As a matter of fact I just love the idea for this storyline, it sounds so awesome and hopefully recaptures that military essence that VC1 had from time to time- of being, despite its animeness, a thoughtful and interesting look in how a military at war functions
:^: Granted, I haven't finished 2, but I'm definitely missing that aspect in it. The thing is VC1 was strength (graphics) upon strength (story) upon strength (gameplay), and VC2 is just strength (gameplay), with a story that is enjoyable, sometimes.
Also, just scraped my way through the epic April story mission, and Jesus, you guys were right about things getting crazy. I do kind of hope they improve the AI some in Vc3; as much as I really appreciated it, the enemy had a massive amount of fuck ups on its last few turns, which actually gave me the win. (And on a side note: It seems completely strange than the flamethrower turret should be able to one-shot stationary gatling turrets.)
Baldren was hilarious when I beat it. I just ran around in circles and didn't hit anyone.
thread five of a game series that has no (significant) online multiplayer. rare indeed
Mass Effect thread would like a word with you.
Though that's mostly 90+ pages of talking about Talis poopsacks.
Well yeah, I didn't disagree there
though seriously I'm trying to think of a game, or game series, without (significant) online multiplayer that has had five threads or more devoted to the subject
After buying a PS3 for Valkyria Chronicles, I can't justify buying a PSP as well. The wholesale move to PSP annoys me probably more than it should because of that.
That said I can't say I'm wholly convinced by their reasonings for it, either. Oh well.
After buying a PS3 for Valkyria Chronicles, I can't justify buying a PSP as well. The wholesale move to PSP annoys me probably more than it should because of that.
That said I can't say I'm wholly convinced by their reasonings for it, either. Oh well.
If anything, I can see them doing it from a cost perspective. For less cost in developing the game, they can hit a much bigger audience. Whether they can afford to make them on PS3 is probably secondary - the potential for actual profit is greater.
thread five of a game series that has no (significant) online multiplayer. rare indeed
Mass Effect thread would like a word with you.
Though that's mostly 90+ pages of talking about Talis poopsacks.
Well yeah, I didn't disagree there
though seriously I'm trying to think of a game, or game series, without (significant) online multiplayer that has had five threads or more devoted to the subject
ME, FF, SMT, and uh that's about it
Fallout. Fallout 3 thread went through... seven? eight? threads while I was curating it.
edit: I just counted, it was a whopping 14. And then more that Buttcleft did, but who cares about that guy amirite
Every single one of those elements of VC3 sounds fantastic. As much as I'm enjoying VC2, I'll be waiting on bated breath for a VC3 localization announcement, and am already looking forward to it a tiny bit more than what I'm actually playing. Oh well; if you can't be with the one you love ...
Pile me along with the camp that is disappointed by this.
I like my awesome RPGs on a console with high def graphics and visuals. Is that so much to ask for?
Especially the bullshit excuse Motoyama gave for keeping it on PSP.
"I think we'd need a wholly different idea for the PS3, not something where the gameplay's only been updated a little bit. The problem with that, though, is that I don't think such a game would be Valkyria any longer."
So... basically you're saying we can never have another PS3 VC, because to do a PS3 VC it would have to be so different it wouldn't be VC? You're a dick.
...oh, that is so going on the blog.
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The main problem is that I play with my portable systems the least. You'd think the fact it was portable would make it easier to play, but that isn't the case. I have a finite battery time, I have to be somewhere where I know I won't be interrupted, sometimes the screen smudges....
When VC1 was on PS3, I was into it from start to finish, rarely taking a break. I have yet to buy VC2 (mostly because I decided to use my limited funds on KH: BbS, which is an awesome game that everyone with a PSP should be playing).
Also, I highly doubt VC2 has the same awesome looking cutscenes to boot. I fucking hate downgraded sequels.
Also, I highly doubt VC2 has the same awesome looking cutscenes to boot. I fucking hate downgraded sequels.
VC1 already had slightly too many talking-heads and not enough full-3D scenes (although it was cool that even the talking heads were clearly the 3D models being rendered through CANVAS).
VC2 has less full-motion, more talking heads, and the talking heads are static portraits that represent interacting with other characters by tilting, sliding across the screen, and making other movements that wouldn't mean anything if the text wasn't telling you what was going on. And maybe now and then they change to another version that's exactly the same except for the face to show emotions (and each character has like... three of them).
As someone who plays (and enjoys) their fair share of dating sims and visual novels, it's not a mechanic I like seeing employed by other game types. Much less one with a precedent for having cutscenes without them.
I'm finding the repeated voice clips more annoying.
"Ahaha, ahahahaha!" SHUT UP AVAN. The renaming options are nice, though. (I named my tank Mako, in dual honor of the Avatar voice actor, and the craziest ride this side of the Milky Way)
Add me to the 'upset it's not on PS3' brigade.
Man, you guys have no IMAGINATION. I liked the moving boxes
I would have liked them more if they were animated in some fashion. At all. I don't mind talking head cutscenes, but when it's a completely static portrate that shifts between 3 or 4 poses, it kind of feels a bit lazy.
I haven't gotten round to even booting up VC2 yet because I have been busy with other games. Somebody spoil this for me though: Does the game mood ever become more serious like VC1 or is it happy go lucky throughout?
re: VC3 being on PSP, I am sure it will be a good game but hype definitely down now.
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I'm in... May, and the tone is still pretty peppy. I don't expect it to get serious.
That said, VC 3 is meant to be pretty dark. And it being on PSP... man, I don't mind at all. Nicer graphics would be nice, but I find the game perfectly suits a handheld.
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Pile me along with the camp that is disappointed by this.
I like my awesome RPGs on a console with high def graphics and visuals. Is that so much to ask for?
For me, its the idea of presentation. VC was like, "Oh shiiiiiiiiiit" when playing through. It had a convincing story, the story was well-told, the voice acting cast was top-freaking-notch, and it was the first time I saw 3D rendered anime-style characters that was actually great looking.
When VC2 was announced, I hated a lot about it. Almost everything about it appears to be that classic anime bullshit of young folks doing something meant for adults. Sure, VC had sort of the same thing going for it, but it also had the cemented idea that this was an unfortunate time of war and things were stark. VC2 appeared to be taking itself less seriously, especially with the apparent bunny-girl-Selvaria character (still don't know what the fuck is up with that). The characters are from a military academy thinger, and I'm suppose to believe that another war or conflict happens in the wake of VC1's events? The characters in VC1 came from all sorts of walks of life, that was another attraction.
So I equate the PSP to making things more 'kiddy,' less grown-up in presentation, which is completely ironic as fuck.
That VC1 took itself seriously was one of the game's biggest downfalls. It was unremittingly stupid, yet entirely unaware of that. It flip-flopped between the horrors of war and creepy fanservice beach parties with little to no notice. It wanted to be grown-up, but its central plot point was magical witch girls, and one of its characters is a pig with vestigial wings.
At risk of being unnecessarily insulting: If you think its story was convincing or well-told, you should probably close all your anime torrents and go read a book. Any book will do.
Valkyria Chronicles II is the better game in every respect, to me. It carries a lot of the first game's faults, but it doesn't do anything worse. It's certainly not a downgrade.
Plus I bought a used PSP-1000 for £30 and fuck y'all, for how cheap they can be the PSP is a good console with some amazing games. I am over the moon that the next Valkyria Chronicles is on a handheld, presumably with the same focus on pick-up-and-play that the second has.
I think sending the VC series to the psp was the logical (business-wise) step:
1. Console SRPG are a niche genre in the west. (The only titles the people play in the west are FPS and Madden).
2. In japan, the handhelds are insanely popular, so you're going to $ell more.
Also, I'm unable to understand why the people hate the psp so much.
I'm playing Metroid Other M and VC2 simultaneously, and both of their stories and writing have pushed so far past "generically bad" and into "aggressively terrible" that I've just given up and gone completely numb to terrible writing and plots in my games. Uncoincidentally, I'm back at grad school and getting back into lit for lit's sake. Outside of a scant few outliers, I honestly don't care what the story or writing of any game is nowadays; just give me some junk food and let me zone out for a while.
Also, I just did one of the paid missions in May and was pleasantly surprised to find the enemy actually captured my undefended base camp! I was so used to just not even bothering with defense that it was a nice change of pace.
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Of course it all roots back to Chance and him and the old sig brigade before I got into the act
(but don't tell him that he'll hang it over my head)
:^: Granted, I haven't finished 2, but I'm definitely missing that aspect in it. The thing is VC1 was strength (graphics) upon strength (story) upon strength (gameplay), and VC2 is just strength (gameplay), with a story that is enjoyable, sometimes.
Agreed. Zeri (and Zaka) aside, it's about time we had a Darcsen badass.
...edit:
It was you, me, Henroid and... I think Snugglesworth. I'm sure I'm missing someone, though. We seriously got the word out.
it's like night and fucking day, I kinda dread going back to VC1 after seeing all of the vast improvements to EVERYTHING VC2 brought to the table
Baldren was hilarious when I beat it. I just ran around in circles and didn't hit anyone.
Like playing MGS2 after 3. It's like, where the fuck is my CQC?
You guys are making me want to not go and play VC 1
thread five of a game series that has no (significant) online multiplayer. rare indeed
Mass Effect thread would like a word with you.
Though that's mostly 90+ pages of talking about Talis poopsacks.
Well yeah, I didn't disagree there
though seriously I'm trying to think of a game, or game series, without (significant) online multiplayer that has had five threads or more devoted to the subject
ME, FF, SMT, and uh that's about it
I mean, I own a PSP now, but none of my friends who love VC do.
I'm going to have to loan this fucker out so hard
Guys, any sales on VC2 still going? I missed the Kmart one because of poor.
That said I can't say I'm wholly convinced by their reasonings for it, either. Oh well.
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If anything, I can see them doing it from a cost perspective. For less cost in developing the game, they can hit a much bigger audience. Whether they can afford to make them on PS3 is probably secondary - the potential for actual profit is greater.
Can't say I wouldn't have liked another iteration of the game on PS3, but this is sounding rad as hell and I don't even care.
Fallout. Fallout 3 thread went through... seven? eight? threads while I was curating it.
edit: I just counted, it was a whopping 14. And then more that Buttcleft did, but who cares about that guy amirite
Pile me along with the camp that is disappointed by this.
I like my awesome RPGs on a console with high def graphics and visuals. Is that so much to ask for?
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Especially the bullshit excuse Motoyama gave for keeping it on PSP.
"I think we'd need a wholly different idea for the PS3, not something where the gameplay's only been updated a little bit. The problem with that, though, is that I don't think such a game would be Valkyria any longer."
So... basically you're saying we can never have another PS3 VC, because to do a PS3 VC it would have to be so different it wouldn't be VC? You're a dick.
...oh, that is so going on the blog.
When VC1 was on PS3, I was into it from start to finish, rarely taking a break. I have yet to buy VC2 (mostly because I decided to use my limited funds on KH: BbS, which is an awesome game that everyone with a PSP should be playing).
Also, I highly doubt VC2 has the same awesome looking cutscenes to boot. I fucking hate downgraded sequels.
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VC1 already had slightly too many talking-heads and not enough full-3D scenes (although it was cool that even the talking heads were clearly the 3D models being rendered through CANVAS).
VC2 has less full-motion, more talking heads, and the talking heads are static portraits that represent interacting with other characters by tilting, sliding across the screen, and making other movements that wouldn't mean anything if the text wasn't telling you what was going on. And maybe now and then they change to another version that's exactly the same except for the face to show emotions (and each character has like... three of them).
So basically it's exactly like a dating sim.
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"Ahaha, ahahahaha!" SHUT UP AVAN. The renaming options are nice, though. (I named my tank Mako, in dual honor of the Avatar voice actor, and the craziest ride this side of the Milky Way)
Add me to the 'upset it's not on PS3' brigade.
Suck my fucking cock, Sega. Suck it. Suck it and then I will kick you in the nuts until you bleed to death.
I would have liked them more if they were animated in some fashion. At all. I don't mind talking head cutscenes, but when it's a completely static portrate that shifts between 3 or 4 poses, it kind of feels a bit lazy.
re: VC3 being on PSP, I am sure it will be a good game but hype definitely down now.
That said, VC 3 is meant to be pretty dark. And it being on PSP... man, I don't mind at all. Nicer graphics would be nice, but I find the game perfectly suits a handheld.
And from what I gathered in later months a little bit more serious.
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For me, its the idea of presentation. VC was like, "Oh shiiiiiiiiiit" when playing through. It had a convincing story, the story was well-told, the voice acting cast was top-freaking-notch, and it was the first time I saw 3D rendered anime-style characters that was actually great looking.
When VC2 was announced, I hated a lot about it. Almost everything about it appears to be that classic anime bullshit of young folks doing something meant for adults. Sure, VC had sort of the same thing going for it, but it also had the cemented idea that this was an unfortunate time of war and things were stark. VC2 appeared to be taking itself less seriously, especially with the apparent bunny-girl-Selvaria character (still don't know what the fuck is up with that). The characters are from a military academy thinger, and I'm suppose to believe that another war or conflict happens in the wake of VC1's events? The characters in VC1 came from all sorts of walks of life, that was another attraction.
So I equate the PSP to making things more 'kiddy,' less grown-up in presentation, which is completely ironic as fuck.
At risk of being unnecessarily insulting: If you think its story was convincing or well-told, you should probably close all your anime torrents and go read a book. Any book will do.
Valkyria Chronicles II is the better game in every respect, to me. It carries a lot of the first game's faults, but it doesn't do anything worse. It's certainly not a downgrade.
Plus I bought a used PSP-1000 for £30 and fuck y'all, for how cheap they can be the PSP is a good console with some amazing games. I am over the moon that the next Valkyria Chronicles is on a handheld, presumably with the same focus on pick-up-and-play that the second has.
Maybe this time they'll give the girls pants.
I take it you haven't seen the scans.
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Or maybe it'll be like VC1 where only the unique characters have awful outfits.
1. Console SRPG are a niche genre in the west. (The only titles the people play in the west are FPS and Madden).
2. In japan, the handhelds are insanely popular, so you're going to $ell more.
Also, I'm unable to understand why the people hate the psp so much.
Also, I just did one of the paid missions in May and was pleasantly surprised to find the enemy actually captured my undefended base camp! I was so used to just not even bothering with defense that it was a nice change of pace.
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