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C-Z List Characters: DC & Marvel
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I was just reading the Dan Slott interview at Newsarama and the character Justice came up. I was all, "Who?" Marvel's sub-B-list characters kind of blend into this gigantic, nameless mass that spills over into titles only when cannon fodder or brief cameos are needed.
On the other hand, the DCU has a metric ton of wonderfully developed sub-secondary characters that will pop up and headline their own books (see: Seven Soldiers, Helmet of Fate) and/or get raped by Dr. Light.
If I'm wrong, which I rarely am, talk up some Marvel C-Z list characters and make me look like a fool.
On the other hand, the DCU has a metric ton of wonderfully developed sub-secondary characters that will pop up and headline their own books (see: Seven Soldiers, Helmet of Fate) and/or get raped by Dr. Light.
If I'm wrong, which I rarely am, talk up some Marvel C-Z list characters and make me look like a fool.
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What the hell is a Z-list character anyways? Commoner #12, issue 4?
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Concerning Gravity:
[spoiler:6279092d7c]I'm really sad that he died. I was hoping he would team-up with Speedball(Even though Civil War made that a nigh-impossiblity), they would have been a great team.[/spoiler:6279092d7c]
True, but all of us serious comic book nerds pretty much read everything of note by the Big Two, right?
Oh man, that is pretty sweet.
Yeah, but would a book featuring a C-List character be considered "of note"? I doubt back issues of Darkhawk, Araña, and even Great Lakes Avengers fall under that heading.
With the mere mention of the Great Lakes Avengers, I am summoned.
Gods among C-listers, they are.
I think DC's current advantage in C-listers and lower is that they've been getting lots of appearances lately, from the JLU to 52. It's not that they're better or any more developed, its just that DC has decided it's a good idea to drag them out of limbo and put them at the center of big events. Marvel has just as many good C-listers they could do the same with, they just haven't.
like Justice
real name vance astrovik
used to be captain marvel
killed his father accidentally, spent some time in the raft
was on the new warriors then got bumped up to the avengers with firestar
almost married firestar but broke up right before civil war started
seriously, I could do this all day
sorry
Probably how many books you're in? Show up in ~6 issues a year and you're B list, ~3 issues every 2 years and you're C list...
A black man can't be Sorcerer Supreme?
What DC kids would you stick into a Nextwave-style book? I do not know.
Anally.
I guess also you could say that Vance really did kill his father in the heat of passion while his dad was beating the crap out of him for being a mutie. I'm not sure, but did he end up pleading No Contest? At any rate, he accepted his guilt and did his time, which was the reason for the retarded name change.
The first twenty five issues of New Warriors, the Bagley/Niceza run were really fucking good. I liked them, anyway.
I'd totally write a book about those guys.
Slyde, a crappy Spider-Man villain had a great appearance in either the Marvel Age Spider-Man book, or Spider-Man Unlimited. He was basically a dude who could resist friction to an amazing degree, due to his experience with non-stick coating on cookware. During some bank heist, he confronted Spider-Man and basically just managed to annoy Spidey, before finally getting thrown in jail. At the end of the story as Slyde monologues to himself about how all his other 40-something friends are getting old, and he's still young and vital to take on Spider-Man, you realize that he's just doing the whole supervillain thing to feel young. He was later killed during Mark Millar's Enemy of the State.
All the Slingers were pretty cool. A group of college-aged kids with various gifts who were given powered suits by a forgotten golden age hero, the Black Marvel, and fought crime as a team. Each of the characters was really fleshed out and interesting. Following the series, Hornet, or someone wearing his armor, was killed during Enemy of the State by Wolverine, Prodigy got drunk and confronted Iron Man over the Registration Act, ending with his imprisonment, Ricochet joined Excelsior, and will soon be appearing in Loners, and Dusk was never seen again.
Really, Marvel has a lot of cool second stringers. I prefer DC's guys for the most part though, since they do actually get to do cool stuff every now and then.
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[spoiler:9eeb6ce5a1] Dusk is the new Iron-Man, post-Civil War. [/spoiler:9eeb6ce5a1]
I remember him from Silver Sable. Man, did that book give me infinite boners as a kid.
I love the reason he changed his name.
[spoiler:ea68c65c59]Spidey laughed at him.[/spoiler:ea68c65c59]
Eh, it's sort of an intangible, better left to a "you'll know one when you hear of one" kind of thing. Like, Superman and Spider-Man are A-listers. B-listers would pretty much encompass a lot of supporting characters and the like. If you've been an Avenger or Leaguer, there's a good chance you've made the B-list. Not always, though. Vibe is definitely C-list. Same with Wonder Man.
Egg Fu
Forbush Man
Typeface
D-Man
The Grizzly
Kangaroo
Razorback
White Rabbit
The Walrus
The Spot
Prosh
Widget
Bluebird
Martinex
Diablo
Cardiac
Man-Ape
Rictor
Pip The Troll
Gideon
Shiva
The U-Foes
Goldbug
Jocasta
Mockingbird
Molten Man
Hammerhead
Major Victory or Justice?
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Is he an active villain again? I thought I saw him in some big villain spread. I thought that was kind of odd since, the last time I saw him way back in the '90s, he was a reformed pseudo hero, protecting his sister and nephew Normie from Harry Osborn. What up with that?
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It just says Vance Astro.
I also have Ambush Bug and MODOK.
If you include him you've got to have Nightwatch. And why not Kain while we're at it.
I'm pretty sure he's retired or something.
The last I heard of Molten Man was in Ultimate Spider-Man, and he was just a rockstar dude in that.
He's being blackmailed to be a villain again using threats on said sister and nephew.