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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    I AM A MOOD

    SOMEONE BREAK ME OUT OF IT GRADYAFHNAFKAFAYHANFUUUUUUUUU

    magritte-lovers.jpg

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NightmareFuel

    That picture made me feel suffocated.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    OKAY

    GETTING WORSE

    HEART RATE AT 180 BPM

    SWEATING LIKE CRAZY

    DANG

    CALLING MY MOM TO COME KEEP AN EYE ON ME

    Pony on
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    _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    OKAY

    GETTING WORSE

    HEART RATE AT 180 BPM

    SWEATING LIKE CRAZY

    DANG

    CALLING MY MOM TO COME KEEP AN EYE ON ME

    Could you get more medicine?

    Or, like, go jogging or something?

    _J_ on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_ wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    OKAY

    GETTING WORSE

    HEART RATE AT 180 BPM

    SWEATING LIKE CRAZY

    DANG

    CALLING MY MOM TO COME KEEP AN EYE ON ME

    Could you get more medicine?

    Or, like, go jogging or something?

    more medicine won't do anything at this point, except the lorazepam which i don't want to take unless absolutely necessary since it does bad things to me after

    it will actually take 1-2 days before the medication i took today does anything

    this might subside on its own, but it might get even worse, hence my mom is now on her way to come hang out and keep an eye in case i collapse or vibrate through time or something

    my body is shaking, i am sweating profusely, and my teeth are chattering

    my heart feels like it's going to explode

    i am afraid to do anything except sit where i am and try to relax, talking through it helps

    if i exercise i am afraid of making it worse or making my bones shatter or something

    Pony on
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    _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    If you have an abundance of energy would not using that energy deplete the reserves?

    _J_ on
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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Poastin' from my new phone. Pre ftw!

    i think you got an autocorrect typo there.
    Everything I typed is correct, except that Pre should have an umlaut on the "e".

    Hi I'm Vee! on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_ wrote: »
    If you have an abundance of energy would not using that energy deplete the reserves?

    it's not "energy" though, it's a chemical imbalance

    my body isn't powered by a nuclear reactor or something

    it just thinks it is

    in reality i'm actually out of shape right now and in poor cardiovascular condition

    the risk is if i exert myself right now i could actually damage my body because it will push itself farther than it is actually capable

    i have torn muscles and fractured bone before in this condition without feeling anything until after

    no thanks

    also, there's a possibility my body could go "OH WE'RE EXERCISING NOW? MAYBE YOU NEED MORE EPINEPHRINE THEN!" and i could stroke out again

    Pony on
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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Sorry to hear that Pony. A few years back I had a similar problem and then it just went away. In the meantime it sucked hard because for about a year I was afraid to do anything more strenuous than walk.

    themightypuck on
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    ― Marcus Aurelius

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    OKAY

    GETTING WORSE

    HEART RATE AT 180 BPM

    SWEATING LIKE CRAZY

    DANG

    CALLING MY MOM TO COME KEEP AN EYE ON ME

    Could you get more medicine?

    Or, like, go jogging or something?

    more medicine won't do anything at this point, except the lorazepam which i don't want to take unless absolutely necessary since it does bad things to me after

    How about marzipan?

    moniker on
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited July 2009
    Everything I typed is correct, except that Pre should have an umlaut on the "e".

    Prë

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    OKAY

    GETTING WORSE

    HEART RATE AT 180 BPM

    SWEATING LIKE CRAZY

    DANG

    CALLING MY MOM TO COME KEEP AN EYE ON ME

    Could you get more medicine?

    Or, like, go jogging or something?

    more medicine won't do anything at this point, except the lorazepam which i don't want to take unless absolutely necessary since it does bad things to me after

    How about marzipan?

    i don't believe in alternative medicine

    Pony on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    TL DR on
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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Everything I typed is correct, except that Pre should have an umlaut on the "e".

    Prë

    Everything is better with umlauts.

    moniker on
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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Anyway, dinnertime. Later.

    Hi I'm Vee! on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    naw

    i got lorazepam if i gotta tranq myself

    i've never tried haldol

    but i don't like using benzos in general if i ain't gotta

    they're addictive as shit

    Pony on
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I now have proof that Thunder Bay is retarded.

    City Council held a vote (much publicized in the previous weeks due to the "controversial" nature of it and the dozens of people having an opinion on the "issue"). They voted not to add fluoride to the water system because of the concerns of local people that it's a health hazard.

    Aegis on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    naw

    i got lorazepam if i gotta tranq myself

    i've never tried haldol

    but i don't like using benzos in general if i ain't gotta

    they're addictive as shit

    You know movies with totally zonked out schizophrenic people that just take small steps and don't talk or do anything? That's Haldol.

    Anyway it wasn't a suggestion so much as a joke on your alt. medicine comment. What constitutes alternative medicine to you?

    TL DR on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    naw

    i got lorazepam if i gotta tranq myself

    i've never tried haldol

    but i don't like using benzos in general if i ain't gotta

    they're addictive as shit

    You know movies with totally zonked out schizophrenic people that just take small steps and don't talk or do anything? That's Haldol.

    Anyway it wasn't a suggestion so much as a joke on your alt. medicine comment. What constitutes alternative medicine to you?

    reflexology, acupuncture, those sorts of bodunk pseudo-medicines practices by not-doctors that make a bunch of claims backed by flimsy evidence and coincidental successes

    i have a lot of really complex health problems and any suggestion by any person that i should resort to snake oils and chakra alignments to fix my very serious and real medical issues get to enjoy my blistering waves of fuck-you-gaze

    people mean well

    but i'm sorry, i don't just have chronic back pain, i have a shortened life expectancy because of inborn genetic disorders that can, and one day probably will, kill me

    i don't fuck around when it comes to that or have any tolerance for using wormwood and ginger root and footrubs

    Pony on
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    goodness that post was angrier than i had intended

    oh well

    Pony on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    naw

    i got lorazepam if i gotta tranq myself

    i've never tried haldol

    but i don't like using benzos in general if i ain't gotta

    they're addictive as shit

    You know movies with totally zonked out schizophrenic people that just take small steps and don't talk or do anything? That's Haldol.

    Anyway it wasn't a suggestion so much as a joke on your alt. medicine comment. What constitutes alternative medicine to you?

    reflexology, acupuncture, those sorts of bodunk pseudo-medicines practices by not-doctors that make a bunch of claims backed by flimsy evidence and coincidental successes

    i have a lot of really complex health problems and any suggestion by any person that i should resort to snake oils and chakra alignments to fix my very serious and real medical issues get to enjoy my blistering waves of fuck-you-gaze

    people mean well

    but i'm sorry, i don't just have chronic back pain, i have a shortened life expectancy because of inborn genetic disorders that can, and one day probably will, kill me

    i don't fuck around when it comes to that or have any tolerance for using wormwood and ginger root and footrubs

    Fair enough, I once worked at a pharmacy and someone asked me to point them to the ear candles. It took everything I had not to tell him to check the phrenology department. The placebo effect is a potent thing though. Have you tried meditation?

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ear fucking candles?? WTF.

    themightypuck on
    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The cop thread has gone to an odd place.

    Cinders on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    goodness that post was angrier than i had intended

    oh well

    It's understandable. But medical research funded by pharm companies is not going to do anything to promote something that can't be patented and sold. My mom just got methylphenidate from her doctor, for weight loss. The fucking doc didn't give her any information about diet and exercise.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Damn Pony, that's nuts. Sit in a dark room and take slow, deep breaths?

    edit: Oh, nevermind. Haldol?

    naw

    i got lorazepam if i gotta tranq myself

    i've never tried haldol

    but i don't like using benzos in general if i ain't gotta

    they're addictive as shit

    You know movies with totally zonked out schizophrenic people that just take small steps and don't talk or do anything? That's Haldol.

    Anyway it wasn't a suggestion so much as a joke on your alt. medicine comment. What constitutes alternative medicine to you?

    reflexology, acupuncture, those sorts of bodunk pseudo-medicines practices by not-doctors that make a bunch of claims backed by flimsy evidence and coincidental successes

    i have a lot of really complex health problems and any suggestion by any person that i should resort to snake oils and chakra alignments to fix my very serious and real medical issues get to enjoy my blistering waves of fuck-you-gaze

    people mean well

    but i'm sorry, i don't just have chronic back pain, i have a shortened life expectancy because of inborn genetic disorders that can, and one day probably will, kill me

    i don't fuck around when it comes to that or have any tolerance for using wormwood and ginger root and footrubs

    Fair enough, I once worked at a pharmacy and someone asked me to point them to the ear candles. It took everything I had not to tell him to check the phrenology department. The placebo effect is a potent thing though. Have you tried meditation?

    yes. as much as i scowl at alternative medicine and the suggestion by anyone that i try it, in fact i do utilize meditation and even spiritual practices specific to my religious faith as a way of positively affecting my psychological state, which in turn has a real effect on my physical health.

    but i also don't make illusions about that. i mean, i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith that i practice, but at the same time i also believe that if they were subject to real scientific examination inevitably the methods by which any successes they can achieve would be discerned, even if the effect itself turns out to be nothing but placebic.

    i don't feel a need to subject it to such scrutiny, however, so long as the success rate stays consistent to my individual usage and experience. outcomes are more important than method, for me.

    which makes me wholeheartedly reject other forms of alternative medicine specifically because my skepticism and negative attitude towards them would inevitably and knowingly spoil any positive placebo effect they may have for people who believe in them.

    i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side, and that works so i'll go with that

    i try to step outside that and it will just end up with me wasting my time on irrelevant things, probably to my detriment for foolishly placed hope.

    Pony on
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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    I now have proof that Thunder Bay is retarded.

    City Council held a vote (much publicized in the previous weeks due to the "controversial" nature of it and the dozens of people having an opinion on the "issue"). They voted not to add fluoride to the water system because of the concerns of local people that it's a health hazard.

    Now how are we going to get them to turn communist?

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    Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    I now have proof that Thunder Bay is retarded.

    City Council held a vote (much publicized in the previous weeks due to the "controversial" nature of it and the dozens of people having an opinion on the "issue"). They voted not to add fluoride to the water system because of the concerns of local people that it's a health hazard.

    Which Thunder Bay?

    Premier kakos on
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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ok, after being jerked around by the dealer because they want to cover their ass and don't understand what they're doing... I can finally pick my car up on monday garunteed or I get my deposit back.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Ok, after being jerked around by the dealer because they want to cover their ass and don't understand what they're doing... I can finally pick my car up on monday garunteed or I get my deposit back.

    I was interested until the word 'car'

    TL DR on
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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You aren't aware of the dangers of flouride?

    Let me guess, you think it's good for you.

    Ludious on
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    _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    yes. as much as i scowl at alternative medicine and the suggestion by anyone that i try it, in fact i do utilize meditation and even spiritual practices specific to my religious faith as a way of positively affecting my psychological state, which in turn has a real effect on my physical health.

    but i also don't make illusions about that. i mean, i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith that i practice, but at the same time i also believe that if they were subject to real scientific examination inevitably the methods by which any successes they can achieve would be discerned, even if the effect itself turns out to be nothing but placebic.

    i don't feel a need to subject it to such scrutiny, however, so long as the success rate stays consistent to my individual usage and experience. outcomes are more important than method, for me.

    which makes me wholeheartedly reject other forms of alternative medicine specifically because my skepticism and negative attitude towards them would inevitably and knowingly spoil any positive placebo effect they may have for people who believe in them.

    i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side, and that works so i'll go with that

    i try to step outside that and it will just end up with me wasting my time on irrelevant things, probably to my detriment for foolishly placed hope.

    Does your medical condition render you incapable of cognitive dissonance? Because that would be the only explanation for the above post.

    "i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith"
    "i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side"

    So you believe in nonsense?

    Good times.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ludious wrote: »
    You aren't aware of the dangers of flouride?

    Let me guess, you think it's good for you.

    Fucking communists messing with my bodily fluids!

    Couscous on
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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    You aren't aware of the dangers of flouride?

    Let me guess, you think it's good for you.

    Fucking communists messing with my bodily fluids!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYgUi_f5yY

    Ludious on
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    ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    I now have proof that Thunder Bay is retarded.

    City Council held a vote (much publicized in the previous weeks due to the "controversial" nature of it and the dozens of people having an opinion on the "issue"). They voted not to add fluoride to the water system because of the concerns of local people that it's a health hazard.

    Which Thunder Bay?

    The one in Ontario.


    also, thx for the advice the other day, they changed my contract no problem.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_

    You are my antithesis.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_ wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    yes. as much as i scowl at alternative medicine and the suggestion by anyone that i try it, in fact i do utilize meditation and even spiritual practices specific to my religious faith as a way of positively affecting my psychological state, which in turn has a real effect on my physical health.

    but i also don't make illusions about that. i mean, i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith that i practice, but at the same time i also believe that if they were subject to real scientific examination inevitably the methods by which any successes they can achieve would be discerned, even if the effect itself turns out to be nothing but placebic.

    i don't feel a need to subject it to such scrutiny, however, so long as the success rate stays consistent to my individual usage and experience. outcomes are more important than method, for me.

    which makes me wholeheartedly reject other forms of alternative medicine specifically because my skepticism and negative attitude towards them would inevitably and knowingly spoil any positive placebo effect they may have for people who believe in them.

    i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side, and that works so i'll go with that

    i try to step outside that and it will just end up with me wasting my time on irrelevant things, probably to my detriment for foolishly placed hope.

    Does your medical condition render you incapable of cognitive dissonance? Because that would be the only explanation for the above post.

    "i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith"
    "i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side"

    So you believe in nonsense?

    Good times.

    i acknowledge that rationally, my own spiritual practices are inherently unscientific and do not hold to objectively measurable logical standards, and thus are impossible to quantify for others.

    as such, i consider it pointless to try to espouse them to others as legitimate or logical, because my reasons for doing them are anecdotal, subjective, and relative to my own personal experiences

    my successes with them and what they have given me is without question to me personally, but i also understand that it is within the realm of possibility (and entirely probable) that any positive gains from such practices are due to processes that are psychological and placebic in nature.

    as such, i am willing to shrug them off as "nonsense" and "unscientific hoodoo" even though i nonetheless do them and believe in their legitimacy, because it makes people more comfortable and allows them to converse with me without the apprehension that i am in some way attempting to espouse mysticism as legitimate practice that is objectively valid for everyone.

    i believe what i believe. i do the things i do because i believe in them. i don't bother explaining or trying to justify them to others, because i logically understand how absurd the notions and practices can be to an outside observer.

    however, so long as the consequences of these beliefs and actions continue to be positive, i don't see a rational reason to discontinue their practice. additionally, if their continued function is intrinsically linked to my sheer belief in their validity and that belief could be disrupted by scientific analysis showing they are worthless, i am comfortable in not doing so because i prefer the positive benefits even if they are only in my own head.

    Pony on
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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I am glad i don't drink the Koolaid and can serve as a Lighthouse, a shining beacon in the darkness that is this liberal echo chamber.

    Ludious on
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_ wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    yes. as much as i scowl at alternative medicine and the suggestion by anyone that i try it, in fact i do utilize meditation and even spiritual practices specific to my religious faith as a way of positively affecting my psychological state, which in turn has a real effect on my physical health.

    but i also don't make illusions about that. i mean, i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith that i practice, but at the same time i also believe that if they were subject to real scientific examination inevitably the methods by which any successes they can achieve would be discerned, even if the effect itself turns out to be nothing but placebic.

    i don't feel a need to subject it to such scrutiny, however, so long as the success rate stays consistent to my individual usage and experience. outcomes are more important than method, for me.

    which makes me wholeheartedly reject other forms of alternative medicine specifically because my skepticism and negative attitude towards them would inevitably and knowingly spoil any positive placebo effect they may have for people who believe in them.

    i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side, and that works so i'll go with that

    i try to step outside that and it will just end up with me wasting my time on irrelevant things, probably to my detriment for foolishly placed hope.

    Does your medical condition render you incapable of cognitive dissonance? Because that would be the only explanation for the above post.

    "i certainly believe in the spiritual and mystical aspects of my faith"
    "i will stick to my real drugs and real medical treatments, and do all my religious nonsense on the side"

    So you believe in nonsense?

    Good times.

    First of all, your first sentence is backwards. Second, consider Kurt Vonnegut's quote: "Live by the harmless untruths that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy." If Pony derives tangible benefit from spiritual belief, and yet does not allow that belief to override rational thought in making decisions, then he is utilizing perhaps the only personally beneficial form of religion.

    TL DR on
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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    _J_ wrote: »
    So you believe in nonsense?

    Good times.

    Everybody believes in nonsense. I remember seeing a discussion with a psychologist who would pay people 10 bucks to sign a document giving their souls to the devil and no one took the money.

    themightypuck on
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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Debris of an Automobile Giving Birth to a Blind Horse Biting a Telephone

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    what happened to that Chicken cop guy
    the cop thread needs more rage

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