That seems to be the way most of us are going, which is unfortunate for those of us without computers that could reasonably run it.
If they really cared they'd pony up the dough to upgrade their awful computers. :P
If they were going to do that, why in the hell did they buy an Xbox?
For the same reason the rest of us that own both did: good games on both platforms?
I can certainly understand not wanting to fork over hundreds of dollars for just one game, but upgrades are pretty cheap these days. 4 GB of DDR800 RAM will run ~$50. A video card that'll probably run this at maxed settings at 1920x1200 is less than $200. A modern dual-core CPU is $50.
I'm going to go Brick "I just killed a guy, look at my stats inflate" with a side of "holy crap, that was a rocket to the chest and my shield is still up."
Rak, Signum.
I believe we found our Brick. And our complete team of non-repeats.
That seems to be the way most of us are going, which is unfortunate for those of us without computers that could reasonably run it.
If they really cared they'd pony up the dough to upgrade their awful computers. :P
If they were going to do that, why in the hell did they buy an Xbox?
For the same reason the rest of us that own both did: good games on both platforms?
I can certainly understand not wanting to fork over hundreds of dollars for just one game, but upgrades are pretty cheap these days. 4 GB of DDR800 RAM will run ~$50. A video card that'll probably run this at maxed settings at 1920x1200 is less than $200. A modern dual-core CPU is $50.
Well you don't fork over hundreds of dollars for one game regardless if you're talking about an Xbox or PS3 or PC. I really want to play God of War 3 when it's released but I won't buy a PS3 because of it. I wouldn't upgrade/buy a new computer just to play Borderlands on it either. I would, however, buy an Xbox or build a new PC to gain access to all of that systems games (which is what I did).
I like gaming on the PC because if you build a brand new PC you can also keep it playing games for years and years for very little money. Perhaps buy more RAM, a newer video card, whatever.
I think some of you will be very surprised at how well the game runs on older PCs. I mean, Gearbox's Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway used a tweaked unreal 3 engine and its requirements were (yoinked from the official forums):
Processor: Intel Pentium D 3.0Ghz /
AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+
Display Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series /
ATI Radeon X1600 Series
Memory: 1024MB
Even those of you who haven't upgraded their PC for a couple years should be close to that. Hell, I sold my last build (which I built over 2 years ago) to a friend in summer 2008 and it's as good or better than that depending on the part. I'm sure borderlands' version of the engine has its share of tweaks that will push the requirements higher, but it's at least a starting point.
I can certainly understand not wanting to fork over hundreds of dollars for just one game, but upgrades are pretty cheap these days. 4 GB of DDR800 RAM will run ~$50. A video card that'll probably run this at maxed settings at 1920x1200 is less than $200. A modern dual-core CPU is $50.
Closer to $100 than $200. ATI 4870s are like $130 for the 1gb version, and they'll run pretty much every game out now at maxed settings and a playable framerate. If you're running lower than 19x10~ rez and have no plans to upgrade monitors, you can easily get away with a 512mb card.
I think many people just don't know how to plan upgrade paths when they build a PC. That, or they just buy a frickin' Dell or something. It's really not that expensive if you pay attention. I'd be glad to help, too.
Wow, been watching this game for awhile and kind of on the fence whether or not I wanna plop down $45 for it. Looks awesome, and all that, but I'm a scrooge. That four-pack deal though? Yikes. I certainly can't pass that up, if'n three of you duders around here are looking to go in on it with me.
Was pretty set on this anyway and that awesome deal solidifies it. As Wenchkilla said, there's just too much awesome coming out shortly.
I think many people just don't know how to plan upgrade paths when they build a PC.
Can you blame them, though?
Look at video cards alone:
You only have two brands - ATi and nVidia - but browsing at NewEgg, you see Sapphire and XFX and MSI and Asus and Biostar and Gigabyte and a dozen others. Is a Gigabyte GTX 260 different than an XFX GTX 260? Why does one Gigabyte GTX 260 cost $30 more than another Gigabyte GTX 260? What's the comparable ATi card to a GTX 260? What about a GTX 260 OC? Is that faster than a Radeon 4870? What about the 4870 x2? How much power does that require? Will it fit in my case? What sort of power connectors do I need? It says it takes up 2 PCIe slots, but is that PCIe 2.0 or just PCIe? And do I need two actual PCIe slots, or just one, and free space below it?
Even once you get all that shit pinned down, figuring out what card you need is an exercise in frustration. How fast of a card do I need? How do I figure that out? What's faster, the GTX 275 or the 9800 GTS? And while common sense would dictate that a Geforce 9600 would be more powerful than a Geforce 8800, it's not. And what's the difference between GS, GT, GTS, and GTX? And why is the GTX in front on the 260, 275, and 280, but after on the 8800? And why is GS "okay" on nVidia's cards, but actually a super-secret code for "do not buy this hewn-from-the-short-bus pile of shit" on ATi cards?
This doesn't even account for all the frilly bullshit the manufacturers do the cards.
I've easily built over 100 computers since I started doing it sometime back around 1999, and I still feel like bashing my head into a wall when I start looking through video cards for a new one.
Buying a Dell isn't a good use of money, but I can't really blame people who look at building their PC for the first time, seeing the tidal wave of bullshit that is video card and processor specs, and just saying "fuck it" and buying a pre-built system.
I think many people just don't know how to plan upgrade paths when they build a PC.
Can you blame them, though?
Look at video cards alone:
You only have two brands - ATi and nVidia - but browsing at NewEgg, you see Sapphire and XFX and MSI and Asus and Biostar and Gigabyte and a dozen others. Is a Gigabyte GTX 260 different than an XFX GTX 260? Why does one Gigabyte GTX 260 cost $30 more than another Gigabyte GTX 260? What's the comparable ATi card to a GTX 260? What about a GTX 260 OC? Is that faster than a Radeon 4870? What about the 4870 x2? How much power does that require? Will it fit in my case? What sort of power connectors do I need? It says it takes up 2 PCIe slots, but is that PCIe 2.0 or just PCIe? And do I need two actual PCIe slots, or just one, and free space below it?
Even once you get all that shit pinned down, figuring out what card you need is an exercise in frustration. How fast of a card do I need? How do I figure that out? What's faster, the GTX 275 or the 9800 GTS? And while common sense would dictate that a Geforce 9600 would be more powerful than a Geforce 8800, it's not. And what's the difference between GS, GT, GTS, and GTX? And why is the GTX in front on the 260, 275, and 280, but after on the 8800? And why is GS "okay" on nVidia's cards, but actually a super-secret code for "do not buy this hewn-from-the-short-bus pile of shit" on ATi cards?
This doesn't even account for all the frilly bullshit the manufacturers do the cards.
I've easily built over 100 computers since I started doing it sometime back around 1999, and I still feel like bashing my head into a wall when I start looking through video cards for a new one.
Buying a Dell isn't a good use of money, but I can't really blame people who look at building their PC for the first time, seeing the tidal wave of bullshit that is video card and processor specs, and just saying "fuck it" and buying a pre-built system.
Here Here!
I still build my own computers, but man does it take a while sorting through all the shit if you aren't up to date on all the new processors and video cards. Shit, I still don't know what half of the functions on my motherboard are for. I just know it has everything I know I wanted.
Also, where is this game for sale for $45? I'd be willing to get it for that price, but not the $60 for the xbox version.
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I've done a bunch of computer maintenance and repair and built a handful, but I've been working with computers since I was eight or something like that. I vastly prefer to build a PC over buying one, but that's because I know what I want and I can get the biggest bang for my buck. However, I also have to occasionally remember the fact that to some people, computers are bewildering and confusing and have no reason to spend years learning about them. The PC I built recently for under $900 will last me a good 5-6 years with video card and RAM upgrades, but I knew what I wanted out of a system.
The ludicrous amount of PC parts of the market are a great reason while consoles do as well as they do; I may be willing to risk stupid crap like a game being non-functional before patches, but most people just want to be able to stick a disc in a system and play their game. In comparison to buying and setting up a brand-new console in a couple hours, I spent some two weeks looking at parts and doing research and building the system before I even had a functional system, much less something I could play games on.
If there are any Kiwi's/Aussies looking for some closer co-op players, we've just started a small (public) NZ-based Steam group over at GP forums. Feel free to join up.
I have an Xbox because it's easier to sell the wife on $50 for a new game than it is $X00 for a new whatever the hell I'd need to run this season's PC titles. Plus it's easier to just buy whatever rather than try to keep up with the Joneses technologically. I want to play games and have fun, not RP a half-assed hardware engineer.
Long time lurker registered just to get into some of this awesomeness. And I would like to thank the OP for bringing Borderlands and all its glory to my attention.
most people fail to realize that the biggest thing to consider when buying a graphics card is your monitor resolution. if you've got a 19 inch (like me), an 8800GT will max pretty much anything you throw at it. anything more is just increasing amounts of overkill.
what i find i DO need is a terabyte hard drive. i thought 400 gigs would be enough, but pretty much every game on my steam list is around 10 gigs, not to mention those i got off of D2D.
ANYWAY. most current PCs will be able to max borderlands.
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You've got to upgrade the PC more often than you upgrade your console.
For those of us with a limited gaming budget, that's pretty crucial. I've got to pay for games and hardware out of the same fund, so every dollar I spend on video cards or whatever is one less I can spend on games.
I'm not looking for a fight here, but I don't feel like sitting back and being told I'm doing it wrong because I'm playing on an Xbox.
Seriously.
I started out playing CoD4 and L4D on the PC, but when I realized a lot of my friends were getting them on the 360 and playing on live, or that I could have a friend over and we could just kick back and play some L4D splitscreen, I decided to go with certain games on the consoles. One isn't superior the other, it's just a matter of how you want to play.
Each has it's pros, the PC obviously has the mods, etc. but with Borderlands I am just looking at which would be the most comfortable and which my friends will be playing.
"hurf durf" my ass. I've already got the Xbox. Spending extra money on PC components defeats the point.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
"hurf durf" my ass. I've already got the Xbox. Spending extra money on PC components defeats the point.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
And I can't play it from my couch with my buddy on split screen.
I get it, you guys prefer the PC. I don't. I've given my reasons. You can either accept them or you can kindly fuck off. What I play it on is purely a point of personal preference, just like your choice.
"hurf durf" my ass. I've already got the Xbox. Spending extra money on PC components defeats the point.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
And I can't play it from my couch with my buddy on split screen.
I get it, you guys prefer the PC. I don't. I've given my reasons. You can either accept them or you can kindly fuck off. What I play it on is purely a point of personal preference, just like your choice.
I agree, let the man play with his friend.
Friends make playing games no matter what console it is for a lot better.
"hurf durf" my ass. I've already got the Xbox. Spending extra money on PC components defeats the point.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
And I can't play it from my couch with my buddy on split screen.
I get it, you guys prefer the PC. I don't. I've given my reasons. You can either accept them or you can kindly fuck off. What I play it on is purely a point of personal preference, just like your choice.
Actually, couch and buddies is a much better couple of reasons than "I have to buy a 1500 dollar video card every 2 months", because it's something real.
"hurf durf" my ass. I've already got the Xbox. Spending extra money on PC components defeats the point.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
And I can't play it from my couch with my buddy on split screen.
I get it, you guys prefer the PC. I don't. I've given my reasons. You can either accept them or you can kindly fuck off. What I play it on is purely a point of personal preference, just like your choice.
Actually, couch and buddies is a much better couple of reasons than "I have to buy a 1500 dollar video card every 2 months", because it's something real.
He could of taken all that money he spent on furniture and bought a better-than-xbox360-pc.
I built a pretty kickass PC a few months ago, and I'm still buying this on 360 because I prefer a controller, recliner, and 56" HDTV to KB&M, desk chair, and 22" wide monitor. Even though the vast majority of the people here seem to go with PC, I really don't want to go that way right now.
Cost is no part of this decision. It's just comfort.
Though I may consider the PC version somewhere down the line if Borderlands is completely fucking amazing, "Top 5 games ev4r" material.
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For the same reason the rest of us that own both did: good games on both platforms?
I can certainly understand not wanting to fork over hundreds of dollars for just one game, but upgrades are pretty cheap these days. 4 GB of DDR800 RAM will run ~$50. A video card that'll probably run this at maxed settings at 1920x1200 is less than $200. A modern dual-core CPU is $50.
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
Well you don't fork over hundreds of dollars for one game regardless if you're talking about an Xbox or PS3 or PC. I really want to play God of War 3 when it's released but I won't buy a PS3 because of it. I wouldn't upgrade/buy a new computer just to play Borderlands on it either. I would, however, buy an Xbox or build a new PC to gain access to all of that systems games (which is what I did).
I like gaming on the PC because if you build a brand new PC you can also keep it playing games for years and years for very little money. Perhaps buy more RAM, a newer video card, whatever.
Processor: Intel Pentium D 3.0Ghz /
AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+
Display Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series /
ATI Radeon X1600 Series
Memory: 1024MB
Even those of you who haven't upgraded their PC for a couple years should be close to that. Hell, I sold my last build (which I built over 2 years ago) to a friend in summer 2008 and it's as good or better than that depending on the part. I'm sure borderlands' version of the engine has its share of tweaks that will push the requirements higher, but it's at least a starting point.
Closer to $100 than $200. ATI 4870s are like $130 for the 1gb version, and they'll run pretty much every game out now at maxed settings and a playable framerate. If you're running lower than 19x10~ rez and have no plans to upgrade monitors, you can easily get away with a 512mb card.
I think many people just don't know how to plan upgrade paths when they build a PC. That, or they just buy a frickin' Dell or something. It's really not that expensive if you pay attention. I'd be glad to help, too.
Was pretty set on this anyway and that awesome deal solidifies it. As Wenchkilla said, there's just too much awesome coming out shortly.
Look at video cards alone:
You only have two brands - ATi and nVidia - but browsing at NewEgg, you see Sapphire and XFX and MSI and Asus and Biostar and Gigabyte and a dozen others. Is a Gigabyte GTX 260 different than an XFX GTX 260? Why does one Gigabyte GTX 260 cost $30 more than another Gigabyte GTX 260? What's the comparable ATi card to a GTX 260? What about a GTX 260 OC? Is that faster than a Radeon 4870? What about the 4870 x2? How much power does that require? Will it fit in my case? What sort of power connectors do I need? It says it takes up 2 PCIe slots, but is that PCIe 2.0 or just PCIe? And do I need two actual PCIe slots, or just one, and free space below it?
Even once you get all that shit pinned down, figuring out what card you need is an exercise in frustration. How fast of a card do I need? How do I figure that out? What's faster, the GTX 275 or the 9800 GTS? And while common sense would dictate that a Geforce 9600 would be more powerful than a Geforce 8800, it's not. And what's the difference between GS, GT, GTS, and GTX? And why is the GTX in front on the 260, 275, and 280, but after on the 8800? And why is GS "okay" on nVidia's cards, but actually a super-secret code for "do not buy this hewn-from-the-short-bus pile of shit" on ATi cards?
This doesn't even account for all the frilly bullshit the manufacturers do the cards.
I've easily built over 100 computers since I started doing it sometime back around 1999, and I still feel like bashing my head into a wall when I start looking through video cards for a new one.
Buying a Dell isn't a good use of money, but I can't really blame people who look at building their PC for the first time, seeing the tidal wave of bullshit that is video card and processor specs, and just saying "fuck it" and buying a pre-built system.
Here Here!
I still build my own computers, but man does it take a while sorting through all the shit if you aren't up to date on all the new processors and video cards. Shit, I still don't know what half of the functions on my motherboard are for. I just know it has everything I know I wanted.
Also, where is this game for sale for $45? I'd be willing to get it for that price, but not the $60 for the xbox version.
EDIT: Apparently on Direct2Drive as well.
The ludicrous amount of PC parts of the market are a great reason while consoles do as well as they do; I may be willing to risk stupid crap like a game being non-functional before patches, but most people just want to be able to stick a disc in a system and play their game. In comparison to buying and setting up a brand-new console in a couple hours, I spent some two weeks looking at parts and doing research and building the system before I even had a functional system, much less something I could play games on.
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I'm down. Think that means we need two more.
As stated previously in the thread, I'm down. I just don't want to handle the money.
Steam ID is in my sig.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
My steam id is http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198010852585 Hopefully that works if not let me know. And I might be interested in joining in on a 4pack if I can't convice 3 of my friends to join in.
Seriously £/$50 card from 4 years ago will run Borderlands at the kind of graphical settings and resolution you will find on the 360.
But I digress.
Borderlands will be awesome.
what i find i DO need is a terabyte hard drive. i thought 400 gigs would be enough, but pretty much every game on my steam list is around 10 gigs, not to mention those i got off of D2D.
ANYWAY. most current PCs will be able to max borderlands.
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Ladies and Gentlemen - I'm ready for preorder :winky:
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
For those of us with a limited gaming budget, that's pretty crucial. I've got to pay for games and hardware out of the same fund, so every dollar I spend on video cards or whatever is one less I can spend on games.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
It should be a bannable offense
Installing Quake Live last night to play with a friend killed the MBR of my PC, so I'm pretty much out of commission until windows 7 comes out :_(
I'm still willing to be part of one of the 4pack 4gies, though handling money is not one of my forté's.
edit: and don't have anything that can fix the MBR...
also, it was probably completely unrelated, but simply conveniently happened right after I installed QL.
I'm not looking for a fight here, but I don't feel like sitting back and being told I'm doing it wrong because I'm playing on an Xbox.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Seriously.
I started out playing CoD4 and L4D on the PC, but when I realized a lot of my friends were getting them on the 360 and playing on live, or that I could have a friend over and we could just kick back and play some L4D splitscreen, I decided to go with certain games on the consoles. One isn't superior the other, it's just a matter of how you want to play.
Each has it's pros, the PC obviously has the mods, etc. but with Borderlands I am just looking at which would be the most comfortable and which my friends will be playing.
Also, anyone interested in buying my 4th and final Borderlands gift should message me on Steam. Paypal required, sent as Personal, $33.75.
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Almost.
Then you chose... Unwisely.
You can go from a better-than-oxbox-pc to a better-than-xbox360-pc while spending less than what a xbox 360 costs (with built-in wi-fi and hundreds of GB of HDD), while NOT losing backwards compatibility to most games from the DOS era to now, including 99% of the good oxbox games.
Therefore, FUCK YEAH hurf durf. You bet you hurf durf.
Anyways, I already got it on steam, woo, WWB ftw etc.
I get it, you guys prefer the PC. I don't. I've given my reasons. You can either accept them or you can kindly fuck off. What I play it on is purely a point of personal preference, just like your choice.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I agree, let the man play with his friend.
Friends make playing games no matter what console it is for a lot better.
Actually, couch and buddies is a much better couple of reasons than "I have to buy a 1500 dollar video card every 2 months", because it's something real.
He could of taken all that money he spent on furniture and bought a better-than-xbox360-pc.
EDIT: Or some variant of "I want a gun that shoots ... that shoot bees!"
Cost is no part of this decision. It's just comfort.
Though I may consider the PC version somewhere down the line if Borderlands is completely fucking amazing, "Top 5 games ev4r" material.