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The pscyhological effects of Nicotine withdrawal

TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Now that I'm not smoking I've noticed a complete change in my emotional state.

I had my last cigarette a month ago. I've been smoking a pack a day for the past 5 years. I was prescribed some medication to make quitting easier, and it's made the transition much smoother than going cold turkey. I realize there are adverse effects when you first stop smoking, but I'm not sure how long they last. For the past month I've had a chip on my shoulder and I've been constantly on edge. It now takes very little to set me off, and I can now be surprised very easily. I'm fairly certain I didn't feel like this on a daily basis before I started smoking.

So, to all the other former smokers out there, is this normal? Will this go away?


If I have to put up with this for too much longer I'm going to start smoking again, or chewing nicotine gum. Who wants to live forever?

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  • elfdudeelfdude Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This conclusion is totally theory and might be totally wrong but the major reason smoking makes you feel good is nicotine releases adrenaline. It's possible that low adrenaline stores (no idea if it can run out) made you more even tempered.

    More likely though you're missing a habit that you've had for years. Give it time, attempt to grin and bear it whenever you can (grinning releases happiness hormones regardless if it's fake or not) and you'll eventually get out of your rut. I personally formally quit a year ago but I'll have a cigarette once or twice a week. If you don't have any self control or fear you might just start smoking again don't try that though.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    elfdude wrote: »
    This conclusion is totally theory and might be totally wrong but the major reason smoking makes you feel good is nicotine releases adrenaline. It's possible that low adrenaline stores (no idea if it can run out) made you more even tempered.

    More likely though you're missing a habit that you've had for years. Give it time, attempt to grin and bear it whenever you can (grinning releases happiness hormones regardless if it's fake or not) and you'll eventually get out of your rut. I personally formally quit a year ago but I'll have a cigarette once or twice a week. If you don't have any self control or fear you might just start smoking again don't try that though.

    I've never heard about nicotine releasing adrenaline, that's interesting though. I do know that smoking a cigarette triggers a release of dopamine, which is what I had assumed was part of my problem.

    The only thing is I don't think I'll ever get rid of the urge to smoke when I drink.

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    you wont. it'll bother you for a long long time. just keep at it. never let yourself think 'oh i can just have one every now and again' because it gets really easy to fall back into it

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Are you sure it's not the medication making you edgy? I quit recently (cold turkey 6ish months ago) after being a pack-a-day for 12 years and after the first few weeks I felt better than I had in a decade.

    You should read Alan Carr's book, Easy Way to Stop Smoking. I was skeptical but it helped me quit on the first try after dozens of failed attempts.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This can take months to do, and years before smoking isn't a thought and maybe forever until you don't have occasional urge, but it's worth quitting now before you really damage your body. I'm a fan of positive rewards and distractions. The usual things like chewing gum, or popping a mint when you get the urge to smoke; putting the money you'd spend on ciggarettes towards some kind of reward for not smoking, etc.

    The sooner you quit the better, this isn't about 'living forever' but about stopping before your really mess up your body.

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  • TinuzTinuz Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I tend to smoke (it relaxes me....and my graduation buddy smoked...you can see how those two things can conspire to make bad things happen) whenever I feel bored, anxious or generally restless. When I don't do anything about those states, I tend to sleep poorly and generally be on edge. A reward helps to assuage these feelings and has a similar effect on me as smoking.

    Actually, and I don't know this for sure, any imbalance (such as increased adrenaline levels) are compensated for by your brain after some exposure (hence, people need to smoke more, score more often, drink more, etc.). Thus, my theory is, you associate this habit with relaxing and since the habit itself has become the drug, not the drug itself (to some extent, nicotine will always have a physical effect, just milder). Hence, replacing this habit with another, less unhealthy and addictive habit will help quitting and ease the tensions you are experiencing.

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  • elfdudeelfdude Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The high you get from a cigarette is almost 100% adrenaline based. Some people experience this others do not. The dopamine effect is something that you don't really notice at low smoking levels (where the adrenaline effect is dominant) being a light smoker (less than a quarter pack a day) I never experienced the dopamine side-effects and more or less only enjoyed the adrenaline high I got (this helped me deal with the inability to get high on marijuana).

    Dopamine is released into the brain when stimulated by nicotine inducing happiness. With out it moodiness, anxiety and depression can occur but they don't normally affect people after a month (most symptoms stop after less than a week). Obviously this is changed by the amount and length of time you've smoked.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    elfdude wrote: »
    This conclusion is totally theory and might be totally wrong but the major reason smoking makes you feel good is nicotine releases adrenaline. It's possible that low adrenaline stores (no idea if it can run out) made you more even tempered.

    More likely though you're missing a habit that you've had for years. Give it time, attempt to grin and bear it whenever you can (grinning releases happiness hormones regardless if it's fake or not) and you'll eventually get out of your rut. I personally formally quit a year ago but I'll have a cigarette once or twice a week. If you don't have any self control or fear you might just start smoking again don't try that though.

    I've never heard about nicotine releasing adrenaline, that's interesting though. I do know that smoking a cigarette triggers a release of dopamine, which is what I had assumed was part of my problem.

    The only thing is I don't think I'll ever get rid of the urge to smoke when I drink.

    The physical aspect of withdrawl doesn't take long, it's the habit... all the things you used to do were satisfying while you smoked. I found smoking awesome because it gave me 10 minutes to sit down and do nothing, and I would make time to do nothing (smoke).

    It's hard to do nothing when you've quit smoking.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Contrary to what's stated in the post above the physical dependence does last for quite some time what with nicotine being one of the most addictive substances ever. edginess and irratibility are certainly a side effect of withdrawal especially for someone that has been smoking as heavily and for as long as you have.

    however don't expect the cravings to ever just disappear. It is just as much psychological as it is physical. try taking seven(this number is abitrary, but around there is a good amount) deep breaths whenever you feel the urge to light up. the calming effect of deep breathing cannot be understated.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    *overstated

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  • HuxleyHuxley Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I swear by the nicotine gum. When I smoked, it got me through the long trips to the in-laws, and when I decided to quit, it helped quell the need and the withdrawal.

    You just have to use it right: Treat it more like dip than gum. Chew it a bit, pack it between your gum and lip and hold until it stops tingling. Repeat. If you just go chomping on it it's not going to do its job.

    I haven't smoked in going on five years. Though I will say after big meals or sex, I still crave one once in a blue moon. The trick I've found is saying it out loud. "Man, I sure could go for a smoke." That usually works as a cue for my wife to distract me for a few minutes and *poof* gone.

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Hooves wrote: »
    Contrary to what's stated in the post above the physical dependence does last for quite some time what with nicotine being one of the most addictive substances ever. edginess and irratibility are certainly a side effect of withdrawal especially for someone that has been smoking as heavily and for as long as you have.

    however don't expect the cravings to ever just disappear. It is just as much psychological as it is physical. try taking seven(this number is abitrary, but around there is a good amount) deep breaths whenever you feel the urge to light up. the calming effect of deep breathing cannot be understated.

    this is a big thing. a lot of the feeling you crave can be helped with deep breaths. when you smoke a cig you take more deep breaths, albeit filled with smoke, but the motion is still calming.

    the gum really helps. it help me quit for about 6 months but then i started thinking i could keep it to one every now and then and it just went back into it. not as bad, but i still went back. my brother and some of my buddies have all had to kick chewing the gum since they got addicted to that instead of cigs. i actually started smoking because in high school a buddy game me a nicorette his parents bought him to get him to quit.

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