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Figure Drawing with Cakemikz (NSFW) (Lesson 1 - Gesture)

rtsrts Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Artist's Corner
This time we will be focusing on capturing the gesture of a figure. I put together a little video lesson of sorts to help get you guys started this time. You can download that here.

What I want from you guys this time is to pick one two or three pieces of reference, and do the three different types of gestural lay-ins that I show in the video. Do the best job you can with it, and then photo or scan them. Then pick whichever you like best and take it to more of a complete finish and then photo or scan it as well...and email them all to me. Please make them 900x700 or 700x900 at 72 dpi to keep them easily formatted for me. Also format them like this CakemikzGesture1.jpg CakemikzGesture2.jpg CakemikzGesture3.jpg CakemikzFinish.jpg (except replace Cakemikz with your name). My email is rtschutter at gmail. Make the subject of the email YourName - Gesture.

Once again I am requiring you to work in traditional media.

Here are the references:

Ref1.jpg

Ref2.jpg

Ref3.jpg

Ref4.jpg

Ref5.jpg

Ref6.jpg

Ref7.jpg

Ref8.jpg

Ref9.jpg

Ref10.jpg


They are all women this week as well due to a lack of good male reference.


Your deadline for submitting your drawings will be 11:59pm PST next Friday (the 28th). I will then do my video critique by the following Friday. Please spend at least a few hours on this. It's difficult for me to justify how much time I am putting in if I don't feel like you are!

If there is someone who thinks they can convert that video to a better format that mac users can view, without losing too much quality and adding too much to the filesize then please do so.

Also I am still looking for more sources of reference, particularly good male reference. So let me know if you are aware of any.

skype: rtschutter
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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    Actually, we can't see your email.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Alright, its rtschutter at gmail.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Link the riley method! This is your official reminder.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Oh right. Here is some good information on it...more than you will ever need.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Man, just watching you draw makes me improve. That part where you use the negative space to find out the placement of the chin? I was like 'eureka!'

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    man, our stuff is going to be brought up and talked about in front of the whole class!? scary!

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Wish I could find the power cable for my scanner...

    Are we allowed to do it digital?

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Your heavy wheezing really adds a nice rhythm to the video

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Damn it, I was gonna say something and then I was like "No, I will stay on topic."

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    is it just ryan talking or is there supposed to be a visual as well

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    is it just ryan talking or is there supposed to be a visual as well

    Are you using a Mac? That's what happens if I try viewing it on a Mac. It works properly in Windows, though.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    is it just ryan talking or is there supposed to be a visual as well

    The video didn't play for me until I saved it, then it worked fine.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Also, you might have to use Windows Media Player or Media Player Classic

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    do these need to be in a traditional media as well?

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yes traditional media. And fuck you Tam.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • deadlydoritodeadlydorito __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    hey wow this is an even better idea than the original thread!!

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  • AgentflitAgentflit Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    edit: nevermind

    I'll try to convert this video for you. You're still incredible.

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    i know it isn't really the point but you sorta fudged her back/shoulder area

    good video!

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Agentflit was kind enough to re-encode the video for mac users and anyone else having trouble viewing it. You do still require VLC player however. You can find this new version in the same folder as the old one.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    well the re encode worked for me. Although Im using a PC running windows XP and not a mac. im not sure what got fucked in my codecs.. but I can watch it now.

    So no more posting the actual drawings in the thread?

    you sortve implied that when you think about the figure in 3d forms that you dont still look for those rhythms. They are still very important.
    Im sure thats not what you meant im just clarifying.


    General info:


    Opposing curves.. The apex's of two opposing curves when drawing the figure shouldnt ever really line up. Things will have more flow and rhythm when they dont and will be stagnant when they do. Generally when they do your drawing will start to look like a marshmellow creature.


    Id also like to help out anyone whos got anatomy questions as it helps me find out what areas I dont know quite as well.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I will post them as I get them.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Alright Mully and Bomb, here are your three:
    Ref5.jpg

    Ref10.jpg

    Do this for your complete one.

    Ref7.jpg

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Cakemikz does not sound like what I thought he would sound...it's better though.
    Except for the mouth breathing :P

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Everyone should do a record and post your voice thing.

    Personally every bodys voice on the forum I imagine in the voice of david attenbourough or a movie announcer until proven otherwise.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    My voice is in my comment hurhurhur.

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  • IkageIkage Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Oh man a thousand thanks for the video itself it was very informational.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Cake can I get an extention? I don't think I'm going to have enough time to get 3 done before friday. Or can I just send you two?

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm just hoping I'll have enough time to scan them. Maybe I can go to kinkos or something?

    Until then, I guess I'll just redraw and redraw them, and hopefully learn something instead of reinforcing some bad habit or another.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Turn in what you have Mustang but I might skip it in the critiques if its running long.

    DDV can you not photograph them or something?

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I would be able to photograph them, except somebody stole my phone.

    What luck, huh?

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Hey Ryan,

    Here's my stuff for this week's figure drawing thread.

    I did two finals.

    You see people? This is what I like to hear!



    Deelock's assignment:

    deelockgesture01.jpg

    deelockgesture02.jpg

    deelockgesture03.jpg

    deelockfinal01.jpg

    deelockfinal02.jpg

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    skype: rtschutter
  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Dee- You are very consistently making the heads a bit small and just overall making the widths through out the figure a little to wide.

    Also in your Cambiaso Cylinder and cube approach you completely changed the gesture of the pelvis and legs. She is much more profile in the reference and you have rotated everything more towards the viewer.

    You did the same thing with the box of the rib cage.

    Its intreresting that you did that and then in your more refined drawing you are much closer to the actual angles/gesture of the reference.
    You like your women thick eh?... I am assuming you are male..

    Ryan are you posting the video critiques here as well after you find time to do them?

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It will be one big video so I am not covering the same issues in each person's critique. I will just do sort of an overview of what everyone did.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    72 hours and 14 minutes before I get pissed at everyone for the lack of participation!

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Well I've knocked off one, even though it's crap, and am halfway through the other, which has the potential to be worse.

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  • LeggraphicsLeggraphics Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    haha I have tomorrow off so expect submission from me:D.

    Cake I think you could do with some modifications to the opacity and brush size in photoshop. You draw in photoshop much more hesitantly than you appear with the marks coming out of your graphite drawings.

    I think I much prefer your non-digital work. Also... great video tutorial. Very professional and informing

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2009
    cakemikz wrote: »
    Hey Ryan,

    Here's my stuff for this week's figure drawing thread.

    I did two finals.

    You see people? This is what I like to hear!

    So how's that full time job going?

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Thanks Ken for the critiques.

    For the Cambiaso method I used this reference:
    Ref2.jpg

    And I may have over accentuated the gesture but I did that for a reason. I was trying to get more movement in her pose.

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sonofa, I wish I saw this before now. I've had so much time the last couple days! Oh well, time to.... make time..

    Also: cake you are the man (ken too) for taking the time for this once again.

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Yay me!

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