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ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I picked up Twilight out of morbid curiosity, and an obligation to understand pop culture... I read the first 300 pages of the book in about three hours today.

I don't know how I feel about this... I'm enjoying it.

How does someone like me, a fella who enjoys cold beer, steak, potatoes, fixing cars, and slapstick comedy, cope with becoming engrossed in a story about a high school girl falling in love with a super-dreamy vampire? =)

Allegedly a voice of reason.
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  • adejaanadejaan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    1. Come to your senses

    2. Take the book outside

    3. Set it on fire

    4. Profit!

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  • T. J. Nutty Nub T. J. Nutty Nub Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Stop hiding it

    let out your real feelings

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  • matisyahumatisyahu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You realize that the mutual exclusivity of a [person who sees preference for cold bear, steak, cars, comedy] and a [person who enjoys sentimental romance novels] is an absurd notion, and that you shouldn't let deodorant commercials, movies, magazines, or even friends tell you how to enjoy yourself or tell you what kind of person to be.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Buy a jug of vodka and pick up Tolstoy.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Buy a jug of vodka and pick up Tolstoy.

    Isn't he dead? That might get me arrested. =P

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Buy a jug of vodka and pick up Tolstoy.

    Or really any novel by an author with knowledge of the English language greater than that of a fourth grader.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    matisyahu wrote: »
    You realize that the mutual exclusivity of a [person who sees preference for cold bear, steak, cars, comedy] and a [person who enjoys sentimental romance novels] is an absurd notion, and that you shouldn't let deodorant commercials, movies, magazines, or even friends tell you how to enjoy yourself or tell you what kind of person to be.

    Yes, yes I do.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Buy a jug of vodka and pick up Tolstoy.

    Or really any novel by an author with knowledge of the English language greater than that of a fourth grader.

    Well I was going to take that route, but I figured we should at least try to help the guy.


    Seriously, Twilight is the latest toilet paper to pass for faux literature. Plenty of real books to read if you look hard enough.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Romance novels are fine but Twilight is even worse than The DaVinci Code, and The DaVinci Code is so bad that another Holocaust would be worth it if Dan Brown were somehow accidentally included in the dead.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Can we touch penises

    I can rub glitter on my man breasts

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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Just don't do it, there is a lot better uses for your time. For example you could read the entirety of the threads on the first page in SE++, that would be better than twilight.

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I read them all in the period of about three days, they're pretty god damn awful. I really would have stopped reading them, but I'm weird about not finishing book series (Fuck your Robert Jordan).

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I read them all and while I know they're horrendous I actually enjoyed them. I think it's just cool to hate on everything for some people. Especially book types who like to feel superior and more cultured than others by announcing that they read far more obscure books.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    honestly, it's dessert literature. it's written to be consumed easily and not to challenge the reader

    it's not surprising regular people sometimes enjoy it

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Case in point

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Romance novels are fine but Twilight is even worse than The DaVinci Code, and The DaVinci Code is so bad that another Holocaust would be worth it if Dan Brown were somehow accidentally included in the dead.

    I would sig that if I could be bothered.

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  • matisyahumatisyahu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Honestly though if there were some sort of tangible gender norm cultural currency, you could probably read Cormac McCarthy's The Road and it would all balance out.

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If you really want your vampire romance, just watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Or at least seasons 1-3. Because Buffy isn't a gutless little bitch and Angel isn't a creepy stalker douchebag and at least the vampires in Buffy have balls and are soulless (well.. barring Angel) killing machines of death and they catch on fire in the sun, not sparkle goddammit

    Seriously. Angelus and Spike and Darla and Dru carved a bloody patch of destruction through Europe for a century. Edward Cullen mopes about getting all sparkly sometimes.

    fuck I hate Twilight.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Since you're 300 pages, you may as well finish since the shit eventually hits the fan and it becomes a great deal more entertaining (briefly).

    I confess I am also somewhat fond of the series, in the sense that it is like a horrible literary accident you just can't look away from. I read the second book because I was curious as to just how there could possibly be enough story material for a sequel and was pleasantly surprised to find a book with a beginning, middle, and end and the most hilarious train wreck of teen angst I've encountered in a long time. The third and fourth were quite shitty, but hey, sometimes when you get eating junk food it's hard to stop.

    I find it funny people suggesting alternatives. Twilight is terrible, but does seem to have hit on something in the female psyche. I don't think people reading it are necessarily vampire enthusiasts.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    So, I picked up Twilight

    What the fuck is wrong with you dude

    Rent on
  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Rent wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    So, I picked up Twilight

    What the fuck is wrong with you dude

    I picked it up because I had never heard of it and my sister told me it was like "Harry Potter for girls" and of course I had to find out what that meant because I like Harry Potter and... well, it seemed reasonable at the time.

    It turns out all she meant was it was several hundred pages of overwrought prose describing how perfect the physical appearance of a total personality-less douche of a boyfriend was as narrated Mary Sue herself, but hey.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I wouldn't worry about trying to reconcile your manliness with liking Twilight. Liking Twilight simply means that deep down at the core of your being, you are a horrible, horrible person of putrid evil emanating from the dark, scabby hole where your soul should be.

    Stephen King actually put it very well. You can tell there's creativity going on (at least in the later books) with some interesting ideas, but they're placed in the hands of a completely incompetent writer.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You're not the first adult man in the world to enjoy something they're not proud to admit to rest of the guys. Pokemon, Harry Potter, dating sims, trashy romance novels, tentacle porn, fruity drinks with umbrellas in them. Everybody's got some guilty pleasure, and if you feel it simply can't be forgiven, keep it to yourself. As long as it's legal, no harm done.

    Seriously, though, Twilight?

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I heard the first and second book weren't so bad. My sister told me it's the fourth book which is abysmal beyond belief (some of these reviews are actually quite funny).

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The second book was probably the best. The last one goes to hell, but it's still vaguely captivating. For what they are they're a solid teenager's read I guess. If you're enjoying it, just keep reading it. Half of the dumbasses here haven't even read it.

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If you're worried about your testicles you should start drinking better beer, or at the correct temperature.

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  • PaperPrittPaperPritt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Hevach wrote: »
    You're not the first adult man in the world to enjoy something they're not proud to admit to rest of the guys. Pokemon, Harry Potter, dating sims, trashy romance novels, tentacle porn, fruity drinks with umbrellas in them. Everybody's got some guilty pleasure, and if you feel it simply can't be forgiven, keep it to yourself. As long as it's legal, no harm done.

    Seriously, though, Twilight?

    :^:

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  • ascannerlightlyascannerlightly Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Reznik wrote: »
    Seriously. Angelus and Spike and Darla and Dru carved a bloody patch of destruction through Europe for a century. Edward Cullen mopes about getting all sparkly sometimes.
    hey, show the guy some respect!!

    he's also really good at baseball.

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  • Cowboy BebopCowboy Bebop Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I could perhaps see the allure to twilight if your reading it sticky to make fun of it and the people who enjoy it but anything else is just plain weird.

    Please post you masculinity into a sealed stamp envelope to the centre of the sun and wait 10 to 15 working days for your femininity to arrive.

    For shame sir, for shame.

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I am a football playing steak eating man's boy (I'm sixteen)

    But I picked up and read through all four twilight books of my own accord and have no problem admitting it.

    AND I enjoyed them all.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'd honestly love to hear how many of you people saying "lol fag" have actually read it. You just sound like dumbasses. It's not a great series by any means, but I'd bet money that 99% of your opinions are just being spat out because it's cool to hate on Stephanie Meyer.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I've read it. I'm less offended by the slight against vampires than the endless garbage about how goddamn pretty the one vampire is, and a main character that's no more proactive than a teenage Princess Peach.

    The writing is absolute shit.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You've already paid for it and done your part to contribute to its success. You might as well go ahead and enjoy it now.

    As long as you never admit your sin to anyone in real life you should be fine.

    Your reputation on these boards is probably irreparably tarnished now though, so you should go ahead and just start a new account.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oldsak wrote: »
    You've already paid for it and done your part to contribute to its success. You might as well go ahead and enjoy it now.

    As long as you never admit your sin to anyone in real life you should be fine.

    Your reputation on these boards is probably irreparably tarnished now though, so you should go ahead and just start a new account.

    hohohohohoho. YES. QUITE.

    lmAOrofl etc...

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So a little over two years ago when no one had really heard about twilight I ended up reading it because I was looking for some modern day supernatural. I think I may have finished the first book. I was stunned at how horrible it was. As I was reading I kept thinking that it was just taking it's time getting to the meat of the story and things were going to turn dark any page now with a twist. That shit was going to get real and shake this characters world to it's foundation.

    Totally didn't happen.

    I read urban fantasy popcorn and enjoy it (See Dresden Files, and the Nightside series), but that... book was not what I wanted.

    My wife has read them and enjoyed them all but I fully tease her about it all the time, because usually she has (what I see as) better taste in books than that. She he admits they're crappy but it's a chick thing to dig cheap romance sometimes.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus, I don't know how to help, but some things just click for some folks. You like teenage romance, but I like shit with swords and orc killing. Does that mean I'm better than you? Maybe. I guess my nerdom is more socially acceptable.

    If you do continue down this path and everything that goes with it(i.e. movies, fanfics, etc.) I suggest you get a girlfriend then tell everyone she dragged you into this.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    My wife has read them and enjoyed them all but I fully tease her about it all the time, because usually she has (what I see as) better taste in books than that. She he admits they're crappy but it's a chick thing to dig cheap romance sometimes.

    My girlfriend goes through a cheap romance novel every week or so. I've flipped through the beginnings of a few, they have all the ridiculous setup of a 70's porno.
    A couple months back she read one about a woman living on a private island. Some guy delivers her groceries by boat. He makes a sexist crack about her cans, and she tries to fire a decorative cannon at him. Decorative cannonball just rolls down the barrel, off the dock, and sinks his boat. Despite having a cell phone, access to a telephone, and an emergency radio on the island, he's trapped with crazy cannon lady until somebody thinks to come looking for him.

    I mean, I'd make fun of her and all, but I think I saw that one when I was younger. The chick in the book had probably heard of a razor, too.

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  • Bryse EayoBryse Eayo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If you want to stop or have a tangible reason why not to like the books beyond the quality of the prose, just read up on the religious and pretty sexist undertones that become more and more apparent as you go through the novels.

    But they are candy books just like Harry Potter, which I enjoyed. They just don't contain any intellectually nutritional value, and depending on how far you want to examine of the author's choices it could be down right bad for you.

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  • Cowboy BebopCowboy Bebop Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'd honestly love to hear how many of you people saying "lol fag" have actually read it. You just sound like dumbasses. It's not a great series by any means, but I'd bet money that 99% of your opinions are just being spat out because it's cool to hate on Stephanie Meyer.

    A valid point, I’d have to put myself in that camp as I’ve only heard what the books/films are like by second hand accounts from friends. The whole sunlight making vampires ‘sparkle’ as apposed to making them burst in flames did make my blood boil for some reason though.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'd honestly love to hear how many of you people saying "lol fag" have actually read it. You just sound like dumbasses. It's not a great series by any means, but I'd bet money that 99% of your opinions are just being spat out because it's cool to hate on Stephanie Meyer.

    A valid point, I’d have to put myself in that camp as I’ve only heard what the books/films are like by second hand accounts from friends. The whole sunlight making vampires ‘sparkle’ as apposed to making them burst in flames did make my blood boil for some reason though.

    Exactly. It really isn't the same thing. I mean, I've read them all. I'm glad I read them, and I can understand people's issues with the series but seriously, they aren't as horrendous as everyone makes them out to be. Some parts are mind numbingly frustrating, but other parts are actually interesting to read. I've definitely read worse books.

    To the above poster, I'd even argue that general fantasy novels are less sociably acceptable. It doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you an idiot for thinking like that.

    I wouldn't recommend these to any of my friends, but still, I think people take it way out of proportion just because it's popular. The same thing happened with Harry Potter a few years ago, and those are fun books People just love to have a smug sense of superiority. Especially on the internet. That's pretty much what this comes down to. So OP. You like them. Good for you.

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