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G/F uterus is [cramp]ing our style

ctrlALTdelctrlALTdel Registered User new member
edited August 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
M g/f gets really bad cramps completely randomly. She's 22. One random day a few months ago she just doubled over in pain and has been getting them intermittently ever since.

- Been to the gyno for all sorts of tests. No cysts, tears, clogged tubes or anything physically wrong with her
- Not stress/exercise/temperature induced
- Not corresponding to her period
- No drug/alcohol/food interactions

She also has completely random periods. They tried to put her on BC but it just messed with her more. All she has now are Rx muscle relaxers for when it kicks up. Heating pads, OTC pain killers, hot showers, etc don't help.

I suppose since there's really nothing that the doctors could do then there's not much help to be had, I'm more asking to see if anyone else has this sort of problem, just so she knows that she's not alone.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    My wife gets bad cramps during her period, but not randomly. She finds caffeine and salty foods make them more intense, and nothing really lessens them for her.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Which type of birth control pill did she try? There are several types (monophasic, triphasic, low dose, etc) and one of them may help her but she may need to go through some trial and error. And there are other types of hormonal birth control like the new IUD's and the Depo shot that may also help.

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  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The other day I was reading about an elastic band that goes near the ankle, reroutes blood flow or something and there were a fair amount of women on several sites saying how much it helped with cramps.

    I have no idea if they actually work, it's a similar idea to accupuncture I think, with pressure points. I'm interested in seeing if they work, my fiance has bad cramps but brushed this idea off as nonsense.

    I cannot for the life of me find the websites or the actual product online anymore. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    The other day I was reading about an elastic band that goes near the ankle, reroutes blood flow or something and there were a fair amount of women on several sites saying how much it helped with cramps.

    I have no idea if they actually work, it's a similar idea to accupuncture I think, with pressure points. I'm interested in seeing if they work, my fiance has bad cramps but brushed this idea off as nonsense.

    I cannot for the life of me find the websites or the actual product online anymore. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

    I'll save you the effort

    it's crap, just like acupuncture

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  • ctrlALTdelctrlALTdel Registered User new member
    edited August 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    Which type of birth control pill did she try? There are several types (monophasic, triphasic, low dose, etc) and one of them may help her but she may need to go through some trial and error. And there are other types of hormonal birth control like the new IUD's and the Depo shot that may also help.

    Trial and error was exactly what they had her do. BC and her don't get along. I don't know if they tried IUDs or the Depo shot, I think they just gave up on that method on controlling it.

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  • seasleepyseasleepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    ...I was going to blather in here but it's occurring to me that I really don't have much knowledge to back it up (I have a uterus, but it hasn't really given me problems so far so I've never had much cause to investigate these sorts of things), so I'll keep this to two notes:
    A) In my limited experience, it unfortunately seems like with most of the diseases presenting those symptoms, even once they figure out what's going on, the "solution" is to pop some pills and take the day off of work/school if you need it. There's not a whole lot to do besides be aware of it.
    B) My first thought on reading the symptoms was endometriosis, but her gyno would probably have considered that already, as it's not uncommon.

    She's definitely not alone though. If you can believe Wikipedia, approx 5% of women have endometriosis and anywhere from 35-64% of women in various studies have dysmenorrhea (severe menstrual cramps).

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    ctrlALTdel wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Which type of birth control pill did she try? There are several types (monophasic, triphasic, low dose, etc) and one of them may help her but she may need to go through some trial and error. And there are other types of hormonal birth control like the new IUD's and the Depo shot that may also help.

    Trial and error was exactly what they had her do. BC and her don't get along. I don't know if they tried IUDs or the Depo shot, I think they just gave up on that method on controlling it.

    Well the Depo shot pretty much makes your period go bye-bye and I think it's once every three months. As for the pill, some wackiness isn't unusual when you start a new type. I just recently switched to a low-dose monophasic from using a triphasic for several years and was a bit off hormonally for a couple of months, but with nothing at all I'm a complete blithering wreck.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    hmm. I get the occasional random twinge (one actually woke me up the other night D: ), but nothing like that frequent. I'm willing to bet its something endometriosis-ey since I have a touch of that, and its just been missed. The pill helped a lot for me, but its a pretty non-standard formula. Anyway, sounds like she's tried most of the usual stuff, there's really nothing left to do beyond getting a referral to a hormone specialist, which won't be cheap. Some stuff that might help manage the symptoms though:

    * how physically active is she? Does she work out at all? Weight and shape aren't really super-relevant, but getting some lean muscle tissue built up can help normalise one's body chemistry.
    * Similarly, sleeping pattern? Lack of sleep just sends everything straight to hell.
    * Diet - how much refined sugar? Soft-drinks, bread, stuff like that. Less is more. Same goes for canned foods and fast foods; most people take in way too much sodium via these pathways. There's no reason to get too paranoid about this stuff, but cutting down on processed foods and excess carbs never hurts.

    Other than that, just about all you can do is be supportive and not freak out. As seasleepy notes, this stuff is pretty common. At some point we have to accept that our bodies aren't perfect, and most of us will have at least one chronic low-level health issue during our lives.

    (that said, anecdotally a lot of this stuff clears up after the first pregnancy... but I don't think "have a kid" is sound advice, especially since pregnancy introduces other health risks :P )

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  • ctrlALTdelctrlALTdel Registered User new member
    edited August 2009
    The Cat wrote: »
    * how physically active is she? Does she work out at all? Weight and shape aren't really super-relevant, but getting some lean muscle tissue built up can help normalise one's body chemistry.
    * Similarly, sleeping pattern? Lack of sleep just sends everything straight to hell.
    * Diet - how much refined sugar? Soft-drinks, bread, stuff like that. Less is more. Same goes for canned foods and fast foods; most people take in way too much sodium via these pathways. There's no reason to get too paranoid about this stuff, but cutting down on processed foods and excess carbs never hurts.


    (that said, anecdotally a lot of this stuff clears up after the first pregnancy... but I don't think "have a kid" is sound advice, especially since pregnancy introduces other health risks :P )

    1) Active, tall, skinny.

    2) Normal sleep pattern

    3)Doesn't drink soda, OK diet. Nothing in her diet seems to trigger it.

    4) Pregnancy: I think both she and I would rather deal with the cramps :)

    Yeah this is pretty much sounding exactly like what I've been telling her. I just hate when shit like this happens without explanation it just makes me worry more sometimes. Thanks for all the advice/anecdotes

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Oh she's absolutely not alone. I sometimes get incredibly crippling cramps where I have to completely stop what I'm doing for a while. I've noticed that if I exercise more, the pain tends to lessen. Maybe that would help her out a bit? Even walking around the house for a bit when they start up could do her some good. Just something to keep in mind.

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  • squeefishsqueefish Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    From wikipedia: "Mittelschmerz (German: "middle pain") is a medical term for "ovulation pain" or "midcycle pain". About 20% of women experience mittelschmerz, some every cycle, some intermittently."

    If her periods are random, then it would make sense that the bad cramping is somewhat random too, as it occurs "roughly midway" through the menstrual cycle. And considering she's been checked out for other stuff, Mittelschmerz seems even more likely.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelschmertz

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  • As7As7 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    What's her diet like. You might want to look into how nutrition affects cramps. Is she getting enough potassium and electrolytes. Does she exercise ?

    And as for birth control, you might want to have her try a method that eliminates periods all together.

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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This might be a stupid question, but are you sure it's related to her uterus, and not caused by something like Crohn's Disease (an intestinal problem)?

    EDIT: I just mention this because they sound like the symptoms that my mom had around her college years, and it turned out to be Crohn's Disease.

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  • The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I would consider looking into her diet, maybe she's lactose intolerant or she's one of the few folks who's allergic to stuff like gluten or wheat, so it may not so much be cramps but stomach/intestinal problems.

    Birth control takes awhile to regulate a woman's period so how long did they have her try things? I know that when my wife went off of the pill she had some crazy periods for a while before things got predictable again. One thing my wife does is mark on our calendar the days she's on her period, so maybe you could notice a pattern that way or be able to figure out if there's something that triggers the cramps.

    This may displease some other folks but my wife has mentioned that one thing that helps her with her cramps (which I doubt are as severe) was sex/orgasm. But that's just personal experience.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    I'd also recommend checking for intestinal issues, because once I had crippling abdominal pain and it turned out to be an intestinal infection rather than a period related issue. This would probably be indicated by some sort of constipation/diarrhea though.

    I will say, I always get cramps quite a bit before my period actually happens, like a week to a week and a half before. My period then has very little discomfort while it happens. trying to mark down her period may help her see trends.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Has she tried going to a different doctor?

    I know this example is for an unrelated medical condition, but it gets my point about a second opinion across. A while ago my mother suddenly began losing weight extremely rapidly and her doctor (which she had trusted for years and years) spent almost a year telling her it was just nerves and would go away if she'd just calm down. Finally she went to a new doctor for a second opinion and literally within a few minutes the new doctor had a hunch and went through the motions to have a few tests done to determine that she had Grave's disease - which, once diagnosed, is easily treatable but would have killed her if it had gone untreated much longer.

    So don't feel that you have to be loyal to your doctor.

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  • BJGBJG Registered User new member
    edited August 2009
    Well I use to have the same problem - mostly at the period, but sometimes at other times (my niece has it at other times, not at the period). Anyway, it really sounds like endometriosis, which is what I had. As far as diagnosing it, the Dr. may suspect she has this, but in order to be certain, they would have to do a laparoscopic exam to be sure.

    With this disease, lesions form on your uterus (on the outside), ovaries, and bowels and can be extremely painful. Sometimes just a cough or sneeze will double you over, because these lesions will adhere bowel to your uterus, ovaries or to other parts of the bowel or the abdominal wall. And as your bowels, ovaries and uterus move (and they do move) it can get really uncomfortable with cramping. Then once a month when you have a period things can really be painful.

    There is medication to help 'dry up' the lesions so they can be lasered off or if the lesions are not too severe birth control pills can be given to lower a woman's estrogen (which is what the endometriosis sort of feeds on). I know you said she couldn't take birth control pills, but it could be she just hasn't discovered the type she can take. There were many I couldn't take, but they finally found one I could.

    Birth control pills would be her best and least expensive option. Otherwise, there is not much which can be done.

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  • Aoi TsukiAoi Tsuki Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Throwing in another vote for endometriosis. My mother just had a hysterectomy because she's 55 and has been having menopause symptoms and heavy periods for the last three or four years and got fucking fed up with it. Turns out three doctors all failed to discover she had endometriosis. D:

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  • shugaraeshugarae Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    another vote for endometriosis...

    a friend of mine has endometriosis and the symptoms match the ones you described. There's not much else that can be done about it past pain killers, heating pads, etc., but she goes in once a year (or so) for some kind of outpatient surgical procedure where they basically scrape out the insides of her uterus -- she says that helps the symptoms for a little while.

    In any case, your gf may want to get a second opinion from another doctor, or have her ask directly about endometriosis to get his opinion.

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  • Caramel GenocideCaramel Genocide Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Polycystic ovarian syndrome can also match those symptoms. I'd also highly recommend checking out a second doctor.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    The other day I was reading about an elastic band that goes near the ankle, reroutes blood flow or something and there were a fair amount of women on several sites saying how much it helped with cramps.

    I have no idea if they actually work, it's a similar idea to accupuncture I think, with pressure points. I'm interested in seeing if they work, my fiance has bad cramps but brushed this idea off as nonsense.

    I cannot for the life of me find the websites or the actual product online anymore. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

    I'll save you the effort

    it's crap, just like acupuncture

    Is this your personal belief (like, I tried acupuncture and it didn't work ergo it's crap?) or is there something you can provide (besides anecdotal evidence) to back this up?

    Curious...

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    The other day I was reading about an elastic band that goes near the ankle, reroutes blood flow or something and there were a fair amount of women on several sites saying how much it helped with cramps.

    I have no idea if they actually work, it's a similar idea to accupuncture I think, with pressure points. I'm interested in seeing if they work, my fiance has bad cramps but brushed this idea off as nonsense.

    I cannot for the life of me find the websites or the actual product online anymore. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

    I'll save you the effort

    it's crap, just like acupuncture

    Is this your personal belief (like, I tried acupuncture and it didn't work ergo it's crap?) or is there something you can provide (besides anecdotal evidence) to back this up?

    Curious...

    http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=362
    http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=535
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/01/can_we_finally_just_say_that_acupuncture.php
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/04/sham_acupuncture_is_better_than_true_acu.php
    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1897636,00.html?cnn=yes
    http://www.nih.gov/news/research_matters/may2009/05182009backpain.htm

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