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Suggest to me a SUV/Truck to buy

precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I currently drive a 04 Cavalier. While it is a great commuter car, I am looking for something a little more fun to drive. I am also looking for a vehicle with good storage room and enough power to tow say a fishing boat. So I guess I am in the market for a used SUV or a Truck. I haven't owned a SUV since my first car way back when I was 16.

After internet browsing it for quite some time, I am absolutely lost at what to look for. Gas mileage isn't really a concern as I know I couldn't do better then the Cavalier.

So here is my current checklist and would appreciate any input on what to look at for a vehicle:

-Cargo room, enough to say fit a sofa/treadmill in with no problem
-4WD of course
-At least a 6 cy, if not 8
-Be able to tow a fishing boat in the future
-MP3 Aux port (I really, REALLY hate mp3 fm transmitters)
-Prefer something newer, unless vehicle is unique for its year

Price range - No more then say 15k

Right now what I have been looking at is the Dodge Nitro, but I am unsure just yet.

Any suggestions?

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You are looking for a Toyota 4Runner or a Tacoma with a shell on it. Unless your fishing boat is really big? The 3.4L V-6 is a very capable motor and still gets pretty decent gas mileage.

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    You are looking for a Toyota 4Runner or a Tacoma with a shell on it. Unless your fishing boat is really big? The 3.4L V-6 is a very capable motor and still gets pretty decent gas mileage.

    thread done.

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  • precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    You are looking for a Toyota 4Runner or a Tacoma with a shell on it. Unless your fishing boat is really big? The 3.4L V-6 is a very capable motor and still gets pretty decent gas mileage.

    What is the size of the 4Runner compared with the Rav4?

    Was looking at the 4Runner and it looked a tad small.


    Edit: also looks to be well over 15k for a used without 100k miles on it.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    163 inches
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    176 inches
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    Size-wise a 4runner or Tacoma is like a narrow, short-bed F150/Bronco. Handles way better. I went ahead and peeked at the Minneapolis/St Paul Craigslist listings for 4runners and found these, they all look pretty good to me and in your price range: (I don't know where Rapetown is so I guessed :P)

    4runners are heavier and thus get a bit worse gas mileage than a Tacoma. The Tacoma has a pickup bed so is much more usable for hauling things, but as far as trailering they are virtually identical. The powertrain is the same. (And super durable, there is a reason people pick these for offroading)

    Unless you are looking to beat the shit out of a new 'used' truck by hauling a boat around with it? Can't say I recommend that but if that's what you want to do you're looking at something like an F150 or Silverado/Suburban. Downside is it's likely to cost a lot more money and it will definitely be less fun to drive. For this I'd say an F150 with a 4.6L V-8 would work for what you want, or for an SUV a Suburban or Yukon with a 5.3L V-8.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I've become a fan of the Jeep SUV's. I picked up a Wrangler (not for you, no real "cargo" space) but a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee might be up your alley.

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  • underdonkunderdonk __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    You cannot go wrong with a used 4Runner. These things are bulletproof.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    precisionk wrote: »
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    You are looking for a Toyota 4Runner or a Tacoma with a shell on it. Unless your fishing boat is really big? The 3.4L V-6 is a very capable motor and still gets pretty decent gas mileage.

    What is the size of the 4Runner compared with the Rav4?

    Was looking at the 4Runner and it looked a tad small.


    Edit: also looks to be well over 15k for a used without 100k miles on it.

    Although technically you could, if you're regularly towing a boat you should not be doing it with a Rav4. The Rav4 and the Honda CR-V are both essentially AWD station wagons with high ground clearance.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    You are looking for a Toyota 4Runner or a Tacoma with a shell on it. Unless your fishing boat is really big? The 3.4L V-6 is a very capable motor and still gets pretty decent gas mileage.

    What is the size of the 4Runner compared with the Rav4?

    Was looking at the 4Runner and it looked a tad small.


    Edit: also looks to be well over 15k for a used without 100k miles on it.

    Although technically you could, if you're regularly towing a boat you should not be doing it with a Rav4. The Rav4 and the Honda CR-V are both essentially AWD station wagons with high ground clearance.

    We're looking at a RAV4 if/when we ever spawn. Perfect (and even a little big) for 95% of any moving tasks, but yeah, I wouldn't haul a boat with it.

    Keep in mind, if you get a bigger truck or SUV, you'll become the "guy with the big truck" as in, "Oh, I just bought a 2 ton entertainment center, let's call our friend with the big truck."

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  • precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    163 inches
    Toyota_RAV4_EV.jpg

    vs

    176 inches
    toyota4runner2000.jpg

    Size-wise a 4runner or Tacoma is like a narrow, short-bed F150/Bronco. Handles way better. I went ahead and peeked at the Minneapolis/St Paul Craigslist listings for 4runners and found these, they all look pretty good to me and in your price range: (I don't know where Rapetown is so I guessed :P)

    4runners are heavier and thus get a bit worse gas mileage than a Tacoma. The Tacoma has a pickup bed so is much more usable for hauling things, but as far as trailering they are virtually identical. The powertrain is the same. (And super durable, there is a reason people pick these for offroading)

    Unless you are looking to beat the shit out of a new 'used' truck by hauling a boat around with it? Can't say I recommend that but if that's what you want to do you're looking at something like an F150 or Silverado/Suburban. Downside is it's likely to cost a lot more money and it will definitely be less fun to drive. For this I'd say an F150 with a 4.6L V-8 would work for what you want, or for an SUV a Suburban or Yukon with a 5.3L V-8.

    Good call, I will look into craigslist. My original looking was into used at dealerships for the sake of having that warranty. Didn't look into used as I thought perhaps warranty wouldn't transfer and or be tougher to get a loan.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited August 2009
    Jeeps are great!

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I've become a fan of the Jeep SUV's. I picked up a Wrangler (not for you, no real "cargo" space) but a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee might be up your alley.
    Wranglers and other 'classic' jeeps are different than the unibody XJs. Cherokee's are small, the wheelbase is only 101 inches, so not that great for cargo. I love mine to death and it is very reliable (160k miles and counting), but they're just not as reliable as a toyota or as easy to make off-road worthy. Plus with toyota you don't have to worry about parts like you do with Chrysler going out of business or whatever.

    that said, for less than taxes on a new car you can have a Cherokee that's very off-road capable and will meet most of your requirements. Just look for I6 engine in later one that's a 97 or newer model. Structurally the 4 doors are sturdier than the 2 doors.

    Don't get the grand cherokee unless you need to be punished for war crimes or something.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Jeeps are awesome as well. Cherokees especially are great fun to drive around, however their towing capacity isn't as good or as easily upgradeable as a Toyota. What kind of fishing boat do you have?

    As for upgrading them for going off-roading I'd say it's six of one half a dozen of the other. There are tons of resources available for both platforms, enough to do almost anything you could want.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The Mitsubishi Raider was basically a re badged Dodge Dakota, which is a perfectly competent small truck (not the most "wow" out there interior-wise, but does the job fine). It was recently discontinued. You could get it for a very good price if you find one at your local Mitsubishi dealer looking to get rid of it.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    My family has been happy with their Nissans for years. I have an Xterra and my dad has a Titan.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    well if you want to be able to haul a couch or a treadmill aroun dyou will need a pickup.

    used tacomas are hard to come across but that or a nissan frontier are good mid-size bets

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  • precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    Jeeps are awesome as well. Cherokees especially are great fun to drive around, however their towing capacity isn't as good or as easily upgradeable as a Toyota. What kind of fishing boat do you have?

    As for upgrading them for going off-roading I'd say it's six of one half a dozen of the other. There are tons of resources available for both platforms, enough to do almost anything you could want.

    No boat yet, but hope to once I have a SUV to pull it. ;-)


    Possible to get a 4runner or something for 15k that has under 100k? Not sure how long those can go? Never owned a foreign car.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I have an '05 Rav 4 that would be perfect if it had a sunroof, but I'll live. I got it with 45k miles for $16k in really good condition and I got it in the Boston area where shit's expensive. I get about 22 mpg on it and I've used it for moving and driving on small city streets. When I get a new car it'll probably be a new Rav 4, unless I go all nutty and spend way more on a Subaru Forrester because they're hot.

    Toyotas last a long time, which is great, but it also means that for what you want (like the MP3 thing which is really only in newer cars) you're not going to find one without and ungodly amount of miles under $15k because you can charge more (especially for the bigger ones). Especially since you want to haul really large items that will only fit in a big pickup. You get what you pay for.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    precisionk wrote: »
    Not sure how long those can go? Never owned a foreign car.

    For goddamn ever. I do emissions testing in California and I regularly pass them at 300k+ miles.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    precisionk wrote: »
    Not sure how long those can go? Never owned a foreign car.

    For goddamn ever. I do emissions testing in California and I regularly pass them at 300k+ miles.

    Nissan and Toyota, you're usually look at a minimum lifespan of 300,000 miles, with most making past the half million point with proper service. 4WD SUVs and Trucks add a little bit of cost onto the regular maintenance, so be aware of that. Transmission and drivetrain repairs on a foreign SUV are a fuckton higher than your Cavalier, but luckily tend to not happen nearly as often (just replaced the original right forward CV joint in my Pathfinder, 200,000km).

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  • John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Toyota. I think I'm right in saying that most of the parts/construction are made/done right here in the US, unlike some of the crap Ford/Chevy put out via Mexico.

    In case you were waivering on the purchase, here's a little reminder about how tough these things are :mrgreen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    underdonk wrote: »
    You cannot go wrong with a used 4Runner. These things are bulletproof.

    This. I bought a 2006 about a month ago. Get's nearly 24mpg highway (which is all I do for the most part). I went with the V6 and it has plenty of power, plenty of room (I just bought a new kitchen table at Ikea and everything fit just fine), smooth ride, nice features. I'm very happy with it.

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