Video game sales thread: Movin' on, LOCK

toxk_02 · August 2009

NEWS:

PS3 Sales: weekly sales in UK up x11; In Japan, sells 150k in first week (2k last week)
http://gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25163

According to information provided to UK site VG247 by Chart-Track, combined PS3 and PS3 Slim sales are shown in the company's system as '+999%' over the previous week.

However: "The system is set to display +999% when it encounters huge increases, so the actual increase in PS3 unit hardware sell-through is around 11X - so 11 times what PS3 was selling the previous week."

In the same period, even though the Xbox 360 is up 29% week on week, the PlayStation 3 is the top-selling console, and is outselling each of the Xbox 360, DS Lite and Wii individually by around 3:1.

According to Chart-Track, this is the first time since January 2008 that the PlayStation 3 is the best-selling console in the UK, and game sales "have increased by 17% (units) over [last week], to claim 3rd place in terms of software format units, behind Xbox 360 & Wii."

3-D : Sony will have 3-D ready for TVs and PS3, 3-D in every home in 2010
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35654/Sony-3D-TV-in-every-home-next-year

HDD : (Rumor) New models with 250GB for PS3 and 360
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/fcc-document-indicates-sony-planning-250gb-ps3-slim/
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/27/amazon-germany-lists-xbox-360-with-250gb-hdd-forza-3-two-wirel/

When it rains PS3 news, it evidently pours PS3 news (which is better than pouring actual PS3s -- that'd hurt!). A document dug up on the FCC website by PS3News appears to hold proof that Sony is already planning a follow-up -- albeit in capacity only -- to the 120 gigabyte PS3 Slim announced today. Carrying the model number CECH-2001B (as opposed to ending in "A"), the unit is listed as sporting a 250GB hard disk.

The document states that the two consoles (along with two Slim debug unit models) were actually tested by the FCC back in March of this year and seem to have been sneakily submitted by Sony Computer Entertainment America under the guise of a fictitious business (Sand Dollar Enterprise) located at ... SCEA's Foster City, Calif. address. Sort of silly, if you ask us, but hey -- it worked.

....

After being the first major retailer to release info on the PS3 Slim before Sony itself had announced the system, Amazon Germany is at it again, outing a 250GB Xbox 360 model for 280 euros ($379). An eagle-eyed Engadget tipster spotted the listing, which includes two wireless controllers and a copy of Forza Motorsport 3 in addition to the massively embiggened hard drive.

Since Forza 3 won't be hitting shelves until October 23 in Europe, it stands to reason that this listing represents a deal still a few months off, though Microsoft could very feasibly release this new SKU (sans accessories) earlier. On the subject of new Xbox bundles, Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg told us in an interview yesterday that, "I'm sure there will be different offers depending on where you go and what time of the year it is." Looks like we've found at least one bundle so far! We've contacted Microsoft for comment and will update this post when we know more.

maximumzero wrote: »

I'm 23 and all I can tell you about the Beatles is that they were the equivalent of N'Sync in the 60s and then they had some trippy yellow submarine animation.

And John Lennon got shot.

That's about it.

maximumzero wrote: »

I'm 23 and all I can tell you about the Beatles is that they were the equivalent of N'Sync in the 60s and then they had some trippy yellow submarine animation.

maximumzero wrote: »

I'm 23 and all I can tell you about the Beatles is that they were the equivalent of N'Sync in the 60s

maximumzero wrote: »

the Beatles were the equivalent of N'Sync in the 60s

UNITED STATES

July NPD, July 5-August 1 (4 weeks)

NDS 538.9K (-12% MoM)
Wii 252.5K (-13%)
360 202.9K (6%)
PSP 122.8K (-6%)
PS3 121.8K (-6%)
PS2 108K (-13%)

NOTE:The PS2 NCAA is between 58k and 75k

Other software:

BlazBlue (PS3): 58k
BlazBlue (360): 52k
The Conduit: 46k (118k in 5 weeks)
Little King Story: less than 12k
Madworld LTD is less than 118k

NPD wrote:

Hardware sales have slowed considerably on nearly every platform. The Xbox 360 is the only console system showing a unit sales increase year-to-date, while the NDS has the highest sales of all hardware platforms both for the month, and year-to-date.

NCAA Football 10 was the top selling game for the month, with combined sales of 689K units across all platforms.

Wii Sports Resort was the top-selling software SKU for the month with 508K units sold with a 2.5% attach rate to the hardware install base.

Of all genres, the music/dance genre has suffered the greatest declines this year, with nearly $390 million less revenues than the same time period last year.

Sony revealed some data in their monthly response to NPD and a fresh version of their handy consumer-friendly console comparison chart, now including exclusive PSP connectivity!

SONY wrote:

In only its third year of its lifecycle, the PS3 system has sold 24 million hardware units and nearly 190 million software units worldwide.

PSP (PlayStation Portable) Sets the Bar for Best-in-Class Entertainment on the Go
With nearly 53 million hardware units sold to date around the world.

PlayStation 2 Continues To Prove It Still Has Game
Now in its ninth year, more than 139 million PlayStation 2 entertainment systems and an unprecedented 1.4 billion PlayStation 2 software units have been sold life-to-date around the globe.

JAPAN

Media Create August 24th - August 30th

Top 30 Software

01./01. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Friend Collection) (Nintendo) - 80,000 / 890,000 (-3%)
02./02. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Defenders of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) - 71,000 / 3,794,000 (-10%)
03./05. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 46,000 / 1,085,000 (+42%)
04./00. [360] Dream C Club (D3 Publisher) - 46,000 / NEW
05./03. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 34,000 / 836,000 (-33%)
06./00. [PSP] Soul Calibur: Broken Destiny (Namco Bandai) - 29,000 / NEW
07./00. [NDS] Super Robot Gakuen (Namco Bandai) - 28,000 / NEW
08./00. [NDS] You'll Incur Losses if You Remain Ignorant: How Money and Things Work DS (Nintendo) - 21,000 / NEW
09./08. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom) - 18,000 / 925,000 (0%)
10./00. [PS2] Hakuouki: Zuisouroku (Idea Factory) - 17,000 / NEW

11./06. [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Namco Bandai)
12./09. [NDS] Puyo Puyo 7 (SEGA)
13./00. [PSP] Hakuouki Portable (Idea Factory)
14./00. [NDS] Nanashi no Game: Eye (The Game with no Name: Eye) (Square Enix)
15./04. [PS2] Melty Blood: Actress Again (Ecole Software)
16./12. [NDS] Penguin no Mondai X: Tenkuu no 7 Senshi (A Penguin's Troubles X: 7 Warriors of the Sky) (Konami)
17./11. [PSP] Tales of Versus (Namco Bandai)
18./17. [NDS] Welcome Home! Chibi-Robo! Happy Rich Big Cleaning! (Nintendo)
19./14. [NDS] Blood of Bahamut (Square Enix)
20./00. [PS2] Memories Off 6: Next Relation (5pb)
21./16. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2009 Club Championship (Konami)
22./07. [PSP] Okami Kakushi (Sly Wolf) (Konami)
23./13. [NDS] Color Changing Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love (Nintendo)
24./19. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
25./00. [PSP] Ninja Clash: Tenchu San Portable (From Software)
26./15. [PS2] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes (Namco Bandai)
27./20. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
28./26. [PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (Konami)
29./24. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
30./00. [PS3] F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin (CyberFront)

NDS - 11
PS2 - 7
PSP - 6
WII - 4
360 - 1
PS3 - 1

__________________________________________________________________
|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  NDS  |     65,313  |     95,857  |  2,364,139  |  27,483,774  |
|  PSP  |     27,187  |     39,882  |  1,409,768  |  12,767,871  |
|  WII  |     26,972  |     47,732  |    931,284  |   8,410,261  |
|  360  |      8,979  |      9,162  |    272,153  |   1,101,590  |
|  PS2  |      3,295  |      4,907  |    162,778  |  21,562,307  |
|  PS3  |      2,052  |      5,944  |    651,441  |   3,273,909  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  DSi  |     59,578  |     87,936  |  1,997,324  |   3,228,683  |
|  DSL  |      5,735  |      7,921  |    366,815  |  17,669,620  |
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UK / EUROPE / PAL

UK Top 40 Software August 30th - Sept. 5th

For a second week, ‘Batman: Arkham Asylum’ holds tight at the top of the All Formats Chart ahead of Wii Sports Resort’ at No2 (-11%).

Sales of Eidos’ critically acclaimed title are only down 27% with the PS3 version gaining ground on the Xbox 360 version, boosted by bundling and the launch of Sony’s new PS3 Slim console at £249.99. Retailer bundling of Sony’s new cheaper and slimmer console has had a marked effect on the All Formats Chart this week with Activision-Blizzard and EA the main beneficiaries. ‘Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare’ (+128%) charges up the Chart from No10 to No3 – it’s highest position for almost 1 ½ years, while ‘Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10’ is up one place to No7, sales climbing by 38%. ‘Call of Duty: World at War’ (+7%) and ‘Fight Night Round 4’ (+68%) both witness strong increases in sales to the PS3 versions, however ‘World at War’ still drops 2 places to No8, while ‘Fight Night’ makes its way back into the Top 10, up 4 places to No9.

There is still room for 2 new releases in the All Formats Top 10 despite competition from PS3 hardware bundled titles - 505 Games debuts at No6 with ‘IL2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey’ and Square Enix’s RPG on PSP ‘Dissidia: Final Fantasy’ is new at No10.

01 (01) 360 Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
02 (02) PS3 Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
03 (03) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
04 (04) WII Wii Fit (Nintendo)
05 (__) PSP Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix Europe)
06 (__) PS3 Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
07 (07) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
08 (05) WII Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
09 (22) PS3 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
10 (14) 360 Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
11 (__) PS3 Il2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey (505 Games)
12 (__) 360 Il2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey (505 Games)
13 (09) PC The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
14 (__) PS3 Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
15 (__) PC Champions Online (Atari)
16 (__) PS3 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
17 (19) 360 Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
18 (29) PS3 Call Of Juarez: Bound In Blood (Ubisoft)
19 (13) WII Wii Play (Nintendo)
20 (23) 360 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
21 (21) NDS Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
22 (16) NDS Professor Layton And The Curious Village (Nintendo)
23 (06) 360 Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)
24 (__) PS3 Littlebigplanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
25 (24) 360 Fallout 3: Game Add-on Pack #2 (Bethesda Softworks)
26 (15) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
27 (__) PS3 Killzone 2 (Sony Computer Ent.)
28 (10) PS3 Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
29 (08) PS3 Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)
30 (18) WII Ea Sports Active (Electronic Arts)
31 (20) NDS Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo)
32 (32) 360 Halo 3 (Microsoft)
33 (27) 360 Sega Superstars Tennis (Sega)
34 (17) NDS Guitar Hero: On Tour (Activision Blizzard)
35 (25) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
36 (__) 360 Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
37 (12) 360 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
38 (11) 360 Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
39 (26) WII Lego Batman: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
40 (__) NDS 42 All-time Classics (Nintendo)

UncleSporky · August 2009

Huh, Punch Out still hanging out at number 15. I thought that game was done by now.

toxk_02 · August 2009

So Nintendo and EA take the entire top 10, the entire #1-#13, and 16 of the top 20 spots. Punch-Out holding strong, going #8, #15, and #15.

The Conduit: between 60k and 70k (~150k in 5 weeks)
BlazBlue (PS3): 58k
BlazBlue (360): 52k
Little King Story: less than 12k

Oh and:
Mario Kart DS: release November 14, 2005
NSMB DS: released May 15, 2006

maximumzero · August 2009

I absolutely love that everyone on the internet is like "OMG IS THE WII FAD OVER!?"

And it's only about the 50th time they've said it.

Rakai · August 2009

Mario Kart...it cannot die.

Lunker · August 2009

That about wraps it up for Nintendo.

I've been watching the madness unfurl on GAF, and it's amusing, to say the least.

Couscous · August 2009

Little King Story: less than 12k

That is really bad.

http://assets.vg247.com/current//2009/08/sonycomp.jpg

Everybody point and laught at Sony. They really don't get it.

I think it will be interesting if the Wii sales slump continues to be as drastic into the holidays.

maximumzero · August 2009

Also,

Thank you Nintendo, for finally releasing the White DSi in the US.

Wordherder · August 2009

Dammit, I demand a more hilarious title!

Ah well, nice work on the OP. Sorely needed it from someone less lazy than I.

At any rate, ye gods was this a low-selling month. Both NSMB Mario Kart DS made it into the top 10. Wii Sports Resort kicked ass for just being out a week. NCAA Football did surprisingly well (or did it do that well last year?) considering Madden's about to come out. Starfy did quite well. Punch-Out's holding in there, as is Prototype.

Wii's down, so is the PS3. 360's doing pretty well, actually.

Rakai · August 2009

I suspect Nintendo will be looking to drop its price soon. The PS2 only went 2 years (less than 2 in NA) before receiving a $100 price cut. The Wii is now nearing a 3rd full year without a price drop. That's damn impressive.

Lunker · August 2009

I honestly can't fathom DS sales, though. Everyone's noticing the natural slump of Wii sales (which I think is more of a return to normalcy than Beginning of the End of Waggle), but half a million DSes in the dead of July is crazy, when you think about it. Though my mom added a +1 to the DSi tally by picking one up for my nephew last month. I'm curious to hear if Nintendo will break down the split between DS Lites and DSis. Regular DS Lites were also down to $99 at Target last week ... I think I could see a universal price drop on the Lite this holiday season as a last hurrah for the system.

It's the perfect example of hardware sales driving the software: Everyone who picks up a DS grabs four or five must-have titles. I could probably set my watch by New SMB sales.

maximumzero · August 2009

Also, holy shit @ Starfy. I wonder if the other 4 titles would have sold as well if they had been released alongside their JPN counterparts.

Brainiac 8 · August 2009

Technically Nintendo could use the excuse that even slumping they are still slumping to number one, thus no need for a price cut...I just don't know if I see them doing it.

Punch Out is very impressive, it's too bad Little King's Story is doing so terribly...so much for a sequel.

lol @ NSMB and Mario Kart DS....the titles that just won't go away. :P

Edit: I just noticed Starfy....that is...surprising to say the least...I didn't think it would do that well. I could see it being a hit to the Kirby crowd.

toxk_02 · August 2009

Rakai wrote: »

I suspect Nintendo will be looking to drop its price soon. The PS2 only went 2 years (less than 2 in NA) before receiving a $100 price cut. The Wii is now nearing a 3rd full year without a price drop. That's damn impressive.

What I find interesting is Nintendo just released their quarterly report and did not adjust their fiscal year goal of selling 26m Wiis. They're notoriously conservative and even last year were adjusting their forecasts down each quarter. So either they know something we don't, or there's going to be a big downward revision when October's quarterly report is released.

Couscous · August 2009

maximumzero wrote: »

Also, holy shit @ Starfy. I wonder if the other 4 titles would have sold as well if they had been released alongside their JPN counterparts.

I wonder why Nintendo didn't localize them.

Zerokku · August 2009

Couscous wrote: »

maximumzero wrote: »

Also, holy shit @ Starfy. I wonder if the other 4 titles would have sold as well if they had been released alongside their JPN counterparts.

I wonder why Nintendo didn't localize them.

They thought the game was too "Japanese" for the west.

Honestly.

Brainiac 8 · August 2009

Couscous wrote: »

maximumzero wrote: »

Also, holy shit @ Starfy. I wonder if the other 4 titles would have sold as well if they had been released alongside their JPN counterparts.

I wonder why Nintendo didn't localize them.

In an interview with the creator, he said Nintendo never gave him the greenlight to localize them because the subject matter was considered too Japanese for us Americans to handle. He wanted to do it, but they would allow him to.

He said this was the first one they felt didn't contain too much Japanese stuff.

Edit: *shakes fist at Zerokku*

slash000 · August 2009

Nintendo can't just remain the top selling system, they must continue vastly outselling the competition, else the fad will end.

They can accomplish this by:
1. Price drop
2. Wii Sports resort pack-in
3. new colors
4. any combination of the above

None of that will happen this year I don't think. Maybe? I dunno.

slash000 · August 2009

Good to see Punchout have great sales legs, and to a lesser extent it's good to see Conduit still doing okay-ish numbers. LKS i didn't expect to sell well no matter what.

spamfilter · August 2009

Wait, if the Conduit sold 60-70k and does not show up on the top 20 list.

Doesn't that put the sales of 11-20 on the 60k to 96.8k range?

Also, Nintendo will only drop the price if dropping it will create enough extra sales to increase profit. They aren't running a race against the PS2, or some imaginary market share, they're in it to maximize profit.

Cameron_Talley · August 2009

One wonders if New Super Mario Bros. Wii will have the legs that NSMB for DS has. I can forsee that game selling a lot of systems this Christmas, assuming it comes out on time....

Also, The music game "crash" reminds me of the fighting game fad in the 90s. Everyone and their mother had to buy Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter II. Then they released bland fighting game after bland fighting game, and 15 bojillion versions of SFII, and it got old, and sales slumped appropriately....

maximumzero · August 2009

slash000 wrote: »

Nintendo can't just remain the top selling system, they must continue vastly outselling the competition, else the fad will end.

They can accomplish this by:
1. Price drop
2. Wii Sports resort pack-in
3. new colors
4. any combination of the above

None of that will happen this year I don't think. Maybe? I dunno.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Black Wii launch alongside Metroid: Other M in the US.

MinionOfCthulhu · August 2009

toxk_02 wrote: »

Little King Story: less than 12k

Fuuuuuuuuck. It deserves much better.

Lunker · August 2009

slash000 wrote: »

Nintendo can't just remain the top selling system, they must continue vastly outselling the competition, else the fad will end.

They can accomplish this by:
1. Price drop
2. Wii Sports resort pack-in
3. new colors
4. any combination of the above

None of that will happen this year I don't think. Maybe? I dunno.

See, I don't think a Wii Sports Resort pack-in would affect anything, really. Would it really draw someone to buy a $250 system that hadn't already bought a $250 system with Wii Sports in it?

And I still don't buy the argument that new colors really affects home console sales, though I have no evidence for it. Did PS2 sales change when they introduced the new slims that were white and pink and such? Also add in the fact that transferring VC and WiiWare titles is virtually impossible (eliminating the upgrade/collectability factor that always gave handheld systems a boost), and I don't think new colors will really spike any home console sales.

If there is any kind of price drop, though, I don't think it'll happen until next spring. I think Wii Fit Plus won't really make any sort of hardware splash (much like WSR didn't), but New SMB Wii could propel the thing to the fucking moon.

Brainiac 8 · August 2009

Cameron_Talley wrote: »

One wonders if New Super Mario Bros. Wii will have the legs that NSMB for DS has. I can forsee that game selling a lot of systems this Christmas, assuming it comes out on time....

Also, The music game "crash" reminds me of the fighting game fad in the 90s. Everyone and their mother had to buy Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter II. Then they released bland fighting game after bland fighting game, and 15 bojillion versions of SFII, and it got old, and sales slumped appropriately....

Ugh....I forgot about the figher game craze...remember the Street Fighter movie game...it was hilariously bad.

So does that mean Capcom was the Activision of fighting games.

Platformers did that around the time of the PS1 and N64...everyone wanted to have the next Crash or Mario.

Lunker · August 2009

Heh, I have sincerely fond memories of Primal Rage and Time Killers. Back then I was a huge fighting-game fan, but back then arcades were still cool.

Wordherder · August 2009

I really think Nintendo has high hopes for Wii Fit +, Wii Sports Resort and NSMB Wii. I'm not sure the first two will move hardware all that much, but Mario certainly will.

Brainiac 8 · August 2009

Remember Mace: The Dark Ages for the N64....it was horrible, but I played it at a freinds house for hours...but it was so horrible.

jothki · August 2009

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

maximumzero wrote: »

Also, holy shit @ Starfy. I wonder if the other 4 titles would have sold as well if they had been released alongside their JPN counterparts.

I wonder why Nintendo didn't localize them.

In an interview with the creator, he said Nintendo never gave him the greenlight to localize them because the subject matter was considered too Japanese for us Americans to handle. He wanted to do it, but they would allow him to.

He said this was the first one they felt didn't contain too much Japanese stuff.

Edit: *shakes fist at Zerokku*

One of the more annoying parts about Little King Story's lack of success is that it's one of the more Japanese games I've played recently. Not in terms of lolamericansaretoostupidtoappriciatethis, but it felt like there was a constant stream of cultural references that I could barely understand being thrown at me. Everyone is probably going to assume that that's why it failed, and never export anything like it again.

Wordherder · August 2009

To this day, I have no clue why my local Walmart, the bastion of family-friendly shopping, had a Time Killers arcade cabinet by the entrance for years.

Ah crap, now I'm getting nostalgic for the time you could find arcade games and, hell, arcades everywhere. There was just something fun about being able to play a little while shopping for groceries or getting pizza.

Lunker · August 2009

cloudeagle wrote: »

I really think Nintendo has high hopes for Wii Fit +, Wii Sports Resort and NSMB Wii. I'm not sure the first two will move hardware all that much, but Mario certainly will.

I wasn't sure about New SMB Wii at first, but the closest point of comparison I can find is:

Mario Kart DS : Mario Kart Wii :: New SMB DS : New SMB Wii

Which sounds completely obvious (and I've been spending way too much time studying for the GREs since my mind instantly formed that analogy :P), but considering all three of the released games have patently absurd sales and have helped propel hardware sales for the past couple of years, when you phrase it that way, I could imagine New SMB Wii ending up as one of the greatest selling titles of the generation.

HappylilElf · August 2009

Lunker wrote: »

Heh, I have sincerely fond memories of Primal Rage and Time Killers. Back then I was a huge fighting-game fan, but back then arcades still existed.

Fix'd

And now I made myself sad

Couscous · August 2009

So, what impact do you think the Xbox 360 Pro being cancelled and replaces by the Elite will have if it happens?

Jragghen · August 2009

Couscous wrote: »

So, what impact do you think the Xbox 360 Pro being cancelled and replaces by the Elite will have if it happens?

It's not a matter of if at this point, it's a matter of when.

And the result will be that I will most likely buy one before the end of the year.

slash000 · August 2009

I don't think it'll have a huge impact, honestly. It'll probably help somewhat though.

personal side question: The Elites are far less susceptible to RROD, right?

spamfilter · August 2009

If there is a Sony 80 GB price drop to $299, then having the 60 GB 360 priced at $299 would suddenly make Sony the better deal. So I think this is mostly a preemptive move so that when/if it happens, the 120 GB will still look like the better deal to the 80GB for the same price.

It's hard to predict the consequences of a preemptive move because you're comparing it against the theoretical of what would have happened without the move, which is all speculative.

Opty · August 2009

I think it'll help Microsoft in the "hey look, we dropped the price of our $400 console to $300" front to put more pressure on the PS3. Besides that not many people really looked at the Elite once the HDMI port was added to the normal system so I don't see much difference except for maybe some fence-sitters who told themselves "if only the 360 had more hard drive space standard, I'd get it."

Yellow Ranger · August 2009

slash000 wrote: »

I don't think it'll have a huge impact, honestly. It'll probably help somewhat though.

personal side question: The Elites are far less susceptible to RROD, right?

If the Elite console is a Jasper unit it will be drawing a lot less power, and generally run cooler than previous versions.

Here is a chart that shows the differences between the code names -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#List_of_revisions

Elites are not guaranteed to be Jasper units though, especially if it has been sitting on the shelf for a while.

Edit:You can tell before you buy it by looking in the hole in the box by the serial code bar.

Zerokku · August 2009

Yellow Ranger wrote: »

slash000 wrote: »

I don't think it'll have a huge impact, honestly. It'll probably help somewhat though.

personal side question: The Elites are far less susceptible to RROD, right?

If the Elite console is a Jasper unit it will be drawing a lot less power, and generally run cooler than previous versions.

Here is a chart that shows the differences between the code names -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware#List_of_revisions

Elites are not guaranteed to be Jasper units though, especially if it has been sitting on the shelf for a while.

Edit:You can tell before you buy it buy looking in the hole in the box by the serial code bar.

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Most of the non-jasper units were sold off in the Fable2/Halo3 bundle, since those were all bundles of falcon 360s.

Wordherder · August 2009

Couscous wrote: »

So, what impact do you think the Xbox 360 Pro being cancelled and replaces by the Elite will have if it happens?

It'll help sales a smidge maybe, but probably not by much. The public isn't impressed all that much by teh memoriez.

The bigger question is, how well would a $299 PS3 slim help PS3 sales? I'd wager they'll improve a fair amount but still remain third behind the 360. It's probably too late in the generation for the console sales order to really change.

Hedgethorn · August 2009

From the OP:

NCAA Football 10 was the top selling game for the month, with combined sales of 689K units across all platforms.

NCAA '10 came out for four systems: 360, PS3, PS2, and PSP. We know how many copies the first two sold (376.5K and 237.4K, respectively) and we know that the PS2 version sold more than 60K copies.

  689.0
- 376.5
- 237.4
-  60.0
--------
    15.1

So the PSP version sold 15K copies at most.

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