The best explanation that I can think of that doesn't make them look like morons is that they decided that thier plan of blowing up a planet had better odds of saving the craftworld (did they even that it was Uthwe they were trying to save, or are we just assuming that because that's where they were coming from?) than helping the Blood Ravens... and since thier plan would fuck over pretty much all 3 of the Blood Ravens' recruiting worlds, they knew their response to that would have been a "fuck you" anyway, so why bother asking?
The best explanation that I can think of that doesn't make them look like morons is that they decided that thier plan of blowing up a planet had better odds of saving the craftworld (did they even that it was Uthwe they were trying to save, or are we just assuming that because that's where they were coming from?) than helping the Blood Ravens... and since thier plan would fuck over pretty much all 3 of the Blood Ravens' recruiting worlds, they knew their response to that would have been a "fuck you" anyway, so why bother asking?
My conclusion was that they had to stop the 'nids from taking the organic matter from more planets (Thus, ensuring that they don't grow STRONGER.), and if you can get a bunch of them together on a planet, kill a ton of them, AND wipe out some bothersome humans - That sounds like a good deal.
Fucking bugs! I play co-op for the first time ever with my boy and right at the beginning of the mission I garrison my 2 squads into a building and they won't come out. Nothing happens for 5 minutes while I'm pressing the button to make them leave the building. Finally I figure that just throwing a grenade at it will blow them out, which kills them all completely fucking the stats of the mission so we just had to restart it.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I know there are alot of known issues with garrisoning in the campaign mode.
It might be a case of where your pointer is acting like it's held down when it really isn't in which case if it does that you just need to click somewhere else via movement. It's thinking you want to face your units ie, a setup team.
Fucking bugs! I play co-op for the first time ever with my boy and right at the beginning of the mission I garrison my 2 squads into a building and they won't come out. Nothing happens for 5 minutes while I'm pressing the button to make them leave the building. Finally I figure that just throwing a grenade at it will blow them out, which kills them all completely fucking the stats of the mission so we just had to restart it.
Has this happened to anyone else?
I want to make a gay joke but I'm sure I'd get infracted :P
As long as it isn't mean spirited go ahead. We are a couple of gamin queers. 8-)
The best explanation that I can think of that doesn't make them look like morons is that they decided that thier plan of blowing up a planet had better odds of saving the craftworld (did they even that it was Uthwe they were trying to save, or are we just assuming that because that's where they were coming from?) than helping the Blood Ravens... and since thier plan would fuck over pretty much all 3 of the Blood Ravens' recruiting worlds, they knew their response to that would have been a "fuck you" anyway, so why bother asking?
My conclusion was that they had to stop the 'nids from taking the organic matter from more planets (Thus, ensuring that they don't grow STRONGER.), and if you can get a bunch of them together on a planet, kill a ton of them, AND wipe out some bothersome humans - That sounds like a good deal.
I don't think it was an issue of organic matter so much as it was some desperate bid to get other people to fight their battle for them. As Cyrus breaks it down, the Eldar knew the Orcs would considerably slow the Tyranid threat.
As for blowing up Angel Forge and taking the whole planet with it, my assumption there was that it'd just take a whole shitload of Tyranids with it. After all, a beefy chunk of the hive fleet was planetside. At the very least, Idranel certainly thinks this blast would be sizable enough to help "stop it here."
So, big blown up planet worth of 'nids, plus two planets full of orcs fighting 'nids, plus maybe a Space Marine chapter fighting the 'nids, equals saved Craftworld. Or, at the very least, a Craftworld that's just bought itself an assload of time. And if they take out an SM chapter in the process, hey, all the better.
The reasoning behind this... insane logic is that they're Eldar. What recourse do they have? The Space Marines certainly aren't going ally with them. Shit, the SM wouldn't give them the time of day. (Which isn't totally unreasonable, given that they don't have any good reason to trust the Eldar. The Eldar are kinda dicks. They see humans as lesser beings which are, ultimately, expendable.) So rather than ask "halp plz," the Eldar just skipped right to the preemptive fucking.
That said, this is 40k, which is always a charming sort of completely retarded. It's what would happen if heavy metal took over the universe. Which is why I can never hate it, no matter how much it hurts me.
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edited October 2009
Actually on that point about the planet
Blowing up the planet is to divert the hive fleet in a different direction. If there isn't prey in that direction the swarm would divert elsewhere and go on a different path.
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edited October 2009
I just got this game yesterday and it seems pretty fun, unfortunately my computer isn't quite good enough to play it properly so it lags like hell, so no multiplayer for me...
Still so far it hasn't crashed on me so it might be alright, I've painted up some Tyranids to look vaguely like my actual models so that's cool.
I've got a couple of questions; first is it possible to play 'the last stand' game mode single player or with AI helpers? Seen as I'd probably break the internet if i tried to play online. Secondly is there a some sort of map creator available. And finally seen as I suspect that my lag will become unbearable with upwards of 50 units or so on the screen are there any Warcraft 3 style cheat codes which will let me get rid of units quickly?
The Space Marines certainly aren't going ally with them
meh they maybe would against nids
hell the IoM had at one point an embasy on one of the craftwords
but they pissed all over that by having the inquisitors working there abducting eldar and performing experiments on them...
can't change the status quo can we GW?
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after the Blood Ravens were, like, holding their own against tyranids, orkz, and Eldar the Eldar didn't realize that, "oh hey maybe dying here for no reason is a bad idea hurf hurf hurf"
after the Blood Ravens were, like, holding their own against tyranids, orkz, and Eldar the Eldar didn't realize that, "oh hey maybe dying here for no reason is a bad idea hurf hurf hurf"
Relic sure likes making Eldar retarded.
I agree, Relic did a really good job of representing how stupid they are.
Space Marines have a Librarian now! Now Blood Ravens can accually play like... Blood Ravens.
Considering it mentions that it will appear in multiplayer, I now wonder what other new goodies could the other factions get. Genestealers? Mad doks?...
the troops were taunted by the leader of the Chaos Marines, who revealed himself to be Eliphas, the old enemy of Davian Thule, who sought to claim the entire planet for himself.
It's not morality. It is, in Imperium terms, corruption, how far towards the Ruinous Powers you have travelled...In Eye of Terror terms, it's how much of a lapdog to the False Emperor you are, or are not.
Sorry, no drop in, basic underpinnings of the game don't support it.
Pity. That really does hold back the co-op. Just so I'm clear, I may have used the wrong term. I don't mean literally drop into a game in-progress, but say, have the game pair you up with someone else looking for a co-op game before you start (like in Gears of War), instead of it just being a friends list / invite only thing.
You also don't lose all your gear when importing, just remember that your old strike cruiser was destroyed during the final mission.
I'll take that to mean "just the shirts on their backs" type of thing. Well, jump packs anyway. Good thing too, I'd miss my jump pack.
If we were to do an Eldar campaign, that would please Goomba and Pancake. If those two are publicly happy, even if for just a moment, it's a sure sign of the End Times.
So, it's a public service, we're simply postponing the end of the world as we know it.
I'm not entirely sure Croak, but is the same guy who did Eliphas in the previous games doing the voice in the expansion? Because that is awesome if that's the case.
after the Blood Ravens were, like, holding their own against tyranids, orkz, and Eldar the Eldar didn't realize that, "oh hey maybe dying here for no reason is a bad idea hurf hurf hurf"
Relic sure likes making Eldar retarded.
I agree, Relic did a really good job of representing how stupid they are.
It's true if the Eldar weren't so stupid on every level then maybe they wouldn't suck and die so much.
But damn they are pretty stupid so that doesn't happen.
If we were to do an Eldar campaign, that would please Goomba and Pancake. If those two are publicly happy, even if for just a moment, it's a sure sign of the End Times.
So, it's a public service, we're simply postponing the end of the world as we know it.
This isn't strictly true. I'm sure if you did an Eldar campaign but showed them to be just as idiotic as they always are, they'd still complain that you hadn't captured the "true essence" of the Eldar and their superiority over all.
after the Blood Ravens were, like, holding their own against tyranids, orkz, and Eldar the Eldar didn't realize that, "oh hey maybe dying here for no reason is a bad idea hurf hurf hurf"
Relic sure likes making Eldar retarded.
I agree, Relic did a really good job of representing how stupid they are.
It's true if the Eldar weren't so stupid on every level then maybe they wouldn't suck and die so much.
But damn they are pretty stupid so that doesn't happen.
See Croak this is why I can never buy another Relic game ever even if it's CoH 2 or HW3. Because of this.
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I know there are alot of known issues with garrisoning in the campaign mode.
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Stop being so gay, Span. It's kind of annoying.
As for blowing up Angel Forge and taking the whole planet with it, my assumption there was that it'd just take a whole shitload of Tyranids with it. After all, a beefy chunk of the hive fleet was planetside. At the very least, Idranel certainly thinks this blast would be sizable enough to help "stop it here."
So, big blown up planet worth of 'nids, plus two planets full of orcs fighting 'nids, plus maybe a Space Marine chapter fighting the 'nids, equals saved Craftworld. Or, at the very least, a Craftworld that's just bought itself an assload of time. And if they take out an SM chapter in the process, hey, all the better.
The reasoning behind this... insane logic is that they're Eldar. What recourse do they have? The Space Marines certainly aren't going ally with them. Shit, the SM wouldn't give them the time of day. (Which isn't totally unreasonable, given that they don't have any good reason to trust the Eldar. The Eldar are kinda dicks. They see humans as lesser beings which are, ultimately, expendable.) So rather than ask "halp plz," the Eldar just skipped right to the preemptive fucking.
That said, this is 40k, which is always a charming sort of completely retarded. It's what would happen if heavy metal took over the universe. Which is why I can never hate it, no matter how much it hurts me.
Still so far it hasn't crashed on me so it might be alright, I've painted up some Tyranids to look vaguely like my actual models so that's cool.
I've got a couple of questions; first is it possible to play 'the last stand' game mode single player or with AI helpers? Seen as I'd probably break the internet if i tried to play online. Secondly is there a some sort of map creator available. And finally seen as I suspect that my lag will become unbearable with upwards of 50 units or so on the screen are there any Warcraft 3 style cheat codes which will let me get rid of units quickly?
Thanks.
meh they maybe would against nids
hell the IoM had at one point an embasy on one of the craftwords
but they pissed all over that by having the inquisitors working there abducting eldar and performing experiments on them...
can't change the status quo can we GW?
Relic sure likes making Eldar retarded.
I agree, Relic did a really good job of representing how stupid they are.
*holds out hope for an IG campaign.*
Cool that Eliphas is coming back. He was definitely the best Chaos character.
Considering it mentions that it will appear in multiplayer, I now wonder what other new goodies could the other factions get. Genestealers? Mad doks?...
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Wraithguards?
At the very least I hope you're including striking scorpians and wraithguard into multiplayer.
You know, a character that actually leads armies.
Striking Scorpions themselves though? Only Librarians have been announced as a new unit for multi-player. Not in. Probably in a coming patch!*
Other than that, sounds awesome.
Also, they're including Plague marines, so it looks like Fiaryn ought to be happy.
Oh, and to manage expectations based on the IGN preview, the mention of an Ork Battle Wagon is erroneous, it's Wartrukk.
So happy.
The idea of a morality bar in a Warhammer game baffles me in every conceivable way though.
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Not morality, since we all know that's relative.
We all know what everyone wants to know and that's what you did to Eldar. Or (unlikely) for Eldar.
Pity. That really does hold back the co-op. Just so I'm clear, I may have used the wrong term. I don't mean literally drop into a game in-progress, but say, have the game pair you up with someone else looking for a co-op game before you start (like in Gears of War), instead of it just being a friends list / invite only thing.
I'll take that to mean "just the shirts on their backs" type of thing. Well, jump packs anyway. Good thing too, I'd miss my jump pack.
So, it's a public service, we're simply postponing the end of the world as we know it.
It's true if the Eldar weren't so stupid on every level then maybe they wouldn't suck and die so much.
But damn they are pretty stupid so that doesn't happen.
I never asked for this!
This isn't strictly true. I'm sure if you did an Eldar campaign but showed them to be just as idiotic as they always are, they'd still complain that you hadn't captured the "true essence" of the Eldar and their superiority over all.
In short, the balance would be maintained.