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Cooking Advice - RE: Sirloin Steak

The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Let's say someone bought me some obscenely expensive steaks as a gift and I was planning on cooking a super awesome dinner for my apartment tomorrow night. Let's also say I have no idea how to do steak properly other than 'fry it and eat it'. This shit is gonna be boss, so does anyone know some simple yet delicious steak recipes.

I have access to:

A charcoal barbecue on the balcony that is covered.
A grill and an oven.
A gas barbecue that is outside on the roof, so may or may not be available depending on the weather.

Also, lets say that any and all ingredients/special preparation tools can be acquired quite easily from the city tomorrow on my lunch break.


Obviously I'm looking for something more than 'cook the steak, cut the steak and eat the steak'. I'm thinking special marinades, sauces or side dishes, all that jazz. Something... fancy. Normally I'd go google it but these forums have refined taste, and the charcuturie thread is not really the right idea on this.

Oh, and it can't take more than, say, three hours to do because - you know - I have a job.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Honestly, if it's good meat doing anything other than maybe a little kosher salt and cracked pepper is going to detract from the steak, not add to it. IMO marinades and sauces are to cover inferior cuts.

    Go for a good side dish, I'm a fan of Crash Hot Potatos.

    Not really fancy, but I'm a big proponent of good meat and letting it stand on it's own.

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  • FuzzywhaleFuzzywhale Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    This is my favorite way to have a steak:

    1. Pound the steaks flat and cover them generously in salt and pepper.
    2. Get a frying pan and melt a glob of butter over medium heat, and then cook your steak 4 minutes a side. That should do medium rare.
    3. Add a 1/3 cup of brandy and light the thing on fire!
    4. Let the flames go out, then add in a splash of double cream. Put in some more salt and pepper and let that cook on low for maybe 6 minutes.

    I find that goes quite nice with some sauteed asparagus, and it puts on a good show.

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  • AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sirloin steaks aren't amazing steaks. They're good, and out of my usual price range, but there are better cuts.

    Which doesn't mean you can't make them delicious. Treating them like a New York Strip or something similar will end in tragedy. The marbling usually isn't good enough for the meat to be both tender and flavorful on its own. You've gotta prep it.

    As usual, Good Eats has a good rundown (sirloin is featured in part 2). I've used both his marinade and his cooking method on the much-tougher london broil, and it's fantastic.

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sirloin steak is fancy, all by itself. That's why it costs so much. Eat it rare.

    I'd use the charcoal grill, heap it until it's on 11, spread the coals then hold your steak over it and let it get a good glance at the fire, flip it over for another glance, throw some garlic butter on top and put it on a bed of asparagus and potatoes: et voilà.

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  • KidDynamiteKidDynamite Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Agreed on the KISS crowd.

    All I do anymore is Salt & Pepper (I use a little garlic salt, cause I like Garlic) and then melt some butter, and brush it over the steaks. If they are thicker steaks, let them come closer to room temp before you cook them like maybe half an hour take them out of the fridge.

    Grill them about 6 minutes a side (for a 1 1/2 inch steak it should be med. rare) and then throw a pat of butter on the top when you plate them up.

    Let them sit for a couple of minutes before you tear into them, it is supposed to let the juices flow back to the center.

    Then eat that ish.

    For sides, I like asparagus in the oven, (salt, pepper and butter and bake for like 10 min at 350 ish) and some potatoes of your choice.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yeah, simplicity is probably where you want to go here. I don't even like steak unless it's at least medium well, and I can tell you that the sauces and things are usually for lower grade meat. If you're feeling particularly snazzy, you might consider sprinkling a bit of bleu cheese or something on top (just a bit, it's strong stuff) but I wouldn't do anything more.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The only trick I use for steaks that seems to be uncommon is to make sure you let the steaks get to room temp prior to putting them on the grill. Stick 'em in the microwave so they're not just on the counter if you have cats or dogs or something (plus you don't have to worry about accidentally turning the microwave on w/o taking them out first).

    Letting them get to room temp means that if you cook them medium or medium rare, the inside isn't a cold gooey mass (which most people don't like).

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  • GrennGrenn Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Here's how I cook steaks, very very simply:
    • Smother steaks in good Olive Oil and season with salt, pepper and choice of herbs (rosemary, thyme, oregano...).
    • Add steak to a hot frying pan which does not contain oil -- the oil on the steak will be enough to cook.
    • Cook each side for only 1-2 minutes -- just enough to seal the outside of the meat.
    • Turn off the hob and transfer the steaks to a pre-heated oven at 200c.
    • Cook them in the oven for as long as it takes to achieve desired leveled of rarity.

    Personally, I usually put them in the oven for about 6-8 minutes for medium-rare - but I do buy pretty thick steaks, so you need to take the thickness of meat into account. Check on how they are cooking frequently if unsure!

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Take out steaks and let them reach room temp.

    Bring charcoal grill to 500 F.

    rub olive oil on steaks.

    Put a pepper and salt rub on steaks.

    Put steaks on grill.

    Leave steaks on grill for 5 minutes on each side, if you want a well done steak. If you want less then well done then just cook for less time.

    take steaks off grill and let them sit for 5 minutes.

    Eat with hands.

    (cooking time is dependent on thickness of cut)

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The best steaks are rare. Just a little cooked on the outside, and a red, juicy, delicious center.

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Man, all this "nothing but salt and pepper" talk... Herbs, spices & seasonings are your friend, stop fearing them! I usually use Montreal steak spice from Schwartz's as a dry rub, but you can roll your own Montreal steak spice pretty easily. It's got the salt and pepper covered, but also includes garlic and/or coriander and/or dill and/or other stuff besides. In no way do these spices detract from the flavour of the meat (quite the opposite, actually). Other than my preference for more than just salt 'n pepper, my cooking method is pretty much the same as ethug's.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    They're your friend because you're too poor to buy a good cut of meat that doesn't need to done up with herbs and shit.

    It's like taking a perfectly naturally beautiful woman and having maxim do her up into something that she isn't. The woman is already beautiful, you dont need the extra twenty layers of makeup with another 50 layers of photoshop filters. You're turning something beautiful into another bland boring overly done model.

    Same thing with steaks. If you have a damn good steak, then it doesn't need to be overly done with herbs and shit.

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    They're your friend because you're too poor to buy a good cut of meat that doesn't need to done up with herbs and shit.

    It's like taking a perfectly naturally beautiful woman and having maxim do her up into something that she isn't. The woman is already beautiful, you dont need the extra twenty layers of makeup with another 50 layers of photoshop filters. You're turning something beautiful into another bland boring overly done model.

    Same thing with steaks. If you have a damn good steak, then it doesn't need to be overly done with herbs and shit.


    Your puritan approach to meat, while noble, is not always the best approach.
    I love a good steak, and trust me, with my dad being a gourmet chef my entire life, I've seen the spectrum.

    and while I'm with you in saying that "marinading for days and blah blah this teriyaki sauce that a.1 steak sauce over here" is going to essentially ruin any good piece of meat, a few complementary herbs or spices, or as is my eternal preference a reduced onion / red wine sauce, can really improve things.

    A good steak always speaks for itself, but with the right flavors, you can make it sing.

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    They're your friend because you're too poor to buy a good cut of meat that doesn't need to done up with herbs and shit.

    It's like taking a perfectly naturally beautiful woman and having maxim do her up into something that she isn't. The woman is already beautiful, you dont need the extra twenty layers of makeup with another 50 layers of photoshop filters. You're turning something beautiful into another bland boring overly done model.

    Same thing with steaks. If you have a damn good steak, then it doesn't need to be overly done with herbs and shit.


    Your puritan approach to meat, while noble, is not always the best approach.
    I love a good steak, and trust me, with my dad being a gourmet chef my entire life, I've seen the spectrum.

    and while I'm with you in saying that "marinading for days and blah blah this teriyaki sauce that a.1 steak sauce over here" is going to essentially ruin any good piece of meat, a few complementary herbs or spices, or as is my eternal preference a reduced onion / red wine sauce, can really improve things.

    A good steak always speaks for itself, but with the right flavors, you can make it sing.

    While I frequently fall into the "kosher salt and cracked black pepper over extremely high heat for about three minutes per side" crowd when it comes to a good cut of beef, I have to acknowledge that Vash has a fair point here; it's not as though we're purists when it comes to any other protein or other dishes -- when people come here asking for recipes for vegetables, the cullinary dabblers among us never say "just steam a head of broccoli and serve it with a very little bit of unsalted butter; anything more than that and you're just adultering the natural goodness of the vegetable and making it so it doesn't taste the way God intended."

    When I marinate beef, I do it in a subtle red wine (merlot/cabernet blend) with some rosemary, onion garlic, salt and pepper. I will sometimes also let it sit in wheat beer for a day with salt, pepper, lemon zest and garlic. My uncle's recipe involves honey, ginger and (I'm pretty sure) sake. I also will sometimes pan sear it and tent the beef under aluminum foil before sauteing diced onion and mushrooms in the beef juices with some butter and serve those vegetables over the beef. I do tend to do this when I find a really tough cut of beef on sale for a really low price.

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