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Mice are stupid. (The stunning conclusion p2)

FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Fuck.

So this morning there were like 10 wild turkeys in the backyard tearing up the lawn so I went out to chase them off. In doing so I noticed there was a scratching noise coming from under the grill cover. Not wanting anything to come flying out at me if I investigated I decided to ignore it and hope whatever it was left.

Cut to a few minutes ago and I hear the scratching again, so I gingerly remove the cover. Nothing. I lift the lid on the grill and there's a field mouse sitting on the rocks. Fucker. No big deal, I'll just chase him out.

But this mouse couldn't make it that simple. As I'm removing rocks it skitters around the bottom of the grill. I get to the final corner it's hiding in and see some of the fire retardant fibers from the grill cover tucked into the corner. Fucker was making a home in there. But that's not the shit. As I remove a bigger stone from over it the mouse flees from the corner and in the process knocks a fucking baby mouse out as it goes.

This shithead mouse has not only made a nest in the grill but also had babies in there. What the fuck.

On the one hand this is fucked up not only because the mouse has made an aggressive move into my territory, but also that's not sanitary in the grill, dammit. And on top of that I wage war with them during the winter when they try to live in my ceiling and I keep having to drive them out to the forest in humane traps.

On the other hand awwwwww.

So what do I do? Do I just make sure nobody uses the grill until the mice move out and then purge the thing with cleaner and fire? Do I try to trap the mother in a humane trap, nudge the babies in a box with some nesting material, put the mother in there, then drive them out to the forest? Do I turn the grill on and teach them a lesson? (Answer to that one is no, but they're lucky I love animals.)

Fucking mice.

(edit.. I'm leaning towards just making sure nobody uses the grill and letting them live their short, mousey babiness out until they're old enough to leave/be chased out. As of now they're kind of big but still hairless. It's just that as much as I like mice and all they're a nuisance and that shit is gross in my grill.)

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    As much as I also love animals, there comes a point where they cross the line.

    If I were in your shoes, I would take the whole grill out into the woods and dump it upside down, spilling both the rocks and the mouse nest. Pick up the rocks, and take your grill back.

    There is a chance the mouse fucked up your grill by tearing out all the fluffy material to use as its nest also, so you might want to inspect it after before firing it back up.

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  • DeadlySherpaDeadlySherpa Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Just move em to a corner of your yard and clean out your grill and run it hot before the next time you cook. Alternatively, kill them. You've killed many thousands of animals by proxy to maintain your standard of life, don't get squeamish now because you can see the blood on your hands this time.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Purge it with fire now

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    As much as I also love animals, there comes a point where they cross the line.

    You have to think of them as pests. Would you coddle roaches if they were doing the same? If you don't get them away from your house they'll become winter guests inside once it gets cold (as you know).

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You guys are cold as ice.

    Okay, so you've convinced me to not leave them alone. I've put some peanut butter in a humane trap and put it in the grill. I figure a mother mouse will probably be eager to eat so hopefully she'll go in before too long.

    I've got a small cardboard box set up with some paper towel in it and a plastic spoon standing by. When mother goes in the trap I'm going to remove the rest of the rocks and bottom grill piece and I'm going to spoon the mice into the box. Then I'm going to walk them down to the woods behind my house, open the trap, set it next to the babies, walk away, and hope the mother is willing to drag them off somewhere nearby rather than abandon them.

    I'll go back for the trap tomorrow and hopefully I won't be greeted by baby mouse corpses.

    (And yes I know I should take them further away but it brings with it other complications. Mouse wasn't in my house so I'm not as worried about it.)

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  • fmz65fmz65 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Don't mice sometimes eat their young? I mean... if you aren't going to kill 'em SOMEONE IS!

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  • TRICorpTRICorp Extraordinaire Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wild Turkeys? Mice? Its like the wild west!

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I used to have mice as pets when I was a kid so I'm probably a little more inclined towards civility with them.

    Though after just going out to check on it, hearing the mouse on the trap, lifting the lid a bit and seeing it sitting on the top plate looking at me, running off, and then finding the inside of my trap filled with mouse piss I do grow more churlish.

    I just can't outright condemn the babies to death because the mother is a stupid cunt.

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  • fmz65fmz65 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dude, kill the moms, take the babies as your own... BECOME WILBERT, WILBUR (Is that his name? I can't remember... that movie came out when I was like 7)

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    He had rats, though. Rats are more dangerous and make better weapons when you want to kill people than mice.

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  • fmz65fmz65 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Pff, but nothing cuter than mice babies? I dunno I've never owned mice... the only real interaction I've ever had with that family was a dissection of an owl pellet (had some sort of rodent in it) and when my 5th grade English teacher had a rat and I saw it pooping as it pressed it's butt against the glass cage and laughing...

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Update: So a lingering thought was that after taking the green, insulated grill cover off the grill exposing the matte black exterior that the sun was going to bake the mice inside. So I wheeled it around the corner to the shade. Then I looked inside and the mother was holding one of the babies in a corner away from the rest and the nest.

    So I said fuck it this is annoying and went inside and got a small toilet paper tube sized box to scare the mother into. I took out the rest of the outside rocks and removed the lower grill piece leaving her exposed. I set the box down and kind of tried to shoo her in there but she's dumb as a mouse and ended up dropping her baby in a corner and exited via the bottom.

    Now she's sitting on a thin piece of metal of questionable purpose under the grill and didn't seem inclined to be scared back into it.

    So rather than scare her away I left the box in there, closed the lid, and came back in. In 20 minutes I'm going back out there. If she's not sitting outside still I'm taping off the exits and this ends one way or another.

    I imagine she'll probably go back in once she calms down so I can force her into the box when she has no other exit and then the plan proceeds as normal. But if she's just decided to take off fuck it I tried. The babies are going in a box, then they're going down to the woods, then they can die a baby mouse's death abandoned by a stupid shitty mother who decided to nest in the most idiotic spot possible.

    (Really, what the fuck. If I hadn't heard her picking apart the grill cover for the fiber they all would have been cooked alive because they were completely out of sight at the bottom of the grill under the rocks.)

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  • fmz65fmz65 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    :( Zink of ze babies! You can have cute little mice babies and they will treat YOU as their mother... then you can inbreed them and sell them as snake food or something... PROFIT!

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Next to last update:

    Went back out and the mouse wasn't in sight. I taped up the holes on the bottom of the grill (pain in the ass) then opened the top. The mouse was in fact back inside. Idiot refused to be hardcore chased into the box, kept randomly grabbing babies from outside, pulling them under the burner, then moving them back to a corner.

    Oddly the mouse didn't seem to be super afraid of me really, it was more scared of me being aggressive. (It would calmly sniff my finger if I put it near it.) So given that I put the box entrance next to its nest, then for some reason when I stopped chasing her she kind of looked inside then crawled in to check it out.

    Snatched the box up, taped it shut, spooned up the babies (pain in the ass, they're all fragile and the bottom of the grill is covered in rust flakes and shit and I couldn't touch them with my hands for fear of my scent being on them), put them in the other box, and brought them down to the woods next to a big ass rock and a tree next to some flatland, some foresty area, and some swampy area. So the mouse has lots of real estate choice.

    Opened the mother's box, angled it so she'd have to run past her babies when she exited, and left to go clean up.

    I shall return to see what happened in a couple hours or so. Hopefully she'll drag them off to a better home.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FightTest wrote: »
    Then I'm going to walk them down to the woods behind my house

    If you want them to stay gone, drive them a good bit away. If you can walk it, they or their progeny will be back soon enough.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oldsak wrote: »
    If you want them to stay gone, drive them a good bit away. If you can walk it, they or their progeny will be back soon enough.

    See here's the thing. I live right next to a super woodsy area. Mice are around regardless of this one. The only problem with this one is that she tried to make a nest hidden inside a fucking grill.

    Really they don't pose any issue until it gets cold (I live in CT), but so long as I trap them immediately it doesn't turn into a problem. Two winters ago I started trapping mid-winter and had to catch probably a dozen or so. This past winter I put up traps as soon as I heard them and only ever had to deal with two.

    So it's not an issue of "shit you got mice around your place," it's an issue of, "random mouse picked the dumbest fucking spot to have some kids." Just a temporary solution for a temporary problem. Winter mice do get driven about a mile away to the state forest.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ha, well ok then. At least you found them before all your food started tasting like burnt fur.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    oldsak wrote: »
    Ha, well ok then. At least you found them before all your food started tasting like burnt mouse shit.

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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Figgy brings up a good point. You better clean that grill well; you don't want the hantavirus.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Would just turning the grill on kill any waning bacteria?

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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Probably.

    But I'd clean it first just to be sure. Or turn on the heat, let it cool, clean it, and then heat it again.

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  • KistraKistra Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Fun biological fact, hantavirus is in fact a virus and not a bacteria.

    Sunlight will kill viruses so you can also leave the grill open to the sun for a few hours tomorrow and not have to worry about being infected while you clean it. Grill heat should also kill both bacteria and viruses but theoretically it is possible to transfer some to the tongs or something that isn't getting cocked and get infected that way. (I would still clean it)

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  • fmz65fmz65 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Kistra wrote: »
    Fun biological fact, hantavirus is in fact a virus and not a bacteria.

    Sunlight will kill viruses so you can also leave the grill open to the sun for a few hours tomorrow and not have to worry about being infected while you clean it. Grill heat should also kill both bacteria and viruses but theoretically it is possible to transfer some to the tongs or something that isn't getting cocked and get infected that way. (I would still clean it)

    Getting cocked eh? Who ISN'T getting cocked these days...

    But in all seriousness, I for some reason am very interested in this story. Make sure to let us know what happens to these mice.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Turn the grill on

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  • virgilsammsvirgilsamms Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    On a related note, if those turkeys are pests and don't belong to anyone, they are delicious. If you feel up to killing, gutting and plucking them that is. Delicious.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Turkeys were back this morning. This time I actually ran at them instead of just kind of calmly shooing them away. Turns out they fly, which for some reason I didn't expect. Not going to kill them, just going to have to chase them when they show up.

    As for the mouse, as of a couple hours after relocation I went back down there yesterday and she was just huddled in the corner of the box with the babies. Sometime over the night though she, her babies, and her nesting material have all disappeared so I believe she's moved to a new home.

    So turkeys bad, mouse is good.

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FightTest wrote: »
    Turkeys were back this morning. This time I actually ran at them instead of just kind of calmly shooing them away. Turns out they fly, which for some reason I didn't expect. Not going to kill them, just going to have to chase them when they show up.

    As for the mouse, as of a couple hours after relocation I went back down there yesterday and she was just huddled in the corner of the box with the babies. Sometime over the night though she, her babies, and her nesting material have all disappeared so I believe she's moved to a new home.

    So turkeys bad, mouse is good.

    You should invite the turkeys over on Thanksgiving, see if you can't reconcile and get over your differences.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think you have some new pets!

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    For some reason I have this image of this guy in an oversized hat running around after the turkeys shooting a revolver into the air and dancing.

    I don't know why.

    I do.
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