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Major potentionally-life-crushing problem [UPDATE 5]

Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Oh my god what am I going to do?...That was a bit vague. I'll fill you in.

I've been with my girlfriend for 3 and a half years now. And in all that time I've never thought of anyone else. Like, never. She'd been my whole world and I love her to pieces.

But now someone's decided to throw a proverbial spanner into the works. A spanner in the form of a guy. See the problem yet? Well I was introduced to this guy through a friend a few weeks back. He's...well he's just gorgeous. I've never thought of another guy in that way before, and never thought about the possibility of being gay.

But ever since I met him I can't get him out of my head! He's just amazing. At first my thinking about him wasn't a problem, until it spilled over. Now I'm dreaming about him. And imagining him while I'm having sex with my girlfriend.

It doesn't help that this dude is openly bisexual and very, very flirty.

Needless to say this is one big-ass problem. I need some advice. How do I stop thinking about this dude?

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Being gay isn't life crushing. How old are you?

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Eighteen.

    And it wasn't being gay that was the problem. It's being insanely infatuated with a guy when I'm in a long-term relationship with a girl already that's the problem.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    How is that life crushing?

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  • apacke09apacke09 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You will never stop coming across people that you are attracted to. There is always the risk of meeting someone else and becoming infatuated, even if you've been married a long time and would never dream of cheating on your spouse, there is always that risk.

    The question is, are you committed to this girl or not? That's the question.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yeah, married people, or anyone in a long-term relationship, don't have some magic spell that makes them not find anyone else attractive.

    It comes down to what you want to do with those feelings. Breaking off a long-term relationship over a short-term infatuation is not a good idea. At the same time, you don't want to perpetually stay with someone that doesn't make you happy. It's up to you to decide at what point you should disregard something like this as a passing attraction, or a serious problem with your current relationship. Nobody else can tell you which of those two things it is, and it's something you will likely only find out with time.

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  • MadpandaMadpanda suburbs west of chicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Are you not used to being hit on by members of either sex? This can cause some mixed feelings if you are not used to it, and an overly flirtatious person is entered in to the mix.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    apacke09 and Nocturne have the best advice. Since I can't expand on it further, consider this my endorsement of them.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You're 18. You started this relationship when you were 14. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say that discovering you're bisexual is going to be the least of the changes you can expect to see in yourself, and in her, over the next few years.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Admanb is right. Given that you have another decade or so, at least, of growing up to do, you should expect to change enough as a person that you should be life-partnering with someone else than your current girlfriend. You probably have already.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Madpanda wrote: »
    Are you not used to being hit on by members of either sex? This can cause some mixed feelings if you are not used to it, and an overly flirtatious person is entered in to the mix.
    It's not just his flirtiness that does it. It's just him. Everything about him. He's gorgeous, funny, smart, the whole enchilada.

    And no, I'm not used to being hit on by guys. Never happened before

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I wholeheartedly maintain that almost nobody is completely straight. So undoubtable once in a blue moon you'll meet a member of the same gender that you find attractive.

    But that passing attraction is just that. Passing. It is nothing compared to the relationship you are in and have been in for a long time now. Focus on your girlfriend and your current relationship and your feelings for miscellaneous hot flirty guy will fade with time. Until they do fade, try to put him out of your mind.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Anecdotally I can offer this: I have had a lot of crushes on girls that I thought were wonderful and could barely think straight around (some of whom were very flirty with me even), but life prevented me from being able to act on for one reason or another. And every one of these crushes went away in a few months. Either I got to know them and realized I wasn't interested any more, or the feeling just faded period, since I chose not to feed it.

    So basically, you just need to make a choice and, if you choose to stick with the girl, just have faith and wait it out. (And try to have some mental discipline.)

    If it helps at all, my way of dealing with decisions like this, when all the back and forth is killing me, is to just pretend to choose one course of action (doing whatever noncommittal actions are necessary to make the choice seem real) and see how I feel about it. If I'm still feeling torn, then I decide on the alternative, and more often than not it is accompanied by a sense of relief and realizing that it was the right way to go all along.

    I dunno, it seems no different from imagining "what if", but I find I sometimes get so hung up on not having a clue what would happen "if" that it really helps to take a slightly different approach, and I am very good at fooling myself. It's just a trick to try and get a better read on the gut feeling basically.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    The guy with the Bill Hicks avatar is right.

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  • ascannerlightlyascannerlightly Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It doesn't help that this dude is openly bisexual and very, very flirty.
    or maybe it does help??

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Here's a good question? Do you feel sexually aroused - even in the slightest - when you hang out with him or think about him, like (I presume, anyway) you do concerning your girlfriend?

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    now that is some practical problem solving.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.
    Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Topia wrote: »
    Here's a good question? Do you feel sexually aroused - even in the slightest - when you hang out with him or think about him, like (I presume, anyway) you do concerning your girlfriend?
    I think is one question you really should answer to yourself.
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.
    Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?
    :winky::winky::winky:

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Yeah, married people, or anyone in a long-term relationship, don't have some magic spell that makes them not find anyone else attractive.

    This. I've been married for 8 years now and I still sometimes see a girl with a butt that makes me want to turn into a drooling wolf like a Tex Avery cartoon. Some people are just hot. It's OK to think that they're hot.

    Have you talked to your girlfriend about this? My wife and I sometimes talk about attractive people that we've met, or joke about which celebrities are on our list (Kristin Bell for me, Glen Phillips for her). We know that ultimately we find each other hot and that works for us, and it's fun to fantasize a little bit. Note, though, that for some relationships this would be a VERY VERY BAD IDEA.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    We do the same thing. We know we each find other people attractive, but as long as we don't, ya know, act on it, then it's all good.

    But it's the "he's a guy" thing. I've never been attracted to a guy before. Well not in any big way. One or two occasional "pretty hot" looks at celebrities, but never anything like this.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I have no idea about the whole gay thing, but you're talking about a long-term relationship that started when you were a little kid. And you're still a kid. I don't know a single person my age (nearly 30 now) who is still together a highschool sweetheart.

    So as far as that part people break up and move on. Just because you've gone out with a girl since you started high school doesn't mean you're going to be buried next to her.

    Besides with all this emo crap that's all the rage these days she might think it's hot you're into a dude.

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  • Durandal InfinityDurandal Infinity Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    GoodOmens wrote: »
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Yeah, married people, or anyone in a long-term relationship, don't have some magic spell that makes them not find anyone else attractive.

    This. I've been married for 8 years now and I still sometimes see a girl with a butt that makes me want to turn into a drooling wolf like a Tex Avery cartoon. Some people are just hot. It's OK to think that they're hot.

    Have you talked to your girlfriend about this? My wife and I sometimes talk about attractive people that we've met, or joke about which celebrities are on our list (Kristin Bell for me, Glen Phillips for her). We know that ultimately we find each other hot and that works for us, and it's fun to fantasize a little bit. Note, though, that for some relationships this would be a VERY VERY BAD IDEA.

    Its amazing how the right hiney can make you forget about the rest of the world, or that you have been drooling for 15 minutes.

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    We do the same thing. We know we each find other people attractive, but as long as we don't, ya know, act on it, then it's all good.

    But it's the "he's a guy" thing. I've never been attracted to a guy before. Well not in any big way. One or two occasional "pretty hot" looks at celebrities, but never anything like this.
    Have you shared those "pretty hot" celebrity thoughts with your significant other?

    If you have then I'm not seeing the problem. She knows and accepts that you find other people attractive, she knows you have occasional "guy-crushes". So what's going to be the problem with her knowing you have an attraction to a guy you know for real?

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    We do the same thing. We know we each find other people attractive, but as long as we don't, ya know, act on it, then it's all good..

    But it's the "he's a guy" thing. I've never been attracted to a guy before. Well not in any big way. One or two occasional "pretty hot" looks at celebrities, but never anything like this.

    So it's okay that you both know that you find other people attractive. You both are cool with it, just so long as you don't cheat on eachother.

    The only real problem is that you're suddenly attracted to a guy.

    Maybe you're afraid that you're gay? Well, you are not gay, so long as 'gay' is defined as being exclusively attracted to the same sex. You have a girlfriend and you have sex with her, so obviously you're attracted to some women. But you found an awesome guy who is amazing, and you're attracted to him, so obviously you're attracted to some men. You're not gay... But you're not completely straight either. You're somewhere in between.

    If anyone tells you that this shouldn't be a discovery that feels life-shattering, they're wrong. Because, for most people who actually go through this experience, that's exactly how it feels. We live in a society that's predominately heterosexual, so even if you're fortunate to grow up in a family that isn't prejudiced against gay people, you still don't normally see same-sex attraction expressed on a week-to-week basis. Most children and teens probably never see it. So when a teen discovers these feeling inside himself, it feels totally alien. And it's scary.

    But the cool thing is that it's okay. Even though it feels life-shattering right now, it really isn't that big of a deal. There are lots of folks who are sometimes or exclusively attracted to some members of the same sex - and they're doing just fine. No one's going to hate you for it, or really think less of you for it. (Except the bigots, but you don't need anti-gay friends any more than you need white supremacist friends.)

    Of course, it's possible that this really is just a one-time experience, and you'll never really be attracted to another guy again. It happens. Your body is changing, hormones are raging, and the brain sometimes does things out of it's norm - so maybe this is just a one time thing - and that's totally okay. But on the other hand, maybe you are genuinely attracted to girls and guys, and that's who you are. And that's cool too. You'll only know with time. So give it time.

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    KeyScourge wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    Here's a good question? Do you feel sexually aroused - even in the slightest - when you hang out with him or think about him, like (I presume, anyway) you do concerning your girlfriend?
    I think is one question you really should answer to yourself.
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.
    Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?
    :winky::winky::winky:

    This was going to be my suggestion as well. There are not many situations in which I would endorse this, but it seems the stars are in the proper alignment for you. It couldn't hurt to see if she's game.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Saddler wrote: »
    KeyScourge wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    Here's a good question? Do you feel sexually aroused - even in the slightest - when you hang out with him or think about him, like (I presume, anyway) you do concerning your girlfriend?
    I think is one question you really should answer to yourself.
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.
    Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?
    :winky::winky::winky:

    This was going to be my suggestion as well. There are not many situations in which I would endorse this, but it seems the stars are in the proper alignment for you. It couldn't hurt to see if she's game.
    I don't think she'd be into it. I'm not sure I'm into it

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Saddler wrote: »
    KeyScourge wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    Here's a good question? Do you feel sexually aroused - even in the slightest - when you hang out with him or think about him, like (I presume, anyway) you do concerning your girlfriend?
    I think is one question you really should answer to yourself.
    What's your girlfriend think of said studmuffin? Could be fun and now is the time.
    Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?
    :winky::winky::winky:

    This was going to be my suggestion as well. There are not many situations in which I would endorse this, but it seems the stars are in the proper alignment for you. It couldn't hurt to see if she's game.
    I don't think she'd be into it. I'm not sure I'm into it
    You find him sexually attractive, no?

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Attractive, yeah. Not sure about sexually attractive, but probably.

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yeah I'm not sure a threesome is a good idea... That's something that all sides would have to be extremely comfortable with. There are some grave emotional risks involved that should be taken seriously.

    Just because you're attracted to two different people doesn't mean that you'd like to have sex with both of them at the same time. =/

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
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    See how you feel when he's naked in the room with you, but there's nothing gay going on... yet:winky:

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Topia wrote: »
    See how you feel when he's naked in the room with you, but there's nothing gay going on... yet:winky:
    and how do you suggest I go about getting him naked in the same room as me?

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Topia wrote: »
    See how you feel when he's naked in the room with you, but there's nothing gay going on... yet:winky:
    and how do you suggest I go about getting him naked in the same room as me?
    Shower room is always a good place to see guys naked. People usually shower naked. And, just an idea, they usually shower right after they've been swimming. Maybe arrange for you to go swimming with him then when he strips off and goes in the shower you join him.

    Course that's just an idea. One of many possible solutions to the question of how to check out his naked body.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    KeyScourge wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    See how you feel when he's naked in the room with you, but there's nothing gay going on... yet:winky:
    and how do you suggest I go about getting him naked in the same room as me?
    Shower room is always a good place to see guys naked. People usually shower naked. And, just an idea, they usually shower right after they've been swimming. Maybe arrange for you to go swimming with him then when he strips off and goes in the shower you join him.

    Course that's just an idea. One of many possible solutions to the question of how to check out his naked body.
    See just hearing that stuff in relation to him turns me on so damn much.

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    KeyScourge wrote: »
    Topia wrote: »
    See how you feel when he's naked in the room with you, but there's nothing gay going on... yet:winky:
    and how do you suggest I go about getting him naked in the same room as me?
    Shower room is always a good place to see guys naked. People usually shower naked. And, just an idea, they usually shower right after they've been swimming. Maybe arrange for you to go swimming with him then when he strips off and goes in the shower you join him.

    Course that's just an idea. One of many possible solutions to the question of how to check out his naked body.
    See just hearing that stuff in relation to him turns me on so damn much.
    Then just try to get a look at him naked. See if your attraction isn't just in your mind. Hell hide in his closet and peer through the crack in the door when he gets undressed if you have to. :P

    Unless you've already seen him naked and that's what made you form an attraction to him...

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I've seen him shirtless, not fully naked.

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I've seen him shirtless, not fully naked.
    And?

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, hey, you need to not cheat on your girlfriend. I'm pretty sure cheating includes trying to get your potential love interest naked. Don't get in that habit.

    And no, cheating in the interest of self-discovery does not justify it.

    And furthermore, trying to seduce the guy instead of being up-front with him is just not cool. It's manipulative and dishonest. Also a bad habit.

    If you really want to see where things go with the guy, you need to be responsible and break up with the girlfriend. Then, be honest with the guy about your feelings on an objective level (e.g., "I'm bi"), and, you know, spend time with him. Date. Yeah, gay/bi people date too. Then see where things go once he's aware of your intentions.

    All I'm saying is - be honest, be responsible. Don't hurt your girlfriend by cheating on her. Don't disrespect the guy by attempting to seduce him.

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  • Reservoir AngelReservoir Angel __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Melkster wrote: »
    If you really want to see where things go with the guy, you need to be responsible and break up with the girlfriend. Then, be honest with the guy about your feelings on an objective level (e.g., "I'm bi"), and, you know, spend time with him. Date. Yeah, gay/bi people date too. Then see where things go once he's aware of your intentions.
    Wow! I don't wanna break up with her! I love her. Sure the guy is insanely hot, incredibly funny and I want him like hell, but I'm not going to dump Carly just for the chance of him. Not worth it.

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Melkster wrote: »
    If you really want to see where things go with the guy, you need to be responsible and break up with the girlfriend. Then, be honest with the guy about your feelings on an objective level (e.g., "I'm bi"), and, you know, spend time with him. Date. Yeah, gay/bi people date too. Then see where things go once he's aware of your intentions.
    Wow! I don't wanna break up with her! I love her. Sure the guy is insanely hot, incredibly funny and I want him like hell, but I'm not going to dump Carly just for the chance of him. Not worth it.
    So let's review. You love her. You want him. You can't cheat on her to 'experiment' with him, you can't seduce him because of the cheating problem. You can't dump her, but because of that you can never be with him in a way that would keep things okay between you and her.

    You my friend, are royally, and completely, fucked!

    Although I'm not sure if "accidentally" catching him out of his kit would count as cheating...better not run the risk though.

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