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[EVE ON] EVE: Rokh Out With Your Cokh Out

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  • ToastToast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Toast wrote:
    Common term for that is "resident" if you're being nice or "pet"/"slave" if you're not, and it generally gets you lumped in with the claiming corp politically

    Goons following BoB policy for mega-pewpew? \m/ :twisted: \m/

    I'm down for that.

    What's BoB got to do with it? :P Most 0.0 alliances have residents, unless they're really hardcore carebears...

    Toast on
  • MadtownMadtown Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Thought the Eve sigs were pretty, did my best to replicate a similar style during the downtime. Any suggestions/changes?

    Also, can anyone sum up major events in the ASCN / BoB war? I was actually kind of interested in it before I left. I think at that point it was still really early, and ASCN had gained first ground basically through mass numbers/ships. By a brief glance of things it now looks like BoB winning is a foregone conclusion?

    Madtown on
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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Madtown wrote:
    Thought the Eve sigs were pretty, did my best to replicate a similar style during the downtime. Any suggestions/changes?

    Looks good except the EVE Online logo is a bit too small. Can't really read the 'online' bit. Otherwise :^:

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2006
    I have a question, why is the middle of the map unclaimed (I am not a player yet.) Is no alliance capable of taming it, or is not open or something?

    Unknown User on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    jakobako wrote:
    Also Szechuanosaurus: (whoa) I know what you mean exactly, I was figuring if you were afk hauling, then your time away from the keyboard is worth 0 so you'll be making more out of your mods for nothing. Of course this doesn't work with low sec space. But for a high sec guy with some time to spare it could make the guy extra isk.. after 10 or so trips it'll add up I suppose.

    Case in point:

    [img]http:///www.polymotional.com/forum/cash.jpg[/img]

    400,000 in two minutes!

    Granted, to put things in perspective I'm flying a Ferox BC which, along with it's fittings is probably worth around 40Mil so newbs wouldn't be able to make that much cash that quickly. I suppose if you are AFK then you might as well haul your loot to Jita to flog it.

    I'd say you should only need to do that maybe once though because once you have one or two million, you're probably better off investing in a small industrial ship and AFK hauling tradeable goods in bulk if you want to make money AFK (or AFK mining in high-sec, but I'm not convinced as to the marginal profits from such a venture). Problem with that is, you need the capital to get started buying up bulk trade goods at a cheap price, so ratting for a bit then flogging your loot in Jita might be a viable way to go about getting the start-up capital.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • ToastToast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Rygar wrote:
    I have a question, why is the middle of the map unclaimed (I am not a player yet.) Is no alliance capable of taming it, or is not open or something?

    That's Empire space, it's run by the NPC empires (Amarr, Minmatar, Caldari, Gallente) and as such it's pointless trying to claim it as you can't shoot people there without a wardec

    Toast on
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2006
    Toast wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    I have a question, why is the middle of the map unclaimed (I am not a player yet.) Is no alliance capable of taming it, or is not open or something?

    That's Empire space, it's run by the NPC empires (Amarr, Minmatar, Caldari, Gallente) and as such it's pointless trying to claim it as you can't shoot people there without a wardec

    And alliances don't declare war against its impossible to beat NPCs? Alliances like BoB don't have the power? Is the northeast open space Empire as well?

    Unknown User on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Rygar wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    I have a question, why is the middle of the map unclaimed (I am not a player yet.) Is no alliance capable of taming it, or is not open or something?

    That's Empire space, it's run by the NPC empires (Amarr, Minmatar, Caldari, Gallente) and as such it's pointless trying to claim it as you can't shoot people there without a wardec

    And alliances don't declare war against its impossible to beat NPCs? Alliances like BoB don't have the power? Is the northeast open space Empire as well?

    It's theoretically impossible to beat the NPC governments, although I think some dudes once held off some CONCORD ships at a high sec gate once via an exploit. But yeah, by and large no matter how big your ship if you start firing at anyone in high security space then you get ganked pretty quickly so an assault on one of the big governments is impossible and even if you did succeed it would be deemed an exploit and you'd immediately loose any ground you'd gained.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • uruloki2001uruloki2001 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006

    Now I know you... :evil: Eh, that teaches me to loot all the frigates when Cruisers are spawning ;)

    uruloki2001 on
    WoW - Elizabet, Queen Meatshield / Majer of the Chilly Toes
    EVE Online - Elizabet Loki
  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Rygar wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    I have a question, why is the middle of the map unclaimed (I am not a player yet.) Is no alliance capable of taming it, or is not open or something?

    That's Empire space, it's run by the NPC empires (Amarr, Minmatar, Caldari, Gallente) and as such it's pointless trying to claim it as you can't shoot people there without a wardec

    And alliances don't declare war against its impossible to beat NPCs? Alliances like BoB don't have the power? Is the northeast open space Empire as well?

    It's theoretically impossible to beat the NPC governments, although I think some dudes once held off some CONCORD ships at a high sec gate once via an exploit. But yeah, by and large no matter how big your ship if you start firing at anyone in high security space then you get ganked pretty quickly so an assault on one of the big governments is impossible and even if you did succeed it would be deemed an exploit and you'd immediately loose any ground you'd gained.
    That was in the m00 days. Basically CONCORD was destroyable and you didn't flag as a criminal for using support mods on someone else, so they just ubertanked someone and popped everyone coming into the system including CONCORD.

    BUT! You can attack and destroy the Empire faction NPCs orbiting the gates, and CONCORD won't respond. They hit hard, but they can be beaten. No idea if they drop good loot :D

    electricitylikesme on
  • coffeetablecoffeetable Registered User regular
    edited December 2006

    you'll like the triple 1.8 million isk battleship spawns of the south then.

    coffeetable on
  • TorrTorr Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Trial account user here with a question.
    On a trial account you cant transfer money from one character to another.
    I wanted to switch to a new main char and send all the money from my old one to him. I thought if i cant send it maybe i can get the money over there through the marketplace.

    My new main then offered to sell a drone for 15mil isk and my old main was suposed to buy said drone.
    Now the thing is the money never arrived at my new char but rather went to a char named Issy Tripline. Anyone here that can explain to me what happened?

    Torr on
  • Mickey EyeMickey Eye Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Torr wrote:
    My new main then offered to sell a drone for 15mil isk and my old main was suposed to buy said drone.
    Now the thing is the money never arrived at my new char but rather went to a char named Issy Tripline. Anyone here that can explain to me what happened?

    That sounds... odd. Could you possibly post a screen shot of your transactions screen and your journal screen?
    you'll like the triple 1.8 million isk battleship spawns of the south then.

    Yet another reason to train up for a Raven :(

    Mickey Eye on
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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    The tier 2 battlecruisers are pretty good at taking out battleship rat spawns.

    Especially the drake.

    Monoxide on
  • TorrTorr Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8117/20061227145858so1.jpg <---Transactions

    http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20061227145922ex8.jpg <---Journal

    I'm starting to think this is some sort of security device.

    This is the german client btw

    Torr on
  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Petition it. Also do a Show Info on Issy Tripline to see who that character is.

    electricitylikesme on
  • uruloki2001uruloki2001 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Mickey Eye wrote:
    you'll like the triple 1.8 million isk battleship spawns of the south then.

    Yet another reason to train up for a Raven :(

    Caracal goodness

    uruloki2001 on
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    EVE Online - Elizabet Loki
  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    The tier 2 battlecruisers are pretty good at taking out battleship rat spawns.

    Especially the drake.
    seriously, i only have average missile skills (Heavy at 4, Bombardment at 4, Precision and Prediction at 3, and none of the other supplementaries), and 7 launchers firing Scourge annihiliate mission BCs, so i figure NPC BSs shouldn't be much more work, especially with some bolstered skills.

    darleysam on
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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Mickey Eye wrote:
    you'll like the triple 1.8 million isk battleship spawns of the south then.

    Yet another reason to train up for a Raven :(

    Caracal goodness

    I don't think that setup would have as easy of a time against angel rats.

    If you wanted to try it though, angels do Exp/Kin/Therm damage, so you'd have to be untanked against one of the damage types. Then you'd just use explosive missiles instead of scourge. Might be able to take on some of the lower spawns.

    Monoxide on
  • OptimusWangOptimusWang Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    OptimusWang on
  • qwertyasherqwertyasher Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Cruisers/frigates aren't a good idea for ratting in the south. The battleships aren't a problem, you can out-transverse their guns and are small enough to not get hurt by torps, but cruisers and frigates, with their smaller missiles, can really hurt you bad. Stick with space whales/train ravens lawl.


    Torr wrote:
    http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8117/20061227145858so1.jpg <---Transactions

    http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20061227145922ex8.jpg <---Journal

    I'm starting to think this is some sort of security device.

    This is the german client btw

    I know exactly what happened here.

    Whenever you buy something off the market, it will always buy the cheapest one inside the criteria, no matter which one you selected to buy, so if there's two warrior I's for sale in a station, one for 25,000 isk and one for 13,500,000 isk. You'll buy the first one, even if you pay 13.5 million for it, even if you select the second sell order and buy from it. Sucks man, but there's nothing you can do about it except evemail the guy who you accidentally bought it from and see if he'll give it back.

    qwertyasher on
  • ToastToast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    Toast on
  • BremenBremen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Torr wrote:
    Trial account user here with a question.
    On a trial account you cant transfer money from one character to another.
    I wanted to switch to a new main char and send all the money from my old one to him. I thought if i cant send it maybe i can get the money over there through the marketplace.

    My new main then offered to sell a drone for 15mil isk and my old main was suposed to buy said drone.
    Now the thing is the money never arrived at my new char but rather went to a char named Issy Tripline. Anyone here that can explain to me what happened?


    If you buy an item on the market, you always get the lowest priced one available. In this case, it may be that Issy Tripline was selling a drone of the same type for 10k, and when you bought one for 15mil you got one of the ones Issy Tripline was selling. It's not a bug, it's intentional to keep people from using market orders for money laundering.

    incidently, I don't think Issy got all 15 mil, only 10k.

    Bremen on
  • nialscorvanialscorva Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bremen wrote:
    If you buy an item on the market, you always get the lowest priced one available. In this case, it may be that Issy Tripline was selling a drone of the same type for 10k, and when you bought one for 15mil you got one of the ones Issy Tripline was selling. It's not a bug, it's intentional to keep people from using market orders for money laundering.

    incidently, I don't think Issy got all 15 mil, only 10k.

    He probably got all 15mil. Basically a purchase is setting up a one-shot buy order for that price. That buy order gets filled by the lowest cost sell order at that station. I put up a lot of sell orders in a merchant hub and will occasionally get sales that are at prices that I undercut, eg a sell order for 10 mil will occasionally show up as 12 mil in my transaction log.

    You can transfer money this way, but you have to make sure you go to a station where no one else is selling the item you want to buy.

    nialscorva on
  • KaylBreinharKaylBreinhar Registered User new member
    edited December 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    I don't think that setup would have as easy of a time against angel rats.

    If you wanted to try it though, angels do Exp/Kin/Therm damage, so you'd have to be untanked against one of the damage types. Then you'd just use explosive missiles instead of scourge. Might be able to take on some of the lower spawns.
    It won't - it'll just end up in a dead Caracal. You're not going to want to rat in the south with anything less than a BC (and preferably a BS). Also, if you're not familiar with what damage to do against what kind of rat and what damage they dish out, http://npc.elfarto.com/ is a good site which works in the in-game browser.

    eveinfo's is more user-friendly to read and far more aesthetically pleasing, but good luck getting it to load properly in an HTML 2.0-only browser.

    Don't forget to salvage, too - we've got several Goons down here who are always looking for parts. The Angels drop parts for Projectile, Speed, and Shield rigs, and the Domination rats are known to drop some T2 rig parts occasionally.

    KaylBreinhar on
  • TorrTorr Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Whenever you buy something off the market, it will always buy the cheapest one inside the criteria, no matter which one you selected to buy, so if there's two warrior I's for sale in a station, one for 25,000 isk and one for 13,500,000 isk. You'll buy the first one, even if you pay 13.5 million for it, even if you select the second sell order and buy from it. Sucks man, but there's nothing you can do about it except evemail the guy who you accidentally bought it from and see if he'll give it back.

    That would explain why the sell order was still active even after my purchase.

    Man I ratted my ass off in a frig for that kind of money. Well I guess I'll have to delay my cruiser purchase for a week.

    Sorry for the slight thread derailing and thanks for the answers.

    Torr on
  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Toast wrote:
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    I've got a Nos Ishkur setup that was able to take on nice sized sansha spawns (Triple .95 Mill took awhile but was doable) and I can't make a dent in similar Angel ships. The good news is they can't hurt me either, I can tank them forever if I wanted to. I'm still using hammerheads and Hobgoblins though, so maybe a different drone and putting on a couple of turrets would let me break their tanks, but it still tanks long enough I'm gonna just stick to ratting with a partner.

    Neaden on
  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Neaden wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    I've got a Nos Ishkur setup that was able to take on nice sized sansha spawns (Triple .95 Mill took awhile but was doable) and I can't make a dent in similar Angel ships. The good news is they can't hurt me either, I can tank them forever if I wanted to. I'm still using hammerheads and Hobgoblins though, so maybe a different drone and putting on a couple of turrets would let me break their tanks, but it still tanks long enough I'm gonna just stick to ratting with a partner.


    Me and Tileal where doing that last night he would get agro with his AF and I would warp in after and rain cruise missles down on the Battleships (swapped them for Torpedos so it should go faster now) I will likely just rat with a partner , not sure how well my scorpions tank will hold vs torpedos'

    darkmayo on
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  • OptimusWangOptimusWang Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Neaden wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    I've got a Nos Ishkur setup that was able to take on nice sized sansha spawns (Triple .95 Mill took awhile but was doable) and I can't make a dent in similar Angel ships. The good news is they can't hurt me either, I can tank them forever if I wanted to. I'm still using hammerheads and Hobgoblins though, so maybe a different drone and putting on a couple of turrets would let me break their tanks, but it still tanks long enough I'm gonna just stick to ratting with a partner.

    Switch to drones that do explosive damage - I went from Ogres to Beserkers and it made a noticable difference.

    OptimusWang on
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    I don't think that setup would have as easy of a time against angel rats.

    If you wanted to try it though, angels do Exp/Kin/Therm damage, so you'd have to be untanked against one of the damage types. Then you'd just use explosive missiles instead of scourge. Might be able to take on some of the lower spawns.
    It won't - it'll just end up in a dead Caracal. You're not going to want to rat in the south with anything less than a BC (and preferably a BS). Also, if you're not familiar with what damage to do against what kind of rat and what damage they dish out, http://npc.elfarto.com/ is a good site which works in the in-game browser.

    eveinfo's is more user-friendly to read and far more aesthetically pleasing, but good luck getting it to load properly in an HTML 2.0-only browser.

    Don't forget to salvage, too - we've got several Goons down here who are always looking for parts. The Angels drop parts for Projectile, Speed, and Shield rigs, and the Domination rats are known to drop some T2 rig parts occasionally.

    ZOMG MAEK FALLOFF RIGS.

    Seriously, think Malestrom, w/Fusion @ 30km falloff

    Goumindong on
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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    The tier 2 battlecruisers are pretty good at taking out battleship rat spawns.

    Especially the drake.

    That is because the Drake is a god-damn tanking machine. It has teir 1 battleship level shield HP and MORE shield regen[by about 25%]

    I fly amarr and will probably move to a drake when i decide i really want to rat[its not exactly hard to train for, heavy missiles, a few passive shield tanking skills and im there]

    Goumindong on
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  • YoshuaYoshua Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    darkmayo wrote:
    Neaden wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    I've got a Nos Ishkur setup that was able to take on nice sized sansha spawns (Triple .95 Mill took awhile but was doable) and I can't make a dent in similar Angel ships. The good news is they can't hurt me either, I can tank them forever if I wanted to. I'm still using hammerheads and Hobgoblins though, so maybe a different drone and putting on a couple of turrets would let me break their tanks, but it still tanks long enough I'm gonna just stick to ratting with a partner.


    Me and Tileal where doing that last night he would get agro with his AF and I would warp in after and rain cruise missles down on the Battleships (swapped them for Torpedos so it should go faster now) I will likely just rat with a partner , not sure how well my scorpions tank will hold vs torpedos'

    Why are you ratting in a scorpion? I know it can be done, it's just not well suited for it to be honest. Raven's are ratting machines and it ought to pay for itself in a couple days of solid ratting (more or less depending on your available playtime and tolerance for the tedium of ratting).

    Yoshua on
  • YoshuaYoshua Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Goumindong wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    The tier 2 battlecruisers are pretty good at taking out battleship rat spawns.

    Especially the drake.

    That is because the Drake is a god-damn tanking machine. It has teir 1 battleship level shield HP and MORE shield regen[by about 25%]

    I fly amarr and will probably move to a drake when i decide i really want to rat[its not exactly hard to train for, heavy missiles, a few passive shield tanking skills and im there]

    I was kinda tempted when I saw Damnations and Sacrilage's are pretty damn cheap. I just don't want to spend two weeks training skills that I probably wouldn't use very often.

    Cross training to Caldari from Amarr would be painful. I have no missile skills and no real shield tanking skills (not much point when I am not fitting a shield tank, the shield is just a small buffer).

    Yoshua on
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited December 2006
    I'm considering popping back for a month or so until BC hits for WoW. What's the situation for PA people now?

    Echo on
  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Echo wrote:
    I'm considering popping back for a month or so until BC hits for WoW. What's the situation for PA people now?

    The Merch (the pirate one) has a few members, and MERCHI (the industrial one) is allied with GoonSwarm and living in both Hoshoun and Scalding Pass. Come back for a while, it's prime location for ratting and shooting people.

    And maybe if you come back it'll convince Orikae to rejoin goonswarm while he's off.

    Monoxide on
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Yoshua wrote:
    Goumindong wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    The tier 2 battlecruisers are pretty good at taking out battleship rat spawns.

    Especially the drake.

    That is because the Drake is a god-damn tanking machine. It has teir 1 battleship level shield HP and MORE shield regen[by about 25%]

    I fly amarr and will probably move to a drake when i decide i really want to rat[its not exactly hard to train for, heavy missiles, a few passive shield tanking skills and im there]

    I was kinda tempted when I saw Damnations and Sacrilage's are pretty damn cheap. I just don't want to spend two weeks training skills that I probably wouldn't use very often.

    Cross training to Caldari from Amarr would be painful. I have no missile skills and no real shield tanking skills (not much point when I am not fitting a shield tank, the shield is just a small buffer).

    It will require the missile skills(heavies+support) to 4[not a big deal], a few shield skills to 4(1 or two, not really sure you are going to passive tank anwyway)[also, not a big deal] and then caldari cruiser 3.

    1-2 weeks, tops.

    Goumindong on
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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Hey Goumin, what'd we make last night?

    Monoxide on
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited December 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    Come back for a while, it's prime location for ratting and shooting people.

    I reckon I might. Didn't really get to use my Ferox a lot before I quit the last time.

    Echo on
  • ToastToast Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Neaden wrote:
    Toast wrote:
    So I've been wondering this for a few days, and after getting my myrm popped yesterday by an LV camp I can't help but wonder: Could an Enyo or Ishkur rat reasonably well out in Scalding Pass?

    I'm thinking the small sig might save it from the torp volleys that were such a pain to deal with in the myrm, and with T2 blasters/drones my dmg should be enough to break their tanks.

    ...Or should I just fly the space whale up and nos the world to a slow, boring death?

    AFs are pretty good for ratting provided you can do the right damage types. Lasers vs Guristas is pretty much pointless, whereas lasers vs drones is killy-killy death-death. If you can tank properly and field the right kind of damage they're very effective ratting ships - they'll chew through frigs and cruisers without trying, and transversal means BS rarely actually hit them. Ishkur would probably be ideal as it can pick damage types.

    I've got a Nos Ishkur setup that was able to take on nice sized sansha spawns (Triple .95 Mill took awhile but was doable) and I can't make a dent in similar Angel ships. The good news is they can't hurt me either, I can tank them forever if I wanted to. I'm still using hammerheads and Hobgoblins though, so maybe a different drone and putting on a couple of turrets would let me break their tanks, but it still tanks long enough I'm gonna just stick to ratting with a partner.

    Switch to drones that do explosive damage - I went from Ogres to Beserkers and it made a noticable difference.

    This man speaks the truth - using therm drones vs NPCs with 60+ therm resist = lose, particularly when you could be hitting them in their 40+ exp resists for little extra effort. Four Valk IIs should rip through most Angel BS without trying, and yes, T2 drones really are worth it. I have a ratting Apoc with a flight of Vespa IIs and vs Guristas the Vespas kill BS faster than six mega beams with multis.

    Toast on
  • paulskpaulsk Registered User new member
    edited December 2006
    hay Merch:I buddies, welcome to Scalding Pass. Sorry I shot at you that one time in Hoshoun; TheKoolEagle made me do it :shock: (not really)

    paulsk on
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