Well, they're basically the same character, but yeah, I meant Green Arrow.
Yeah the ultimate liberal who became the world's greatest archer while trying to survive on a desert island and the definition of a conservative who is a fucking space cop they sure are the same character
Well, I didn't say they were EXACTLY the same, just basically.
They aren't even close on any level other than "green"
At all
PS Don't read Final Crisis if you've been out of comics for a while, it makes no sense and the end of RIP can easily be taken as the cause of the continuity shift
I'd find it entertaining if Gotham wasn't anywhere near as bad as its made out to be, and that a lot of the police corruption and stuff like that was part of batman's sociopathic illusions.
definitely wouldn't work in continuity for obvious reasons but would be a fun branch to explore.
Reminds me of "What Ever Happened to the Caped Crusader?"
The Alfred/Joker story where Bruce goes out to fight crime but it isn't working the way he thought it would and he starts getting depressed, so Alfred gets his former acting buddies to come to Gotham and become supervillains for Batman to fight.
Well, they're basically the same character, but yeah, I meant Green Arrow.
Yeah the ultimate liberal who became the world's greatest archer while trying to survive on a desert island and the definition of a conservative who is a fucking space cop they sure are the same character
Well, I didn't say they were EXACTLY the same, just basically.
They aren't even close on any level other than "green"
At all
PS Don't read Final Crisis if you've been out of comics for a while, it makes no sense and the end of RIP can easily be taken as the cause of the continuity shift
Except it can't, because the Final Crisis Tie-In issues of batman are also in the RIP hardcover!
I'm not really super into comic books, but I saw Green Arrow use a punching glove arrow once and wrote him off as the lamest character ever since.
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
I'm not really super into comic books, but I saw Green Arrow use a punching glove arrow once and wrote him off as the lamest character ever since.
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
Despite this, hes not wrong in thinking Green Arrow is the lamest hero ever. Even lamer than Aquaman.
I'm not really super into comic books, but I saw Green Arrow use a punching glove arrow once and wrote him off as the lamest character ever since.
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
If I remember correctly, he actually used a boxing glove arrow in his first appearance on the JLU series.
The handcuff arrow is the most ridiculous. I can barely swallow a bola arrow to tie up a fleeing villain but an arrow that transforms into handcuffs in mid-flight? Boo.
I'm not really super into comic books, but I saw Green Arrow use a punching glove arrow once and wrote him off as the lamest character ever since.
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
If I remember correctly, he actually used a boxing glove arrow in his first appearance on the JLU series.
Yes I loved JLU. It's basically my only direct involvement with comics. I watched all the JL/JLU episodes. My brother was in the room when he used the punching glove arrow and saw it, the horror!
P.S. JL/JLU DCU stuff was awesome, hope they make some more eventually.
“There will be a Terry McGinnis mini-series early next year. We’ve heard the fans, we’ve heard everyone’s interest. And right now we’re planning to put out a Batman Beyond mini-series in 2010.”
I'm not really super into comic books, but I saw Green Arrow use a punching glove arrow once and wrote him off as the lamest character ever since.
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
Despite this, hes not wrong in thinking Green Arrow is the lamest hero ever. Even lamer than Aquaman.
Well Im basing my opinions off the JLU version. Who wears a little cap and uses sissy trick arrows. Yeah, yeah its all inspiring and shit when he stands up to Hulk-General or whatever that was but hes still a lame-ass character.
Green Arrow was one of my absolute favorites in JLU. And this is coming from someone who'd never read a Green Arrow comic before. He's one of the funnier characters with the most personality. I'd kill for a Green Arrow/Question cartoon.
I even love the trick arrows. Like the buzzsaw arrow that he uses to cut himself out of a block of ice. Now that's dedication to your theme.
Green Arrow was one of my absolute favorites in JLU. And this is coming from someone who'd never read a Green Arrow comic before. He's one of the funnier characters with the most personality. I'd kill for a Green Arrow/Question cartoon.
I even love the trick arrows. Like the buzzsaw arrow that he uses to cut himself out of a block of ice. Now that's dedication to your theme.
I fully agree with this post.
I knew nothing about Green Arrow before JLU. I just knew he existed, and assumed he was lame because he was just some guy with a bow. I always thought Hawkeye was kind of lame as a kid, too; but he hung out with the avengers, so that gave him some cred.
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The only time I liked Green Arrow was the Winnick/McDaniel OYL stuff.
What really annoys me is that for the most part everyone sits there and lets Green Arrow lecture them on whatever twig gets stuck up Ollie's ass, and never really tell him to suck it unless it was GL pointing out Speedy was a drug addict. Maybe that's why I liked Hawkman going "No, fuck you and your bitching." punch punch Brad Meltzer it was always about politics.
I tried reading some of the O'Neil/Adams GL/GA, and man is it hard to get through these days. Like delicious Nutella the commentary was laid on so thick and it was always "Don't you see how wrong you are, white space cop?!"
Connor Hawke is awesome though. JLA #9 with him taking on Key is one of my favorite issues ever.
This is why I'm fine with Bruce just being this billionaire philanthropist who doesn't really get political (except when they make him endorse the democrat candidate but only as Bruce Wayne so you don't really know if it's an act or if he means it man that's a long run on)
I didn't realize that people still thought good characters were the ones with the most badass violent super awesome powers. I thought people grew out of that some time in the 6th grade.
Connor Hawke is awesome though. JLA #9 with him taking on Key is one of my favorite issues ever.
Man, what happened to this kid lately? I loved it when he stepped up as Green Arrow on Morrison's Justice League run, but I have no idea where he is today.
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He was destroyed by Winnick in the Green Arrow/Black Canary series.
from wiki-wiki-pedia, yo:
However, after Oliver and Dinah return home from getting married (the first marriage being void, with an imposter posing as Ollie), the nurses tending to Connor are found dead, with Connor himself missing. Oliver begins a quest to find his missing son. This quest leads him to Dr. Sivana, who has utilised a neural patch to turn Connor into a mindless drone. Connor is rescued by Oliver and returned to his hospital bed, where he finally awakens from his comatose state.
After his coma, however, Connor starts exhibiting several unusual traits. Physically healthy, he's now amnesiac and oblivious to everything happened to him before waking up (even his life as a superhero), he feels no pain at all and exhibits a strong healing factor, forcing Dinah to ask for outside help.
A brief examination of his physical make-up, made by Batman and Doctor Mid-Nite, reveals how his DNA is now spliced with Plastic Man's, along with several other alterations fully accounting for his new healing factor and his currently very high pain thresold. His memories however come back only in a fragmentary, confused way, with none of the emotional attachments previously experienced, and his archery prowess is fully gone. To make up for his inability to use ranged weaponry Connor retains his mastery of the martial arts, enhanced by his advanced healing factor, able to close up bullet wounds in mere seconds.
The sad thing about it is that Kelley Puckett co-created Connor Hawke, and was also the same person who helped co-create Batgirl Cassandra Cain. That's two good new characters in the DC stable that have been punched in the proverbial groin.
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Connor Hawke is awesome though. JLA #9 with him taking on Key is one of my favorite issues ever.
Man, what happened to this kid lately? I loved it when he stepped up as Green Arrow on Morrison's Justice League run, but I have no idea where he is today.
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They aren't even close on any level other than "green"
At all
PS Don't read Final Crisis if you've been out of comics for a while, it makes no sense and the end of RIP can easily be taken as the cause of the continuity shift
Reminds me of "What Ever Happened to the Caped Crusader?"
Except it can't, because the Final Crisis Tie-In issues of batman are also in the RIP hardcover!
Final
Crisis
The end of RIP with
Does the same thing as Final Crisis 6 without being fucking confusing
Best Batman game ever? Probably.
Best superhero game? Surely.
Though the final boss is a little weak.
This doesn't make sense
Batman Game = Superhero Game
Superhero Game =/= Batman Game
If this is the best Superhero Game, it HAS to be the best Batman Game.
YOU HAVE COME UNDONE, SIR.
Pull this thread as he walks away
I am doing this slow slow chuckle
Hate to see you lyin' there in your Batman skivvies.
Nope never
(No really I didn't)
Judging characters by things they did in the Silver Age is rarely wise when talking about modern day comics. The two most recent appearances of the boxing glove arrow had Oliver Queen, the original Green Arrow, pull it from his quiver as a last resort and murmuring, "My God. We meet again," as well as Connor Hawke, the second Green Arrow, and son of the original, using it to knock out a villain after exclaiming something like, "Smoke bomb arrows, flash arrows, boxing glove arrows! How about just one! pointed! arrow, Dad!?"
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Despite this, hes not wrong in thinking Green Arrow is the lamest hero ever. Even lamer than Aquaman.
If I remember correctly, he actually used a boxing glove arrow in his first appearance on the JLU series.
Ollie is not the worst hero
at least he helped the black man
Green Arrow said some strange things when Black Lightning was invited to join the JLA back in 1977.
Hooray!
Bwaaahhhhhh?
Yes I loved JLU. It's basically my only direct involvement with comics. I watched all the JL/JLU episodes. My brother was in the room when he used the punching glove arrow and saw it, the horror!
P.S. JL/JLU DCU stuff was awesome, hope they make some more eventually.
http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/08/24/batman-beyond-returns/
Aquaman and Green Arrow are both awesome!
Do you ever say anything not wrong?
For shame people.
Now, Green Arrow's comic currently kind of blows, but the character himself is rock solid.
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Well, I know everyone I worked with based their opinions of Green Arrow off of the Smallville character. That could explain a lot.
I even love the trick arrows. Like the buzzsaw arrow that he uses to cut himself out of a block of ice. Now that's dedication to your theme.
I fully agree with this post.
I knew nothing about Green Arrow before JLU. I just knew he existed, and assumed he was lame because he was just some guy with a bow. I always thought Hawkeye was kind of lame as a kid, too; but he hung out with the avengers, so that gave him some cred.
What really annoys me is that for the most part everyone sits there and lets Green Arrow lecture them on whatever twig gets stuck up Ollie's ass, and never really tell him to suck it unless it was GL pointing out Speedy was a drug addict. Maybe that's why I liked Hawkman going "No, fuck you and your bitching." punch punch Brad Meltzer it was always about politics.
I tried reading some of the O'Neil/Adams GL/GA, and man is it hard to get through these days. Like delicious Nutella the commentary was laid on so thick and it was always "Don't you see how wrong you are, white space cop?!"
Connor Hawke is awesome though. JLA #9 with him taking on Key is one of my favorite issues ever.
This is why I'm fine with Bruce just being this billionaire philanthropist who doesn't really get political (except when they make him endorse the democrat candidate but only as Bruce Wayne so you don't really know if it's an act or if he means it man that's a long run on)
Archer's Quest is the best GA story ever
Man, what happened to this kid lately? I loved it when he stepped up as Green Arrow on Morrison's Justice League run, but I have no idea where he is today.
from wiki-wiki-pedia, yo:
The sad thing about it is that Kelley Puckett co-created Connor Hawke, and was also the same person who helped co-create Batgirl Cassandra Cain. That's two good new characters in the DC stable that have been punched in the proverbial groin.
He's been mindwiped and turned into Plastic Man??
Also he can't shoot a bow and arrow anymore
Basically eff you Judd Winick.