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The [Linux] Thread - Turn your three yard elf into a powerhouse!

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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    templewulf wrote: »
    I've finally borrowed, inherited and purchased enough extra parts to slap together a Linux LAMP stack after some spectacular hardware failures.

    Unfortunately, it's been so long since I've done Linux-anything, that I'm a bit behind the times. I'm a big fan of Vista/7's start text field, but I can't find anything quite the same in Ubuntu. Deskbar seems to be it, but it won't pick up partial program names.

    For instance, I just installed synergy, and it won't pull up synergyc when I type in syn. Any ideas for better workflow?
    Try Gnome-Do. It's worked pretty well for me so far.

    iTunesIsEvil on
  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    KDE 4's start menu and krunner (the alt+F2 run dialog) works great if you're using KDE.

    Barrakketh on
    Rollers are red, chargers are blue....omae wa mou shindeiru
  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    templewulf wrote: »
    I've finally borrowed, inherited and purchased enough extra parts to slap together a Linux LAMP stack after some spectacular hardware failures.

    Unfortunately, it's been so long since I've done Linux-anything, that I'm a bit behind the times. I'm a big fan of Vista/7's start text field, but I can't find anything quite the same in Ubuntu. Deskbar seems to be it, but it won't pick up partial program names.

    For instance, I just installed synergy, and it won't pull up synergyc when I type in syn. Any ideas for better workflow?
    Try Gnome-Do. It's worked pretty well for me so far.

    Gnome-Do is cool and pretty. The KDE standard equivalent is also pretty neat.

    If you wanna go light, I'm using dmenu right now and love the hell out of it.

    Visti on
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Barrakketh wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    I posted over on teh Arch forums: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93293

    My CPU idles at 30%, and I can't figure out why. If anyone has any ideas, let me know. Rather confusing...
    Did you try watching it with atop?

    top and htop. Just installed atop, doesn't show anything different, really. You'll note I included a top output in my post over there:
    CPU Stats
    
    mpstat: ======================
    Linux 2.6.33-ice (icarus)     03/16/2010     _x86_64_    (2 CPU)
    
    08:13:32 PM  CPU    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft  %steal  %guest   %idle
    08:13:32 PM  all   14.63    0.00    8.48    4.96    0.04    0.05    0.00    0.00   71.84
    08:13:32 PM    0   15.16    0.00    8.34    6.78    0.03    0.04    0.00    0.00   69.66
    08:13:32 PM    1   14.11    0.00    8.62    3.16    0.04    0.07    0.00    0.00   74.00
    
    iostat: ======================
    Linux 2.6.33-ice (icarus)     03/16/2010     _x86_64_    (2 CPU)
    
    avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
              14.63    0.00    8.57    4.96    0.00   71.84
    
    Device:            tps   Blk_read/s   Blk_wrtn/s   Blk_read   Blk_wrtn
    sda              16.40       827.03        47.74     169714       9797
    
    ==============================
    
    ps top ten: ==================
    %CPU   PID USER     COMMAND
     3.1  2161 houn     conky
     2.5  2125 root     /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp -dpi 96
     0.4  2543 houn     urxvt
     0.3  4364 houn     urxvt
     0.2     1 root     init [3]  
     0.2  1537 hal      /usr/sbin/hald
     0.1  2162 houn     sh /home/houn/.xinitrc
     0.1  1216 root     [kondemand/1]
     0.1  1215 root     [kondemand/0]
    ==============================
    
    top -cbn1: ===================
    top - 20:13:33 up 3 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.02
    Tasks: 105 total,   1 running, 104 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
    Cpu(s): 14.7%us,  8.5%sy,  0.0%ni, 71.8%id,  4.9%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.1%si,  0.0%st
    Mem:   2048100k total,   213388k used,  1834712k free,    18300k buffers
    Swap:  3903784k total,        0k used,  3903784k free,    85368k cached
    
      PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                
     2161 houn      20   0 68652 3488 2592 S    4  0.2   0:04.10 conky                  
     9022 houn      20   0 10680 1060  784 R    2  0.1   0:00.01 top -cbn1              
        1 root      20   0  3824  640  540 S    0  0.0   0:00.44 init [3]               
        2 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kthreadd]             
        3 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.01 [migration/0]          
        4 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ksoftirqd/0]          
        5 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [watchdog/0]           
        6 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.01 [migration/1]          
        7 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ksoftirqd/1]          
        8 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [watchdog/1]           
        9 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.02 [events/0]             
       10 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [events/1]             
       11 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [cpuset]               
       12 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [khelper]              
       13 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [netns]                
       14 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [async/mgr]            
       15 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [pm]                   
       16 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [sync_supers]          
       17 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [bdi-default]          
       18 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kblockd/0]            
       19 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kblockd/1]            
       20 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kacpid]               
       21 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kacpi_notify]         
       22 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kacpi_hotplug]        
       23 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.13 [kseriod]              
       26 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [khungtaskd]           
       27 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kswapd0]              
       28 root      25   5     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ksmd]                 
       29 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [aio/0]                
       30 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [aio/1]                
       31 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [crypto/0]             
       32 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [crypto/1]             
      122 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [i915]                 
      728 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ata/0]                
      729 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ata/1]                
      730 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ata_aux]              
      731 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [scsi_eh_0]            
      732 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [scsi_eh_1]            
      733 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [scsi_eh_2]            
      734 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [scsi_eh_3]            
      770 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.04 [jbd2/sda3-8]          
      771 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
      772 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
      805 root      16  -4  6488 1068  412 S    0  0.1   0:00.12 /sbin/udevd --daemon   
      913 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ksuspend_usbd]        
      914 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [khubd]                
      987 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [kpsmoused]            
     1197 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [cfg80211]             
     1215 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.23 [kondemand/0]          
     1216 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.21 [kondemand/1]          
     1224 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [usbhid_resumer]       
     1227 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [led_workqueue]        
     1251 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [hd-audio0]            
     1291 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.09 [phy0]                 
     1367 root      18  -2  6476 1088  436 S    0  0.1   0:00.04 /sbin/udevd --daemon   
     1374 root      18  -2  6484 1084  432 S    0  0.1   0:00.03 /sbin/udevd --daemon   
     1378 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.01 [flush-8:0]            
     1387 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
     1388 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
     1389 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [jbd2/sda4-8]          
     1390 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
     1391 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 [ext4-dio-unwrit]      
     1510 root      20   0 25656  636  296 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 supervising syslog-ng  
     1511 root      20   0 28020 2072 1444 S    0  0.1   0:00.08 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng    
     1525 dbus      20   0 12652  932  688 S    0  0.0   0:00.03 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --
     1534 root      20   0  3816  592  476 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/acpid        
     1537 hal       20   0 28052 5144 4040 S    0  0.3   0:00.46 /usr/sbin/hald         
     1538 root      20   0 19924 1280 1048 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 hald-runner            
     1566 root      20   0 22044 1260 1068 S    0  0.1   0:00.02 hald-addon-input: Liste
     1568 root      20   0 22036 1212 1036 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon
     1569 root      20   0 22036 1216 1036 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon
     1576 root      20   0 22036 1188 1020 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon
     1582 root      20   0 22052 1208 1028 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon
     1583 hal       20   0 19632 1108  944 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 hald-addon-acpi: listen
     1952 root      20   0 28052 1156  684 S    0  0.1   0:00.02 wpa_supplicant -B -P /v
     1955 root      20   0  3808  468  376 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/wpa_actiond -
     1972 root      20   0  5916  632  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/crond -S -l i
     2034 root      20   0 47624 1096  576 S    0  0.1   0:00.00 /usr/bin/rpcbind       
     2039 root      20   0 13888  464  300 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/famd -T 0 -c 
     2050 bitlbee   20   0 25180  880  508 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/bitlbee -F   
     2054 root      20   0 43452 1252  972 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 /bin/login --          
     2055 root      20   0  3820  612  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 t
     2056 root      20   0  3820  608  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 t
     2057 root      20   0  3820  612  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 t
     2058 root      20   0  3820  608  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 t
     2059 root      20   0  3820  608  520 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /sbin/agetty -8 38400 t
     2072 houn      20   0 15532 2256 1552 S    0  0.1   0:00.06 -bash                  
     2093 root      20   0  8132  372  228 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 dhcpcd -qL -t 30 wlan0 
     2107 houn      20   0 13164 1664 1248 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
     2124 houn      20   0 15452  928  752 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 xinit /home/houn/.xinit
     2125 root      19  -1 96996  11m 4244 S    0  0.6   0:03.48 /usr/bin/X -nolisten tc
     2129 houn      20   0 13164 1600 1204 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 sh /home/houn/.xinitrc 
     2136 houn      20   0 31280 2436  904 S    0  0.1   0:00.07 xbindkeys              
     2142 houn      20   0 19724  728  464 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 dbus-launch --autolaunc
     2143 houn      20   0 12652  984  800 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --
     2160 houn      20   0 21760 1052  848 S    0  0.1   0:00.06 syndaemon -i 2         
     2162 houn      20   0 13164  832  424 S    0  0.0   0:00.25 sh /home/houn/.xinitrc 
     2164 houn      20   0 27756 1556 1228 S    0  0.1   0:00.06 dwm                    
     2543 houn      20   0 66680 8884 4800 S    0  0.4   0:00.55 urxvt                  
     2585 houn      20   0 15532 2156 1488 S    0  0.1   0:00.03 bash                   
     4364 houn      20   0 66528 8824 4796 S    0  0.4   0:00.34 urxvt                  
     4384 houn      20   0 15524 2148 1488 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 bash                   
     4908 houn      20   0  8084  928  772 S    0  0.0   0:00.01 less pre_x.txt         
     9004 houn      20   0  5548  568  484 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 sleep 1s               
     9013 houn      20   0 13168 1596 1196 S    0  0.1   0:00.01 sh scripts/sysstats.sh 
    
    ==============================
    

    Houn on
  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    How were you using atop? Did you try setting a longer interval (and let it run there), and sort all processes (not just active ones) by CPU used?

    I did think of one thing...do you have powertop installed? Your CPU could be scaling down its clock speed and the idle CPU usage is inflated because of that. powertop would keep track of what processes are effectively consuming the most power and also display your current CPU frequency.

    Barrakketh on
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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hrm. That's a thought.

    Powertop:
    PowerTOP version 1.11      (C) 2007 Intel Corporation
    
    Cn                Avg residency       P-states (frequencies)
    C0 (cpu running)        (35.7%)         1.67 Ghz    36.5%
    polling           0.9ms ( 0.0%)         1333 Mhz     1.1%
    C1 mwait          0.0ms ( 0.0%)         1000 Mhz    62.4%
    C2 mwait          0.1ms ( 0.3%)
    C4 mwait          1.5ms (64.0%)       
    
    Wakeups-from-idle per second : 450.4    interval: 10.0s
    Power usage (ACPI estimate): 7.8W (5.5 hours)
    
    Top causes for wakeups:
      64.0% (459.9)     <kernel core> : hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_timer) 
      17.7% (127.4)           firefox : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       4.6% ( 33.1)       <interrupt> : extra timer interrupt 
       3.3% ( 23.8)       <interrupt> : ath9k 
       3.1% ( 22.4)      <kernel IPI> : Rescheduling interrupts 
       1.4% ( 10.0)             conky : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       1.4% ( 10.0)         xbindkeys : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       1.4% ( 10.0)     <kernel core> : ath_ani_calibrate (ath_ani_calibrate) 
       1.0% (  7.2)     <kernel core> : hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer)
       0.7% (  5.0)         syndaemon : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.6% (  4.3)              phy0 : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.2% (  1.3)             irssi : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.1% (  1.0)     <kernel core> : __enqueue_rt_entity (sched_rt_period_timer)
       0.1% (  1.0)                 X : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.1% (  1.0)             sleep : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.2)      <kernel IPI> : TLB shootdowns
       0.0% (  0.2)          events/1 : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.0% (  0.2)              init : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)          gconfd-2 : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : neigh_timer_handler (neigh_timer_handler)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : add_timer (sta_info_cleanup)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : inet_twdr_hangman (inet_twdr_hangman)
       0.0% (  0.1)           rpcbind : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)             irssi : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.0% (  0.1)             urxvt : sys_epoll_wait (process_timeout)
    

    Houn on
  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    <--Linux n00b.

    I'm using SSH and VNC for remote access to my home ubuntu box. It can be pretty damn slow. Any faster ways to do remote access?

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    ssh is slow? Or VNC is slow? Largely, it's going to depend on your network connection, but I've never had a slow ssh experience, even on tiny pipes.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Every once in a while ssh will crawl, but mostly it's VNC that lags

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Could be the video card.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hmm, cutting the colors on the VNC viewer sped things up. Makes since.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    Hrm. That's a thought.

    Powertop:
    PowerTOP version 1.11      (C) 2007 Intel Corporation
    
    Cn                Avg residency       P-states (frequencies)
    C0 (cpu running)        (35.7%)         1.67 Ghz    36.5%
    polling           0.9ms ( 0.0%)         1333 Mhz     1.1%
    C1 mwait          0.0ms ( 0.0%)         1000 Mhz    62.4%
    C2 mwait          0.1ms ( 0.3%)
    C4 mwait          1.5ms (64.0%)       
    
    Wakeups-from-idle per second : 450.4    interval: 10.0s
    Power usage (ACPI estimate): 7.8W (5.5 hours)
    
    Top causes for wakeups:
      64.0% (459.9)     <kernel core> : hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_timer) 
      17.7% (127.4)           firefox : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       4.6% ( 33.1)       <interrupt> : extra timer interrupt 
       3.3% ( 23.8)       <interrupt> : ath9k 
       3.1% ( 22.4)      <kernel IPI> : Rescheduling interrupts 
       1.4% ( 10.0)             conky : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       1.4% ( 10.0)         xbindkeys : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup) 
       1.4% ( 10.0)     <kernel core> : ath_ani_calibrate (ath_ani_calibrate) 
       1.0% (  7.2)     <kernel core> : hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer)
       0.7% (  5.0)         syndaemon : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.6% (  4.3)              phy0 : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.2% (  1.3)             irssi : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.1% (  1.0)     <kernel core> : __enqueue_rt_entity (sched_rt_period_timer)
       0.1% (  1.0)                 X : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.1% (  1.0)             sleep : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.2)      <kernel IPI> : TLB shootdowns
       0.0% (  0.2)          events/1 : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.0% (  0.2)              init : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)          gconfd-2 : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : neigh_timer_handler (neigh_timer_handler)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : add_timer (sta_info_cleanup)
       0.0% (  0.1)     <kernel core> : inet_twdr_hangman (inet_twdr_hangman)
       0.0% (  0.1)           rpcbind : hrtimer_start_range_ns (hrtimer_wakeup)
       0.0% (  0.1)             irssi : queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)
       0.0% (  0.1)             urxvt : sys_epoll_wait (process_timeout)
    

    Next time you have access to a power outlet try to change the cpufreq governor to 'performance' and see if top's CPU usage looks normal. IIRC it should just be:
    cpufreq-set -r -g performance
    

    If you want to see the current governor first (it should go back to normal after a reboot) use cpufreq-info.
    Hmm, cutting the colors on the VNC viewer sped things up. Makes since.

    Try looking into FreeNX or the proprietary server. It's considerably faster than VNC or X forwarding, even on really slow connections.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    No dice. It's running at 1.67GHz now, but the usage stats are unaffected.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Visti wrote: »
    templewulf wrote: »
    I've finally borrowed, inherited and purchased enough extra parts to slap together a Linux LAMP stack after some spectacular hardware failures.

    Unfortunately, it's been so long since I've done Linux-anything, that I'm a bit behind the times. I'm a big fan of Vista/7's start text field, but I can't find anything quite the same in Ubuntu. Deskbar seems to be it, but it won't pick up partial program names.

    For instance, I just installed synergy, and it won't pull up synergyc when I type in syn. Any ideas for better workflow?
    Try Gnome-Do. It's worked pretty well for me so far.

    Gnome-Do is cool and pretty. The KDE standard equivalent is also pretty neat.

    If you wanna go light, I'm using dmenu right now and love the hell out of it.
    I'm about to head home, and I just noticed this. I'll try it as soon as I get back. Thanks, guys!

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    My friend just gave me an ubuntu install disk and I wanted to play around with it. I don't really have a spare computer right now nor do I want to make it the main OS on either of my main computers right now. What I do have is a 1Tb harddrive running Win7 right now. Is it possible to make a new partition and then have ubuntu install there and have a dual boot set up? Any steps necessary to do that?

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    My friend just gave me an ubuntu install disk and I wanted to play around with it. I don't really have a spare computer right now nor do I want to make it the main OS on either of my main computers right now. What I do have is a 1Tb harddrive running Win7 right now. Is it possible to make a new partition and then have ubuntu install there and have a dual boot set up? Any steps necessary to do that?

    When I wanted to mess around with ubuntu I went with Wubi. Not sure it's the preferred method, but it was what I did.

    Still need to get around to removing that from the boot menu

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I've been using screen for years and I just discovered how awesome screen inside screen is.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    That's Madness, Zeeny! MADNESS!!!

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    What would you use that for and how the hell would you keep track of what was where?

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  • donkyhotaydonkyhotay Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    When I wanted to mess around with ubuntu I went with Wubi. Not sure it's the preferred method, but it was what I did.


    Preferred method is more opinion then anything else. Wubi is fine for just trying it out without going through the hassle/risk of a true dual boot, if thats what you're wanting to do then thats the best choice for you. Be aware that if windows goes down it'll (usually) take wubi installed ubuntu with it as well. If you like ubuntu and plan on keeping it then I would recommend uninstalling from wubi and doing a true dual-boot. With multiple partitions you are less likely to lose ubuntu if your windows goes down.

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Visti wrote: »
    What would you use that for and how the hell would you keep track of what was where?

    Hardcopy lines @ the bottom and naming your screens and it's like a window manager with shortcuts only.
    It's useful if you have to ssh in several machines or different accounts in a single machine and you want to split the tasks.
    I'm using it as 1x3x2 set up, 1 terminal holding 3 local screens each having 2 remote screens. It allows me to have only one bloody terminal window open! I have no idea why I never even bothered to tried setting it up before.

    Edit: Screencap: http://bayimg.com/AALGpAaCf

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  • ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    I've tried RecordMyDesktop, and it was fairly decent

    Using the CLI, recordmydesktop actually worked like a dream. Thanks!
    Visti wrote: »
    Man, robotics sound so cool. I just wouldn't know where to start. I guess something like the Arduino board?

    Arduino works. Phidgets work really well. It depends on how much of the process you want to be involved in. If you want to focus on the algorithms and stuff, you could get away running all of it in a simulator like stage.

    If you want to build your own gadgets, but you don't want to fab your own boards. Take a look at Arduino or Phidgets. The Phidgets SBC runs embedded linux and has an ethernet port, an ssh server, and the full gcc stack :)

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Oh my god.


    Phidgets look awesome.. I might buy an SBC. I wouldn't know what to do with it, but.. you know.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    CPU Usage issue SOLVED. Conky was pulling about 10 updates a second (as a default setting? Really?). I set it down to an update_interval 1, and cpu usage dropped to 2% immediately. Battery life estimates now roll around 8h. Hawt.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So, I like gnome Do better than Deskbar, but it still can't find synergyc when typing in partial names. Clearly synergy is installed on my machine, because I can launch it from the terminal. Is there something I'm missing in getting it to pop up for Do?

    Also, in trying to run synergy, I've found that my PCs can't find each other using their names. When I try to ping one from the other, it hops all the way out to my DNS servers, but the IP addresses return directly from my router. Do I need to enable something to get my router to resolve their names?

    Edit:
    Router is WRT54G, with Static DNS 1-3 filled out.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    What kind of names? Hostnames, or Netbios? Netbios usually requires Samba running I believe. where as Hostnames require DNS lookup.

    Try dropping your boxes name/ip combo into /etc/hosts

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    What kind of names? Hostnames, or Netbios? Netbios usually requires Samba running I believe. where as Hostnames require DNS lookup.
    Sorry, hostnames.
    Try dropping your boxes name/ip combo into /etc/hosts
    *Facepalm* Can you tell how long it's been since my Linux admin classes?

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Too long, I'd guess. ;-)

    I just made a custom SLiM theme that matches the rest of my system. Hawt. I'll try to get a screengrab if I can.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hey, I finished my theme, AND set up a slim theme!
    Slim:
    netbook_slim-thumb.png

    Clean:
    netbook_clean3-thumb.png

    Terms:
    netbook_terms3-thumb.png

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    What kind of names? Hostnames, or Netbios? Netbios usually requires Samba running I believe. where as Hostnames require DNS lookup.

    Try dropping your boxes name/ip combo into /etc/hosts

    This is a little difficult to manage though, as you'll have to do it on each machine. For a number of machines this becomes problematic. I am of the opinion that the highest number host file editting is worth it is one, but I am a little.... odd.

    There are a number of lightweight and easy to set up DNS servers for pretty much any linux distro. Even bind is pretty straight forward, this gives you a single point of hostname updating too.

    It's not even that difficult to set up a dynamic bind9/dhcp combination if you can do that which will be even less work to maintain. This is what real men do. Move ip assignment/hostname resolution off the router, the router is not your friend in this.

    My there area bunch of other DNS options which are way more user friendly.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    Hey, I finished my theme, AND set up a slim theme!
    Slim:
    netbook_slim-thumb.png

    Clean:
    netbook_clean3-thumb.png

    Terms:
    netbook_terms3-thumb.png

    that looks really awesome. I want to do this. Unfortunately, it will take away my last link with windows, then how would I use the accursed iTunes?

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Houn wrote: »
    Hey, I finished my theme, AND set up a slim theme!
    Slim:
    netbook_slim-thumb.png

    Clean:
    netbook_clean3-thumb.png

    Terms:
    netbook_terms3-thumb.png

    Nice! It's actually quite reminiscent of my theme on awesome, except all the colors are darker and I'm running a darker version of zenburn for the term.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    anyone play with Ubuntu 10.04 beta yet?

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  • darkphoenix22darkphoenix22 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I have made infinityOS 1.0pre2 available on Sourceforge as of this moment. This release has a variety of bug fixes and UI improvements, and heavily reflects what the final infinityOS 1.0 will be. In fact, I anticipate that the only difference between 1.0pre2 and 1.0 will be a new boot screen and proper multi-user support, both for which packages will be made available.

    Grab it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/infinity-os/ !


    With this release, I would also like to announce infinityOS' planned development model.

    Simply, I intend for infinityOS to be an operating system developed by its users, for its users. You will have a voice in every step of its development, from planning features to fixing bugs to helping solve each others problems.

    I have setup a project at Launchpad, a website that integrates bug fixing, feature planning, commiting code, and answering questions into a simple easy to use UI. All you need to do to participate in infinityOS' development is sign up for an account.

    Just go to https://launchpad.net/infinityos to get started.


    The official IDE will be MonoDevelop, an open source IDE for Windows, Linux and Mac. We will be using Gtk# and C# (chosen as this is the language my university teaches) to develop applications. These tools will also allow your apps to be used back on Windows and Mac if you wish, as the libraries are fully cross-platform.

    To get started, type in the following into the terminal:


    sudo aptitude install monodevelop


    This will install everything you will need to develop apps for infinityOS. It will also be at most a ~250 MB download.


    Good Luck!

    Sincrerely,
    Ryan Oram

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Good work, Phoenix. Looks very interesting.

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  • darkphoenix22darkphoenix22 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    There was a file transfer error when I was uploading the release overnight.

    I'm going to request that Sourceforge change back their listed filesizes to MiB, as the uploaded MB and MiB were about the same, causing me not to notice.

    I'm uploading infinityOS 1.0pre3 now (which is just 1.0pre2 renamed). It's going to take a bit to transfer though (~5 hours).

    Thanks for your support,
    Ryan

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    10.04 default theme is poop.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    joshgotro wrote: »
    10.04 default theme is poop.

    I thought it looked pretty nice.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Crap picture with purple icons? I know it's not going to grow on me. Haven't had time with it yet though.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ugh. I got the parts for my desktop, put it all together, and my 1TB raid was effed. After much ado, I managed to mount one of the two drives (raid1 mirror), rebuild the superblock, rebuild the tree, and now have half the data back, the other half in lost+found, and all of it is questionable; it's random if a given file is usable. A few years worth of photography, video, music, etc is stashed on here.

    Currently backing it all up to a 2TB external drive, then I'll start sorting through. Thinking about picking up a 3rd 1TB drive and rebuilding as a Raid5 for the parity, but man, this is a headache.

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