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The Dark Tower (SPOILER WARNING)

DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss.Registered User regular
edited May 2007 in Graphic Violence
The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Are you looking for confirmation? Discussion? People talking about how insanely awesome the Dark Tower series is? If you specify, I'll do any of the above... just not sure what you're looking for.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Jae Lee's art on this is OMG crazy good. I'm giddy with excitement.

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  • RonnieWooWoo!RonnieWooWoo! Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    What the shit? Where did this come from, and when did it get here? Elaboration, post haste.

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    Woo!
  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2006
    This was announced like six months ago. It's supposed to start in January, I think. King basically did the story, and Peter David is scripting it.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Isn't it supposed to concern itself with the events directly after Roland's story in Wizard and Glass?

    I'm hella excited, but I thought it was to come out in December. :(

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Langly wrote:
    Isn't it supposed to concern itself with the events directly after Roland's story in Wizard and Glass?

    I'm hella excited, but I thought it was to come out in December. :(

    It got pushed back to January. They released a free sketch book for it last week.

    I think the story probably jumps around. The sketch book had David the Hawk, but it also had Susan, and Jonas also.

    Either way, I am so excited about this. visibly excited...

    I do think though, that the events that occured after Wizards and Glass, things like Jericho Hill and Cuthbert, Alain, and John's deaths needs some serious detail added, so I do hope that is what this series is about.

    Just my two cents.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Yeah, Steven King said the main story of this starts a few months after Wizard and Glass.

    God, I hope they do Jericho Hill.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    My entire knowledge of the Dark Tower begins and ends with "Touched by the Crimson King", by Demons & Wizards.

    I'm still pretty fucking excited for this.

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  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It was supposed to come out in april of this year

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I put this on my pull list because I thought it was gonna be like Anita Blake (a comic adaptation). Then I found out it was new story and was slightly disappointed because I hadn't found the energy to read the books. Then I got the sketchbook and felt a bit better about the series. If I'd know that Peter David had a hand in this, my doubts would've cleared away in an instant. :P

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2006
    It was supposed to come out in april of this year

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    At least there won't be any month-to-month delays.

    Since apparently Jae Lee's done with the first five issues now.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    As good as this should be, do yourself a favor and read the novels first. I honestly cant think of any way to write how good they are.

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    As good as this should be, do yourself a favor and read the novels first. I honestly cant think of any way to write how good they are.

    The first book was probably the high point of Steven King's talent as a writer. Fantastic from start to finish.

    The last book was an abomination. The "final confrontation/battle" with the Crimson King was the lamest fucking thing I have ever read.

    I've never been more disappointed and let down by the end of a series ever.

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    Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver.
    Situation excellent. I am attacking.

    - General Ferdinand Foch
  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    Confirmation? Discussion? People talking about how insanely awesome the Dark Tower series is?

    I'll take B and C. :)

    I started the series with the expanded and revised The Gunslinger when it first came out in 2003. I read all the way up through Wizard and Glass, and at that point that was all there was. Recently I've been possessed by a desire to see it through to the end, but I wanted to start over and read them all from start to finish. I've kept clear of spoilers this far, I've heard only that King ended it the only possible way he could, so let's steer clear of discussion of that.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Judas wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    As good as this should be, do yourself a favor and read the novels first. I honestly cant think of any way to write how good they are.

    The first book was probably the high point of Steven King's talent as a writer. Fantastic from start to finish.

    The last book was an abomination. The "final confrontation/battle" with the Crimson King was the lamest fucking thing I have ever read.

    I've never been more disappointed and let down by the end of a series ever.

    Harry Potter is poised to disappoint the hell out of me. I'm very antsy about the final book, especially after a relatively mediocre 6th book.

    Anyway, my reasoning here is that, if I like the way this comic plays out, I'll check out the books.

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Well, like I said, the first book ( most of the rest of the series ) is fantastic. Please don't let my problems with the finale put you off the series.

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    Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver.
    Situation excellent. I am attacking.

    - General Ferdinand Foch
  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2006
    I really liked the last book.

    And I think IT and the Stand are equal to the Dark Tower series in terms of quality.

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Geebs

    that is a very dangerous thing to say

    and by very dangerous I mean you are wrong.

    I'm not sure if I'm qualified to comment though, because I had issues with The Stand's ending, and that probably makes me a bad person.

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  • CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    I really liked the last book.

    And I think IT and the Stand are equal to the Dark Tower series in terms of quality.

    I too enjoyed the last book. Parts of it seemed to harken back to the more solitary and lonely journey of book one; it was nice to see it wrapped together like that.

    The ending bugged me when I first read it, but I've gotten used to it since then.

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  • Kshah777Kshah777 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I am getting slowly more and more pumped every time I see this. Slowly because, like Judas, the final book let me cold and angry. Actually, the moment
    Stephen King put himself in the goddamn story
    is when it started to go downhll for me. But the first story I read was Wizard and Glass, and I think it's still my favorite. So all this about Roland's youth has gotten me into it again.

    Nerd side note: did anyone read the Eyes of the Dragon, and expect King to wrap up the whole
    "they caught up with Flagg eventually and messed his ass up" teaser at the end? Because Flagg died like a little bitch in DT.

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  • CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Kshah777 wrote:
    Nerd side note: did anyone read the Eyes of the Dragon, and expect King to wrap up the whole
    "they caught up with Flagg eventually and messed his ass up" teaser at the end? Because Flagg died like a little bitch in DT.
    Yeah, that was definitely the biggest disappointment with the book. With all the characters from other books that were brought in, its a disappointment they didn't do that to wrap it up.

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Kshah777 wrote:
    Nerd side note: did anyone read the Eyes of the Dragon, and expect King to wrap up the whole
    "they caught up with Flagg eventually and messed his ass up" teaser at the end? Because Flagg died like a little bitch in DT.

    FUCK YES.

    Fuck yes, indeed.

    I'm not going to derail this thread any more then I already have. Suffice to say, I expected an apocalyptic bang, and instead got a long drawn out whimper.

    Back on topic - I'll be picking up the first issue of this series; the art looks great so far, so I've got a good feeling about it.

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    Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver.
    Situation excellent. I am attacking.

    - General Ferdinand Foch
  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Fuck it... welcome to the new Dark Tower thread..

    anyway, my thoughts:

    On first read through, it seemed like the last three books in the series were rushed, that King just wanted to be finished. But, then I reread them and started thinking...

    These books spanned King's entire career. I mean, he wrote the first one when he was still in college... I can't even imagine this kind of undertaking, or how much of himself he had to put in this novel. I can kind of understand him feeling like it was bigger then himself, and writing himself in to compensate.

    That being said, Flagg's death and Jericho Hill really did seem to be rushed.. either way, they did not get the consideration they deserved.

    The fight with the Crimson King was fine, I thought... he was never more then an obstacle to begin with, he was never the goal.

    The ending of the last book also grew on me.

    Man, this was long... and probably pointless. But read the books... overall they are very good.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I finished Wizard and Glass over the summer when I still had time to read and I plan on finishing the next one over christmas break. I have to say I have absolutely loved this series and Wizard and Glass was completely bad ass and I loved it.
    so fucking awesome

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I know a lot of people had problems with the ending - but after everything that led into it, there was no way that Stephen King could have pleased everybody, no matter how the book ended.

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  • MaladictMaladict Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    On Randall Flagg:
    I read the Randall Flagg entry on wikipedia and I think I'm more a follower of the positive side of it, than of the negative. Sure, epic battles are great and all, but the fact that he just dies from such a pointless little thing is just great. He didn't die a hero's death, even in his own eyes. Go out with a bang, you might as well be a martyr.

    Did anyone pick up the little sketch issue with a black and white preview of the coming issue? I think it looks pretty damn good, actually.

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It'll be interesting to see what new content we'll get in the mini-series, especially added in-between stuff we already know. While it may hurt the amount of new plot we'll get, I hope David and King don't try to stuff all of Wizard And Glass' flashback into just issue#2. Concidering that I haven't seen the mini-series listed as a MAX, I wonder exactly how the sexual content involved in W&G will be affected.

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  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Despite coming away from the last three books feeling more than a little disappointed, I had to admit there were a few fantastic little pieces here and there, though I guess they had to do more with presentation than plot.

    Specifically, the narrative voice. The whole omniscient, folky kind of voice King's been nurturing for over a decade was allowed to creep in to the books, giving the last three a more personal nature, even without King's (utterly unnecessary, in my opinion) inserting himself into the story. I would have loved for such a narrative voice to have been present in all 7 of the books.

    And I'm one of the few who though the ending was genuinely genius, for the following reasons:
    1. Roland was scared shitless, a fact terrifying on its own.

    2. It allows for King - if he so wished - or anyone else for that matter, to re-write the books for themselves. It grants the series an infinite scope for re-writes, while explaining away inconsistencies in future adaptations as merely one of Roland's earlier or later journeys.

    3. Don't tell me Roland's trip up the Tower didn't give you goosebumps. Even the 'apology' leading up to it had the air of the epic surrounding it.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I can't decide which I like more - Wizard and Glass or The Gunslinger. I'd probably give it to Wizard and Glass, though.
    Susaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! Noooooooooo!

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Delzhand wrote:
    I can't decide which I like more - Wizard and Glass or The Gunslinger. I'd probably give it to Wizard and Glass, though.
    Susaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! Noooooooooo!

    Honestly, I don't even know how that is a contest. I guess if you read the revised Gunslinger first...

    I appreciate the Gunslinger for the writing, and how inexperienced he was when he wrote it, but honestly, when I read back through the Dark Tower series ever 1-2 years, I usually skip that one.

    Wizard and Glass is my favorite, followed by Wasteland, then Wolves of the Calla.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Lobstrosity is an awesome word.

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  • tony_importanttony_important Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I have a little sketchbook preview that marvel put out.
    I'll grab my camera and snap some photos if anybody is interested.

    My scanner is broken, so there's no hope for any scans.

    Photos though.

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  • ChorazinChorazin Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Years ago King promised a sequel to Dragon, but so far hasn't delivered. With the end of the Dark Tower I doubt he will now. :(

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    There was also supposed to be a third Jack Sawyer book (The Talisman, Black House), but that one might actually come along some time. I was upset he never met Roland... that should change.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    There was also supposed to be a third Jack Sawyer book (The Talisman, Black House), but that one might actually come along some time. I was upset he never met Roland... that should change.

    Goddamn yes. I've been waiting for a third Talisman book for years.

    They cannot do all the DT connections in BH and not follow up on it.

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  • ChorazinChorazin Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Bloods End wrote:
    Sentry wrote:
    There was also supposed to be a third Jack Sawyer book (The Talisman, Black House), but that one might actually come along some time. I was upset he never met Roland... that should change.

    Goddamn yes. I've been waiting for a third Talisman book for years.

    They cannot do all the DT connections in BH and not follow up on it.

    I 100% agree.

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  • tony_importanttony_important Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    wait, will i get castrated for posting photos of the sketchbook preview?

    It's promo material, and it was free.

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  • tony_importanttony_important Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    aaaah, fuck it, I'm just going to post them

    They're not fantastic shots, as they were done in a flash.

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    That last one says "on sale, 2/7/07".

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Man, I really love that artwork.

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    Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver.
    Situation excellent. I am attacking.

    - General Ferdinand Foch
  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Judas wrote:
    Man, I really love that artwork.

    Yeah, young Roland looks fantastic.

    I'd do him.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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