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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    Evander wrote:
    Evander wrote:
    Evander wrote:
    honestly, the time thing will be totally useless. post number is the way to go.

    As long as we don't have idiots posting like mad to reach the designated post count in order to be able to make their own topics. It should be a number of GOOD posts.

    The problem is that words like "good" are subjective.

    Make it a high enough number that Mods would notice anyone spaming their way up to it, and anyone who does so will recieve a name ban and have to start over.

    how about not telling them about the post number and letting them figgure it out

    They'll spam until the button works anyway.

    Also, it feels a bit elitist and secretive.

    nobody has to TELL them that the new topic button will work after they have posted X number of times.

    it can be a beautiful epiphany. and if they ask why it doesn't, we can say that it is a bug and Ramius is working on it. :twisted:

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  • EvanderEvander Registered User regular
    edited February 2004
    THAT is just wrong.

    Sorry, but we are not trying to turn ourselves into fucking Elitists.

    That's the reason TTB has basically stagnated itself, long periods of trying to keep out new people (even though it was created out of fear that the community would die off.)

    Evander on
  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2004
    Evander wrote:
    Evander wrote:
    Evander wrote:
    honestly, the time thing will be totally useless. post number is the way to go.

    As long as we don't have idiots posting like mad to reach the designated post count in order to be able to make their own topics. It should be a number of GOOD posts.

    The problem is that words like "good" are subjective.

    Make it a high enough number that Mods would notice anyone spaming their way up to it, and anyone who does so will recieve a name ban and have to start over.

    how about not telling them about the post number and letting them figgure it out

    They'll spam until the button works anyway.

    Also, it feels a bit elitist and secretive.

    nobody has to TELL them that the new topic button will work after they have posted X number of times.

    it can be a beautiful epiphany. and if they ask why it doesn't, we can say that it is a bug and Ramius is working on it. :twisted:
    yes. noone would ever tell the noobs the secret.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited February 2004
    Now now. We aren't trying to exclude new comers to the community or anything like that. Just more or less show them the ropes, be it a tad forcefully. I believe a good system of restricting priviledges until it is clear to them what kind of community this is, as well as what will fly around here and what will not, is what we need.

    Theres been some good ideas in this thread that I feel really should be taken into consideration by King Ramius.

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  • FerryFerry Registered User
    edited February 2004
    I said it before, all these ideas are overly contrived and hard to put into effect. As PA increases in popularity theres going to be an increase of new people to the forums. I think that most people either pick up on the rules or get jailed/banned. It works, the only reason that you're seeing more instances of stupid shit is because there's an increase of people. There's a correlation betweent he two factors.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    just so you know, i don't AGREE with putting restrictions down (i think i already said that) but if there ever WERE to be restrictions, i would want them done in the manner i said.

    please mr. Ramius, tell us that you won't really do this to the poor noobs

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  • CombustibleCombustible Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Ferreous, your sig has caused me to add the following line to my host file:
    127.0.0.1	    members.lycos.co.uk
    

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  • RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited February 2004
    ok, this is pointless to continue this discussion.

    I have fairly defined views on newbies, and they definitely do not include quarantining them away, or taking away ANY of their posting powers for that matter.

    I had an idea for the points system a while back, discussed it at length, did a bunch of coding for it, and then realized that it would never work. So I basically scrapped it.

    I have an idea for a "compromise solution" to the rules issue, but it is really low down on my priority list, so I'm not even going to discuss it at this time. Suffice to say that for now, it will be business as usual. Newbies will show up, and the community will either embrace them, punish them, or ignore them. It's been this way for a long time, and I don't see a pressing need to change it.

    Ramius on
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited February 2004
    Ferreous, your sig has caused me to add the following line to my host file:
    127.0.0.1	    members.lycos.co.uk
    

    It has caused me to right click > Adblock Image.

    Unknown User on
  • CombustibleCombustible Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Ferreous, your sig has caused me to add the following line to my host file:
    127.0.0.1	    members.lycos.co.uk
    

    It has caused me to right click > Adblock Image.

    I prefer more drastic measures.

    I am a mushroom cloud layin motherfucker, motherfucker!

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  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited February 2004
    Evander wrote:
    Sorry, but we are not trying to turn ourselves into fucking Elitists.

    That's the reason TTB has basically stagnated itself, long periods of trying to keep out new people (even though it was created out of fear that the community would die off.)

    Tube on
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  • 150cc150cc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    we don't really get all that many stupid noobs. and the ones we do just keep things interesting.

    Thank you for making a sensible point.

    It really doesn't happen all that often. It's not like we're getting ten "Hi I'm New" threads a day. If we were then we'd need to do something. But that's just not the case.

    Besides, sometimes it can be kind of fun to lay the smackdown and jail or ban an idiot noob.

    And their threads make for good flamefests also.

    150cc on
  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited February 2004
    Oh, and Evan is a weenie.

    Tube on
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

  • CombustibleCombustible Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Evander wrote:
    Sorry, but we are not trying to turn ourselves into fucking Elitists.

    I already am a fucking Elitist.

    And whats the TTB?

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  • ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    edited February 2004
    While I am not an Elitists I will say that if a Noob comes in and acts like a stupid Noob and they get flamed for it then that is fine by me. Trial by fire I say if they survive they are worth having around. If they they bail then so be it. It is the way of the forum

    Artoria on
  • StonedHamsterStonedHamster Registered User
    edited February 2004
    I never understood the concept of some people being aggressive towards newbs. For example if most people on the message boards are against those who flame newbs for sucking at a game why flame them on the boards ? Just because you aren't playing anything with them doesn't mean it makes you better than the "chattybitches" that go on saying " You n00b you suck!!11!1 . " Just because you post on message boards. Now I have the feeling that what I said makes no sense, but I decide to post anyway :P .

    Another thing, what in the name of Ghandi's Goat, is goatse ? I have heard about it a numerous amount of time but never figured out what it was. Explain ? Please ?

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  • futilityfutility Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    ungh why did you bring this back...

    anyway it's not about being mean to noobs because they're new. this isn't a cs server. the problem is when they come here and just start breakign the rules and acting like a complete ass.

    think of this place as a house party. noobs are the guys who come in off the street, not knowing anyone, and then drink all the beer, shout at strangers and acost them, piss in the middle of the room, and then pass out on your bed in a puddle of their own vomit.

    futility on
  • PantsmonkeyPantsmonkey Registered User
    edited February 2004
    How about instead of Jail or whatever there could be a Pinned thread for "the new guys"

    Where any 1 month plus members caught flaming or making obvious statements about how a newbie was being stupid (Duh. Eveyone, okay most were. everyone would agree with me on this) would be jailed for a day or 2. The new people around here tend to really arc up when baited by an old timer.

    Just a thought, it may make the stoopid a little more concentrated and thus easier to clean up.

    Perhaps this would give new persons time to adjust and learn to deal with the knowledge and Flow of the place.

    Il go back to G&T now :P

    Pantsmonkey on
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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    Look , I've got it all figured out. No need for posting restrictions, jailings, stickied n00b threads or the like. Just supply them with this image anytime a newbie makes a shit thread.

    bigWhoCares2.jpg

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • PantsmonkeyPantsmonkey Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Its 113 K Noobs on 56K can hit the reply to post button 5 times before that shit loads.

    Work in 4 hours 4 hours sleep last nite tired as fuck over it all.

    Pantsmonkey on
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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    Better?

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • PantsmonkeyPantsmonkey Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Better?

    :^:

    Cha Ching !

    Pantsmonkey on
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  • waynewayne Registered User
    edited February 2004
    So far the best idea I've seen yet is the 1 week without having a "new topic" button. This gives them time to post in threads like normal, but they can't create new threads to site whore, say "hi I'm new" or what have you.

    wayne on
  • Mp3Mp3 Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Well, what is goatse ? I have heard about it many, many times. But I have not figured out what it is. Might someone please explain ?

    Mp3 on
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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited February 2004
    Mp3 wrote:
    Well, what is goatse ? I have heard about it many, many times. But I have not figured out what it is. Might someone please explain ?
    search for it on urban dictionary.

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  • waynewayne Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Hell...a simple google search will find you teh goatse

    wayne on
  • OrthancOrthanc Death Lite, Only 1 Calorie Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2004
    wayne wrote:
    Hell...a simple google search will find you teh goatse

    But urban dictionary will describe it, removing the need to replace your eyes

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  • waynewayne Registered User
    edited February 2004
    If he has to ask, he deserves to have his retinas burned.

    wayne on
  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited February 2004
    wayne wrote:
    If he has to ask, he deserves to have his retinas burned.
    Better to ask than lookwhatIfound

    Paladin on
    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • waynewayne Registered User
    edited February 2004
    True, true.

    wayne on
  • Mp3Mp3 Registered User
    edited February 2004
    Thank God I didn't go to the site, just to urban dictionary. Now I have the chance to live a normal life, without having my eyes bleed, retinas burned, and my cornia damaged.

    Mp3 on
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  • O.C.O.C. Registered User
    edited March 2004
    Can anyone tell me why my post your desktop topic was locked and I was jailed. What did I do wrong?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2004
    O.C. wrote:
    Can anyone tell me why my post your desktop topic was locked and I was jailed. What did I do wrong?

    repeat thread.

    and on that note, 150cc, will you use my fanart to card peoples?

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  • O.C.O.C. Registered User
    edited March 2004
    Thanks for answering. I didn't know. ( I should have searched and the future will)

    O.C. on
    who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worth cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. -- Theodore Roosevelt
  • 150cc150cc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2004
    Card people? What do you mean?

    150cc on
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2004
    red and/or yellow'd

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  • KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited March 2004
    I cannot believe this thread continues. Of course noobs are a problem and they always will be unless you perma lock registration. This is something that is hardly avoidable. Making a period of non-posting after registration would just cause much more irritation and discouragement to new members. Just think about people trying to use Help / Advice?

    Carding people would mean to check their Identification at the entrance, much like a movie theatre to see if you are old enough to see watch an R rated film.


    Please, stop this thread. Don't reply unless you have something meaningful and ontopic to talk about like how we need to buy more RAM. I'd kill for a RAM joke right about now.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2004
    i take it you didn't read the last posts, did you?

    we kinda got off topic.

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  • waynewayne Registered User
    edited March 2004
    Please, stop this thread. Don't reply unless you have something meaningful and ontopic to talk about like how we need to buy more RAM. I'd kill for a RAM joke right about now.

    To properly master the art of Kung Fu, you may need to buy more RAM.

    Hey...you asked for it ;)

    wayne on
  • ObbiObbi Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2004
    Speaking of Newbies, it seems really, really obvious that they like to go to Linksville and post something of theirs. I mean, it's happening a lot more often.

    about as often as reposts of the same link, despite the fact the link is still on Page 1.


    I SAY I BECOME MOD OF THE LINK VILLAGE.

    I mean, I'm there a lot.

    Obbi on
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