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It was a trap! X-Wing/TIE Fighter info not coming soon?
I love the progression of the Tie Fighter expansions.
Sick of your TIE Advance eh, even though it is a total badass shit kicker and more than good enough for Vader. Ok, here's the TIE DEFENDER, go kick some pirate ass.
A few campaigns later: Oh no, pirates/rogue imperials stole all our TIE Defender plants, I guess the Imperial Navy, with near unimaginable and limitless resources can't make any more, go use a TIE/A for a bit.
Next EXPASNION:
Oh shit, here you go Mr. Awesome Pilot, have the unstoppable Missile Boat.
Few missions later.
Rogue Imperials again blew up all production lines, we're sending the last few to the Emperor for his awesome stash of sweet loot, perfect for a RPG storyline years later set during the Thrawn Trilogy. Have fun beating a class ii Star Destroyer or two in your TIE/A! :P:P
Truth be told, some of the TIE Fighter expansion missions got a bit frantic. I think the first mission of the second expansion threw you and your wingman, both in TIE/Ds, as the only imps to cover an evac from a sector. Two fighters.. covering four or five stations worth of evacuees from everything the game threw at you. Ugh... Things only got worse when they put you in a missile boat. Any time in a missile boat almost guaranteed you would practically be the only imp loyalist fighter in the mission...
But nothing was as bad as that first mission discovering Harkov's treachery. You, in a TIE Interceptor, going up against an ISD and all the fighters... all the while inspecting shuttles and cargo containers so the secret order would be impressed.
The first time I played X-Wing, I was zooming around a map just messing around, and then it happened:
A Star Destroyer dropped out of hyperspace in front of me. Zoomed into my field of view and then rapidly decelerated, just like in the movies. That was such a huge 'wow' moment, seeing that brought to life in (what felt like) full scale.
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You know, I think the world isn't good enough for a new TIE Fighter.
It definitely isn't good enough for a new Star Wars game that isn't just an excuse to kill stormtroopers or their starfighter equivalent whilst getting to do the evil laugh that apparently the Empire has a monopoly on. In other words, The Force Unleashed with fighters.
Fuck that noise.
An actual thoughtful, compelling successor to TIE Fighter though--or even X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter? Maybe with a TIE Defender and actual useful wingmen? No, this world isn't good enough for it.
*deep, remorseful sigh*
I need to stop living in the past. TIE Interceptors are quite boss too.
I loved X Wing vs TIE Fighter. W/ expansion it actually had a campaign you could play through. I basically got to the highest rank I could whilst not playing multiplayer, since I had an atrocious connection that was bad even for dial-up (try imagining that). The one time I did try playing multiplayer on that connection though on MSN Gaming Zone (ah the olden days) I tied with a guy who had achieved the highest possible rank in the game.
The first time I played X-Wing, I was zooming around a map just messing around, and then it happened:
A Star Destroyer dropped out of hyperspace in front of me. Zoomed into my field of view and then rapidly decelerated, just like in the movies. That was such a huge 'wow' moment, seeing that brought to life in (what felt like) full scale.
And the music gets all Imperial March "DUN DUN DUN, DUN DADUN, DUN DADUN."
Everything just stops for a moment.
Shit just got real.
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Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
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The dynamic MIDI-as-fuckin-hell music is the one reason why the floppy and collector's CD-ROM version of X-Wing and TIE Fighter are superior to the Collector's Series with the same Williams theme we've heard billions of times before looped ad nauseam.
As much as I've wanted this for some time I can't really believe we will get what we want: An modern update of our childhood classics.
With LucasArts basically abandoning the PC and joysticks being a rarity these days I can't see too many money men being happy about it. I guess a 3rd party developer might have a strong interest.
I'm hopeful that the live action show will do well and we will see more things based on the classic timeline for adults. I won't hold my breath though.
They have rumored that the series won't have any Jedi or lightsabers in it.
If this is true they will lose half their audience and the show will flop.
Oh god
That would be so cool though
Would a StarWars Fanboy watch a show with no Jedi? Yes.
Would I watch a show without Jedi? Yes. (If there were some good Rebellion story lines and no teenage angst.)
Would enough people in the mainstream who like the StarWars movies enough to try out a show based on the movies keep watching if there weren't any Force Powers, Jedi or Lightsabers? No.
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
Too many jedi ruins star wars, the original trilogy was perfect.
Also bring on a star wars dogfighting sim that makes freespace and falcon 4.0 look like arcade games
Too many Jedi is what killed Star Wars: Galaxies imo. Well, the first of many things at least... (Stupid CU/NGE *grumble*)
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
20+ males are the quintissential target market. They base 90% of marketing and shit towards us. While the majority of us in this market are beer swilling douchebags, it still counts for something.
Lucas is a marketing genius, he knows the big bucks are in toy sales. Fucksauce, look at transformers 2: michael bay is going to make over a hundred million goddamn dollars off the toys from that shitfest.
That's Bay alone. From the toy sales. Fuckmints I hate that dude for his unimaginable wealth.
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
20+ males are the quintissential target market. They base 90% of marketing and shit towards us. While the majority of us in this market are beer swilling douchebags, it still counts for something.
Other than video games, nothing Star Wars has been marketed to our demographic. It just so happens that a lot of the marketing to children also works on us, because that's just who we are.
If they can attract a portion of the 20+ crowd while putting the bullseye on the kid crowd. Why change the formula?
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
20+ males are the quintissential target market. They base 90% of marketing and shit towards us. While the majority of us in this market are beer swilling douchebags, it still counts for something.
Other than video games, nothing Star Wars has been marketed to our demographic. It just so happens that a lot of the marketing to children also works on us, because that's just who we are.
If they can attract a portion of the 20+ crowd while putting the bullseye on the kid crowd. Why change the formula?
Exactly this. The neckbeard crowd will buy a fraction of the number of toys that resigned parents of the 6-12 year old crowd will buy at christmas and on birthdays. Bonus: the kids will break their toys and will require new ones, the neckbeards will slap their perfect condition toys in a veritable shrine.
Star Wars neckbeards confuse me. They worship Star Wars while hating Lucas. It's like being a devout Christian while hating on Christ
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Lucas is a marketing genius, he knows the big bucks are in toy sales. Fucksauce, look at transformers 2: michael bay is going to make over a hundred million goddamn dollars off the toys from that shitfest.
That's Bay alone. From the toy sales. Fuckmints I hate that dude for his unimaginable wealth.
You have to admire his foresight, though
He personally made sure his contract stipulated he got a tiny percentage of every toy sold
That fucker may be a hack and his sequel may have sucked so many balls but I can't fault him for that humongous fucking paycheck he wheedled out of that deal
Also never put it past people to watch strange sci-fi shows. Fuck, they turned out in droves for a Battlestar Galactica remake, fer crissakes. A few years ago everyone would have laughed at the idea
They have rumored that the series won't have any Jedi or lightsabers in it.
If this is true they will lose half their audience and the show will flop.
Oh god
That would be so cool though
Would a StarWars Fanboy watch a show with no Jedi? Yes.
Would I watch a show without Jedi? Yes. (If there were some good Rebellion story lines and no teenage angst.)
Would enough people in the mainstream who like the StarWars movies enough to try out a show based on the movies keep watching if there weren't any Force Powers, Jedi or Lightsabers? No.
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
I wonder if LucasArts can successfully market a Star Wars game where you aren't a Jedi. The other 98% of Star Wars stuff basically just seems to be untouchable to modern developers.
The notion that this series will never have jedi in it is patently ridiculous. From what it sounds like, they won't be the focus, but will show up in some limited capacity, as plot devices and whatnot. Both Quinlan Vos and Galen Marek have been hinted to appear, and they are jedi as fuck
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All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai.
They have rumored that the series won't have any Jedi or lightsabers in it.
If this is true they will lose half their audience and the show will flop.
Oh god
That would be so cool though
Republic Commando was pretty fucking awesome. There were no Jedi or lightsabers.
How well did that game sell?
this thread makes me happy.
But Republic Commando is an excellent counterpoint to the potential popularity of a TV show without any Jedi or Force powers. Many people hail RC as a great squad shooter and a great starwars game...and there is no sequel, and its over. I fear the same would be true for the TV series.
Great show, good actors, and over in one season. :-(
The notion that this series will never have jedi in it is patently ridiculous. From what it sounds like, they won't be the focus, but will show up in some limited capacity, as plot devices and whatnot. Both Quinlan Vos and Galen Marek have been hinted to appear, and they are jedi as fuck
You can very easily implement Jedi into a remake of TIE Fighter or X-Wing vs TIE Fighter. I'll offer a very easy, but entirely plausible example: you're a TIE Fighter pilot, and you and a bunch of comrades have to hunt down and shoot the shit out of some Jedi in freighter who is running for his/her life.
So, the objective is to shoot down a really goddamn maneuverable freighter before it jumps into hyperspace. Successful Jedi-related mission in the context of XwvsTF. And plus, you know, this basically happened in the films (albeit with different ships) over and over and over again.
Would it happen? I seriously doubt it, because someone at LucasArts would scream "No one wants to kill Jedi! Especially if they don't get to be one! Scrap it!"
This sounds ridiculous, but Jedi are basically the player class of choice in Star Wars games. Apparently, everyone wants to be a goddamn Jedi. I enjoyed Jedi Academy as much as the next guy, but I don't need 8 more of the same damn game.
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Sick of your TIE Advance eh, even though it is a total badass shit kicker and more than good enough for Vader. Ok, here's the TIE DEFENDER, go kick some pirate ass.
A few campaigns later: Oh no, pirates/rogue imperials stole all our TIE Defender plants, I guess the Imperial Navy, with near unimaginable and limitless resources can't make any more, go use a TIE/A for a bit.
Next EXPASNION:
Oh shit, here you go Mr. Awesome Pilot, have the unstoppable Missile Boat.
Few missions later.
Rogue Imperials again blew up all production lines, we're sending the last few to the Emperor for his awesome stash of sweet loot, perfect for a RPG storyline years later set during the Thrawn Trilogy. Have fun beating a class ii Star Destroyer or two in your TIE/A! :P:P
But nothing was as bad as that first mission discovering Harkov's treachery. You, in a TIE Interceptor, going up against an ISD and all the fighters... all the while inspecting shuttles and cargo containers so the secret order would be impressed.
A Star Destroyer dropped out of hyperspace in front of me. Zoomed into my field of view and then rapidly decelerated, just like in the movies. That was such a huge 'wow' moment, seeing that brought to life in (what felt like) full scale.
It definitely isn't good enough for a new Star Wars game that isn't just an excuse to kill stormtroopers or their starfighter equivalent whilst getting to do the evil laugh that apparently the Empire has a monopoly on. In other words, The Force Unleashed with fighters.
Fuck that noise.
An actual thoughtful, compelling successor to TIE Fighter though--or even X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter? Maybe with a TIE Defender and actual useful wingmen? No, this world isn't good enough for it.
*deep, remorseful sigh*
I need to stop living in the past. TIE Interceptors are quite boss too.
I did not know there was one for the original X-Wing game.
I do remember they had X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power though.
I know, I know.
Also the expansion with the TIE Defender is called, and you won't believe this one...
Defenders of the Empire!
Edit: I wish I had a converter for the weird serial port on my old joystick, I wanna blow up some TIE fighters now.
YES!
I never got it to work but that was quite some time ago.
And the music gets all Imperial March "DUN DUN DUN, DUN DADUN, DUN DADUN."
Everything just stops for a moment.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
FM synth > redbook audio. I fucking said it.
With LucasArts basically abandoning the PC and joysticks being a rarity these days I can't see too many money men being happy about it. I guess a 3rd party developer might have a strong interest.
I'm hopeful that the live action show will do well and we will see more things based on the classic timeline for adults. I won't hold my breath though.
Though we haven't heard anything about it for ages. Supposed to start filming next year.
If this is true they will lose half their audience and the show will flop.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
Oh god
That would be so cool though
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Also bring on a star wars dogfighting sim that makes freespace and falcon 4.0 look like arcade games
Would a StarWars Fanboy watch a show with no Jedi? Yes.
Would I watch a show without Jedi? Yes. (If there were some good Rebellion story lines and no teenage angst.)
Would enough people in the mainstream who like the StarWars movies enough to try out a show based on the movies keep watching if there weren't any Force Powers, Jedi or Lightsabers? No.
I honestly think that we are to bias to Star Wars in general to make an opinion on the topic. They aren't going to target a show to the 20+ crowd that knew the Original Trilogy by heart before the Prequels were even on the writing board.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
Republic Commando was pretty fucking awesome. There were no Jedi or lightsabers.
How well did that game sell?
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Too many Jedi is what killed Star Wars: Galaxies imo. Well, the first of many things at least... (Stupid CU/NGE *grumble*)
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
20+ males are the quintissential target market. They base 90% of marketing and shit towards us. While the majority of us in this market are beer swilling douchebags, it still counts for something.
That's Bay alone. From the toy sales. Fuckmints I hate that dude for his unimaginable wealth.
Other than video games, nothing Star Wars has been marketed to our demographic. It just so happens that a lot of the marketing to children also works on us, because that's just who we are.
If they can attract a portion of the 20+ crowd while putting the bullseye on the kid crowd. Why change the formula?
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
But it probably won't be that cool.
Also, somebody mentioned the X-Wing books....damn I LOVE those books. Read the whole series.
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Exactly this. The neckbeard crowd will buy a fraction of the number of toys that resigned parents of the 6-12 year old crowd will buy at christmas and on birthdays. Bonus: the kids will break their toys and will require new ones, the neckbeards will slap their perfect condition toys in a veritable shrine.
Star Wars neckbeards confuse me. They worship Star Wars while hating Lucas. It's like being a devout Christian while hating on Christ
You have to admire his foresight, though
He personally made sure his contract stipulated he got a tiny percentage of every toy sold
That fucker may be a hack and his sequel may have sucked so many balls but I can't fault him for that humongous fucking paycheck he wheedled out of that deal
Also never put it past people to watch strange sci-fi shows. Fuck, they turned out in droves for a Battlestar Galactica remake, fer crissakes. A few years ago everyone would have laughed at the idea
PSN ID : DetectiveOlivaw | TWITTER | STEAM ID | NEVER FORGET
I wonder if LucasArts can successfully market a Star Wars game where you aren't a Jedi. The other 98% of Star Wars stuff basically just seems to be untouchable to modern developers.
this thread makes me happy.
But Republic Commando is an excellent counterpoint to the potential popularity of a TV show without any Jedi or Force powers. Many people hail RC as a great squad shooter and a great starwars game...and there is no sequel, and its over. I fear the same would be true for the TV series.
Great show, good actors, and over in one season. :-(
You can very easily implement Jedi into a remake of TIE Fighter or X-Wing vs TIE Fighter. I'll offer a very easy, but entirely plausible example: you're a TIE Fighter pilot, and you and a bunch of comrades have to hunt down and shoot the shit out of some Jedi in freighter who is running for his/her life.
So, the objective is to shoot down a really goddamn maneuverable freighter before it jumps into hyperspace. Successful Jedi-related mission in the context of XwvsTF. And plus, you know, this basically happened in the films (albeit with different ships) over and over and over again.
Would it happen? I seriously doubt it, because someone at LucasArts would scream "No one wants to kill Jedi! Especially if they don't get to be one! Scrap it!"
This sounds ridiculous, but Jedi are basically the player class of choice in Star Wars games. Apparently, everyone wants to be a goddamn Jedi. I enjoyed Jedi Academy as much as the next guy, but I don't need 8 more of the same damn game.