I don't actually get bored of healing. I'm perfectly happy sticking to the back, healing anyone who comes my way who hasn't been overhealed. The only problem is, I don't know the best times to hit the Ubercharge. Help me, veterans - when is generally the best time to hit it? Who are the best applicants? In wide spaces I tend to favour the Heavy or Soldier, and in close quarters I zone in on a Pyro to Ubercharge, is that right and okay? The tipping factor is the number of enemies - sometimes two enemies versus the one Heavy/Soldier/Pyro I'm healing at the time is enough to make me think "Yeah, Ubercharge time" but what works for you lot?
in priority order:
[strike]when it is pipthefair[/strike]
when you are about to die
when the person you are healing says so
when the person you are healing suddenly drops in health
when the person you are healing is fully reloaded, fully healed, and ready to kill people that are near
when you are near to combat, see combat, or get a gut feeling that someting might happen
when you feel like it
some general rules: better too early than too late, better to save yourself than to die without using your uber, the responsibility is more on them to make the most of the ubercharge, and you can always get another ubercharge if it fails first time.
nobody should blame you for bestowing them with a minute+ of your hard work of being credit to team, so it's really up to you to decide to pop it, unless they say they would like it earlier.
remember to uber demos as well, and pyros can be frightening ubered but can often bring you right into a suicide charge because of their close combat nature. don't be afraid to use the last few drops to run away. ubering the best combat class on the scoreboard is important, and so is ubering others- though less frequently. i try not to make others feel like i'm negelecting them because they aren't as good as pip.
it's very easy to get lost assessing the tactical "best" time, place, and class to use an ubercharge but the fact of the matter is that if you pop it you won't do anyone any harm and you might do a lot of good.
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edited August 2009
So, hypothetical - if an Engineer is setting up a sentry/dispenser and may or may not be in cover (or may just be somewhere that the enemy has a lot of access to), is it okay to Uber them to protect them while they build their death robots?
Uh, maybe? I can't remember the last time I ubered an engineer out of choice and not desperation. It's not like the uber protects the buildings and if they explode then the engineer may as well, too.
In short, that would be a terribly low priority uber.
I don't think I'd uber an engineer unless I knew for sure he'd at least wrench some dudes. His sentry is going to be blown up anyway.
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edited August 2009
I am noting all of this shit down. Pretty much when it comes to online multiplayer I've gone past the phase of "I'll do whatever is fun for me" to "I'll do whatever helps out the team, and I will make it fun for me in some way." Engineer near the bottom of the Uber priority list? Gotcha.:^:
One of the greatest uses for a defensive counter uber (at least before the leafblower stole the spotlight) is to target the engineer behind the sentry that's getting attacked and block the sentry from damage with your body.
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So, hypothetical - if an Engineer is setting up a sentry/dispenser and may or may not be in cover (or may just be somewhere that the enemy has a lot of access to), is it okay to Uber them to protect them while they build their death robots?
You Engineers confuse the crap out of me. :P
Probably a Bad Idea, as their death robots will still not be in cover, and probably easily blown up. Leaving you with an ubered engineer who was building fruitlessly instead of using his temporary godliness to kill many mans with his 300% crit wrench.
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When the gun's already built and they're hitting us with a krtiz or something, I've used it on engies before so they can keep repairing. It works best on dbowl 2-2 as a last resort.
By the way if you're the third Sniper to join our team of now 3 Snipers and two spys and you see me running past you while you're on fire with low health, letting you die.
gonna try to assemble a team. last year a pretty scrubby team took it.
if you're going to PAX this year and are interested, let me know
i am tiny lobsta on steam.
There were no teams last year, you signed up and they randomly placed you on a team. Is that changing this year?
I'm pretty sure there were teams last year.
Yeah, thinking about it, the way they stated the rules was unclear and everyone thought there would be no teams till we got there. In any case, I'm totally up for a team. It's 6v6, three of the maps are non-standard (yukon, follower, freight), and of those, only freight is in any of the PA servers.
Follower is on the HoNC, actually.
I meant to say in standard rotation. However I haven't been to HonC as much as I used to, so it very well may be standard there.
those are all standard competitive play maps, so i know them fairly well
it looks like this year they want only full teams to sign up, which is why i'm doing this ahead of time. i know there's enough people from the pa tf2 community going, i just don't know how many want to participate in a tournament.
I'll be at pax and this sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. It shouldn't take more than a few hours, right?
By the way if you're the third Sniper to join our team of now 3 Snipers and two spys and you see me running past you while you're on fire with low health, letting you die.
By the way if you're the third Sniper to join our team of now 3 Snipers and two spys and you see me running past you while you're on fire with low health, letting you die.
Protip: Only Kritz a pyro if there no other options available. 9/10 times you will both die in seconds.
i got a kritz today as a pyro, and I reflected sentry rockets back and killed 2 people with them. and then I took down the sentry and killed everyone else
One of the greatest uses for a defensive counter uber (at least before the leafblower stole the spotlight) is to target the engineer behind the sentry that's getting attacked and block the sentry from damage with your body.
It took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to train myself to be a bullet sponge when ubering as a medic.
I learned the "soak sentry hits to deal with pushback" pretty quick, but it's so hard to build up the reactions to jump into the line of fire.
Anyone else get have a "deer in the headlights" reaction to an oncoming crit rocket? Like, usually I'll deflect it, but sometimes I'll just stare at the glittery doom.
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Anyone else get have a "deer in the headlights" reaction to an oncoming crit rocket? Like, usually I'll deflect it, but sometimes I'll just stare at the glittery doom.
A lifetime of Genesis-era action games have taught me that round, glowing objects are priority targets for intersecting with oneself, because they are powerups.
gonna try to assemble a team. last year a pretty scrubby team took it.
if you're going to PAX this year and are interested, let me know
i am tiny lobsta on steam.
There were no teams last year, you signed up and they randomly placed you on a team. Is that changing this year?
I'm pretty sure there were teams last year.
Yeah, thinking about it, the way they stated the rules was unclear and everyone thought there would be no teams till we got there. In any case, I'm totally up for a team. It's 6v6, three of the maps are non-standard (yukon, follower, freight), and of those, only freight is in any of the PA servers.
Follower is on the HoNC, actually.
I meant to say in standard rotation. However I haven't been to HonC as much as I used to, so it very well may be standard there.
those are all standard competitive play maps, so i know them fairly well
it looks like this year they want only full teams to sign up, which is why i'm doing this ahead of time. i know there's enough people from the pa tf2 community going, i just don't know how many want to participate in a tournament.
I'll be at pax and this sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. It shouldn't take more than a few hours, right?
Awesome. I know a guy who can get us some practice time on his server.
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How does that pyro axe so quickly? Game always makes me wait for a fraction of a second too long before letting me making melee attacks when I switch to it.
gonna try to assemble a team. last year a pretty scrubby team took it.
if you're going to PAX this year and are interested, let me know
i am tiny lobsta on steam.
There were no teams last year, you signed up and they randomly placed you on a team. Is that changing this year?
I'm pretty sure there were teams last year.
Yeah, thinking about it, the way they stated the rules was unclear and everyone thought there would be no teams till we got there. In any case, I'm totally up for a team. It's 6v6, three of the maps are non-standard (yukon, follower, freight), and of those, only freight is in any of the PA servers.
Follower is on the HoNC, actually.
I meant to say in standard rotation. However I haven't been to HonC as much as I used to, so it very well may be standard there.
those are all standard competitive play maps, so i know them fairly well
it looks like this year they want only full teams to sign up, which is why i'm doing this ahead of time. i know there's enough people from the pa tf2 community going, i just don't know how many want to participate in a tournament.
I'll be at pax and this sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. It shouldn't take more than a few hours, right?
Awesome. I know a guy who can get us some practice time on his server.
i know a guy who can get us some practice time on his server too
oh yeah, i'm talking about me, since i have my own server! 8-)
i'm in this to win (and have fun, of course) though
i've participated in a tournament in every PAX, and the team i'm on generally loses (except for HL2: DM, where i came in 3rd woo woo)
so you'll have to excuse me if i come off as being a bit srs business about this, but i'm tired of losing!
so i mean, if you guys are down to kick some azz, send me a PM/a message on steam. i'll start us a group. there is a very decent possibility there are more than 6 PAers interested in being on the team, so please, if you're one of the people that isn't picked, it's nothing personal - purely just in the interest of class organization. 6v6 teams are very specific.
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some general rules: better too early than too late, better to save yourself than to die without using your uber, the responsibility is more on them to make the most of the ubercharge, and you can always get another ubercharge if it fails first time.
nobody should blame you for bestowing them with a minute+ of your hard work of being credit to team, so it's really up to you to decide to pop it, unless they say they would like it earlier.
remember to uber demos as well, and pyros can be frightening ubered but can often bring you right into a suicide charge because of their close combat nature. don't be afraid to use the last few drops to run away. ubering the best combat class on the scoreboard is important, and so is ubering others- though less frequently. i try not to make others feel like i'm negelecting them because they aren't as good as pip.
it's very easy to get lost assessing the tactical "best" time, place, and class to use an ubercharge but the fact of the matter is that if you pop it you won't do anyone any harm and you might do a lot of good.
You Engineers confuse the crap out of me. :P
In short, that would be a terribly low priority uber.
Probably a Bad Idea, as their death robots will still not be in cover, and probably easily blown up. Leaving you with an ubered engineer who was building fruitlessly instead of using his temporary godliness to kill many mans with his 300% crit wrench.
Who not to uber: Littleboots, iowa
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I'll be at pax and this sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. It shouldn't take more than a few hours, right?
http://www.wegame.com/watch/Top_10_TF2_FR_1/
Also, finally reading these forums and posting after a long hiatus.
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got it
Who to uber : Enders.
Who not to uber : Enders.
purty much
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It took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to train myself to be a bullet sponge when ubering as a medic.
I learned the "soak sentry hits to deal with pushback" pretty quick, but it's so hard to build up the reactions to jump into the line of fire.
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Play pyro like this
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Is he rocket jumping using someone elses rocket? What the living fuck?
yeah, the technique isn't too hard
getting it off in the heat of battle?
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A lifetime of Genesis-era action games have taught me that round, glowing objects are priority targets for intersecting with oneself, because they are powerups.
Of course, this is completely wrong.
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Awesome. I know a guy who can get us some practice time on his server.
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It was so terrible, and yet, I was compelled to not only watch the whole thing, but laugh too.
The only things particularly impressive about entries 2 through 10 are the fact that the other team let those people live that long.
I do like the #1 entry, though.
i know a guy who can get us some practice time on his server too
oh yeah, i'm talking about me, since i have my own server! 8-)
i'm in this to win (and have fun, of course) though
i've participated in a tournament in every PAX, and the team i'm on generally loses (except for HL2: DM, where i came in 3rd woo woo)
so you'll have to excuse me if i come off as being a bit srs business about this, but i'm tired of losing!
so i mean, if you guys are down to kick some azz, send me a PM/a message on steam. i'll start us a group. there is a very decent possibility there are more than 6 PAers interested in being on the team, so please, if you're one of the people that isn't picked, it's nothing personal - purely just in the interest of class organization. 6v6 teams are very specific.
most of all, most of all
someone said true love was dead
but i'm bound to fall
bound to fall for you
oh what can i do
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Eh I think 3, 2, and 1 weren't that impressive. Especially 3....oh no a heavy shot gunned down a bunch of people as heavies usually do.