing that. Am.. am I weird?"

    No, I do it too.

    Elki on
    smCQ5WE.jpg
  • matisyahumatisyahu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oddly enough, I've seen another person make basically this same exact post on another message board, right down to the kitchen counter imagery. Is this a viral marketing thing?

    matisyahu on
    i dont even like matisyahu and i dont know why i picked this username
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Yes.

    And I am behind you.

    Cleaning him when he's done with his business?

    Henroid on
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Yes.

    And I am behind you.

    Be sure to wipe up.

    edit: motherfuck

    Sarksus on
  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    You filthy fucks keep cleaning yourselfs with dry paper that does a shit job and I'm left here wondering what the hell is wrong with everyone.

    Toilet paper is gross. It does not clean well, it does not feel good, and it's just downright barbaric.

    From Wikipedia:
    During the later Tang Dynasty (618–907 AD) a Muslim traveler to China in the year 851 AD remarked:

    "They (the Chinese) are not careful about cleanliness, and they do not wash themselves with water when they have done their necessities; but they only wipe themselves with paper."

    That's right, some asshole from over a thousand goddamn years ago was chiding (rightfully) barbaric individuals using only toilet paper. What's changed since then? Nothing.

    I don't know about elsewhere in the world, but here in America, I consider this a goddamn third world nation every time I have to use a public bathroom - and that's solely on the basis of toilet paper, not the general disgusting state the restrooms are usually in.

    Cottonelle_Wipes_BIG.jpg

    Why is everyone not using moist wipes? The stigma of "It's for baby's!"? I can understand people not wanting to install a bidet, but jesus christ those wipes are right next to the toilet paper in every store. Pick them up, use them. You don't have to exclusively use the wet stuff, I prefer to alternate regular toilet paper and the wipes. I guarantee if you wipe entirely with toilet paper to what you think is an acceptable job, and then take a stab at it with a wipe, you'll be horified at the general uncleanliness of your habits that you've been doing for years.

    If someone took a shit on your kitchen counter, would you use fucking paper to clean it up? Hell no, you'd grab some soap and scrub until you pass out. Disinfect that shit. Why the difference when it comes to your asshole? Do you people like shit crust collecting in your pants throughout the day? I'm fucking done with the world if that's the case.

    This thread is for those of us that properly clean ourselves. You other, dirty masses may congregate here, and attempt to feebly explain why you choose to wallow in your filth, and we shall take amusement. Carry on.

    Maybe you just need a bit more fibre in your diet if you need such extensive cleaning...

    tbloxham on
    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?
    I'm so glad you agreed with that part; I posed it and was all "wait a minute... I've never once heard of another person doing that. Am.. am I weird?"

    No, I do it too.

    Yeah, if there's a sink handy I'll usually run the toilet paper under a little water first.

    Sarksus on
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Did you seriously make a thread bitching about toilet paper?

    Yes.

    And I am behind you.

    Me too.

    Toilet paper sucks.

    If you get coarse toilet paper, your ass gets irritated. I hate that.

    If you use soft toilet paper, little bits of paper come off and get rolled up and stick to your ass. I hate that, too.

    When I buy a house, I am getting a bidet installed. I don't care if it's faggy. My ass is going to be clean and happy.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?

    Baby wipes and butt wipes are different. One will clog your pipes, the other won't.

    I'm shocked so many people are against butt wipes. They clean your asshole better, cost probably $10 a year, and clean your asshole better. Rubbing dry paper continuously over an area too will cause it to get a bit raw, no? Maybe I wipe too vigerously, but butt wipes are a goddamned necessity.

    Improvolone on
    Voice actor for hire. My time is free if your project is!
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This is the REAL concern: http://www.naturalnews.com/026627_paper_toilet_paper_forests.html

    --

    Fuck butt wipes, I want a bidet.

    Incenjucar on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?

    Baby wipes and butt wipes are different. One will clog your pipes, the other won't.

    I'm shocked so many people are against butt wipes. They clean your asshole better, cost probably $10 a year, and clean your asshole better. Rubbing dry paper continuously over an area too will cause it to get a bit raw, no? Maybe I wipe too vigerously, but butt wipes are a goddamned necessity.

    10 dollars a year? I can't believe that.

    Sarksus on
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    10 dollars a year? I can't believe that.

    Maybe assuming that you don't poop at home except on weekends.

    I only ever shat at work and it took me two years to finish off a package of toilet paper.

    Incenjucar on
  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?

    Baby wipes and butt wipes are different. One will clog your pipes, the other won't.

    I'm shocked so many people are against butt wipes. They clean your asshole better, cost probably $10 a year, and clean your asshole better. Rubbing dry paper continuously over an area too will cause it to get a bit raw, no? Maybe I wipe too vigerously, but butt wipes are a goddamned necessity.

    I think what we have here is a classic case of people not understanding each other. Some people are, well, sensitive and thus can't use toilet paper thoroughly. Thus, since you don't talk about this with people, they assume everyone has the same issue and isn't wiping properly. Conversely, some people have skin that responds godawfully to being left even slightly damp, and thus think people using wet wipes are insane because you'd have to use them, and then toilet paper in the exact same way. And some people just aren't sensitive either way, nor do they have 'messy' #2s and thus are fine with toilet paper and think that spending more on something you already plan to flush down the toilet is pretty insane. Heck, a good deal of people out there probably just poo at home in the morning, wipe, take their shower and then go to work and don't poo again till the next day.

    tbloxham on
    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The wipes I advocate do not clog, and are less expensive in the long run because you use less. As for use in public situations, there was a roll made at some point of this stuff. I agree though about having a shared pool of moist wipes with strangers to be less than ideal. I need to see if I can find little pocket packs of this stuff.

    Edit: I would eat yogurt out of my own ass, can any of you paper-only people make such a bold claim? I think not.

    DHS Odium on
    Wii U: DHS-Odium // Live: DHS Odium // PSN: DHSOdium // Steam: dhsykes // 3DS: 0318-6615-5294
  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    The wipes I advocate do not clog, and are less expensive in the long run because you use less. As for use in public situations, there was a roll made at some point of this stuff. I agree though about having a shared pool of moist wipes with strangers to be less than ideal. I need to see if I can find little pocket packs of this stuff.

    I've always been interested in the possibility of carrying disinfectant wipes around with me so I could disinfect public restroom toilets before using them. I remember finding a few that claimed to be septic safe and compact enough.

    Sarksus on
  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    tbloxham wrote: »
    Taranis wrote: »
    I dunno. I usually find that if I take a savage enough dump that toilet paper can't handle it that I probably need a shower anyway.

    Or you can just fold the toilet paper over and dampen it a little in the sink, if you're at home and feel like you need a little extra. And, really, you probably should be avoiding pooping in public bathrooms anyway. Shit's nasty.

    And it won't clog up your pipes, and it's less expensive than baby wipes. I'm not going to get baby wipes just so I can disinfect my asshole.

    What happened Odium? Did you go ass to mouth on someone and have a bad after taste?

    Baby wipes and butt wipes are different. One will clog your pipes, the other won't.

    I'm shocked so many people are against butt wipes. They clean your asshole better, cost probably $10 a year, and clean your asshole better. Rubbing dry paper continuously over an area too will cause it to get a bit raw, no? Maybe I wipe too vigerously, but butt wipes are a goddamned necessity.

    I think what we have here is a classic case of people not understanding each other. Some people are, well, sensitive and thus can't use toilet paper thoroughly. Thus, since you don't talk about this with people, they assume everyone has the same issue and isn't wiping properly. Conversely, some people have skin that responds godawfully to being left even slightly damp, and thus think people using wet wipes are insane because you'd have to use them, and then toilet paper in the exact same way. And some people just aren't sensitive either way, nor do they have 'messy' #2s and thus are fine with toilet paper and think that spending more on something you already plan to flush down the toilet is pretty insane. Heck, a good deal of people out there probably just poo at home in the morning, wipe, take their shower and then go to work and don't poo again till the next day.

    Oddly enough this was our terp's argument for using his hand to wipe his ass instead of toilet paper. Why the local nationals would stand on the toilet seat of a western style toilet I will never know.

    Taranis on
    EH28YFo.jpg
  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Bidets are the only way to go. My friend put it best: "If you got shit all over your arm, would you just grab a paper towel, wipe the shit off, and call it good? NO! You'd fucking hose your arm off."

    Premier kakos on
  • HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    We're focusing too hard on cleaning the outside of our asses, when we should be cleaning the inside

    blink_182_enema_of_the_state_front.jpg

    Heatwave on
    P2n5r3l.jpg
    Steam / Origin & Wii U: Heatwave111 / FC: 4227-1965-3206 / Battle.net: Heatwave#11356
  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    10 dollars a year? I can't believe that.

    Maybe assuming that you don't poop at home except on weekends.

    I only ever shat at work and it took me two years to finish off a package of toilet paper.

    It's probably closer to $20, I'm sorry.

    The OP and I also live in Florida where it is really fucking hot and humid no matter what time of year. Junk funk is neigh inevitable and one takes every measure possible to make sure they don't get it.
    This is one measure.

    Improvolone on
    Voice actor for hire. My time is free if your project is!
  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    What's this 'toilet paper?' I wipe my ass with leaves and pine cones.

    Am I doing it wrong?

    moniker on
This discussion has been closed.