As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/

New Art Style For Archie (That's Not Manga)

OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
edited December 2006 in Graphic Violence
Archie Comics is once more messing with the formula, much like they have with shifting the art in Sabrina The Teenage Witch to a more mangaesque style. This time, artist Steven Butler will be trying his best to make the teens of Riverdale look more like you and me, starting off in a story in May 2007's Betty And Veronica Double Digest as well as it's cover. For a look at the cover as well as an explaination why, check out the link here.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=94511

Archiepage.jpg

Owenashi on
«1

Posts

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2006
    People read Archie?

    Garlic Bread on
  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Does anyone read Archie? I myself look to Spider-Man <3's Mary Jane for all my embarrassing teenage pseudo-drama. If Archie has anything going for it it's the nostalgia factor, and this move will kill that once and for all.

    And why does every Newsarama article I read have at least one typo?


    P.S. If they want to modernize Archie, how about updating the cast so it includes more than a bunch of caucasians sporting a variety of hair colors and complexions?

    robosagogo on
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Wow, I didnt even know Archie was still around.

    Hensler on
  • CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Keith wrote:
    People read Archie?

    I did, back in my youth.

    In my defense, I can only look back on the period in shame.

    Charmy on
    I have a twitter.
  • Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    If they're going to update the figures, they should probably update the coloring. Flats just aren't working on that cover.

    Toji Suzuhara on
    AlphaFlag_200x40.jpg
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Archie does extremely well in the market. They just do all of their business at the newstand.

    That said...why fuck with the art? It's classic.

    Furu on
  • klokklok Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    all that comes to mind when looking at that image is dawsons creek

    klok on
  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    klok wrote:
    all that comes to mind when looking at that image is dawsons creek

    Man, and I was just going to be witty and call him Archie Van Der Beek.

    kdrudy on
    tvsfrank.jpg
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I would like to live in Rivendale if only for the fact that everything seems to cost as much as it did in the 20's.

    Bloods End on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bloods End wrote:
    I would like to live in Rivendale if only for the fact that there's elves.

    Furu on
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Bloods End wrote:
    I would like to live in Rivendale if only for the fact that there's Liv Tyler.

    Bloods End on
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bloods End wrote:
    Furu wrote:
    Bloods End wrote:
    I want to have sex with Liv Tyler because she's hot

    Hensler on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler cuts right to the heart of the matter.

    Furu on
  • SnoogySnoogy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Furu wrote:
    I want to cut out Hensler's heart for Liv Tyler.


    Fixed

    Snoogy on
  • LRGLRG Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Betty and Veronica look like they are about to eat a small lunch and then go throw it up. The cartoony Betty and Veronica are hotter.

    Change sucks.

    LRG on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Veronica even has short hair for fucks sake. The hell.

    Furu on
  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    Oh man, I'd kill for some Betty and Veronica hentai.

    Terrorbyte on
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    Oh man, I'd kill for some Betty and Veronica hentai.

    I'm sure theres some around.

    Bloods End on
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    P.S. If they want to modernize Archie, how about updating the cast so it includes more than a bunch of caucasians sporting a variety of hair colors and complexions?

    Archie will soon be killed off and replaced by a chinese dude during Crisis of Infinite Prom Dates: Betty or Veronica?

    Munch on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Uh, there is racial diversity in Archie.

    Except for the core five characters, but that's like complaining a black person has never been Batman.

    Furu on
  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Munch wrote:
    robosagogo wrote:
    P.S. If they want to modernize Archie, how about updating the cast so it includes more than a bunch of caucasians sporting a variety of hair colors and complexions?

    Archie will soon be killed off and replaced by a chinese dude during Crisis of Infinite Prom Dates: Betty or Veronica?
    After peering through the professor's latest invention, Archie is shocked to discover an alternate continent populated by people just like him, only black.

    Colonialism ensues.

    robosagogo on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Chuckcltn.gif

    Furu on
  • hughtronhughtron __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    He looks like he's on his way to pitch his comic.

    hughtron on
    minisy3.gif
  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    All he needs is a bowtie and you have Jimmy Olsen.

    Damn gingers.

    Bad Karma on
    Xbox Live: Ornery Rooster
    PSN: OrneryRooster
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    hughtron wrote:
    He looks like he's on his way to pitch his comic.

    He's an artist.

    Furu on
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Munch wrote:
    robosagogo wrote:
    P.S. If they want to modernize Archie, how about updating the cast so it includes more than a bunch of caucasians sporting a variety of hair colors and complexions?

    Archie will soon be killed off and replaced by a chinese dude during Crisis of Infinite Prom Dates: Betty or Veronica?
    After peering through the professor's latest invention, Archie is shocked to discover an alternate continent populated by people just like him, only black.

    Colonialism ensues.

    I missed the 'r' in peering when I first read this post. It was much funnier that way.

    Hensler on
  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I stand corrected. There is, in fact, one black guy in Archie. He probably has black parents too, so that makes three.

    And God knows we don't need any more characters of that race, or any other race for that matter, to accurately reflect modern high school social environments.

    robosagogo on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Actually, he has a girlfriend, and there's several black incidental characters as well as well as Asian and Hispanics and Native Americans and Jesus christ what is wrong with you riding this racism horse it's fucking ARCHIE

    Furu on
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    I stand corrected. There is, in fact, one black guy in Archie. He probably has black parents too, so that makes three.

    And God knows we don't need any more characters of that race, or any other race for that matter, to accurately reflect modern high school social environments. No, just update the art style.

    I went to high school with only one non-white person. But he was adopted, so his parents were still white. And since I'm the only real reason that the comic industry exists, I think that basing Archie off of my high school is acceptable.

    Hensler on
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Look robosagogo, Riverdale is a nice town. And the people there want to keep it nice. You got me? Boy?

    Munch on
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You too, Munch?

    Listen, I read a lot of Archie when I was a wee lad of 7 or 8.

    Do you get it?

    Jughead is my Ted Kord.

    Furu on
  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Actually, he has a girlfriend, and there's several black incidental characters as well as well as Asian and Hispanics and Native Americans and Jesus christ what is wrong with you riding this racism horse it's fucking ARCHIE

    Archie started in the '40s, so it's bound to focus on characters of a certain background and race and reflect the values of that time period. And yeah, I guess one would expect them to add a black guy, a black girlfriend for him (he's certainly not going to date Betty or Veronica), and a few other ancillary characters of a variety of races instead of changing the core story structure to allow those characters to play more significant roles. It's all pretty predictable when other forms of entertainment have paid the same lip service to the need and desire for racial diversity in entertainment, and though it's slightly offensive it's hardly anything to get riled about (least of all when you're considering an established franchise that could be damaged by any true changes to its formula).

    I wouldn't have that much of a problem with it if Archie was still attempting to honor its original model complete with the original core set of characters and plotlines, and I didn't so long as that was the case. Now that they're seeking to update Archie and push it more so into the realm of realism, however, I do think it reflects a certain degree of ignorance when the publishers think all that would necessarily entail is changing the art. If Archie is meant to be such a versatile product that it can adapt to modern times, then its current creators ought to recognize that modern social circles aren't limited to quartets of white kids with '40s sensibilities masked by modern dress.

    robosagogo on
  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Owenashi wrote:
    Archie Comics is once more messing with the formula, much like they have with shifting the art in Sabrina The Teenage Witch to a more mangaesque style. This time, artist Steven Butler will be trying his best to make the teens of Riverdale look more like you and me, starting off in a story in May 2007's Betty And Veronica Double Digest as well as it's cover. For a look at the cover as well as an explaination why, check out the link here.

    http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=94511

    Archiepage.jpg
    "Just like you and me"

    If your girlfriend has a ten-inch waist

    Target Practice on
    sig.gif
  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Oh.

    Okay, then we actually pretty much agree that this is a horrible awful idea.

    Cool.

    Furu on
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It's about time for another "Archie Meets The Punisher".

    DarkPrimus on
    usnTyq4.jpg
    Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Actually, he has a girlfriend, and there's several black incidental characters as well as well as Asian and Hispanics and Native Americans and Jesus christ what is wrong with you riding this racism horse it's fucking ARCHIE

    Heh, thanks Furu. I had a 'eh' sort of night at work and reading this on my break gave me a good and much needed laugh. :)

    Owenashi on
  • bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    It's about time for another "Archie Meets Wolverine".

    Because he's in everything, amirite?

    bobgorila on
    I like my women how I like my coffee.

    Anally.
  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    bobgorila wrote:
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    It's about time for another "Archie Meets Wolverine".

    Because he's in everything, amirite?

    Might have already met him. Not like they've shown everything Logan's remembered yet.

    Owenashi on
  • TehChowdTehChowd Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Lrg wrote:
    Betty and Veronica look like they are about to eat a small lunch and then go throw it up.

    Man, you totally beat me to the punch on that one. I mean, in fairness, the old Betty and Veronica looked like 1940's pin-ups, which is also unrealistic, but seriously, what the shit? I mean, look at Betty's lips. They might as well say "Insert wang here." Oh well, at least their enormous, alien-like skulls and tiny boney frames will make it much, much easier when the writers finally decide to pen the Betty & Veronica/America's top model crossover.

    TehChowd on
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Well, this is supposed to be aimed towards younger kids and portraying the high school environment - unfortunately, that's what girls in high school today really look like.

    Hensler on
Sign In or Register to comment.