I don't quite understand why everyone thought it was so bad. The graphics were fantastic, the music was fantastic as always, there were no shitty friends, and even Chip was only there during cutscenes which you could skip most of the time. The Sonic levels were great as they always were and the Werehog sections played like God of War-lite.
I don't quite understand why everyone thought it was so bad. The graphics were fantastic, the music was fantastic as always, there were no shitty friends, and even Chip was only there during cutscenes which you could skip most of the time. The Sonic levels were great as they always were and the Werehog sections played like God of War-lite.
I saw very little to dislike in the game.
How can you say there was no shitty friends, and then mention Chip like 3 words later?
I actually thought unleashed was a decently mediocre game until I got to the final mandatory Super Sonic level(s). Those things were just god awful and left such a horrible impression, that I've somewhat forgotten about the main game.
I always thought it was agreed upon (atleast in these boards) that Unleashed was a step in the right direction, but it was just a single step. Doesn't mean anything unless SEGA continues walking in that direction.
I don't quite understand why everyone thought it was so bad. The graphics were fantastic, the music was fantastic as always, there were no shitty friends, and even Chip was only there during cutscenes which you could skip most of the time. The Sonic levels were great as they always were and the Werehog sections played like God of War-lite.
I saw very little to dislike in the game.
How can you say there was no shitty friends, and then mention Chip like 3 words later?
Because you weren't FORCED TO PLAY AS THE SHITTY FRIENDS.
Chip is single-handedly the most annoying friend that Sonic has ever had.
HEY SONIC!!!!
OH MAN I TOTALLY WANT SOME OF THAT ICE CREAM SONIC
As for the Sonic gameplay, it was the same problem that 3D Sonic has always had; shit comes at you too fast, leaving very little time to react, and instant deaths and pitfalls abound. So it's good that the new one will be in 2D.
As for the Werehog, it was certainly God of War-inspired, but, you know, without any of the fun.
And the hub world was the goddamn worst thing ever.
Chip is single-handedly the most annoying friend that Sonic has ever had.
HEY SONIC!!!!
OH MAN I TOTALLY WANT SOME OF THAT ICE CREAM SONIC
As for the Sonic gameplay, it was the same problem that 3D Sonic has always had; shit comes at you too fast, leaving very little time to react, and instant deaths and pitfalls abound. So it's good that the new one will be in 2D.
As for the Werehog, it was certainly God of War-inspired, but, you know, without any of the fun.
And the hub world was the goddamn worst thing ever.
I thought the Werehog stuff was even more fun than the Daytime stages, especially once you get all of his abilities boosted enough to get some of the nicer combos.
I'm glad shit came at you too fast in the day time stages. It forced you to memorize the stage and replay it until you got it perfectly. It's like people that play racers that are obsessed with the time trial mode, continuing over and over to hone their perfection to get the lowest time possible.
And the hub was was great because it made you explore the stages a bit more rather than just running from point A to point B as quickly as possible.
I guess that's a good way to put it. It's so satisfying when you can finish the level almost without thinking, just automatically going through the motions and pushing the proper buttons at the right time.
Oh Jesus Christ, I read the title of the article alone and I laughed.
People have been saying this for over 10 years now.
"The N64 could be the fall of Nintendo."
"The Gamecube could be the fall of Nintendo."
I don't people realize just how much money nintendo has.
Nintendo to buy Nintendo in five years?
I think the Nintendo defense on this board is a tad too rabid.
Virtually all the tech forums I'm on are full of people that bought a Wii, and are now cursing it because there are no games on it they like. Honestly, I can understand it in a way.
I don't find myself buying Wii games at all anymore. Outside of Nintendos games, there isn't that much. Yeah there are great gems here and there (mad world, no more heroes, muramasa) but in general, not that much. Having upgraded with a second TV (moved from a small 720p LCD to a massive 1080p plasma) the Wii's graphical short falls are now very glaring. While Virtual Console is great, I realized that I already have most of the games I'd want on their original system.
Most people I know with a Wii IRL, are all about Wii Sports and Wii fit. I mention same Mad World to them and they look at me all o_O
Nintendo's got a great customer base, but they do need more third party games.
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To be fair, we quote a random comment from The Nevada Sagebrush about how the Wii is doomed, then lol about how dum that guy is. So apparently comments and opinions are valid, but only when we select them. Rite?
So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
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So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
I imagine they'd do what they did with Unleashed; give it to another team.
Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
Technically it's not shooting themselves in the foot if they put it on the Wii, considering the past three Sonic games have sold amazingly well on the Wii. I'm pretty sure Unleashed sold the best on the Wii.
Now to change subjects, going back to Beatlemania. Remember how we were talking about Harmonix using Wii like channels to promote Beatles RB. Well on my way to work, I usually listen to Bob and Tom in the morning, and low and behold guess who was being interviewed on their show....a Harmonix rep talking about The Beatles RB.
This is one of two times they have used a show to focus partially on a video game. A couple years back they had a whole thing on the show about the Wii and WiiSports, as well as an interview with someone from Nintendo, and now The Beatles RB.
It just continues to convince me that it will sell very very well for the company.
So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
Technically it's not shooting themselves in the foot if they put it on the Wii, considering the past three Sonic games have sold amazingly well on the Wii. I'm pretty sure Unleashed sold the best on the Wii.
Now to change subjects, going back to Beatlemania. Remember how we were talking about Harmonix using Wii like channels to promote Beatles RB. Well on my way to work, I usually listen to Bob and Tom in the morning, and low and behold guess who was being interviewed on their show....a Harmonix rep talking about The Beatles RB.
This is one of two times they have used a show to focus partially on a video game. A couple years back they had a whole thing on the show about the Wii and WiiSports, as well as an interview with someone from Nintendo, and now The Beatles RB.
It just continues to convince me that it will sell very very well for the company.
Yeah, that's all they talked about on Rush Radio this morning as well.
Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
Well, the only argument I can give against this is that in the various Halo games, I feel like I am playing a sequel... blew up the Halo, now earth is getting invaded? Fuck yeah I am going to save earth!
I would argue that with the rare exceptions of Zelda II: Adventures of Link (oddly enough, my favorite of the oldschool Zeldas) and Majoras Mask, every console Zelda game has been "Ganon kidnapped the princess, collect the triforce and the master sword and kill him!" I know the storytelling gets better in each iteration, as do the graphics... but in many ways I get a very George Lucas-like vibe from the whole thing, where he would rather revisit his old stuff and make it look cooler than actually break fantastically new ground. Shit, I would settle for a revisit to the Zelda II formula, where the timeline was advanced and Link/Zelda married, and something goes wrong in Hyrule. All the old fans have grown up, please let the story evolve.
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Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
Well, people DO bitch about the proliferation of Call of Duty, and in general, Activision's practice of whoring out their franchises on a yearly (or more) basis. Also, the new halo game (ODST) looks to be the kind of departure from the Halo series that people who bitch about repetition ask for. You don't play the big hero of the universe main character, you're not even one of his fellow super soldiers. Your one of the grunts, and are forced to rely on stealth, rather than just shooting everything that moves. It's that sort of fresh take on the series that keeps things from becoming stale. 'course whether Reach will continue to evolve the series, or fall back onto existing tropes, remains to be seen.
Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
Well, people DO bitch about the proliferation of Call of Duty, and in general, Activision's practice of whoring out their franchises on a yearly (or more) basis. Also, the new halo game (ODST) looks to be the kind of departure from the Halo series that people who bitch about repetition ask for. You don't play the big hero of the universe main character, you're not even one of his fellow super soldiers. Your one of the grunts, and are forced to rely on stealth, rather than just shooting everything that moves. Quite honestly it's a fresh take on the series.
Frankly, I've heard plenty of people bitching about Halo as well.
Nintendo's tendency to rely on very, very similar remakes rather than sequels, is worth pointing out, though not necessarily bitching about (since they don't always do it). Zelda is hugely guilty of this, but the same is not true about all Nintendo IPs by any means.
So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
Technically it's not shooting themselves in the foot if they put it on the Wii, considering the past three Sonic games have sold amazingly well on the Wii. I'm pretty sure Unleashed sold the best on the Wii.
Now to change subjects, going back to Beatlemania. Remember how we were talking about Harmonix using Wii like channels to promote Beatles RB. Well on my way to work, I usually listen to Bob and Tom in the morning, and low and behold guess who was being interviewed on their show....a Harmonix rep talking about The Beatles RB.
This is one of two times they have used a show to focus partially on a video game. A couple years back they had a whole thing on the show about the Wii and WiiSports, as well as an interview with someone from Nintendo, and now The Beatles RB.
It just continues to convince me that it will sell very very well for the company.
Beatles RB got a quick mention on Good Morning America this morning, and apparently even über-hipster Pitchfork Media ran a positively glowing review of Beatles RB right alongside their thoughts on the Beatles reissues. I've heard the reissues are obviously selling like hotcakes, and if the rumored iTunes announcement does in fact come today, people will be on a Beatles high for weeks.
On Zelda: My beef with the series is the same beef I have with God of War, oddly. It's not really that revisiting similar themes or gameplay hooks is a problem—it's not, if you do it in a fresh way—it's that the pacing of every single game in each franchise makes me feel like I've played the game to death even when I'm playing it for the first time. Without even figuring out which game is which, I know in a Zelda game that I'm going to bomb cracked surfaces, shoot bullseyes with arrows, use Bombchus to scoot through tiny holes; I'm going to find an item in a dungeon and use that item to defeat the boss by hitting its weak point three or six times; I will collect three bafmodads before opening the larger quest of acquiring seven or eight more gizmos; etc. I loved A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening back in the day, but I never got into the 3-D Zeldas, and when I tried them further down the road they felt like stale imitations of their previous iterations. (Note that I tracked down the GC Collector Disc to try and tackle Majora's Mask specifically because it's supposed to subvert a lot of the classic Zelda tropes; it's on my short list of things to do next.)
God of War was the same thing. I loved the original. I picked up God of War 2, and it felt like God of War 1.2; same exact pacing, progression of abilities, even the same combo motions and visuals. Chains of Olympus was impressive as a portable game, but it was still God of War 1.35. A ton of people like that, but if I want that experience, I'll just replay the first game.
Nintendo is definitely not the only developer who falls into this quasi-remake category, but I think they take more flak for it because they're so immensely high-profile and they're well known as the premier developer on their own platform, so other companies look to them for a sense of direction. Like, say what you will about Square Enix's obvious reliance on literal remakes and the FF cash cow brand, but they take a retarded amount of risk by throwing out the baby with the bathwater and creating new engines, scenarios and setups for all of their major games.
Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
As Scarab said, the same Zelda format that people were used to 8 years ago (apparently, I never played them). People were bitching about "SO MANY HALOES!" when 3 was announced. You see no disparity there? As for Activision milking their franchises (Guitar Hero, Call of Duty), well, yes. People bitch up a storm about that. Hell they even do about sports games that practically require a yearly update due to the way the seasons work on an annual basis. So, no, it's not some attack specifically on Nintendo. It's just that they do sure like clinging to that format, and people do so love buying them regardless.
Dhani Harrison was on Conan last night plugging Beatles Rock Band, and he got Conan to play it (badly). Beatles Rock Band was apparently on Jimmy Fallon too, but then again it's Jimmy Fallon. Holy goddamn.
Picked up the game this morning, and there were a couple of late-middle-aged people picking it up. Anecdote anecdote lol and all, but still.
As for Sonic.... eh. Considering Sega's shouted from the rafters "HAI GUYS WE'RE REBOOTING SONIC AND MAKING HIM COOL AGAIN!!!one" twice already, I'm having a hard time getting excited about this one. Also, The Sonic Retard is having multiple orgasms over the announcement, which is always a bad sign.
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So this new Sonic game is supposed to be in HD. And they won't say what platforms it's for. Who wants to bet Sega will shoot themselves in the foot and not put it on the Wii?
Technically it's not shooting themselves in the foot if they put it on the Wii, considering the past three Sonic games have sold amazingly well on the Wii. I'm pretty sure Unleashed sold the best on the Wii.
Now to change subjects, going back to Beatlemania. Remember how we were talking about Harmonix using Wii like channels to promote Beatles RB. Well on my way to work, I usually listen to Bob and Tom in the morning, and low and behold guess who was being interviewed on their show....a Harmonix rep talking about The Beatles RB.
This is one of two times they have used a show to focus partially on a video game. A couple years back they had a whole thing on the show about the Wii and WiiSports, as well as an interview with someone from Nintendo, and now The Beatles RB.
It just continues to convince me that it will sell very very well for the company.
Yeah, that's all they talked about on Rush Radio this morning as well.
NBC News with Brian Williams had a 3-minute piece last night about Beatles Rock Band, complete with the reporter playing guitar.
Yeah, you guys nailed it. The reason why people give the Zelda series grief is because it's not so much a series as it is a couple of games remade endlessly.
Although to be fair, Twilight Princess was a lot better version of Ocarina of Time than the original ever was.
Yeah, you guys nailed it. The reason why people give the Zelda series grief is because it's not so much a series as it is a couple of games remade endlessly.
Although to be fair, Twilight Princess was a lot better version of Ocarina of Time than the original ever was.
That and the style changes way to rapidly. 1 and 2 were pretty dark and gloomy, three slightly less so. Since then that's changed a good bit. I prefer the 2d ones, 3d Zelda never worked for me.
Yeah, you guys nailed it. The reason why people give the Zelda series grief is because it's not so much a series as it is a couple of games remade endlessly.
Although to be fair, Twilight Princess was a lot better version of Ocarina of Time than the original ever was.
My two favourite Zeldas are Link to the Past and Wind Waker. Those styles don't get much remake action. Too bad.
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Super Mario Galaxy is probably my favorite Mario since Super Mario World.
A Link to the Past is still my favorite Zelda, and so far none have touched it. (Of course I haven't played any of them beyond OoT. Guess I'm more a Mario/Samus fan than Link)
Man what I don't get is why people come down on Nintendo for supposedly rereleasing the same games over and over and not anyone else. Especially since Nintendo tends to release only one, maybe two games in each franchise per generation.
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
Well, the only argument I can give against this is that in the various Halo games, I feel like I am playing a sequel... blew up the Halo, now earth is getting invaded? Fuck yeah I am going to save earth!
I would argue that with the rare exceptions of Zelda II: Adventures of Link (oddly enough, my favorite of the oldschool Zeldas) and Majoras Mask, every console Zelda game has been "Ganon kidnapped the princess, collect the triforce and the master sword and kill him!" I know the storytelling gets better in each iteration, as do the graphics... but in many ways I get a very George Lucas-like vibe from the whole thing, where he would rather revisit his old stuff and make it look cooler than actually break fantastically new ground. Shit, I would settle for a revisit to the Zelda II formula, where the timeline was advanced and Link/Zelda married, and something goes wrong in Hyrule. All the old fans have grown up, please let the story evolve.
Now that I think about it, the plots of Halo 2 & 3 are actually very similar as well.
You start out on Earth, no (in-game) explanation how you got there from the previous installment, then you travel to a Forerunner Installation by means of a slipspace portal the Covenant open up over New Mombassa.
A general synopsis, yes, but nothing that matches the fantastic storytelling from the first Halo.
Yeah, you guys nailed it. The reason why people give the Zelda series grief is because it's not so much a series as it is a couple of games remade endlessly.
Although to be fair, Twilight Princess was a lot better version of Ocarina of Time than the original ever was.
No. Just no.
Ocarina of Time was very important towards game development, I'll give it that, but it wasn't that fun. It wasn't until the Gamecube Zeldas, that Nintendo really started to understand how to make Zelda really work in 3D (to be fair, I haven't played Mask).
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Sadly, it was.
I saw very little to dislike in the game.
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How can you say there was no shitty friends, and then mention Chip like 3 words later?
I actually thought unleashed was a decently mediocre game until I got to the final mandatory Super Sonic level(s). Those things were just god awful and left such a horrible impression, that I've somewhat forgotten about the main game.
I always thought it was agreed upon (atleast in these boards) that Unleashed was a step in the right direction, but it was just a single step. Doesn't mean anything unless SEGA continues walking in that direction.
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Because you weren't FORCED TO PLAY AS THE SHITTY FRIENDS.
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HEY SONIC!!!!
OH MAN I TOTALLY WANT SOME OF THAT ICE CREAM SONIC
As for the Sonic gameplay, it was the same problem that 3D Sonic has always had; shit comes at you too fast, leaving very little time to react, and instant deaths and pitfalls abound. So it's good that the new one will be in 2D.
As for the Werehog, it was certainly God of War-inspired, but, you know, without any of the fun.
And the hub world was the goddamn worst thing ever.
I thought the Werehog stuff was even more fun than the Daytime stages, especially once you get all of his abilities boosted enough to get some of the nicer combos.
I'm glad shit came at you too fast in the day time stages. It forced you to memorize the stage and replay it until you got it perfectly. It's like people that play racers that are obsessed with the time trial mode, continuing over and over to hone their perfection to get the lowest time possible.
And the hub was was great because it made you explore the stages a bit more rather than just running from point A to point B as quickly as possible.
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It's like people and their Metroid Speedruns.
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I see where you're going to try to go with this, so just stop before you do.
There's a difference between trying a level and failing because you suck, and the game throwing up surprise brick walls at you without time to react.
To be fair, we quote a random comment from The Nevada Sagebrush about how the Wii is doomed, then lol about how dum that guy is. So apparently comments and opinions are valid, but only when we select them. Rite?
Actually I was hoping you would say poetry, and a glass of scotch.
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I imagine they'd do what they did with Unleashed; give it to another team.
*Insert smug comment about being able to compete with Nintendo at making kiddie games*
When was he not?
Yet it's okay to be pumped for the fourth Halo game since 2001, with a fifth already announced and on the way. It's cool to look forward to modern warfare 2, even with YEARLY Call of Duty releases. It's fine to want more GTA after III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV and its multiple expansions.
Nintendo comes out with a Zelda that's similar to previous ones and all of a sudden I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS SAME OLD SHIT FUCK YOU NINTENDO.
When he was supposed to be for cool and mature people, unlike Mario who is for kiddies.
You must have missed the SNES vs Genesis propaganda years. Good times.
Technically it's not shooting themselves in the foot if they put it on the Wii, considering the past three Sonic games have sold amazingly well on the Wii. I'm pretty sure Unleashed sold the best on the Wii.
Now to change subjects, going back to Beatlemania. Remember how we were talking about Harmonix using Wii like channels to promote Beatles RB. Well on my way to work, I usually listen to Bob and Tom in the morning, and low and behold guess who was being interviewed on their show....a Harmonix rep talking about The Beatles RB.
This is one of two times they have used a show to focus partially on a video game. A couple years back they had a whole thing on the show about the Wii and WiiSports, as well as an interview with someone from Nintendo, and now The Beatles RB.
It just continues to convince me that it will sell very very well for the company.
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Yeah, that's all they talked about on Rush Radio this morning as well.
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Seeing as the previous game was Sonic 2006, "a step forward" doesn't mean much. It's still gaming vomit.
Unleashed on PS3 has the most nauseating framerate I've had the misfortune to experience this generation too.
Well, the only argument I can give against this is that in the various Halo games, I feel like I am playing a sequel... blew up the Halo, now earth is getting invaded? Fuck yeah I am going to save earth!
I would argue that with the rare exceptions of Zelda II: Adventures of Link (oddly enough, my favorite of the oldschool Zeldas) and Majoras Mask, every console Zelda game has been "Ganon kidnapped the princess, collect the triforce and the master sword and kill him!" I know the storytelling gets better in each iteration, as do the graphics... but in many ways I get a very George Lucas-like vibe from the whole thing, where he would rather revisit his old stuff and make it look cooler than actually break fantastically new ground. Shit, I would settle for a revisit to the Zelda II formula, where the timeline was advanced and Link/Zelda married, and something goes wrong in Hyrule. All the old fans have grown up, please let the story evolve.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Well, people DO bitch about the proliferation of Call of Duty, and in general, Activision's practice of whoring out their franchises on a yearly (or more) basis. Also, the new halo game (ODST) looks to be the kind of departure from the Halo series that people who bitch about repetition ask for. You don't play the big hero of the universe main character, you're not even one of his fellow super soldiers. Your one of the grunts, and are forced to rely on stealth, rather than just shooting everything that moves. It's that sort of fresh take on the series that keeps things from becoming stale. 'course whether Reach will continue to evolve the series, or fall back onto existing tropes, remains to be seen.
Frankly, I've heard plenty of people bitching about Halo as well.
Nintendo's tendency to rely on very, very similar remakes rather than sequels, is worth pointing out, though not necessarily bitching about (since they don't always do it). Zelda is hugely guilty of this, but the same is not true about all Nintendo IPs by any means.
Beatles RB got a quick mention on Good Morning America this morning, and apparently even über-hipster Pitchfork Media ran a positively glowing review of Beatles RB right alongside their thoughts on the Beatles reissues. I've heard the reissues are obviously selling like hotcakes, and if the rumored iTunes announcement does in fact come today, people will be on a Beatles high for weeks.
On Zelda: My beef with the series is the same beef I have with God of War, oddly. It's not really that revisiting similar themes or gameplay hooks is a problem—it's not, if you do it in a fresh way—it's that the pacing of every single game in each franchise makes me feel like I've played the game to death even when I'm playing it for the first time. Without even figuring out which game is which, I know in a Zelda game that I'm going to bomb cracked surfaces, shoot bullseyes with arrows, use Bombchus to scoot through tiny holes; I'm going to find an item in a dungeon and use that item to defeat the boss by hitting its weak point three or six times; I will collect three bafmodads before opening the larger quest of acquiring seven or eight more gizmos; etc. I loved A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening back in the day, but I never got into the 3-D Zeldas, and when I tried them further down the road they felt like stale imitations of their previous iterations. (Note that I tracked down the GC Collector Disc to try and tackle Majora's Mask specifically because it's supposed to subvert a lot of the classic Zelda tropes; it's on my short list of things to do next.)
God of War was the same thing. I loved the original. I picked up God of War 2, and it felt like God of War 1.2; same exact pacing, progression of abilities, even the same combo motions and visuals. Chains of Olympus was impressive as a portable game, but it was still God of War 1.35. A ton of people like that, but if I want that experience, I'll just replay the first game.
Nintendo is definitely not the only developer who falls into this quasi-remake category, but I think they take more flak for it because they're so immensely high-profile and they're well known as the premier developer on their own platform, so other companies look to them for a sense of direction. Like, say what you will about Square Enix's obvious reliance on literal remakes and the FF cash cow brand, but they take a retarded amount of risk by throwing out the baby with the bathwater and creating new engines, scenarios and setups for all of their major games.
As Scarab said, the same Zelda format that people were used to 8 years ago (apparently, I never played them). People were bitching about "SO MANY HALOES!" when 3 was announced. You see no disparity there? As for Activision milking their franchises (Guitar Hero, Call of Duty), well, yes. People bitch up a storm about that. Hell they even do about sports games that practically require a yearly update due to the way the seasons work on an annual basis. So, no, it's not some attack specifically on Nintendo. It's just that they do sure like clinging to that format, and people do so love buying them regardless.
Picked up the game this morning, and there were a couple of late-middle-aged people picking it up. Anecdote anecdote lol and all, but still.
As for Sonic.... eh. Considering Sega's shouted from the rafters "HAI GUYS WE'RE REBOOTING SONIC AND MAKING HIM COOL AGAIN!!!one" twice already, I'm having a hard time getting excited about this one. Also, The Sonic Retard is having multiple orgasms over the announcement, which is always a bad sign.
NBC News with Brian Williams had a 3-minute piece last night about Beatles Rock Band, complete with the reporter playing guitar.
Although to be fair, Twilight Princess was a lot better version of Ocarina of Time than the original ever was.
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That and the style changes way to rapidly. 1 and 2 were pretty dark and gloomy, three slightly less so. Since then that's changed a good bit. I prefer the 2d ones, 3d Zelda never worked for me.
No. Just no.
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PSP: 110k
PS3: 140k
360: 190k
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Madden PS3: 590k
Batman: Arkham Asylum 360: 300k
Batman: Arkham Asylum PS3: 275k
Madden PS2: 225k
Wii Fit: 125k
Madden Wii: 125k
Dissidia Final Fantasy PSP: 120k
Mario Kart Wii: 118k
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A Link to the Past is still my favorite Zelda, and so far none have touched it. (Of course I haven't played any of them beyond OoT. Guess I'm more a Mario/Samus fan than Link)
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Now that I think about it, the plots of Halo 2 & 3 are actually very similar as well.
A general synopsis, yes, but nothing that matches the fantastic storytelling from the first Halo.
Ocarina of Time was very important towards game development, I'll give it that, but it wasn't that fun. It wasn't until the Gamecube Zeldas, that Nintendo really started to understand how to make Zelda really work in 3D (to be fair, I haven't played Mask).
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