By keeping the mana costs really low (half the creatures in this draft are 2 mana or less & all the enchatments are 1 mana except for Pacifism which is 2), you can get away with less land. Less land means more spells which can help offset the possible card disadvantage inherent in creature enchantments. As a nice bonus, Mesa Enchantress tends to be valued very lowly (got it 5th pick) and in this deck, it should actually be a decent draw engine.
I don't see going under 15 lands on MTGO ever being a sensible idea, no matter the curve. I would expect to mull to 5 regularly and end up with a hand of 5 land.
Anyone around to play? I want to test my league deck and see how bad it is.
how can your deck be bad, with crazy your pull was!
Shh I'm trying to be modest. :P
Current make-up is W/U with a splash of black. If it doesn't work well (I'm only running 11 creatures), I'm going to switch over to W/U.
Foomy: Unfortunately I'm working until 10pm EST tonight, but if I'm able to get on tonight, I'll def be up for testing our decks.
I will be on around 7-8 PM PST if you want to test our decks, since i need to test mine too.
once the servers come back up I'll just keep mtgo open and look at it occasionaly as I do other things, anyone who wants to try out decks/just have a few games just send me a msg in game
We have basically identical pools/builds. Change Child of Night to another Dread Warlock, Gorgon Flail to Magebane Armor, Assassinate to Tendrils of Corruption, and Mist Leopard to Windstorm and Voila!
ChaosHatHop, hop, hop, HA!Trick of the lightRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
I am just getting fucking destroyed. First game round 2, the guy gets out fucking Royal Assassin turn 3, which basically just cripples my offense. I get Great Sable Stag but can't race his Howling Banshee, Dread Warlock and some dude with swampwalk.
Game three, he boards in white, pacifies my Stag, and I forget that I can't regenerate during the combat damage step so I lose Drudge Skeletons. I proceed to draw 2/3rds of the mana in the deck.
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ChaosHatHop, hop, hop, HA!Trick of the lightRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
Thing is my deck seems like it should be pretty decent. It's no white monstrosity of evil, but come on. My draws are pretty shitty, but there's just not much I can do about that.
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Tiger BurningDig if you will, the pictureRegistered User, SolidSaints Tuberegular
Always, always, buy the stuff needed for events in advance. Particularly if you want to play the first day or two of release events.
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ChaosHatHop, hop, hop, HA!Trick of the lightRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
I fucking hate this game so much sometimes. Drew doom blade ONCE. EVER. Two in the deck, drew it once the whole time. 0-3, not even bothering with the last fucking match. I think I didn't mulligan one game, maaaaybe two. Despite having what, 17 mana sources or something, I got 1 mana hands all over the fucking place. I don't think I saw the black half of the deck actually. It might as well not have existed except for Drudge Skeletons and some swamps.
I thought about trying to navigate another sealed pool, but fuck it. The format clearly hates me and I sure as fuck hate it. I'm going to go blow all the money I was going to do on a sealed pool and spend it on some drafts.
The icing on the cake? I would love to sell GSS but can't since it's a bomby card in my sealed pool. I couldn't even get any cards at all that I want for an actual constructed deck.
Edit: I think I might sell it anyways while prices are inflated.
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
My pool this time:
White
2x Griffin Sentinel
White Knight
Silvercoat Lion
Blinding Mage
Siege Mastodon
2x Veteran Swordsmith
Wall of Faith
Open the Vaults
Excommunicate
Glorious Charge
Holy Strength
Divine Verdict
Indestructibility
Celestial Purge
Black
Zombie Goliath
Relentless Rats
2x Warpath Ghoul
Vampire Aristocrat
Megrim
Looming Shade
Kelinore Bat
Black Knight
2x Child of Night
Drudge Skeletons
Xathrid Demon
Doom Blade
Disentomb
Consume Spirit
Green
Birds of Paradise
Runeclaw Bear
Elvish Visionary
Awakener Druid
3x Giant Spider
Stampeding Rhino
Bramble Creeper
Craw Wurm
I'm looking at a Green/Black deck, black for the damage/heal instants and the Demon and green for the nice defense against fliers and the insane number of enchants. Thoughts?
Black
Zombie Goliath
Relentless Rats
2x Warpath Ghoul
Vampire Aristocrat
Megrim
Looming Shade
Kelinore Bat
Black Knight
2x Child of Night
Drudge Skeletons
Xathrid Demon
Doom Blade
Disentomb
Consume Spirit
Green
Birds of Paradise
Runeclaw Bear
Elvish Visionary
Awakener Druid
3x Giant Spider
Stampeding Rhino
Bramble Creeper
Craw Wurm
I'm looking at a Green/Black deck, black for the damage/heal instants and the Demon and green for the nice defense against fliers and the insane number of enchants. Thoughts?
nice pool.
green/black will work. you might also want to look at white/blue or black/blue, both your w and b pools have a lot of nice creatures in it, and your blue is chocked full of great spells (3 counters, 2 divinations, 2 ponders so you can get those cards you need, and a few creature control).
your red pool has some ok burn in it, but it's all the expensive kind, and it's creatures aren't that great so probably count that out
AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
Yea, I liked blue for the counters but there's only 3 of them without creature support. I'd have to go full green or full black just for the creatures and little else. I might try Blue/Black though.
Is there an easy way to get your card list into plain-text? I don't really want to type out each card manually and I'd like to see what you guys would do with this pool.
Black
Zombie Goliath
Relentless Rats
2x Warpath Ghoul
Vampire Aristocrat
Megrim
Looming Shade
Kelinore Bat
Black Knight
2x Child of Night
Drudge Skeletons
Xathrid Demon
Doom Blade
Disentomb
Consume Spirit
Green
Birds of Paradise
Runeclaw Bear
Elvish Visionary
Awakener Druid
3x Giant Spider
Stampeding Rhino
Bramble Creeper
Craw Wurm
I'm looking at a Green/Black deck, black for the damage/heal instants and the Demon and green for the nice defense against fliers and the insane number of enchants. Thoughts?
GB with a splash of red for fireball (1 mountain + BoP + 2 Rampant Growth should be plenty to support it) looks like the way to go.
AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
Pointless really. Every other player's draw always seems to have the perfect cards, drawing them at the right time, never needing a mulligan. 0-2 so far.
Is there an easy way to get your card list into plain-text? I don't really want to type out each card manually and I'd like to see what you guys would do with this pool.
Save as. In the save as dialog box, there should be a drop box that says "Net Deck" or something. Go down to "local text deck."
Woah, Nisi, you have to go BU. Your white, red, and green aren't anything special, but in blue, you have 3 awesome bombs - Air Elemental, Time Warp, and Mind Control - along with several great spells like Levitation, the Merfolk Looters (which are especially good with all your Gravediggers), and Ponder.
Here's the deck I would run:
-16 Land-
9 Swamp
7 Island
-17 Creatures-
2 Child of Night 1B
Aluring Siren 1U
2 Merfolk Looter 1U
2 Black Knight BB
Dread Warlock 1BB
Wind Drake 2U
Wall of Bone 2B
Warpath Ghoul 2B
3 Gravedigger 3B
Air Elemental 3UU
Nightmare 5B
Platinum Angel 7
-7 Non-creature Spells-
*Ponder U
*Cancel 1UU
*Doom Blade 1B
*Weakness B
*Levitation 2UU
*Mind Control 3UU
*Time Warp 3UU
Seriously, this is quite possibly the strongest UB deck I've seen in this sealed format. I'm envious.
Yeah, I think I picked white cause of the indestructible combo with the angel, that and theres some decent removal/pseudo removal in it. I'm still pretty new and bad at deck building though
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It reminded me of your deck :P
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
It starts as soon as the servers come back up today.
2 Soul Warden W
Blinding Mage 1W
Stormfront Pegasus 1W
Child of Night 1B
Drudge Skeleton 1B
2 White Knight WW
Veteran Armorsmith WW
3 Griffin Sentinel 2W
Kelinore Bat 2B
Mesa Enchantress 1WW
Dread Warlock 1BB
Guardian Seraph 2WW
Serra Angel 3WW
-17 creatures-
3 Unholy Strength
2 Holy Strength
2 Pacifism
Weakness
-8 Enchantments-
Safe Passage
Glorious Charge
-2 Instants-
7 Plains
6 Swamp
-13 Lands-
By keeping the mana costs really low (half the creatures in this draft are 2 mana or less & all the enchatments are 1 mana except for Pacifism which is 2), you can get away with less land. Less land means more spells which can help offset the possible card disadvantage inherent in creature enchantments. As a nice bonus, Mesa Enchantress tends to be valued very lowly (got it 5th pick) and in this deck, it should actually be a decent draw engine.
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I will be on around 7-8 PM PST if you want to test our decks, since i need to test mine too.
once the servers come back up I'll just keep mtgo open and look at it occasionaly as I do other things, anyone who wants to try out decks/just have a few games just send me a msg in game
Currently DMing: None
Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
1 Giant Growth
1 Entangling Vines
1 Stampeding Rhino
1 Looming Shade
1 Cemetery Reaper
1 Ant Queen
1 Great Sable Stag
1 Regenerate
1 Child of Night
1 Dread Warlock
1 Vampire Aristocrat
7 Forest
1 Assassinate
2 Llanowar Elves
1 Wall of Bone
1 Drudge Skeletons
1 Black Knight
2 Doom Blade
1 Mist Leopard
1 Borderland Ranger
1 Unholy Strength
1 Gorgon Flail
1 Deadly Recluse
Sideboard
1 Capricious Efreet
2 Pacifism
1 Firebreathing
1 Prized Unicorn
1 Mountain
1 Lightning Elemental
2 Forest
1 Yawning Fissure
1 Centaur Courser
1 Act of Treason
1 Island
1 Jackal Familiar
2 Celestial Purge
1 Stone Giant
1 Unsummon
1 Berserkers of Blood Ridge
1 Cancel
1 Lava Axe
2 Acolyte of Xathrid
1 Mind Shatter
2 Negate
1 Telepathy
1 Forest
1 Warp World
1 Armored Ascension
2 Disentomb
1 Wall of Bone
1 Angel's Mercy
2 Soul Warden
1 Glorious Charge
1 Sage Owl
1 Lifelink
1 Merfolk Looter
1 Goblin Piker
2 Palace Guard
1 Wall of Fire
1 Mind Control
1 Demon's Horn
1 Fabricate
1 Veteran Swordsmith
2 Sleep
1 Essence Scatter
1 Angel's Feather
1 Kraken's Eye
1 Shatter
1 Divine Verdict
1 Forest
1 Griffin Sentinel
1 Serpent of the Endless Sea
1 Zephyr Sprite
1 Naturalize
1 Mountain
1 Kindled Fury
1 Veteran Armorsmith
1 Snapping Drake
2 Emerald Oryx
1 Ice Cage
HA!
We have basically identical pools/builds. Change Child of Night to another Dread Warlock, Gorgon Flail to Magebane Armor, Assassinate to Tendrils of Corruption, and Mist Leopard to Windstorm and Voila!
Oh, and I didn't pull a GSS.
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
Game three, he boards in white, pacifies my Stag, and I forget that I can't regenerate during the combat damage step so I lose Drudge Skeletons. I proceed to draw 2/3rds of the mana in the deck.
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
I'm going to join as soon as my cards arrive. Apparently store lag is currently an hour.
I thought about trying to navigate another sealed pool, but fuck it. The format clearly hates me and I sure as fuck hate it. I'm going to go blow all the money I was going to do on a sealed pool and spend it on some drafts.
The icing on the cake? I would love to sell GSS but can't since it's a bomby card in my sealed pool. I couldn't even get any cards at all that I want for an actual constructed deck.
Edit: I think I might sell it anyways while prices are inflated.
2x Griffin Sentinel
White Knight
Silvercoat Lion
Blinding Mage
Siege Mastodon
2x Veteran Swordsmith
Wall of Faith
Open the Vaults
Excommunicate
Glorious Charge
Holy Strength
Divine Verdict
Indestructibility
Celestial Purge
Blue
Illusionary Servant
Sage Owl
Coral Merfolk
Sleep
Disorient
Cancel
Fabricate
2x Divination
Negate
Flasfreeze
Tome Scour
2x Ponder
Black
Zombie Goliath
Relentless Rats
2x Warpath Ghoul
Vampire Aristocrat
Megrim
Looming Shade
Kelinore Bat
Black Knight
2x Child of Night
Drudge Skeletons
Xathrid Demon
Doom Blade
Disentomb
Consume Spirit
Green
Birds of Paradise
Runeclaw Bear
Elvish Visionary
Awakener Druid
3x Giant Spider
Stampeding Rhino
Bramble Creeper
Craw Wurm
Nature's Spiral
Giant Growth
2x Rampant Growth
Naturalize
Oakenform
Might of Oaks
Bountiful Harvest
Overrun
Red
2x Beserkers of the Blood Ridge
Inferno Elemental
Dragon Welp
Canyon Minotaur
Fiery Hellhound
Viashino Spearhunter
Goblin Piker
Jackal Familiar
Fireball
Yawning Fissure
2x Lava Axe
Manabarbs
Ignite Disorder
Act of Treason
Seismic Strike
I'm looking at a Green/Black deck, black for the damage/heal instants and the Demon and green for the nice defense against fliers and the insane number of enchants. Thoughts?
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
nice pool.
green/black will work. you might also want to look at white/blue or black/blue, both your w and b pools have a lot of nice creatures in it, and your blue is chocked full of great spells (3 counters, 2 divinations, 2 ponders so you can get those cards you need, and a few creature control).
your red pool has some ok burn in it, but it's all the expensive kind, and it's creatures aren't that great so probably count that out
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
Currently DMing: None
Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
GB with a splash of red for fireball (1 mountain + BoP + 2 Rampant Growth should be plenty to support it) looks like the way to go.
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Until the morning of the 21st. Plenty of time to get some events in.
[edit]*Actually prerelease is over. These are the release events.
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Characters
[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
Save as. In the save as dialog box, there should be a drop box that says "Net Deck" or something. Go down to "local text deck."
Post it. We might see something you don't.
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The Deck
Artifact:
1 Platinum Angel
Black:
1 Doom Blade
2 Child of Night
1 Dread Warlock
1 Solemn Offering
1 Wall of Bone
2 Black Knight
9 Swamp
1 Weakness
1 Acolyte of Xathrid
1 Nightmare
White:
1 Indestructibility
2 Divine Verdict
2 Griffin Sentinel
8 Plains
1 Pacifism
1 Glorious Charge
2 Blinding Mage
1 Soul Warden
1 Harm's Way
The Pool
Artifact:
1 Angel's Feather
1 Spellbook
Black:
3 Gravedigger
1 Mind Rot
1 Soul Bleed
1 Warpath Ghoul
Blue:
1 Air Elemental
1 Alluring Siren
2 Cancel
1 Coral Merfolk
2 Divination
1 Jump
2 Merfolk Looter
1 Merfolk Sovereign
1 Levitation
1 Mind Control
1 Ponder
1 Serpent of the Endless Sea
1 Time Warp
1 Tome Scour
1 Zephyr Sprite
1 Wind Drake
Green:
1 Stampeding Rhino
2 Rampant Growth
1 Regenerate
1 Borderland Ranger
1 Bountiful Harvest
1 Bramble Creeper
1 Elvish Visionary
1 Entangling Vines
1 Fog
1 Giant Spider
1 Overrun
1 Mold Adder
1 Prized Unicorn
1 Windstorm
Red:
2 Act of Treason
1 Burning Inquiry
1 Dragon Whelp
1 Fiery Hellhound
1 Goblin Piker
1 Jackal Familiar
1 Kindled Fury
1 Lightning Elemental
1 Panic Attack
1 Shatter
1 Sparkmage Apprentice
1 Wall of Fire
White:
3 Angel's Mercy
1 Undead Slayer
1 Veteran Armorsmith
Land:
1 Gargoyle Castle
Figured I'd move this post here so it wasn't on the previous page. Any advice?
1 Serra Angel
1 Stormfront Pegasus
2 Lifelink
1 Blinding Mage
1 Griffin Sentinel
1 Undead Slayer
1 Veteran Swordsmith
1 Pacifism
1 Holy Strength
1 Excommunicate
2 Safe Passage
1 Angel's Mercy
BLUE
1 Wind Drake
1 Clone
1 Sage Owl
1 Merfolk Looter
2 Illusionary Servant
1 Horned Turtle
1 Wall of Frost
1 Snapping Drake
1 Alluring Siren
1 Fabricate
1 Convincing Mirage
1 Disorient
1 Cancel
1 Negate
1 Ponder
RED
1 Stone Giant
1 Inferno Elemental
1 Jackal Familiar
1 Viashino Spearhunter
1 Berserkers of Blood Ridge
1 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Fireball
2 Trumpet Blast
1 Burning Inquiry
2 Seismic Strike
1 Act of Treason
1 Panic Attack
1 Burst of Speed
1 Manabarbs
1 Kindled Fury
BLACK
2 Warpath Ghoul
1 Nightmare
1 Acolyte of Xathrid
1 Child of Night
1 Bog Wraith
2 Kelinore Bat
1 Hypnotic Specter
1 Black Knight
1 Tendrils of Corruption
1 Sign in Blood
1 Doom Blade
1 Soul Bleed
1 Consume Spirit
2 Weakness
GREEN
2 Bramble Creeper
1 Mold Adder
1 Prized Unicorn
1 Runeclaw Bear
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Giant Spider
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Craw Wurm
2 Deadly Recluse
2 Oakenform
1 Bountiful Harvest
1 Regenerate
OTHER
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Angel's Feather
1 Dragon's Claw
1 Demon's Horn
1 Gorgon Flail
I went WU with it and didn't do too poorly but I'm curious what other people would have done.
Here's the deck I would run:
-16 Land-
9 Swamp
7 Island
-17 Creatures-
2 Child of Night 1B
Aluring Siren 1U
2 Merfolk Looter 1U
2 Black Knight BB
Dread Warlock 1BB
Wind Drake 2U
Wall of Bone 2B
Warpath Ghoul 2B
3 Gravedigger 3B
Air Elemental 3UU
Nightmare 5B
Platinum Angel 7
-7 Non-creature Spells-
*Ponder U
*Cancel 1UU
*Doom Blade 1B
*Weakness B
*Levitation 2UU
*Mind Control 3UU
*Time Warp 3UU
Seriously, this is quite possibly the strongest UB deck I've seen in this sealed format. I'm envious.
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