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By Dominion we mean the expansion, not the latex and whips. [EVE Online Recruitment]

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I may join a bit earlier, I'll try and come on tonight if possible and give it a try. I remember something about starting races or something. Does any of that matter, or is it just flavor?

    Dissociater on
  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The important thing that Merch and goonfleet in general counts on is that newbies are just as useful as old players. A day one newbie in one of the ships we give out for free can ruin the day of someone who's been playing for years. So you do gain more skills by playing longer, but you never hit a point where you're invincible to new players.

    Yeah, that's the main thing that hooked me on EvE, it's more about tactics, teamwork, aggression and ruthlessness. You get the core combat skills up and a decent fit on a ship, join a gang with good leadership and bloodthirsty gangmates and you can really unleash some destruction. There are so many players who are terrified of being fired on, that I swear to god they freeze like rabbits in a spotlight once the Phased Plasma starts to fly. So delicious.

    God I want to resub sometimes, but I just can't justify the time these days.

    Drake on
  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I may join a bit earlier, I'll try and come on tonight if possible and give it a try. I remember something about starting races or something. Does any of that matter, or is it just flavor?

    It used to matter a fair amount, now it's mostly flavor, though it does still affect a handful of starting skills, mainly in the form of racial frigate/weapon type.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Every few months I come back to one of these threads and it gives me the urge.

    So tempted to go check if my terrible laptop will even run this properly, but I have no idea what sort of time I can put into it and I hate starting MMOs and then totally forgetting to play them while I'm paying subscription fees.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Every few months I come back to one of these threads and it gives me the urge.

    So tempted to go check if my terrible laptop will even run this properly, but I have no idea what sort of time I can put into it and I hate starting MMOs and then totally forgetting to play them while I'm paying subscription fees.

    I'm the same way, which is why I'm only tentatively trying the demo. But I have to admit, it's a lot of fun so far.

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  • AnommeAnomme Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Thats one of the good things about eve, if you are still paying, in a way you are still playing as your training and improvement go on. its nice to come back from a holiday and find that youve only got a day or so left on your training thats taken you 50 days to train :) It also alows there to be infinate game options, which is a nice change from WoW when you've got loads of lvl 80s and one of each class and race etc. theres nothing left for you in the game.

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  • ElChazElChaz Registered User new member
    edited November 2009
    One of the things that I always loved about EvE were the epic story's that come out of it, even lowly frigate battles and skirmishes in low-sec always somehow sound epic and interesting. I finally caved and subscribed after trying a steam trial and I am loving it so far. Even simply traveling around in lowsec is nerve wracking let alone trying to mine a belt on your own. Tempted to try and hook up with you Deepcrow guys to experience a bit more the game has to offer as the newbie Caldari corp is a bit boring, but they have given me some good advice on how to start up and skill plans and whatnot.

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  • AnommeAnomme Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    lol yeah, that's the great part of eve, everyone is new to some aspect of the game and so anyone in any aspect can have fun at the beginning (except for perhaps scanning which I can't get the hang of) look at the frigates for example, a few days training and you can be a pretty effective tackler.

    Anomme on
  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Anomme wrote: »
    lol yeah, that's the great part of eve, everyone is new to some aspect of the game and so anyone in any aspect can have fun at the beginning (except for perhaps scanning which I can't get the hang of) look at the frigates for example, a few days training and you can be a pretty effective tackler.

    Oooh. Scanning. I used to spend hours in my Cheetah, gazing into the scanner. Once you get good at using that thing, it's like being psychic.

    You want to be able to consistently achieve surprise? Get good with the scanner.

    The reverse is true as well. Never be surprised again.

    It's pretty easy to use once you get in enough practice. Good scanning coupled with the proper level of paranoia means always knowing what's going on in your volume of space.

    Drake on
  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah, about that... I've got the skills, but have never had the opportunity to practice. Are there any good guides or tutorials on scanning? Especially that suggest ways to practice in safe space?

    I am talking about resources for those of us without access to the GoonFleet wiki. :P

    gilrain on
  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miOnzIgrcuo

    Just google youtube for shit you're interested in, tons of videos. =)

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  • KorebanKoreban Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I've updated the OP for the new expansion. We've added a new mentor program for the influx of newbees that we'll be getting, so if you guys have been holding out on trying this, or found the game frustratingly difficult to understand the first time, now's the best time to check it out.

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  • TurnerTurner Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    All of you who have the slightest interest in internet spaceships, horrible gimmicks, lots of swearing, and listening to fat neckbeards yelling on Teamspeak, should really get a trial and apply for Merchi. The release of Dominion is set to be a landmark in the history of Eve, with a complete overhaul of the Sov system. Seriously. These next couple of months when all hell breaks loose and we have huge fights (imagine flying in a fleet of 250 ships, with several other similarly sized fleets both cooperating with you and trying to kill you), are set to be fucking awesome. PvP in eve is the biggest adrenaline rush I have ever experienced, in any game. Nothing compares to it. The best part? You don't need to be some old-school player with lots of skillpoints to be useful. Brand new newbies form an essential part of our fleets, meaning you can take part right off the bat.

    For those of you who are not PvP inclined, the release of Dominion also promises vast Industry related opportunities. With war comes profiteering, and there is no time like the present to make billions of isk selling ships to PvPers and capitalizing on our situation in-game.

    No matter your preference, Dominion is going to be huge, and it would be an awesome time to get involved with Merchi.

    Best of all? With the recently revival of the mentorship program, you will have the opportunity to interact closely with members of Merchi who are familiar with the game. As such, you will always have a helping hand when you "wtf" and need help figuring something out. Having someone there to help you makes the game that much easier, especially when our mentors include such notables as the following:

    - Deadly Sherpa (I don't have any quips about this guy, he is the head of the mentor program)
    - Mentakona (the man, the myth, the legend)
    - Equin (don't let this guy be your mentor, you can't understand him on TS over all the dick sucking he is doing)
    - Mister Turner (Me! Definitely the most attractive of the mentors, with a silky smooth voice guaranteed to make you wet yourself)

    Now hurry up, sign up for a trial. Apply to Merchi, and get ready to shoot some scrubs (or rocks, if that is your kinda thing). We will be there for you to help show you why this game is awesome, and to help out with all those cute newbie questions you are bound to have.

    Turner on
  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Sweet, thanks Imperfect!

    gilrain on
  • Mostly HarmlessMostly Harmless Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    There's no better time to get into this. I've been in MRCHI a month now, and essentially been fed free Rifters to throw at bombs and our enemies during the TPAR invasion - and that was merely the foreplay for Dominion.

    It's deeply satisfying to wreck someone's day by turning their battleship into a sitting duck with a frigate costing less than their ammo.

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  • BaudinBaudin Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Once the new expansion hits you will also be able to apply to either corporation from anywhere in space, in case this hasn't been said already.

    Also here is my contribution to the thread, this is from quite some time ago. I believe we were still in E-Pr0s at the time and we were busy fighting a hostile alliance invading our space.

    My job at the time was as a scout, moving around cloaked and making sure our fleet commander knew about where our enemies were in the system, what POS* they had left, and their fleet composition**. Anyway I found a large number of enemy ships in a certain POS that had absolutely no one in it, reported back to our FC, and got a password*** to try. It worked. These are some screenshots I got of a group of 20 something goons warping into the POS in capsules and leaving with enemy ships, many of them battleships and some of them worth over 120 million isk. All because we had knowledge of our enemies and their assets.
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    *POS: Giant structures in space that allow players to be completely safe and has a huge amount of hit points, but you cannot attack from inside, and the structure itself is killable... its complicated, like so much in EVE.
    **Fleet Composition: Since each ship type does a radically different job it is crucial that commanders know what an enemy can field against you, especially if are out numbered.
    ***POS Password: Without a proper password you can't warp into a POS that your alliance does not own.

    A full list of the ships we stole:
    Abaddon
    Anathema
    Apocalypse x 2
    Arazu
    Armageddon x 4
    Basilisk
    Bestower
    Broadsword
    Buzzard
    Cheetah
    Claw x 3
    Condor x2
    Crow x 2
    Cynabal
    Damnation
    Drake x2
    Hyperion
    Iskur
    Ishtar
    Iteron Mark III
    Maelstrom
    Mammothx2
    Manticore x 3
    Megathron
    Onerios
    Rapier
    Raptor
    Raven x 7
    Rook
    Scimitar
    Scorpion x 4
    Tempest x 4
    Typhoon
    Vigil
    Vulture

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  • PagoonPagoon Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    To all you bitter vets out there, this is the best time to comeback. We'll be fighting tooth and nail to keep what we've earned (taken).

    Pagoon on
  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I've been having a great time since I've joined. And will be playing again tonight.

    Yesterday was interesting. I got podded for the first time in the Delve (d'oh) but I'm back on my feet. So far, I've just been mining around C3N, waiting until I can find someone to salvage with.

    My first pvp experience went something like this. I made a jump into a new system, and there was all sorts of weird electrical stuff going on. I tried to warp and it said I was in a warp disruption field and needed to go 20km away to leave it. So I start moving and these two things target me. And I exploded.

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  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yep, you jumped into a bubble camp. Woo.

    In other news, as soon as they fix this t2 ship component nonsense I should have my ship bidness back open. Plus T2 large guns just in time for dominion, woo.

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  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    So i just resubbed and am going through the new tutorial with my three year old character as i've forgotten everything =0 only, the new tutorial doesn't seem to work very well for old characters "we've just given you this item, you need to train this skill to use it here's a book for that skill (hull upgrades in this case) train that skill and equip the item, only hull upgrades requires mechanic, which i don't have D:

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    So i just resubbed and am going through the new tutorial with my three year old character as i've forgotten everything =0 only, the new tutorial doesn't seem to work very well for old characters "we've just given you this item, you need to train this skill to use it here's a book for that skill (hull upgrades in this case) train that skill and equip the item, only hull upgrades requires mechanic, which i don't have D:

    It was like that for me too, on a new character. I got a couple of skill books I couldn't use.

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  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah, I joined MerchI a while ago and got my ass to Delve, and I've had some luck ratting so far, but I haven't had enough free time to join a real fleet op, and I'm feeling a little het up about that. Hopefully my life will settle down soon and I'll be able to go shoot some mans.

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  • ElChazElChaz Registered User new member
    edited November 2009
    Well, I moved all my junk out to the Deepcrows station last night, flew through about 3 gate camps and numerous skirmishes with diffrent factions milita in the 23 or so jumps it took me to get there. was a long trip, not to mention the fact that my mining barge capacator runs out every time i try and jump further than 30AU. Theres nothing more nerve wracking than pulling up to a gate with no cap power left, only to see three battleships and a bunch of frigates swing around to look at you menacingly. Also started my training on the Tier 2 learning skills, when they are done its time for the fun combat skills and a bigger ship!

    ElChaz on
    "Motivation alone is not enough. If you have an idiot and you motivate him, now you have a motivated idiot." -Jim Rohn
  • GothicLargoGothicLargo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    ElChaz wrote: »
    One of the things that I always loved about EvE were the epic story's that come out of it, even lowly frigate battles and skirmishes in low-sec always somehow sound epic and interesting. I finally caved and subscribed after trying a steam trial and I am loving it so far. Even simply traveling around in lowsec is nerve wracking let alone trying to mine a belt on your own. Tempted to try and hook up with you Deepcrow guys to experience a bit more the game has to offer as the newbie Caldari corp is a bit boring, but they have given me some good advice on how to start up and skill plans and whatnot.
    ElChaz wrote: »
    Well, I moved all my junk out to the Deepcrows station last night, flew through about 3 gate camps and numerous skirmishes with diffrent factions milita in the 23 or so jumps it took me to get there. was a long trip, not to mention the fact that my mining barge capacator runs out every time i try and jump further than 30AU. Theres nothing more nerve wracking than pulling up to a gate with no cap power left, only to see three battleships and a bunch of frigates swing around to look at you menacingly. Also started my training on the Tier 2 learning skills, when they are done its time for the fun combat skills and a bigger ship!

    Your two posts (and the content within them) lead me to believe you are not only a spy, but not a very good one.

    Deepcrows is basically dead (deader then Orion after TT trashed IAC), and it was never a recruitment avenue for MerchI. I flew out to Zimse once to consider joining them. Set them to blue. I started getting worried I was wasting my time when I got to Ghesis without seeing any of them. Was pretty certain I was wasting my time when I got to Munory. Was totally unsurprised when I got to Zimse and found it deader then Britney's microphone.

    Munory would be a great location if it weren't for that 35% refine rate. GAH! WHY MUST THEY ALWAYS TWIST THE KNIFE?!

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  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Alrighty, finally decided to join in on this, sounds like it could be fun.

    A lot of the posts in this thread make the game seem intimidating as fuck, but I assume the tutorial + Merchi helping out alleviates this a bit?

    I'd appreciate a 21 day trial if anyone wouldn't mind, if not, I'll just go for the 14-day one.

    Biosys on
  • bigbadbobbigbadbob Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I am thinking of picking this again, haven't played for a long while. When starting out I assume you want to get your learning skills up first, right? Should I focus on learning and intelligence first to help speed up the training?

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  • GothicLargoGothicLargo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Biosys wrote: »
    A lot of the posts in this thread make the game seem intimidating as fuck, but I assume the tutorial + Merchi helping out alleviates this a bit?
    The new tutorial agents are great. They give you skill books. If you do all three tutorial agent chains completely, you can train up high enough to inject all the skills they give you, sell everything they've given you, buy and inject all the other ship-enhancing skills you can get, and fly out to 0.0 space with a disposable ship, a wad of cash, and enough skills to keep you training for several months as a starting tackler before you need to make a book run. Just remember to never buy a ship you can't afford to insure, never fly anything you haven't insured, and keep your clone up to date.
    bigbadbob wrote: »
    I am thinking of picking this again, haven't played for a long while. When starting out I assume you want to get your learning skills up first, right? Should I focus on learning and intelligence first to help speed up the training?

    Training the learning skills up early is generally recommended but to what level and when is open for debate. In any long skill train you should always consult evemon to tell you whether you should train another learning skill first, because evemon will calculate the amount of time spent training the learning skill vs the amount of time training without the learning skill, and pick the best course of action.

    Training up to a T2 fitted battleship with a starting character for example would have enough skills to take you a year to train or more, at which point resetting your attribute points becomes yet another option, and again, evemon can tell you what the best spec would be for your training plan (attributes can only be changed annually once you burn out your freebies, so it's not a course of action taken lightly).

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  • ImperfectImperfect Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I set my stats to int/memory and burned through learning. All bases/advanced to 4 (except cha), and learning to 4. Then I reset my stats according to the big Amarra BC/BS plan I put together.

    If you're in it for the long haul, this will save you a lot of time, especially if you can get your learning skills done while you have 2x learning speed.

    Imperfect on
  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    ElChaz wrote: »
    One of the things that I always loved about EvE were the epic story's that come out of it, even lowly frigate battles and skirmishes in low-sec always somehow sound epic and interesting. I finally caved and subscribed after trying a steam trial and I am loving it so far. Even simply traveling around in lowsec is nerve wracking let alone trying to mine a belt on your own. Tempted to try and hook up with you Deepcrow guys to experience a bit more the game has to offer as the newbie Caldari corp is a bit boring, but they have given me some good advice on how to start up and skill plans and whatnot.
    ElChaz wrote: »
    Well, I moved all my junk out to the Deepcrows station last night, flew through about 3 gate camps and numerous skirmishes with diffrent factions milita in the 23 or so jumps it took me to get there. was a long trip, not to mention the fact that my mining barge capacator runs out every time i try and jump further than 30AU. Theres nothing more nerve wracking than pulling up to a gate with no cap power left, only to see three battleships and a bunch of frigates swing around to look at you menacingly. Also started my training on the Tier 2 learning skills, when they are done its time for the fun combat skills and a bigger ship!

    Your two posts (and the content within them) lead me to believe you are not only a spy, but not a very good one.

    Deepcrows is basically dead (deader then Orion after TT trashed IAC), and it was never a recruitment avenue for MerchI. I flew out to Zimse once to consider joining them. Set them to blue. I started getting worried I was wasting my time when I got to Ghesis without seeing any of them. Was pretty certain I was wasting my time when I got to Munory. Was totally unsurprised when I got to Zimse and found it deader then Britney's microphone.

    Munory would be a great location if it weren't for that 35% refine rate. GAH! WHY MUST THEY ALWAYS TWIST THE KNIFE?!

    Surely not the guy with the day and a half old account!

    Also, you've quoted every post he's ever made!

    Wow, I've been in Eve for only a few days and I'm already paranoid as fuck.

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  • ElChazElChaz Registered User new member
    edited November 2009
    ElChaz wrote: »
    One of the things that I always loved about EvE were the epic story's that come out of it, even lowly frigate battles and skirmishes in low-sec always somehow sound epic and interesting. I finally caved and subscribed after trying a steam trial and I am loving it so far. Even simply traveling around in lowsec is nerve wracking let alone trying to mine a belt on your own. Tempted to try and hook up with you Deepcrow guys to experience a bit more the game has to offer as the newbie Caldari corp is a bit boring, but they have given me some good advice on how to start up and skill plans and whatnot.
    ElChaz wrote: »
    Well, I moved all my junk out to the Deepcrows station last night, flew through about 3 gate camps and numerous skirmishes with diffrent factions milita in the 23 or so jumps it took me to get there. was a long trip, not to mention the fact that my mining barge capacator runs out every time i try and jump further than 30AU. Theres nothing more nerve wracking than pulling up to a gate with no cap power left, only to see three battleships and a bunch of frigates swing around to look at you menacingly. Also started my training on the Tier 2 learning skills, when they are done its time for the fun combat skills and a bigger ship!

    Your two posts (and the content within them) lead me to believe you are not only a spy, but not a very good one.

    Deepcrows is basically dead (deader then Orion after TT trashed IAC), and it was never a recruitment avenue for MerchI. I flew out to Zimse once to consider joining them. Set them to blue. I started getting worried I was wasting my time when I got to Ghesis without seeing any of them. Was pretty certain I was wasting my time when I got to Munory. Was totally unsurprised when I got to Zimse and found it deader then Britney's microphone.

    Munory would be a great location if it weren't for that 35% refine rate. GAH! WHY MUST THEY ALWAYS TWIST THE KNIFE?!


    Eh, fair enough to believe im a spy, couldnt care less about that. A shame Deepcrows is dead, sounded like what I wanted but if thats the case then not to worry. looke like another long run up to the Sisters of EvE mission hub for me then.

    and Dissociater, paranoia is a good thing in EvE, keeps you alive!

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  • GothicLargoGothicLargo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    ElChaz wrote: »
    Eh, fair enough to believe im a spy, couldnt care less about that. A shame Deepcrows is dead, sounded like what I wanted but if thats the case then not to worry. looke like another long run up to the Sisters of EvE mission hub for me then.

    and Dissociater, paranoia is a good thing in EvE, keeps you alive!

    There's a bunch of decent player corps down around the southwest corner of Tash-Murkon near the CVA halo system in Kari.

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  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Cheers to Taliosfalcon for the trial invite, time to download this and give it a spin before sleep.

    EDIT: Actually, I take that back, this is one big download.

    Biosys on
  • Darkchampion3dDarkchampion3d Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Imperfect wrote: »
    I set my stats to int/memory and burned through learning. All bases/advanced to 4 (except cha), and learning to 4. Then I reset my stats according to the big Amarra BC/BS plan I put together.

    If you're in it for the long haul, this will save you a lot of time, especially if you can get your learning skills done while you have 2x learning speed.

    I got up to tacklemaller/salvaging before doing this. Nice to be able to do something besides die for the swarm sometimes or at least dying slightly slower than a rifter allows.

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  • Mostly HarmlessMostly Harmless Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Imperfect wrote: »
    I set my stats to int/memory and burned through learning. All bases/advanced to 4 (except cha), and learning to 4. Then I reset my stats according to the big Amarra BC/BS plan I put together.

    If you're in it for the long haul, this will save you a lot of time, especially if you can get your learning skills done while you have 2x learning speed.

    I got up to tacklemaller/salvaging before doing this. Nice to be able to do something besides die for the swarm sometimes or at least dying slightly slower than a rifter allows.

    I settled with core to 4, adv learning to 3. In two weeks time I'll have battlecruiser and I'll do a bit more work on the learning side. Very happy with this approach - means I can do things rather than just watch the skills tick away.

    Depends on your boredom threshold really ... worst come to worst, pause and change your mind.

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  • NoCatsNoCats Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I just sent an app for Merchi. Obviously i'm not expecting to be accepted any time soon, what with the fuck off huge patch tomorrow.

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  • Dr.ObliviousDr.Oblivious Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Couple days after Dominion hits, I'm coming back after my six month leave of absence...Delve was nice while we had it.

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  • SimpsonsParadoxSimpsonsParadox Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm nabbing the demo off of steam right now, and I have a question.

    Leadership looks like the buffing/repair/awesome tree I want to play as, but I've heard rumors that it's not quite all that. Is it worth it to invest in Leadership, or should I wait that out?

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm nabbing the demo off of steam right now, and I have a question.

    Leadership looks like the buffing/repair/awesome tree I want to play as, but I've heard rumors that it's not quite all that. Is it worth it to invest in Leadership, or should I wait that out?

    It's not worth training unless you plan on leading ops, if you want to repair and help your teammates out get remote armor repair and whatever the name for shield repair is.

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  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Darmak wrote: »
    I'm nabbing the demo off of steam right now, and I have a question.

    Leadership looks like the buffing/repair/awesome tree I want to play as, but I've heard rumors that it's not quite all that. Is it worth it to invest in Leadership, or should I wait that out?

    It's not worth training unless you plan on leading ops, if you want to repair and help your teammates out get remote armor repair and whatever the name for shield repair is.

    You could get it, then fly with ganglinks in a BC and afk in a pos... but.. yea.

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  • GothicLargoGothicLargo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm nabbing the demo off of steam right now, and I have a question.

    Leadership looks like the buffing/repair/awesome tree I want to play as, but I've heard rumors that it's not quite all that. Is it worth it to invest in Leadership, or should I wait that out?

    Well, I'm training leadership at the moment... It's a path of pain and no glory, I'll tell you that much.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc

    There is an element of truth* in this film wrapped around a whole lot of fiction. Command ships do not appear in fleet combat. They will be off hidden within a pos shield where they can safely boost the fleet without being destroyed. They don't appear because they will be instantly primaried because they're likely boosting the fleet, but mostly because they're expensive (as everyone knows, the more expensive it is, the more fun it is to watch it burn). If you want to mimic the experience of flying a command ship in battle, fly a Blackbird. You'll be smeared just about as quickly and you won't be out as much money.

    Nodes in the command tree will typically be ships that are less likely to be called primary, or more often, coverts/stealths/force recons. Once a link in the chain of command is killed and removed from the field bonuses from the booster no longer transmit down the chain of command to the squad members, and since you need people to focus on coordinating the battle anyway, you might as well have the command elements be cloaked and thus removed from immediate danger. Plus side is that you also thus have a bunch of cloaked ships at hand with bombs or cyanos.

    On the flip side, any fuck up is automatically your fault even if it wasn't. You also won't get many killmails sitting being invisible.

    *Take down their command ship first.

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