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["Game" On] Dawn of War II: Last Stand & 1.8 out on the 14th

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  • LookFreeGrenadeLookFreeGrenade Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So, last time I played this was the beta and I liked everything except orks.

    should I buy this and would you guys hate me y/n?

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
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    hahahaha those guys were so great
    The best part is Bethryn wants a unique replay to watch instead of the same old crap. WHOOPS! 8-)

    Also LFG the game is generally the same, probably. What did you not like about orks and people play in vent sometimes, I think.

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  • CanisAquilusCanisAquilus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    That game goomba keeps linking is good at best.

    This is a really great replay, and the one bethryn should probably comment on.

    http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/replays.php?game=47&tab=popular&show=details&id=91427

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    hahahaha those guys were so great

    See... awesome. The enemies are gimmicky, the play is really tough back and forth, and when we win, we win against mass sluggas everywhere.

    Also ork players could learn a lot from what those guys did once they hit t2.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I never, never see orks with all sluggas.

    Mostly because they're smart enough to know that shootas do more damage and are more threatening and if they don't I get to kill all of his sluggas. I guess it could just be me, knowing how to counter sluggas. It's okay, Canis, one day. HEH

    (My replay shows a ravener in action and I'm not going to spoil who wins but he was a ravener in 1.2 or 1.3 and he beat us and he adapted pretty amazingly for a tyranid which isn't saying a lot but still anyway mine is totally better and more dynamic and even has global abilities)

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  • LookFreeGrenadeLookFreeGrenade Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I didn't hate the orks per se, I was moreso dissapointed that they were not more like orks in Dow 1 in terms of personality really

    but yeah probably going to pick this up on steam

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    should I buy this and would you guys hate me y/n?

    As long as you don't play Tyranids you should be fine.


    I find that orks have a lot of personality. They have the best quotes in any case. Something so adorable about a nob squad saying "MAKE WAY FOR OUH SPESHUL FWIENDS THE ELDAR".

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I dunno, "Tyranids deserve only death." is probably the best line in the game.

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  • LookFreeGrenadeLookFreeGrenade Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    well I'm downloading as I write this, live tag is lookfreegrenade

    does the multiplayer run differently than the singleplayer? I was playing the demo and I didn't remember having to turn my settings down that low in the beta

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  • Winnie The PoohWinnie The Pooh Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
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    hahahaha those guys were so great
    The best part is Bethryn wants a unique replay to watch instead of the same old crap. WHOOPS! 8-)

    Also LFG the game is generally the same, probably. What did you not like about orks and people play in vent sometimes, I think.

    Watching banshees run down entire armies for 30 minutes isn't enjoyable (I guess unless you are eldar). The enemy eldar player only had his damn guardians when the vehicle warfare started and the tyranid lost most of his squads in similar circumstances.

    Besides, Mecha was the only one that did anything particularly different or interesting. You and canis did a pretty normal eldar, the Ork was about as boring as you can get, the tyranid power harassed with his tunnels which I guess is interesting? even though the rest of his force was par for the course, and the enemy eldar I guess got rangers which was strange.

    Not a terribly enjoyable replay, though you guys played well and had some neat combos (time field + term rockets as a good example).

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Well, uh, that's why you don't watch the warlock players.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Or actually watch the correct replay. I just watched it again and you're pretty much wrong except for the guardian, banshee, banshee start. Which, uh, against orks and Eldar is pretty uncommon.

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  • CanisAquilusCanisAquilus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Goomba wrote:
    Well, uh, that's why you don't watch the warlock players.

    Right because it was the warlock players who built loads of banshees and ran down whole armies with them. :wink:

    Pooh you should check out the replay I linked earlier:
    http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar...tails&id=91427

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Goomba wrote:
    Well, uh, that's why you don't watch the warlock players.

    Right because it was the warlock players who built loads of banshees and ran down whole armies with them. :wink:

    Pooh you should check out the replay I linked earlier:
    http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar...tails&id=91427
    Well it sure as shit wasn't the farseer. I did that maybe once in the game to venom broods.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Also I'd like to note I did so without the use of FoF. Unlike Canis "FoF + Swift Movement also plasma guardsmen somehow" Aquilus.

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  • AkiraAkira Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Either replay is awesome because I am in both, and im literally the best SM player on the planet.

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  • CanisAquilusCanisAquilus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Why would I use fof... that would reduce my damage. Swift movements solo is the way to go for running bitches down.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Why would I use fof... that would reduce my damage. Swift movements solo is the way to go for running bitches down.
    Well there you go, more proof that I couldn't possibly do that.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Double swift movement is hilarious. Especially with a third SM player. It's like the marines are snowskating on the map.

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  • DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Alegis wrote: »
    Double swift movement is hilarious. Especially with a third SM player. It's like the marines are snowskating on the map.

    It stacks between players? So massed banshees x 3 swift movements = dead everything?

    Reeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic!

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS WITH TANKS AND MEKBOYS, RELIC.

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  • CanisAquilusCanisAquilus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Alegis wrote: »
    Double swift movement is hilarious. Especially with a third SM player. It's like the marines are snowskating on the map.

    Are you sure? That would be just ridiculous.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Think so, though it wasn't on purpose (we both hit it around the same time) and my eyes could have been fooled by effects like the melee charge speed bonus. Something I need to give another testrun later.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Maybe someone who isn't a mouthbreathing retard wants to play some team ranked games later? I just finished a game on Angel Gate where both, that's right both, of my teammates went techmarine and build nine sentry guns around the north VP. Then the other team rolled in with wraithlords and we lost.
    Then after the game they were all 'not bad not bad. executed on our plan well but we had some bad luck'
    No you fucking idiot, you were just plain dumb. And I mean I'm quite poor at the game but at least I know the basics. Jesus christ. Both were rank 25 too. At what point do you stop doing that crap and learn that its a huge waste of resources?

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    But where were your sentry guns when they needed them the most? Clearly, you were the weakest link of the group and have no one to blame but yourself.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Hey. I'm as honest as the next guy about how crap I am. But it was incredibly frustrating to see them do this.

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  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Can we change the thread title to Goomba vs Canis II: Argue Harder?

    Also, still enjoying the SP. Need some people to play with before I give MP much time. Also, I suck at it and need a lot of help. I'm terrible at timing retreats and end up losing squads to sudden burst damage.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Can we change the thread title to Goomba vs Canis II: Argue Harder?

    Also, still enjoying the SP. Need some people to play with before I give MP much time. Also, I suck at it and need a lot of help. I'm terrible at timing retreats and end up losing squads to sudden burst damage.

    I'm up for both, well, when I'm online anyway. Hit me up if you're looking for someone to play. GFWL is subedii as well.


    EDIT: Scarab, the obvious flaw is that you didn't go Techmarine and spam Relays where the turrets were set up. You can't blame your team mates for not following the plan.

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  • MedanMedan Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So I have been trying 1v1 for the first time and been really enjoying myself... but I am getting tired of abilities not going off even though it uses the CD.

    I.E. this replay (TM, TS 26 vs. WS, TS 35): http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/replays.php?game=47&tab=popular&show=details&id=92166&st=0#6295879

    I end up staging a solid comeback, but it would have been a blow out if my abilities actually went off on time and/or at all.

    It makes me want to punch babies.

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Can we change the thread title to Goomba vs Canis II: Argue Harder?

    Also, still enjoying the SP. Need some people to play with before I give MP much time. Also, I suck at it and need a lot of help. I'm terrible at timing retreats and end up losing squads to sudden burst damage.

    Better title would be "If comrade Goomba says it, it must be right".

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    But that'd be implying he's a commun... oh wait, he's playing Eldar right? Bolshevik scum.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    That's really more the Tau isn't it?

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    subedii wrote: »
    That's really more the Tau isn't it?

    Duh, I don't see any Tau in my copy of DoW2, so right now the dancing little Space Elves will have to fit this role.

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  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    subedii wrote: »
    That's really more the Tau isn't it?

    Duh, I don't see any Tau in my copy of DoW2, so right now the dancing little Space Elves will have to fit this role.

    Tau secret code is Alt+F4, but you have to be in a 3v3 with a 100 point lead.

    Try it, it works.

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  • SepahSepah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    subedii wrote: »
    That's really more the Tau isn't it?

    Duh, I don't see any Tau in my copy of DoW2, so right now the dancing little Space Elves will have to fit this role.

    Tau secret code is Alt+F4, but you have to be in a 3v3 with a 100 point lead.

    Try it, it works.

    This is inaccurate. 1v1 with a 500-1 score.

    Totally worth it, Tau basic ranged units one-shot things from about as far away as a ranger or sniper scout.

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  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sepah wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    That's really more the Tau isn't it?

    Duh, I don't see any Tau in my copy of DoW2, so right now the dancing little Space Elves will have to fit this role.

    Tau secret code is Alt+F4, but you have to be in a 3v3 with a 100 point lead.

    Try it, it works.

    This is inaccurate. 1v1 with a 500-1 score.

    Totally worth it, Tau basic ranged units one-shot things from about as far away as a ranger or sniper scout.

    And just wait until you hit Tier 2 for Kroot! Banshees + Hormagaunts x Field Commander = KROOT!

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Tau have the best ranged that loses to melee and the best melee that loses to ranged.

    HAHA OH WAIT THAT WAS DOW 1 NICE BALANCE DESIGN THERE FUCKMUNCHES and this isn't even mentioning fucking drone harbringers.

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  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So despite having actually read this thread, I have upped and bought DoW2.

    Played through a fair bit of the single player to get bearings on things, all very familiar from previous Relic games. So I'm now battling my way on the multiplayer side of things and have shockingly found it to be lots of fun! I've only encountered un-counterable melee blobs twice so far.

    The only thing I am slightly perturbed about is the auto-matching system: I've been in at least one team game where 3 very low level players (<5) have been pitted against much higher levels (20+), whereupon we were steam-rolled in the most unpleasant of fashions.

    If anyone fancy's playing against a very new britlandish person, GFWL handle is "pablocampy".

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Campy wrote: »
    The only thing I am slightly perturbed about is the auto-matching system: I've been in at least one team game where 3 very low level players (<5) have been pitted against much higher levels (20+), whereupon we were steam-rolled in the most unpleasant of fashions.

    GFWL seems to assume for new gamertags: "Hmm, maybe they're actually TS 25-30 players, let's throw them against pre-made TS30 teams" (which is absolute nonsense for complete new players (which make up the bulk of new gamertags rather than smurf accounts) - especially with the lack of a multiplayer tutorial) and after you lose a couple of games it starts to consider the option that you may in fact be a new player, and match you against lower players. Pretty stupid heuristic if you ask me but that's how it works.

    The more games you play, the more your 'uncertainty value' drops and you close in on a TS interval.

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  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I really just want relic to unlock the model / character progression to people that avoid ranked multiplayer like the plague.

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  • BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    We'll being getting around to doing more shoutcasts when Klyka gets back from Hamburg, I hope. Which of those two replays we do will be decided in an arbitrarily random fashion, of course!
    I really just want relic to unlock the model / character progression to people that avoid ranked multiplayer like the plague.
    Agreed. As I said before, I think ranked should be the most time-efficient method of gaining Rank, but skirmishes and custom matches (and Last Stand and the other new game mode) should also give Rank progression, perhaps at a lesser rate.

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